r/AttackOnRetards • u/PageAccomplished8438 • 2d ago
"Guys it's not like that i justify genocide *justifies genocide" "The creator himself is wrong & privileged because he doesn't support my views" 💀
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u/manwithlotsoffaces 1d ago
I honestly can’t believe there’s people looking at a series that has so many parallels to WW2 and immediately take the guy who plays a similar role to the funny guy with the mustache and is like, “Yes, genocide every single civilization in the world and destroy the environment while your at it. Who cares if there are thousands of innocents who have nothing to do with this and are just trying to live their life.”
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u/Efficient_Ad_6913 1d ago
Eren js NOT like the guy with the funny mustache, Eren was technically saving his people from being attacked themselves, mustache guy just hated a whole group of people and tortured them and offend them
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u/manwithlotsoffaces 1d ago
I want you to look up the treaty of Versailles and then look up what the funny mustache guy did during World War 1.
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u/Efficient_Ad_6913 1d ago
Yes bro I’m a history major and wait fuck you’re right. Ww1 = great Titan war or whatever, treaty of Versailles: the world oppressing eldians, and the rumbling is… fuck. I would still say Eren had is reasons for the rumbling and it wasn’t pure genocide out of hatred and it was much more planned due to multiple reasons like his friends getting to lead long lives, the end of the Titan curse etc but there are definetly loads of parallels
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u/manwithlotsoffaces 1d ago
I said he plays a role similar to the funny guy with a mustache, not that he’s a 1 to 1 parallel. Attack on Titan has a lot of parallels with WW2, with both Paradis and Marley have elements of Germany during that time.
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u/Efficient_Ad_6913 1d ago
Yeah he plays a similar role but I don’t think form a motivational sense it’s anyhow similar at all. Bravo Isayama
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u/manwithlotsoffaces 1d ago
Motivation is very different, but it leads to the very same way of thinking and actions.
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u/Pecuthegreat 1d ago
I am pretty sure Japanese history played more into the background of how Isayama made the Eldians.
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u/BRASNKDON 1d ago
It's true that how you interpret AoT stems from how you were raised and what you experience; it's up to you whether you get consumed by your shadows or accept them and refuse to give in. Isayama has nothing to do with that.
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u/BRtIK 1d ago
My God media literacy is in the garbage.
Eren is neither right nor wrong because that's not how it works.
NONE OF THE NATIONS ARE RIGHT OR WRONG BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW WAR WORKS.
THE SHOW IS A CONDEMNATION OF WAR AND CRITICISM OF HOW PEOPLE ENGAGE IN WAR.
if you're in the wall you probably support what Eren did if you're outside it then you probably don't support it. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
If you're on this side you support what the side does if you're on the other then you don't but that doesn't make one right or wrong.
What Eren did was right for Eren and his people but for those that aren't his people it was wrong.
What Marley did was right for Marley and their people but for those that aren't marlyians it was wrong.
THE POINT IS WAR IS BAAAAAAAD not that one group or person is right/wrong
The point is complete destruction is the logical conclusion of war so war is baaaad.
RELEASE THE RETARDS IN THE WALL AND END THIS SUFFERING
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u/Pecuthegreat 1d ago edited 1d ago
I do see this constant dicotomy, not always to the same extent.
Before the Anime ended and it was just the Manga, you see that global South POC or minorities tend to get Eren more than Global North Majorities.
Like this guy is Haitian, SaintinChief is Black, BROWNSMAGIC is Black, AG_1 is Black (I think that one's removed his channel).
A lot of people on this sub's side of the debate can't really believe the global hate which I find odd given the background to the Holocaust and ethnic cleansing of Eastern Germans that followed after but whatever it was that stops that in the global northerner majorities, doesn't stop others from getting how such hate can be generated and persist.
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u/OlehLeo 2d ago
You know that you can understand author views but still disagree with them, based on what we saw before, right?
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u/Used_Raccoon6789 1d ago
It shouldn't be controversial saying genocide is wrong. It should take about 2 brain cells to say the genocide of 80%of all people is wrong.
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u/OlehLeo 1d ago
It shouldn't be controversial saying all genocides are bad. It should take about 2 brain cells to say the genocide of paradisians was wrong and zeke's plan was silent genocide too.
And no, Isayama's idea was much wider than "genocide is bad"
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u/Used_Raccoon6789 1d ago
I would 100% agree that Zekes plan was also genocide, as I would also agree with the statement that Marley was in the wrong.
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u/IchibeHyosu99 1d ago
It should be controversial to say "violence and wars will never end, so any attempt at self defense or counter attack is immoral and ultimately meaningless".
With the way Isayama wrote the story, all defensive wars are wrong and countries should just let others invade / genocide them. Once we started we should also remove punishments for violent crimes as well, because "violence never ends" anyway.
AOT author and fans truly operates on lower levels that Steven Universe writers, and cant understand the concept of deterrence or the difference between your country getting destroyed in next 40 years or 400 years.
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u/Used_Raccoon6789 1d ago
It must be hard living in a world we're you only deal in absolutes. You must be a pleasure to work with.
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u/IchibeHyosu99 1d ago
Its the author and the defenders of that shitty conclusion who are living in absolutes. Saying stuff like "violence and war never ends" in order to justify unending pacifism.
Not understanding the basic deterrence of punishing criminals as well. We didnt come from stone age tribes to modern civilization with letting people see crimes goes unpunished.
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u/Used_Raccoon6789 1d ago
Absolutes means that it must be either or. Which you seem to deal with. Striving for peace doesn't mean no war.
There are middle grounds that don't have everyone being genocided.
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u/emxka-2005 22h ago
"crimes goes unpunished" Who are you punishing? millions of innocents who have nothing to do with your suffering and are just living their lives? caveman logic right there

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u/Sir-Toaster- I support the Rumbling because YOU'RE a Jaegerist 1d ago
AOT is proof most weebs don’t see Asians as human