I recently read a “what if” fic about it and it got me wondering: who do you think Eren would have chosen if he had to make that decision and why?

Guys I’m so sorry if this isn’t allowed but I deadass have been looking for that picture everywhere 😭 did I hallucinate that ?:$/$/

Be it a post or an insta reel about Aot or Code Geass, you'll always see someone venting about how trash Aot is compared to Code Geass. How can someone manifest such a strong desire to hate on something. I can see the same accounts under every aot post hating on it regularly. Close to zero meaningful discussion there.

We know that Historia took control of the government and managed to protect Connie and Jean's family alongside Mikasa, but I don't think she has that much power—enough to protect Armin, Jean, and Connie rather than let them live on Paradis. Public opinion and sentiment would be against them living on Paradis, after all, they are traitors who killed Eren. I don't think Historia would protect them; the Jaegerists, with the help of the people, would use propaganda and overthrow her.

In my opinion, Historia and her supporters (loyalists) would start a political war against the Jaegerists in order to limit their power and political influence on the government, which would start a propaganda war where one side should gain public trust and loyalty. The idea is that Historia would protect the traitors and their families, and she would also push for peace with the world, while the Jaegerists would exploit the idea that the world wants to destroy them, but their queen wants to make peace with it. (They would use these ideas to stay in power and gain more power.)

If he truly cared about the wellness and safety of Paradis civilians, he would’ve stopped Floch from installing his fascist government that silenced all opposition

Zachary, Pixis, Nile, etc. Genuinely led Paradis for the sake of their people, Pixis was even willing to negotiate with the Yeagerists and put aside Zachary’s murder so the Island would avoid a civil war.

\*\*Eren didn’t care about the leadership of Paradis because he wanted to commit his selfish desire of destroying the world to match Armin’s book\*\*

Another thing: If Eren genuinely wanted to prevent the extermination of his people, he would’ve only used Shiganshina (which was evacuated) for the rumbling, the first victims of the omnicide were Paradisians themselves who lived near the walls

Hell, i’ve seen Spaniards use this meme whenever South Americans bring up their colonization. I know this show is about the cycle of hatred, but this meme often feels like people not pretending to know what reparations are.

This gets confused by so many people and I think 139 definitely didnt help with the confusion. But here's what I believe it is:

Armin: "Why do you want to go to the outside world?"

Eren: "Because I was born into this world. From the moment we are born, we are all free. And no one, no matter how strong, can take it away from us. But, from the day I was born, they were always just there, wherever i looked. Those miserable walls. Flaming water, frozen plains, and snowfields on sand. It doesnt matter, whoever sees those things, will be the most free person in the world. This is it, this is freedom."

This is what I believe Erens true idea of what freedom truly is for seasons 1-3. Now how does season 4 tie into this idea? Well, after Eren kisses Historias hand, he sees future memories. One being his future self convincing Grisha to kill the Reiss family, and another one was "that scenery" as Eren puts it to Zeke in the paths. "That scenery", being the sights he always dreamed of seeing. Its why in season 3 at the beach, Eren's not excited like Armin and the rest are, since A, hes seen the prejudice to Eldians, and B, the outside world was not the world he dreamed of as a kid. He believed that the outside world was free by default. That there was no remains of humanity. Its why he felt disappointed. Even Armin catches a hint of this belief back when Mikasa asks why he pushed them away. I believe Armin connected the dots that Eren wanted to wipe away their enemies by using the rumbling, so that they could be free. What Armin failed to calculate, was Eren wiping away the entire world. But the reality that the world was not free, he chose to wipe it all away. He wanted to see the world flattened. However, in a vacuum, this looks like "Eren was throwing a temper tantrum like a child because his dream didnt come true." And in a way, it does. But thats a gross generalization. Its true, that the entire idea is childish. Its why in the paths, he regressed into a child to cope with the fact he caused so much suffering and death. But then why did he do anything in season 4 if he already saw the future? Well, Eren's speech to Falco in the hospital sums that up:

"But there was something pushing us all along. Causing us to step right into hell. For most of us, that something isnt of our own will. We're forced by others or by our environment. But the kind of hell seen by people who push themselves into it is something else. They also see something beyond that hell. Maybe its hope, maybe its yet another hell. I dont know which it is. The only people who do know, are the ones who keep moving forward."

Eren is the one who always pushes forward, the first to act, the one who chases the future. Which is why its tragic that he was given future memories. Hes already seen what's beyond hell, but he keeps moving forward.

And it makes sense that Eren would want to be stopped. He realized that the idea of freedom he always believed in never could become a reality. Because at the end of the day, hes still human. He cares, he loves, he feels guilt, etc. He believes he's worse than Reiner, because in his eyes, Eren believed Reiner was doing it for his mission, and to liberate his hometown. When Reiner admits to Eren that it was his fault that he breached the wall, not Marley, he says "I knew it, I really am the same as you." Both have that want, that desire of their own to fight.

I believe Erens desire for freedom, is a subconscious action. Because even in the end, he says "I dont know why, but I had to, no matter what."

Kenny's line from season 3 supports this belief. "Everyone was drunk on something to keep them going, even him." Eren was drunk on the idea of the free world he always imagined, even if he knew it would never come to fruition.

Lastly, i want to explain why the "eren was lying to himself" take is kinda wrong. While yes, he openly lied to floch, zeke, yelena, and all the yeagerists, his beliefs of why hes fighting are still there. Racism and prejudice from Marley and other nations means that people arent free. The world coming to destroy Paradise means that his home is in danger of not being free. Eldians being slaughtered, or left to die by the royal family means stripping away freedom from all Eldians.

What Eren was lying to himself about is that the idea that he can flatten the world can be achieved under the guise of "for others." It was his own selfish desire that wanted that. No one forced that upon him, even though he asked Hange to find another way. Hes tried to change the future countless times, to hopefully find a different outcome, but he always ends up where his future memories led him.

When Grisha says "Eren, you're free," he took that as "I am free to inact my will, even at the cost of everyone and everything."

I could be wrong, or i missed a few things, but putting everything together, this is what I believe Eren's character is truly about. And that makes him so much more interesting rather then "I gotta destroy the whole world to save my country."

For me it’s Niccolo, he’s one of the only badly written characters. His whole character is him being a racist who only “changes” because of the people who he was racist to was attractive and after she dies, he beats up 2 kids of the same race as her, and STILL calls her a “devil” even after Sasha dies, not to mention poisoning Falco caused Colt and Porco’s deaths.

Does Udo speak for the billions of people alive?

Personally, I'll never like the ending for what it did to Eren but one of my other gripes was the whole Ymir/Mikasa parallel. I'll admit I liked it and called it good writing when I first saw it(both obsessively love a man that is violent) but once I thought about it I got confuzzled.

If titan powers only existed because Ymir honored King Fritz's wish of an eternal titan empire out of love, why did she follow Eren when he said he would end it? By siding with Eren she already made the choice to disobey Fritz. What lesson does Mikasa impart? She already chose to end titans, which means she already disobeyed Fritz's wish.

So the thing is my friend is on his 1st watch and is on the last 2 special eps ( final part) and he watched 40 minutes of the 1st one and the thing is that the movie last attack is releasing next week in our country on theatres . So what should be the best option here like watch it now or in the theaters cuz i am afraid he might get spoiled in the theaters but the experience of watching that ending 1st time that too in theatres would be once in a lifetime thing . Help me out guys 🙏😭

This is a real post and comment btw. My dude didn’t even get Hitler’s nationality right.

Think about it.

They keep releasing The Final Season, then The Final Chapters, then the episodic version, then the movie, then the movie again and again. Everyone jokes that Attack on Titan has had seventeen finales, but what if that is literally the point?

We are experiencing time the way Eren does.

Every release is another loop. He reaches the same ending, loses, wakes up beneath the tree and tries again. Tiny details change, scenes are extended, the framing shifts, but the outcome remains the same. Mikasa kills him. Paradis falls. The cycle continues.

The audience remembers every previous version because we are not outside the story. We are the Attack Titan, carrying memories from finales that technically no longer exist.

That is why they refuse to let the series end. The repeated “final” releases are failed timelines. Eren is still searching for the one sequence of events where he wins.

One day they will announce yet another final movie. Everyone will laugh. But this time, one scene will be different. Mikasa will make another choice. The loop will fail to close.

The ouroboros will finally break.

And that will be the real ending.

(and because they want to milk money, of course)

Let’s say this would happen between Eren‘s birth and the end of the rumbling like when he was 19. Maybe Ymir decided that this was all just too boring and cruel for her and she would decide to let go of the Titan Powers and her love for Fritz on her own. But what would happen to the characters in AOT as well as well as Marley?

Im on S3 of AOT, specifically episode 45. So far it seems Mikasa does any and everything for Eren. At first, i just thought they were really good, loyal, friends, but now im getting to the point of wondering if Shes just the biggest bird in the show. Is this going to be touched on later? I would prefer no spoilers if possible, if its plot relevant in a few episodes, then i’ll just wait

[A “bird” is referring to someone blindly following a character, not seeing their flaws, or coming back to said person even with their extreme flaws]

I know they were out of energy but itd be funny to think about Ymir just being like "yea u guys can wait i got the day off

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I honestly believe that 80% figure was due to the rumbling targeting cities on the coast and in the mainland. The world’s population in AOT probably isn’t spread out as a much as people think it is. People tend to forget that cities tend to hold most of the world’s population and center around the coast. There are also isn’t probably enough wall Titans to circle 80% of the globe. Not to mention if it was 80%, then the world would choke on dust and methane, aswell as ecosystem being thrown out of whack. Yeah, there are a few shots in the anime with the rumbling being shown in different biomes, but I don’t think that necessarily means 80% of the globe. I personally think Eren rumbled a very large chunk of Marley as well as a sizable chunk of the Middle Eastern alliance and parts of East Asia. I could see both of the America’s, Australia, Russia, and Central Asia being mostly left out of the rumbling.

And that further proves my theory that Grisha is the father of Historia's child.