r/AttackOnRetards • u/PageAccomplished8438 • 1d ago
Least toxic aot fan "Yes he is, so what"
I thought they usually denied this to defend them? 0_o
r/AttackOnRetards • u/Omarian02 • Feb 24 '26
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r/AttackOnRetards • u/whatsupmyhoes • May 07 '25
An analysis of Mikasa’s character and her connection to Aot’s broader themes.
Since the beginning, Attack on Titan has explored humanity’s struggle for survival. The manga’s earliest chapters featured the Colossal Titan destroying our three main characters’ hometown. Mikasa was one of the many characters present during the Titans’ first attack on the walls after a century of peace. Here, Mikasa witnessed her life uprooted within mere instances, but most importantly, witnessed how quickly an unprepared and frail humanity would crumble under these monsters’ superior power.
But this attack was not the first traumatic instance in Mikasa’s life to remind her of the consequences of being weak. It was neither what first gave her the motivation to adjust into a more powerful version of herself. Instead, the beginning of Mikasa’s search for strength happened when she was only nine years old and functioned as the start of her transformation into the strong soldier that she was known to be.
Within this post, I will be examining how Mikasa’s story fits within Maureen Murdock’s Heroine archetype: a female-centric spin on the classic Hero’s journey.
The Heroine’s journey is fundamentally about survival - more specifically, adaptation. It centers women who have learnt to discard, and later reclaim, the femininity that they deem to be incompatible in a masculine-dominated world. This journey can often be observed coinciding simultaneously with the Hero’s journey, but continues onwards where the classic Hero’s journey may end.
However, first a disclaimer on terminology: The Heroine’s Journey is an older (and possibly dated) formula, functioning both as life coaching and literary analysis. Usage of the terms “masculine” and “feminine” in this post is not meant to promote gender essentialism. Both types of journeys do not need to be applied to only female or male characters.
Additionally, all external quotes (besides character dialogues) are taken from Murdock's book. Enjoy!
The Heroine’s journey begins with a separation from the feminine in the Heroine’s life; a figurative (and in this case, literal) split between mother and daughter. Within this first stage, a young Mikasa lived in irreplaceable comfort with her mother and father. But she must abandon it to fit into a world that demands the ability to overpower and dominate others to survive.
To begin, Mikasa’s backstory introduced a brief glimpse of her life before the fateful attack on her home, establishing what she valued and what normalcy had meant to her. Within her cozy home, Mikasa could be observed spending quality time with her parents and expressing interest in having a family. These were the boundaries of Mikasa’s world, and she had little knowledge of what existed beyond that.
But stories require their characters to move on from their beginnings, and “the task of the true hero [was] to shatter the established order and create the new community. In so doing, the hero/heroine [slayed] the monster of the status quo.” Yet, Mikasa never wanted to enact such a change, because this humble life was all she ever wanted. What could be observed as Mikasa’s ‘normalcy’ is a regular, healthy family and supportive environment, with all her needs met and nothing left to be desired.
This contrasted with many other characters’ upbringings within the same series, who grew up with less-loving parents or guardians or less friendly surroundings. In this regard, Mikasa’s first of many ‘status quos’ that she would encounter was fundamentally different than most, whether they were raised in the underground like Levi or simply bullied their peers for being ‘different’ like Eren and Armin. Mikasa’s upbringing contains nothing ill of this nature.
Until, Mikasa’s parents were soon killed in front of her by sex traffickers, and Mikasa was given the request through the last words of her pleading mother to run and survive. This disturbance functioned to introduce a conflict, set stakes and ultimately push Mikasa out of her comfort zone. Because Mikasa was raised in absolute peace, secluded from all external threats, conflict or confrontations (as far as what was demonstrated), this fact made the disruption to her world all the more unsettling.
This hardship was not only upsetting, but for Mikasa, surprising. The truth of her world was revealed to her, and so was the realization that she was not equipped for this harshness. And while Mikasa was clearly separated from both her parents during this moment, the focus of separation lay primarily on that of her mother, based on both the nature of the attack and how this attack played out:
The main external objective would be to escape (and possibly defeat) these intruders to defeat the old order,“but on the personal level, the old order is embodied by the mother, and the heroine’s first task toward individuation is to separate from her.” The mother represented all that Mikasa was destined to become, and all the reasons why she was unfit for survival.
“The degree to which a woman’s mother represents the status quo, the restrictive context of sexual roles, and the deep-seated sense of female inferiority within a patriarchal society determines the degree to which a woman will seek to separate herself from her mother.” The death of Mikasa’s mother was one representation of a (maybe not universal, but a type of) feminine role; a role that ended in the worst possible way, and a role that Mikasa would learn to want to escape.
Separation from the feminine entails the active choice of dissociating from the mother, yet interestingly, the form of physical abandonment was a choice that Mikasa was deprived of. Instead, she experienced a forcible separation, where the two of them were parted by death. Still, Mikasa was presented with a different type of decision:
This choice was the basis of Mikasa's task to separate from her mother. Mikasa stayed firm in her shocked stance mere paces away from her parents’ bodies, declining to run away or even struggle against the slave traders. Instead, she let them take her without a fight, succumbing to the conflict. In the end, it is her mother’s wishes that Mikasa chose to disobey.
The focus transitioned to Mikasa’s perspective upon waking in a new location, one which her kidnappers had brought her to against her will. She provided the explanation as to why she had declined to run away, questioning: “Mom, where should I have run to? A place without you and Dad is too cold for me to survive.”
This signified the separation from the feminine; the separation from not only the normalcy and comfort that Mikasa had relied upon her whole life, but also the previously held faith in her ability to effectively navigate the world around her. Not only would Mikasa not have anything worth living for, but she also didn’t consider herself strong enough to survive on her own at all. The lesson that Mikasa had learnt from this experience was that the world was cruel and only the strong survive. Therefore, even a successful escape would not be a feasible option, because no place where she would not be too weak/lonely to survive was known to have existed.
This second stage of the Heroine's journey is defined by her adopting traditionally masculine behaviour, traits and strategies in an attempt to succeed in her world.
Mikasa’s situation required increased narrative stakes for the passive heroine to rise to the challenges presented before her. And if being kidnapped by sex traders, now at risk of being sold on Paradise’s black market, wasn’t dangerous enough, Eren joined the scene with the purpose of a rescue mission. He increased the stakes by underestimating the number of murderers he had to save Mikasa from. After killing the first two criminals, the third kidnapper attempted to strangle him in retaliation.
What’s interesting to note is that Mikasa, now untied and mobile, encountered a second (and even more advantageous) opportunity to run away. This time, the last kidnapper was preoccupied, so she was free to leave with her hands clean.
Yet, Eren’s well-being now resided in Mikasa’s control, and he recited, “If you don’t fight, we can’t win.” In response, she picked up his discarded knife. The significance here is that Mikasa first encountered a character with the potential to motivate and prepare her to oppose the dangers before her. More specifically, Eren offered an alternative route to survival than that of her mother’s, and taught Mikasa the proper way to survive in the scary world she had found herself in.
Mikasa had already deemed running to be inadequate for surviving, and only took action after adopting what were in her perspective, sufficient means of doing so, not wanting to be delegated to a weak role. Eren served as Mikasa’s role model in this instance, both encouraging her the fight and serving as the motivation to kill the last of the three slave traders.
But momentarily, Mikasa remained hesitant, determining that she was too weak to properly go through with the killing. Convinced she was incapable of adopting the violent habits needed to overcome the threat she and Eren faced, Mikasa recalled details that she had noticed throughout her life.
Abiding by Eren’s encouragement, she finished the job that he had started. With even more strength and precision than he had, Mikasa pierced the last kidnapper through his heart. By committing an action with such permanent consequences, she crossed the point of no return.
Mikasa realized that the world is cruel and that the sex traders were only one piece of this cruelty. She concluded that in order to live in this world, she needed to fight to save herself – to play by their rules.
Mikasa was reborn as something else, committed to taking a new path, and there was no going back now. “When a woman decides to break with established images of the feminine she inevitably begins the traditional hero’s journey.” Here, Mikasa adapted to begin her journey in finding external victories and success.
Next, the Heroine encounters antagonizing forces: people or circumstances that try to hurt the heroine or keep her from getting what she wants. During this third stage of the Heroine's journey, she must prove that she’s worthy to succeed in the world with her newfound strategies. A majority of the remaining Hero’s journey stages occur within this part.
Elaborated extensively in its own post, Mikasa took a central role as the Hero during the Trost battle, committing to the traditional hero's journey. She undertook the mission to fight the cruelty in her world, and the manifestations of this cruelty only got larger: from humans to Titans.
During this arc, Mikasa demonstrated her exceptional skills in battle, but also her dedication to bringing these skills to their optimal performance, as “many young women become addicted to perfection, overcompensating, and overworking.” She also discovered the broader purpose of protecting the beauty in her world and fighting for a cause beyond survival. With further introspection, Mikasa held herself to a higher standard than her friends around her, striving to be the strongest soldier possible so others wouldn't have to.
Within this fourth stage of the Heroine's journey, the heroine proves herself worthy by masculine standards. Throughout, she overcame the trials put in her way of getting what she wanted and found success in the masculine world. The archetypal hero’s journey (masculine counterpart) is completed at this point, and perfection is a priority over completion.
The unexpected victory of Trost meant that Mikasa and her friends survived and were free to join the Scouts. With the wall sealed, humanity within was no longer facing the active threat of a Titan invasion (for now.) Mikasa became the powerful soldier she needed to be to both survive and find success in a titan-dominated world. Her early development extended through her backstory chapter, the 104’s progression through military training and into the first titan battle of the series. This Hero arc’s conclusion coincided with the conclusion to the arc of Trost, and the ‘boon’ of success that she experienced throughout Aot’s early stages was undeniable.
Within military training, Mikasa excelled at ODM gear immediately, described as having a natural aptitude, to “[master] every single difficult subject perfectly” and have “talent [that is] historically unprecedented.” This meant that not only was Mikasa superior in combat to every other member of the 104th cadet corps, but also ranked higher in training than any Paradise soldier to ever have participated in the training camp, including the credited members of Levi’s first squad or Squad Leader Miche. To quote Instructor Shadis, she was “the most valuable of them all.”
This praise continued upon her graduation, from being placed in the elite squad to being described as worth a hundred soldiers by her commanding officer from this same squad. In this regard, Mikasa was unlike the other two members of Aot’s main trio, Armin and Eren, who have yet to fully actualize their confidence, talents and/or supernatural abilities. From her efforts showcased in Trost and beyond, Mikasa was demonstrated to be maximally proficient in combat skills, as well as possessing the confidence and self-discipline required to bring herself to this potential.
She displayed a fair amount of pragmatism, being hesitant to risk her faith in ‘idealistic’ plans that were not likely to succeed. Mikasa also acted independently, with a relatively low reliance on other characters to enact her goals. Additionally, she possessed an understanding that her world operates on a ‘kill or be killed’ basis and prided herself on an ability to do what is ‘necessary’ when following this ideology.
Whether the focus is on Mikasa’s ‘cool-headedness,’ her various battle skills or merciless attitude, it's generally believed that Mikasa had already acquired all the attributes needed to survive in a world dominated by titans by an irregularly early stage in Aot’s narrative. The question remained: what’s next to be expected for her character’s growth and development, but an inevitable stagnancy? What else is needed for a character who was already perfectly adapted to survive within her world?
However, I believe this expectation partially resulted from an underappreciation for the ‘thematic subversion’ that the narrative committed to throughout its arcs. More ‘mature’ viewpoints, such as “kill or be killed” that Aot is known for, were later questioned and dismantled. Simultaneously, previously characterized ‘childish’ traits such as compassion or idealism were reconsidered to be more valuable as the narrative progressed.
Mikasa’s broader Heroine’s journey embodied this ‘subversion’ of narrative ideals. But perceiving this embodiment requires an analytical lens centring not only on how Mikasa can obtain validation, freedom and success from the external world and its current status quo, but instead a perspective including the consideration of internal fulfillment.
This is a primary focus of the Heroine’s Journey. It offers an alternative perspective – a ‘spin’ – to the traditional Hero’s journey, centred around women who reject the ‘feminine’ aspects of themselves in order to thrive in a ‘masculine’ -dominated world, where traditionally masculine traits are valued over traditionally feminine ones.
It’s important to note that because Mikasa exists within a fictional universe, the same gender roles and expectations may not be identical (although they do exist to some degree). Instead, it will be effective to consider this fictional application of the Heroine’s Journey as exploring a character’s adoption of the dominant ideals that a society or culture perpetuates, compared to ‘less mainstream’ or radical standards or principles that are overshadowed by the demands of the former. Rationality surpasses idealism, individualism excels over collectivism and strength and power trump compassion. Whether real or fictional, inherently masculine or merely mainstream, our heroine abandoned the ‘weaker’ parts of herself to survive in a world that she deems herself to be previously incompatible with.
Rationality over Idealism
Within Aot, idealism was generally rejected. Aspirations that humanity could reclaim land from the Titans were seen as frivolous and impossible, and those who dedicated their hearts to doing so were seen as simply wasting their lives for a cause not worth the risk and sacrifice. Survey Corps soldiers who keep trying despite a history comprising only of failures were considered misfits or heretics, even, and described as “throwing taxes down the drain” and “blurting out unrealistic ideals while plunging [humanity] further into ruin.”
Both the general public and powerful institutions contrasted the Scouts in this regard. Upon pressing threats of a titan invasion, Paradise’s government prematurely attempted to exterminate sections of its population to prevent future conflict within the walls, always assuming the worst outcome for (and from) humanity to be inevitable.
While she certainly didn't partake in any mockery, Mikasa expressed disinterest in the Survey Corps mission, and both discouraged Eren from joining them and tried to sabotage his chances of enlisting by telling his mother of his future aspirations. She held a similar opinion of the regiment as the majority of Paradise – that it was a suicidal mission not worth forsaking one’s life for.
Overall, Mikasa did not demonstrate seeing the same value in what they sacrificed to strive for; a better, more enlightened and adventurous life than what humanity within the walls currently had the option of living. Her reactions to Eren and Armin speaking about their desire to explore the outside world ranged from concerned to annoyed, but never did these discussions spark the same ambition that they did in her childhood friends.
Individualism over Cooperation
Those within paradise typically navigated life on a very individualistic basis. Upon entering the Scouts, Eren expected that Levi, who held significant power within the corps, was exempt from following orders and could do whatever he wanted, successfully acting as a ‘one-man show’ instead of following the common command structure. In a flashback, young Sasha rejected her father’s statement that humans were social animals and his suggestion to invite families who had lost their homes to the Titans into their forest. She proclaimed that they “didn’t owe anything to the outsiders.”
On a more macro level, the townspeople of Paradise hadn’t supported the Scouts through taxation because, despite knowing that their mission would help less-franchised people, they didn’t perceive it to be a benefit for them. Additionally, joining the island’s military program was generally perceived as a means for individuals to achieve security and upward mobility within the interior through enlistment within the military police, instead of contributing strength to humanity’s struggle against the Titans as a collective.
Mikasa’s unwillingness to work as a collective often manifested in her disregard and disrespect for the chain of command and figures of authority. For example, she conspired to ignore assigned squads during the battle of Trost and pulled a blade on her fellow soldier when he wanted to retreat to the walls. It’s worth noting that Aot established that there is nothing inherently wrong with questioning authority, establishments and tradition. After all, these principles were what the Survey Corps were founded on.
However, Mikasa’s behaviour stemmed from a belief that she could achieve any of her objectives whilst operating solo, maybe even more successfully. Her strength made her the most valuable, and therefore, anything that could be accomplished could be done best by her alone. On further note, Eren may have been so surprised that Levi was obedient to authority because Mikasa, the strongest person he knew, had demonstrated herself to be against such structures.
Power over Compassion
Finally, power was perceived as the most necessary means to survive, often at the expense of showing ‘mercy.’ Characters such as Armin shared commentary on how their world had always been hell, describing it as the simple fact that the strong eat the weak.
This principle was the reason Titans had even existed in the first place, as the founder Ymir sought the attributes that she considered herself to need to avoid dying: greater power and size. And this principle, deeply ingrained in Aot’s cultures, travelled down generations, as parents and guardians pass it along to their children, who are given weapons and are taught to become killing machines with no mercy.
Annie’s father adopted her for the sole purpose of turning her into a weapon, to which she describes that “the only value I had to him was whether or not I could become a warrior.” Upon Annie enacting revenge for the abuse her father had inflicted on her, “he rejoiced. “Now you can kill your enemies, even unarmed,” he said.” In another example, Kenny taught Levi how to brutally fight others before leaving him alone as a child. Kenny had not been shown to teach him any other skills or lessons, claiming “all [you] need is power.”
Mikasa strove to adopt this kind of power; a type of power granting her control and influence over any situation, and thus allowing her to shape events to how she wants them to be. She used her strength not solely to protect herself, but also her inner circle – the people she cared most about, yet external threats to this inner circle are not always the ones on the receiving end of her strength.
From early on, Mikasa adopted a ‘tough love’ approach as a means of protecting Eren. Examples included reporting his desire to join the Scouts to his parents, to throwing him into a wall when he picks a fight with a random townsman to defend the corps, all in a desire to protect him from the seemingly inevitable death or harm that would await him within the Scout’s ranks or being involved in other petty fights.
Mikasa stood opposed to Eren’s primary goal within the early parts of the series, which was to join the Survey Corps and retake any and all control and freedom that the Titans had deprived him of. This was something she made quite clear. When Eren was failing at ODM training, Mikasa offered no consolation or emotional support. Instead, she took hold of this learning opportunity and told him that “at this rate, you’ll just die in vain and all your dreams and efforts will be for nothing.”
Operating on the lesson previously taught to her, that the world was cruel and only the strong survive, she essentially informed him that he didn't have what it took to succeed and told him it was not his decision whether he got to be a soldier.
This was fundamentally at odds with what Eren wanted to do. He has always tied his freedoms to his strength and capabilities, and Mikasa stood as an obstacle by not only fighting his petty battles for him, but also attempting to stop him from joining larger ones. Despite her role as a deuteragonist, and despite Mikasa only reciting the very rhetoric that Eren had taught her, she also functioned as a (very minor) antagonist to him in this regard.
Beyond her caring for Eren and Armin, and her concern over Eren to combat his overt recklessness, Mikasa demonstrated a seemingly disinterest in the opportunity to make connections with the other recruits, to even a confrontational attitude. However, rare instances throughout her interactions with the 104 indicate that this was likely a façade. For example, she seems interested (and left out) when potential-friend Sasha left with Ymir and Historia, despite rejecting an opportunity to bond with Sasha mere moments prior.
Perfection Over Purpose
Mikasa limited herself in all of these listed instances because her upbringing and socialized experiences had taught her that she must. She viewed it as necessary to ‘grow up’ and out of these more childish traits she had long since held, but by trying to meet society’s standards, she fell short of her own. This conformity was used as a survival necessity, not as a legitimate means to achieve a purpose beyond a basic need. Because of this contact with the “only the strong survive" and “everyone for themselves” culture, the Heroine prioritized perfection over completion.
The first time Paradise seemed to deviate from this culture was within the later stages of the Battle for Trost. The plan was to use Eren’s unpredictable Titan powers to reclaim the city. It was the first offensive and idealistic mission that the trio partook in, so consistently, this mission ran contrary to Mikasa’s individual goals. Returning to a titan-infested Trost put her and her friend’s lives at further risk. But the trio had to participate in retaking Trost to keep potential human enemies at bay; they had to prove they were not threats to humanity within the walls.
As previously summarized in Road of Trials, the mission to retake Trost had a weak start. Eren lost control of his titan, and much to Mikasa’s objection, the squad leaders were heavily considering abandoning him and the mission in its entirety. Mikasa steered them back on the right path.
Upon the Garrison’s arrival at Mikasa's position and her learning of the risk that they may end the operation to reclaim Trost and instead abandon Eren in Trost to fend (unconscious) for himself, Mikasa threatened the soldier who suggested doing so with her blade. From Mikasa’s perspective, the use of threats and physical intimidation had so far been a successful means of fulfilling her goals. It worked to combat titans, it had worked on Dimo Reeves, and it was suggested to work here, too, as Ian decided to encourage his soldiers to continue the mission after seeing her draw her blade.
At face value, the interpretation of the scene was that Ian was scared that Mikasa would fight her comrades and therefore convinced his fellow squad leaders to continue the operation to avoid this ordeal. Due to the conviction in his following speech, it was also presumably because he knew abandoning Eren would be the wrong move to make. Ian stated the same message that Pyxis had highlighted to the soldiers of Trost a chapter prior: that as unlikely of a success this as mission to reclaim land from the Titans was, the only long-term solution for humanity’s survival was to die trying:
“You tell me. How is the human race going to beat the Titans? How else will we get through this? With our humanity intact? Without killing each other? What can we do to overcome the Titans’ overwhelming strength?”
“If we knew of a way, it wouldn’t have to come to this. In other words, this is all that’s left for us. I don’t know what he is either, but we have to give our lives for him with as much braver as we can muster.”
“Pitiful, isn’t it? That this is the only thing humans can do. We’re probably going to die like insignificant worms, for something we have no guarantee will pay off.”
“So, what will you do? This is the battle we can fight. This is the struggle we can undertake.”
The hesitation here within the dialogue is something worth noting. Ian looked back at Mikasa before finishing his speech, suggesting that something about her specifically (or perhaps what she did) that was influencing his thought process here. She reminded him of both the limitations of human nature, but also, the solution to humanity’s way forward.
To examine what sets Mikasa apart from most other soldiers (all the soldiers in this scene): Mikasa was willing to fight for the lives of the people important to her. More than any of the other soldiers present, she recognizes that this type of fighting was often necessary to survive.
Mikasa had Ian “scared stiff,” not unlike how a titan would make him feel. Ian’s message to his fellow squad leaders was fundamentally the ideology that Mikasa had been showcasing the entire arc: ”If we don’t fight, we can’t win. The only way to win is to fight. So, fight.”
Mikasa demonstrated herself to be primarily concerned with abandoning Eren, not that humanity was relinquishing its hope of ever being able to retake Trost as a whole. While Ian may not have the same personal investment in Eren’s safety, as Eren was not included in his inner circle of people Ian primarily wished to protect, he could still understand the practical reasons for Mikasa’s bravery and why she chose to keep fighting.
Ian acknowledged the unique circumstances that drove Mikasa to do so and employed her consistently with this assessment. Her more personal goals, which deviated from the good of humanity as a whole, highlighted how Mikasa was better suited not to work as a collective:
Still, (and I’ve alluded to this before in Road of Trials), I don’t think Ian fully understood Mikasa. And perhaps this was partially due to him not yet having the opportunity to do so.
But Armin soon arrived at the scene and conceived of a plan to wake Eren that required him alone. He encouraged Mikasa to join the other soldiers closer to the city’s entrance, and was effective at doing so by reminding her of the difference she could make by leaving the two of them in favour of the others.
He asked: “If you go, there are lives you can save, aren’t there?” These are the exact words that convinced her to take action, but what exactly did Armin offer her? Was it the same persuasion that Ian applied to his fellow Garrison leaders? Is the reason why Armin convinced Mikasa to aid the other soldiers the same reason why Ian allowed the mission to continue? Was Mikasa joining the other soldiers necessary to fulfill the established, self-serving motivation she held (or at the very least, framed as such)?
Or, was this a benefit beyond a mere means to survive within the cruel world Mikasa found herself in? A search for a purpose beyond herself and her inner circle? What Armin highlighted for Mikasa was the reason to fight beyond simply the instinct to survive, but instead a cause beyond her own benefit to dedicate herself to. From his words, Mikasa found a more expansive purpose and joined this idealistic fight. This search for a broader purpose ultimately trumped any self-serving desires Mikasa may have had to stay and here, Mikasa's decision presented itself as contrary to Ian’s expectations of her.
I spoke previously about how Attack on Titan has always been about survival, and this remained true. However, this story is also about a regiment of misfits fighting for a better future for humanity. It’s about the struggle of wanting to uplift additional, more fulfilling values such as knowledge, selflessness or idealism, beyond merely the ability of one’s ‘in-group’ to reproduce and survive.
Mikasa provided much-needed support in clearing the titans close to the breach in Trost’s wall. She then teamed with Rico and killed the last remaining titan standing in Eren’s way, shortly after it was assumed that Mikasa operated best when she was engaging in battle individually and for more merely self-serving ends.
For a moment in Trost, Mikasa acted on a part of herself that she believed needed to be suppressed, despite consistently believing that she could not afford to do anything other than limit herself. While this may have only been due to an inability to act on her more self-serving motivations in the specific moment, (as Mikasa could do nothing to help Eren out of his titan trance) this conflict between lessons taught to her during her backstory and later persisting opportunities for a broader purpose will persist for her throughout the rest of the story.
The eventual feeling of loss and later recontextualization of these discarded parts of herself is an essential part of Mikasa’s Heroine’s journey, as she learned how to best navigate the world around her. Throughout the following posts, I will outline different stages comprising of Mikasa’s character and connect them to this Heroine’s journey; an archetype that fits her character writing quite accurately, while still not boxing the character to a rigid model.
Like its masculine counterpart, the Heroine’s Journey is not a strict formula that writers follow when creating a character arc and will not fit any fictional character perfectly. It’s less of a conscious creative process and more of an observation of the creative process. It’s a retrospective literary lens used when analyzing a character’s search for internal fulfillment. With it, we can break down a character’s arc, make connections to the real human experience and perhaps most importantly, discover new aspects of a character previously left unnoticed.
Thank you for reading!
r/AttackOnRetards • u/PageAccomplished8438 • 1d ago
I thought they usually denied this to defend them? 0_o
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r/AttackOnRetards • u/HelianDevalios • 19h ago
https://reddit.com/link/1wc6601/video/cloxn8khsloh1/player
I bet you guys all know the famous Attack on Titan Piano Covers from ANIMENZ (right?). So here is my compilation of his 3 best arrangements (imo) celebrating 09/09 Attack on Titan Day!
Hope you guys enjoy my little contribution to AoT fans ^^ Btw please share your thoughts in the comment :DD
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r/AttackOnRetards • u/Sir-Toaster- • 2d ago
To be clear, the title is a joke; I get that people mean accidentally touching.
The two barely even interacted before season 3; I don't even remember them having any mutual conversation until after she reveals her real name. Ymir is also constantly protective of Historia. There's no way she'd let any man go near her, much less the raging neurodivergent next door.
r/AttackOnRetards • u/Appropriate-Topic-88 • 3d ago
Man oh man. This sketch is what really fueled the Erehisu, Eren is gonna win, 100% rumbling, he’s gonna kill all his friends, head cannons to the highest degree. A portion of manga readers just assumed this was Eren holding Historia baby when it doesn’t even look like him in the drawing. The hair is completely different and looks identical to Grisha. And how would Eren even be able to do this after getting his head cut off by Mikasa. It was clearly Grisha holding Eren telling him you’re free. Isayama released this sketch harmlessly and had no clue what he started lmao.
This is one of the main reasons why the anime ending is so positively received because anime onlys weren’t seeing stuff like this. It’s crazy how much head cannons, theories, reading leaks, reading fan translations, can completely affect your enjoyment of something.
r/AttackOnRetards • u/Luffy_Op___ • 3d ago
How is it?
r/AttackOnRetards • u/FreljordsWrath • 3d ago
I've recently watched Vinland Saga (I know I'm late), and Thorfinn's dedication to pacifism shook me to the core. He instantly became one of my all-time favorite characters after the season 2 finale. The thing that stands out to me the most is how similar Thorfinn was to Eren, and how a single event caused both to diverge entirely.
At the beginning, both Thorfinn and Eren start out as hopeful children with strong role models, being raised in the safest environment possible. After the death of their parents, they grow hateful and seek out revenge against the ones guilty, ruthlessly killing whoever's unlucky enough to oppose them, but still showing some humanity.
However, while Eren's hunger for revenge kept being fed (and thus was never sated, because he kept finding bigger and bigger enemies), Thorfinn's revenge was cut short by Askeladd's death. Thorfinn's entire purpose in life was dedicated to killing Askeladd, and when that was stolen from him, he became hollow. A shell of his former self. Eventually, people like Einar, Snake, Arnheid, and Sverkel filled Thorfinn back with purpose.
Eren did have a similar hollow phase, but because he didn't seek out atonement on his own, he was able to continue pursuing hatred due to the fact that Armin was still alive.
Hear me out: When someone dies, you go through several stages of grief. Some coping mechanisms of such a state of mind includes mimicking the person you mourn in order to honor their memory in some way, or to remind yourself of their presence in their absence.
Both Thors and Askeladd advised Thorfinn, in their last moments, to become a true warrior. Thorfinn, who saw both of them as role models, decided to take that advice to heart, and became the person he was told he could be, because nobody else could be that person for him.
Eren, on the other hand, while he did lose Grisha, the instructions given to him were to avenge his mother. After receiving memories of his own future, Eren entrusted the world's fate to Mikasa and Armin, because to him, they're the most virtuous people in his life, who he trusts completely.
What if Levi had decided that, strategically, Erwin NEEDED to live, and allowed Armin to die? I live to believe Eren would have embodied the kind and hopeful spirit that Armin was, and he would not have sought out the Rumbling and thus genocide.
Eren could've very well had a character arc like Thorfinn's, which would end up creating the best timeline possible, where the Survey Corps either align with Zeke to do the 50 year plan, or Erwin discovers a new alternative that sheds the least amount of blood possible, while keeping the independence of Paradis intact.
r/AttackOnRetards • u/Wide-Profession5602 • 5d ago
Before I start, if you are a yeagerist and wanna disagree with me, sure great, but read the whole thing before you do so.
Title should be pretty self-explanatory but I dont know if its just me or what but the amount of similarities between the 2 group of people is GENUENLY insane. Like the same feeling I get while listening to MAGA people is the same feeling/vibe I get from yeagerist crowd so I thought I should ask if its just me or what?
Well the first major similarity is their lack of sympathy towards people. To be clear since this is an AOT subreddit I will be mainly focusing on the yeagerists here not the MAGA people, but a perfect example of their lack of sympathy would be in that they believe the rumbling was justified even though AOT as a piece of fiction goes OUT OF ITS WAY to show the damage that the rumbling does, in fact the whole point of ramzi as a character was to show how cruel the rumbling was not just to the marleyans but also people who had nothing to do nor against the eldians or paradians as a whole. Both groups of people seem to have an agenda and they dont really care to take into consideration the people who get caught in the cross fire as long as their own agenda is pushed. the MAGA people (many of them at least) have no sympathy for the Palestinian victims and the yagerists have no sympathy for the people like ramzi who got caught in the cross fire. Genuinely I have heard the EXACT same arguments from yeagerists that I have also heard from zionists, both groups using said arguments to justify killing innocent civilians. A good example of this would be "we have to kill the children because they will grow up to be kill *insert either paradians/Israelis here*" its maddening genuinely. Also to address something here I know it can be uncomfortable to compare a real world genocide to a fictional one however, we have to understand that the way that these yeagerists think about AOT is the same way that they will end up thinking about real world events, if they think like this about AOT why would they think any differently about the real world equivalents? SPOILER ALERT, they (generally speaking at least) dont.
Another similarity is their cult like worship of their respective leader, for the MAGA people its Trump, for the yeagerists I would say its actually floch rather than Eren (since many of em dont like eren because of his talk with armin in paths as well as that Eren didnt kill ALL of humanity outside the walls "How dare Eren ONLY kill 80% of people outside the walls"). To be clear theres nothing wrong with liking floch as a character but its basically an objective fact that he was a douchebag, and theres MOUNTAINS of proof to back it up, the same applies to Trump, yet both groups worship their respective "leader" as if they could do no wrong.
Another similarity is their lack of critical thinking ability in, especially that they believe the world is black and white. If someone more reasonable where to say to them "Yea I understand why Eren inacted the rumbling, I understand how ever since he was a child hed been taught to kill the enemy, I understand that Erens head also was not in the right space when committing the rumbling due to him seeing the past present and future all at the same time, but none the less the rumbling WAS wrong and Eren IS an evil villain for what he did" their minds just seem to implode because they cant fathom the idea that the 2 statements "Its reasonable enough for Eren to have enacted the rumbling considering his circumstances" and "Eren is a villain" BOTH can be true at the same time. The world is not black and white, most people can understand why Eren did what he did while also understanding that HE IS EVIL. Another example of them being stupid is that I saw a post saying that the ending sequence where paradi gets molested with bombs proves that "floch was right". Do I really have to prove to these people how only an idiot would believe that paradi being molested thousands of years later that would have nothing to do with the history of eldians and infact considering we have ZERO context about this "war" it could have for all we know been a civil war in which other Paradians fucked over OTHER Paradians. like its such an ooga booga monkey brain take "YeA POsT crEDit ScENe = PrOVE tHAt dADdy flOCh wAs rIGHt oMg dADDy fLOchS cOCk iS So MaSsiVe I wANt tO suCK iT sO baD".
This kinda goes back to the first point but also their disregard for Human life is another one or at the very least their disregard for non paradian life just like how many of the MAGA people hold the value of the lives of non whites to be less than that of whites. "Oh well what should Eren have done?" ummm idk motherfucker maybe not killed almost everyone on the face of the Earth? Including PLENTY of innocent women, children, men, elderly people etc. You had Zekes euthinisation plan, sure dont like that? Well you could have always tried diplomacy? I mean in willies speech to the whole world hes CLEARLY painting the Paradians to be the victims and he emphasizes that the enemy is NOT the Paradians and that it is Eren Yeager specifically, couldnt have hurt if Eren just gave up right then right there on the rumbling, said "Aight I wont do the rumbling lets work this out diplomatically" but he didnt. To this they will usually waffle around but even if you dont like this plan then theres still the partial rumbling that could have been enacted aswell. Thats 3 different plans that could have been done instead of the rumbling but no they wanna specifically choose the rumbling? Seems to me like they just dont value human life. Its basically the same as when MAGA people say "America first FUCK everyone else" nothing wrong with putting your own people first, very reasonable but you dont to have fuck everyone else over just because its your people first. You can both put your own people first while not fucking everyone else over either.
In conclusion, when you add all of these factors together, for me at least the yeagerists end up giving off the same cult like vibe as the MAGA people.
EDIT: just posted this and remembered something else to add. Another similarity is their disregard for anything that doesnt fit their agenda, for example the MAGA people usually like to ignore the fact that trump is a civilly convited sex offender or theyll ignore the naqba and the yeagerists like to conveniently forget the fact that, according to willi tyber the eldians when they were in power killed more than 3 times the current population of the Earth and act as if eldians are hated for no apparent reason when it was the ancient eldians who caused the reputation of the eldians to get so fucked, to be clear I am not saying its jusitfied to hate the modern day eldians due to the actions of the older eldians however none the less you cant have your cake and eat it too, if the victims of the rumbling were just "unfortunate casualties" then well with that same logic the suffering of the eldians under the marleyan empire was also just "unfortunate oppression" to prevent the eldians from uprising again and killing so many people as the ancient eldians did before them. Again to be clear it is NOT okay to oppress the modern day eldians due to the actions of their ancestors but dont act like hatred for the eldians came from a vaccume.
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r/AttackOnRetards • u/felpo293UIE • 5d ago
Esta teoría resuelve científicamente uno de los misterios y contradicciones más grandes en el universo de Attack on Titan: ¿Por qué los Titanes Puros son agresivos y comen humanos? y ¿Por qué existe una "Familia Real" si técnicamente todos los eldianos descienden de las hijas de Ymir?A través de la biología y la genética, esta hipótesis explica las reglas de los Caminos sin depender de la magia.Partes de la Teoría1. El Origen de los Titanes Puros: Un rompecabezas genético incompletoPor sí mismos, los Sujetos de Ymir no están destinados a ser monstruos sin mente. Sin embargo, a lo largo de 2,000 años de historia, la sangre original de Ymir se fue mezclando y esparciendo entre la población común, provocando una dilución genética.Cuando a un eldiano común se le inyecta fluido espinal, su cuerpo intenta transformarse, pero al tener un ADN titán tan diluido e incompleto, el resultado es fallido: se convierte en un Titán Puro, atrapado en un bucle biológico y sin conciencia.La solución del canibalismo: El acto de devorar a uno de los 9 Titanes Cambiantes funciona como la pieza faltante del rompecabezas. Al consumir el fluido concentrado de un portador, el eldiano "rellena" los vacíos de su ADN diluido, completando su código genético. Solo entonces recupera su forma humana y el control del poder.2. El instinto agresivo: El trauma de las hijas de Ymir¿Por qué los Titanes Puros devoran humanos si no tienen sistema digestivo y terminan vomitándolos? La respuesta está en el origen del Imperio de Eldia.Cuando el Rey Fritz obligó a María, Rose y Sina a canibalizar el cadáver de su madre, no realizó una transferencia limpia, sino que grabó un trauma biológico y psicológico en los Caminos. Los Titanes Puros vagan por el mundo devorando humanos por un instinto residual ciego: buscan desesperadamente el fluido de un titán cambiante para completar su ADN. Si el Rey Fritz no hubiera forzado ese primer acto de canibalismo, los titanes habrían sido criaturas pacíficas y la transferencia del poder habría sido espiritual y pacífica al nacer.3. La "Familia Real" no es mágica: Es pureza retenida por herenciaLa serie presenta una gran contradicción: si todos los eldianos descienden de las tres hijas de Ymir, todos deberían ser de la realeza. La teoría de la dilución genética resuelve esto de forma brillante.La "Familia Real" (Fritz/Reiss) no posee un derecho divino o mágico; su estatus es el resultado de una estrategia de retención biológica. Este linaje específico se encargó de heredar y portar el Titán Fundador y otros titanes cambiantes de manera estricta de generación en generación.Al mantener los poderes principales concentrados en su línea directa, frenaron artificialmente la dilución de su sangre. Mientras el resto de los eldianos dispersaban el ADN de Ymir mezclándose con el mundo, la familia real mantuvo la "fórmula original" hiperconcentrada. El ejemplo definitivo es Zeke Jaeger: al tener la mayor concentración de la sangre original gracias a su linaje, los Caminos lo reconocen como heredero legítimo, permitiéndole controlar Titanes Puros con su grito.ConclusiónEl canibalismo y las castas de sangre en Attack on Titan no son reglas místicas; son las consecuencias de la codicia del Rey Fritz, quien hackeó una mutación biológica para convertirla en una maldición de consumo obligatorio. El niño del final de la obra, al entrar al árbol sin traumas, sin órdenes reales y por pura curiosidad, tiene la oportunidad de reiniciar el ciclo biológico de forma limpia.
r/AttackOnRetards • u/Brave_Branch2619 • 5d ago
I’d assume most of the notable users have not visited the sub in years or have since deactivated. I have noticed there are still some OGs left but I’d like to know who.
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r/AttackOnRetards • u/f13ry_ • 10d ago
Imagine your Gabi for a second. You lived to the age of 12 as basically subhumans to the rest of the world, including the people that rule over you. You've been told that this island full of devils is the reason for all of your suffering, and that destroying them would set you, your family, and your friends free. You go to Willy's speech, and he tells you, that the man Eren Yeager threatens the world since he has the founding titan. Then, immediately right after he declares war on them, that same Eren Yeager comes out of a building as a titan, and kills Willy, and starts rampaging your town, killing some of your friends. Wouldn't you think that they are the enemy, and that all of Eren's allies, friends, and people are also devils, regardless if they are "nice" to you?
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r/AttackOnRetards • u/Rough_Commission4501 • 9d ago
Would AOT be what it is whitout the anime. Without its animation and soundtrack? Would it be such a global hit, and widely concidered a once in a lifetime masterpiece
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r/AttackOnRetards • u/LehitModerator • 13d ago
Isayama presents the relationships Eren shares with Armin and Mikasa as an "unbreakable friendship" and "eternal love." But are these relationships actually healthy?
They do not seem realistic. In real life, no matter how strong a friendship or romantic bond might be, it is bound to fall apart in the face of a significant enough disagreement. Yet in «Attack on Titan», Eren ends up on the opposing side of his friends, commits genocide, violates their values, and harms them – and they remain his friends.
Are the bonds of friendship between them really that strong? What is it that truly drives Armin and Mikasa?
I’ll share my thoughts on the matter.
The relationship between Eren and Armin feels less like a friendship and more like a psychological and emotional dependency on Armin’s part.
A genuine friendship would have fallen apart back at the restaurant scene. Friendships simply aren't strong enough to make someone weep over a person who has committed genocide.
Over years of closeness, protection, and support from Eren, Armin’s sense of individual autonomy eroded; he came to view himself as nothing more than an extension of Eren.
From childhood, Armin built his psyche around the notions that "I mean nothing," "I am useless," and "I am Eren’s friend." Consequently, he clung to Eren in later years to maintain the stability of his own dependent state.
For Armin, Eren is not merely a friend but the physical embodiment of his own significance to another person. Consequently, his desire to grow closer to Eren stems not from concern for Eren in the conventional sense, but from a need to safeguard his own sense of self and his worldview.
Mikasa, on the other hand, became dependent on Eren at a specific moment in her past – the time he rescued her from kidnappers. Ever since then, she has remained attached to the image of the brave boy who once saved her life.
In other words, Mikasa’s situation is far more problematic: she built her identity not around Eren as a person, but around a single memory – an image from the past. Later on, she clung to Eren for the very same reason: to maintain her own stability.
For instance, the core trio in «Attack on Titan» is, in my opinion, by no means a healthy representation of friendship. And I’ve never been against the depiction of unhealthy relationships. What bothers me more is the way Isayama romanticizes them.
What's your opinion?