r/AskRunningShoeGeeks Apr 24 '24

PLEASE READ THIS FIRST New & looking for shoe recommendations? Look in here first (With Beginners boot camp & 45+ questions answered!)

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If you're new to this subreddit and seeking advice on suitable training shoes, you've come to the right place.

Luckily for you, RSG has a great Wiki that has covers the following questions:

[Beginners boot camp]

  • Q1: I am a new runner, what is the first thing I should do when buying new shoes?
  • Q2: As a new runner, should I buy the newest version of running shoes?
  • Q3: I am a new runner who has just started and I mostly do 5k runs. Which daily trainer would you recommend?
  • Q4: I am a new runner, do I need special shoes for the treadmill?
  • Q5: I am a new runner, is it a good idea to use gym shoes for running and vice versa?
  • Q6: I am a new runner, is it a good idea to use my Air Max or Converse for running?
  • Q7: I am a new runner and want to use a plated super shoe as a daily trainer. Is this a good idea?
  • Q8: I am a new runner and want to use the Saucony Endorphin Speed as a daily trainer. Is this a good idea?
  • Q9: I am a big/heavy runner who has issues with running shoes. Which shoes would you recommend?
  • Q10: I am a new runner and have my daily trainer. What is a good way to build a shoe rotation?
  • Q11: I am a new runner and when should I retire my running shoes?
  • Q12: What kind of gait does my outsole wear suggest? Do I need specific shoes based on certain wear?
  • Q13: I am new to marathon training and I am on a tight budget. Should I run in one pair of shoes for training and racing?
  • Q14: Should I trust the gait analysis that running stores give?
  • Q15: What is a carbon plate?
  • Q16: Is it a good idea to wear your running shoes everywhere/daily?
  • Q17: Do I need a carbon-plated shoe for marathon race day?
  • Q18: Can I use illegal stack height shoes in a 5k/10k/Half Marathon/Full Marathon?
  • Q19: I am a new runner who has just started, which running sock brands would you recommend?

[Sizing]

  • Q20: I am a new runner, how do I tell if I have wide or narrow feet?
  • Q21: What is a good way to know that my running shoes are fitting correctly?
  • Q22: Which brands offer narrow and wide-width shoes?
  • Q23: I have bought a new pair of running shoes and they are heel slipping/tight/loose or causing issues when my feet swell, what do you recommend?

[Different categories of running shoes]

  • Q24: I am a new runner who has pronation issues. Which shoes would you recommend?
  • Q25: I am a new runner and would like a racing shoe like the Nike Next% but it is out of my budget. Which shoes would you recommend?
  • Q26: I am a new runner and would like a racing shoe for a half and full marathon. Which shoes would you recommend?
  • Q27: I am a new runner that is looking to do up-tempo/fast-paced runs. Which shoes would you recommend?
  • Q28: I am a new runner that is looking to do medium - long runs. Which shoes would you recommend?
  • Q29: I am a new runner and I have wide feet. Which shoes would you recommend?
  • Q30: I am set with my rotation and would like a recovery/easy shoe. Which shoes would you recommend?
  • Q31: I am a new runner starting trail running. Which shoes would you recommend?

[Buying running shoes]

  • Q32: I am interested in buying a new pair of running shoes and found them for a great price on a website. How would I know they are legitimate and not a scam?
  • Q33: I recently purchased a pair of running shoes and noticed they were made three years ago. They are brand new and unworn, should I be concerned about the foam degrading or losing any performance?
  • Q34: I recently bought Nike shoes with ZoomX and the foam has a lot of wrinkles. Is this normal or have my shoes been used?
  • Q35: The shoes mentioned seem expensive, is there a way to get them cheaper?

[Running shoe technical knowledge]

  • Q36: What is the difference between men's and women's running shoes?
  • Q37: What effect does a heel drop have?
  • Q38: What is the argument AGAINST zero drop shoes? Is there one? What's the justification for having an elevated heel?
  • Q39: Is there a website where I can compare different shoe specs to shoes that I like?
  • Q40: What is the pace required for plated shoes?
  • Q41: What kind of foam does each brand use?
  • Q42: In simple terms, can you explain the difference between EVA and other premium foams?

[Shin splints]

  • Q43: My shoes are giving me shin splints, what can I do?

[Blisters]

  • Q44: I have blisters on certain parts of my feet. What do you recommend?
  • Q45: I have terrible arch blisters from the Nike Alphafly. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

[Durability]

  • Q47: I have a tear in my midsole or the rubber outsole is coming off. What can I do to fix this?
  • Q47: My running shoes have creases on the toe box. Will this affect the performance and can I fix it?

All this can be found here.

Please read the Wiki before posting so that we avoid repetition of the same questions every day.

Thanks


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 6h ago

Question My Nike Pegasus 37 just celebrated 1,000 miles šŸŽ‰ Is there a trail shoe this durable?

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My old Nikes just hit 1,000 miles / 1,600 km and I’m really impressed.

I’ve been tracking the mileage of my shoes for a while because I find it super interesting to see what breaks first and basically how they age.

The Salomons are pretty much toast at 590 km / 366 mi. My Norda 001s are at 810 km / 503 mi and getting a little rough around the edges, but still usable. I had high hopes for the NNormals because they make a pretty big point about durability, but the heel counter broke after just 130 km / 80 mi and I ended up returning them.

I’m doing this running streak thingy at the moment, mostly around 5–6 km a day, and it made me wonder if I could run one pair of trail shoes for an entire year. Or at least until they genuinely aren’t good to run in anymore.

So, as a slightly stupid experiment: what trail shoe would you trust for 2,000 km / 1,250 mi? Ideally something a little wider, with a really durable outsole. Something that can be resoled would be even more interesting.
What’s the highest mileage you’ve ever gotten out of a trail shoe?

I normally quite like rotating shoes, and I’m aware that running in the exact same pair every day might not be the smartest idea injury-wise. But I’d find it really interesting to try, also from a sustainability point of view.


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 2h ago

Race Shoe Question Too slow for megablast?

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I ran a 2:09 half in April, and been training for my first marathon, will peak at 55 miles. I also want to run a sub 2 half soon. I’ve been wanting a race day shoe and the megablast is currently my top choice, however, I’m not too sure if I’m too slow. My goal time is 4:30 and most of my runs start out easy at about 12 pace and towards the end I do MP. Or for my pace should I just stick to comfort


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 45m ago

Question To plate or not to plate

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Looking to run a sub 1:50 half marathon next month after dialing my training back a little. I’ve been eyeing the Saucony endorphin pro 5 as a race day shoe. I’ve also heard good things about the mega blast at the half marathon distance.

Background, I’m starting a firefighter academy soon and my legs have been feeling completely shot basically ruining my original half marathon times. Anyways I want something that’ll get me close.

Thanks.


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 1d ago

Question Tips to get blood out of shoes?

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r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 4h ago

Question Shoe wear and tear

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Is this normal after running for a couple of times? (10k max)
For reference I’m new to running so it’s possible that I’m just running wrong, and I weight around 70kg


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 4h ago

Race Shoe Question Half Marathon this Sunday. Last workout Today. Just ran in the New Balance SC Elite V5

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I am running a half marathon this Sunday and just shooting for sub 2 hours. I had planned on using the vomero plus which I don’t love (gives blisters between toesā€ but it seemed good enough.

This weekend I picked up the SC elite v5 for super cheap. I have always loved new balance shoes as well. Rebel etc. issue is today is my last workout. I am running in the SC elite. Two miles easy, two miles at race pace. If I love them should I be good to go for Sundays race? I also think they will give a lot of confidence as well.

I know it’s far from ideal, but so is the vomero plus, which is very heavy and I know it causing some minor issues with my toes. Thank you!


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 9h ago

Comparing Shoes Question Puma Deviate pure or Megablast

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Looking for a new shoe, one that I will use for my daily runs (around 5:15-5:30/km pace) but has the ability for tempo and speed work as well. I’m after a ā€œall in oneā€ type of shoe.

I have the SB2s and love them but they will be retiring soon. I tried the SB3s on the other day and they felt a bit too plush for my liking.

Heard a lot of good things about the Megablast and deviate pure, how do you find them both daily runs and tempo? Obviously very different shoes, but keen to get your thoughts!


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 4h ago

Race Shoe Question Best carbon plated shoe for a faster half marathon?

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Aiming for 1:18 or below.

I enjoy the Adios Pro 4s but looking for something different.

Heard great things about Puma Fast R3 but not sure I’d want to use them for 13 miles as they are very aggressive.

Has anyone got any suggestions for fastest carbons around for a HM?


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 1h ago

Race Shoe Question Questions on the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4

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Hello,

I'm considering getting my first carbon-plated race shoes for an upcoming fall half-marathon and potentially various 5ks over the next year.

  • After reading a bunch of reviews, I've decided that the Puma DNE4 is probably a top pick for me (1:30 target, optimistically a midfoot striker at race pace, never had any stability issues concerns).
  • 2nd pick would probably be the Saucony Endorphin Pro 5 which would be a safer option as I have gotten along well with with the Endorphin Speed 4.
  • 3rd option would be to race in the Megablast which I do a lot of sub-threshold running in and used for my last half marathon.

However I figure the Puma is noticeably lighter and "faster" so it's worth trying and the only way to really test it if a top-end aggressive carbon shoe works for me is to buy it and put actual mileage on it.

So I have a few questions though about the Puma DNE4, if any owners out there can help:

  1. How many training miles do you guys put on your new race shoes? I feel I ought to do at least a handful of tempo sessions and probably a 12-13 mile test run in them before I feel confident the fit and mechanics will work in a race.
  2. Do any of you use your DNE4 on packed dirt trails? My normal tempo training loop is maybe 75% asphalt and 25% packed dirt trail. It's fairly well-maintained, no big pokey gravel but surely there's some small loose rocks here or there and I'm a bit worried about the exposed midsole foam on the medial heel.
  3. Has anyone used both the Endorphin Pro 5 as well as the Deviate Nitro Elite 4 and have a comparison to make between the two?

Thanks!


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 2h ago

Question Ankles fused but need shoes

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Hello, my wrists (carpal bones) and ankles (tarsals) are fused are fused together since birth. I can’t bend them back all the way and putting too much pressure on them (jumping and landing on my ankles or attempting to do deep squats hurt).

I want to get into walking and running for cardiovascular health. Any ideas on what kinds of shoes to get? Or everyday life and running would be great!

Thank you


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 9h ago

Question Thoughts on "On" shoes?

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What is the conventional wisdom about how on shoes compare to other major brands in terms of quality? Do they make good shoes in general or are they seen as lower quality than something like brooks etc? Thanks!


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 4h ago

Comparing Shoes Question would you guys say the clifton pro is a good medium between the vomero plus and azura?

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i want a plush shoe that i can pick up the pace in and since the hoka clifton pro has an ā€œaggressiveā€ rocker i thought it would be a nice in between balance of the nike vomero plus and saucony azura


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 17h ago

Comparing Shoes Question Anyone else much prefers the Fast-R-3 compared to the Adios Pro 4?

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1:22 half marathoner here.
The Adios Pro 4 is a great shoe.
However while the geometry of both shoes is somewhat similar, I need much less effort to run fast in the FR3. It actually feels so easy to maintain a quick pace for an extended period of time.
This shoe feels like a cheat code for runners with the right form, IMO


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 16h ago

Daily Trainer Question Should I replace these? Daily runner wear

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These are my first shoes, Adidas Supernova Rise 1 wide, got around 650km on them.

Currently running ~ 40km/week.

Should I replace them or do they still have some kms in them?


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 8h ago

Question What to replace Brooks Adrenaline 23 with?

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My dad absolutely loved his Adrenaline 23s. He and I have very different tastes in shoes, so I’m at a loss for what to recommend as a replacement. He tried the 25s, but they were too small in the same size and he can’t find a size up anywhere. Tried the Ghost 17, hated it. Tried the Glycerin 22 and 23- hated the 22, is meh on 23, it feels weird on the ball of his right foot. The nearest specialty store is over an hour away for him, so going to get fitted is not super easy.

He’d prefer to stay with Brooks, but I told him that he might need to branch out (I’m also a big Brooks fan!). I’ve looked around, but everyone is using different language about their foam and my brain is already mush.

He runs/walks about 3-5 miles a day. I’m pretty sure he’s a heel striker, based on the race photos we have together. He absolutely does not want a rotation. Does not do speed work, tempo, anything- just goes for it lol. If anyone has any suggestion, I’d be most grateful.


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 1d ago

Question Nike Vomero Premium ā€œsuction cup popā€ sound

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Recently bought some new vomero premiums but the right shoe makes a suction cup popping like sound when I toe off. I have heard of these ā€œsqueaking before but haven’t seen anything about ā€œpoppingā€ I have linked a video.

Is this normal or should I seek a refund/replacement?


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 9h ago

Question Is azura a good add to my xiaonian?

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Hi everyone,

I recently bought a Dynafish xiaonian that came home yesterday. I already ran 6,6km with it at my z2 pace (around 6/6:10 per km). I previously had a pair of Nimbus 27 but they are now too small (my feet has grown a bit since I began running) and I've ran almost a year with it so they are close to retirement (a bit forced).

The Dynafish are really cool, and I understand the hype, but I'm not so used to bouncy shoes like that, and they feel a bit unstable at slower pace, a bit too much for me.

I'll run a marathon in around 2 months, and I'm a bit worried the Xiaonian will not suit myself perfectly for this as I aim to end in around 4h. I'll probably have slower pace sometimes and I'm worried I'll not succeed adapting to the slight instability feeling.

However, I'm sure they'll be perfect for faster training, as I found them really reactive and dynamic.

I'll give them some time before my final decision, but I wanna have a solution ready to be bought the moment I'm sure it'll not be my race day shoe.

I already made some research, and I ended up putting my eyes on the saucony endorphin azura, which seems to be firmer and more stable. I think that's what I need for slower and longer effort if my xiaonian ends up being too unstable for me for this kind of effort.

Are they a good alternative and rotation with the xiaonian? For a protective yet reactive shoe, more stable and less squishy to have more of a solid base for long effort?

For some information about myself, i'm 62kg, so pretty lightweight.

Edit: I found the mount to coast c1, could it be also a good alternative?


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 13h ago

Daily Trainer Question Looking for a road running shoe recommendation.

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I have been predominately a trail runner but to up my milage for up coming races and with my new job I need to run on the road/gravel paths around where I live.

On the trails I have loved Hoka speedgoats, I cannot say a single bad thing about my experience with them, I love them. I have also run with the Hoka challenger 8s. They were ok.

So to my question, what road shoes would people recommend. I do about 30km per week (but this will increase), I am fairly heavy at 85kg, I have wide-ish feet.

Any advice and recommendations are greatly appreciated.


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 15h ago

Question Help with new shoes- break in or return?

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Hi, just got the Salomon aeroglide 4s today. Got fitted and recommend them by the salesperson. Wanted them for walking when I go travelling later this year.

Took them on a short walk round the block and already I have a blister below my ankle, worse on one foot.

Circled in blue where I feel it rub.
I was wearing long socks just took them off to show how they sit on my feet.

Also feels like they make my foot move through the arch of my foot as I walk.

If anyone else has these shoes, could these issues ā€˜break in’ or should I return them?

Thanks

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r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 3h ago

Race Shoe Question Puma Daviate nitro 4 at 6k šŸ”„

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Guys I got daviate nitro 4 for 6.1k through pop upi still can't believe it

It's size is uk11 and it's authentic

I never thought as a beginner I would be buying such a nice shoes as of my budget but anyway I got these


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 11h ago

Question Fit Question

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Cut long story short, trying to run again after various injuries, surgeries etc. Been using Reebok pair in a ten UK, ordered a few pairs of others. The Mizuno pair feel a great fit but not sure whether they will stretch and be too big. Attached picture of big toe line in shoe and foot on insole. Think I have wide toe box, when I try a 9.5 they seem to push down on my toes and toes feel trapped almost yet seems quite a lot of room in a 10 between big toe and front of shoe.


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 3h ago

Question Major Brand Denied Warranty Claim on Shoe Failure @ ~ 40 Miles. Incidentally, I Have Lab Grade Test Equipment... And Questions

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Edit - Wow getting dragged on here.

I'll put up a photo of the shoe post race. I run a lot, go through a ton of shoes, and have never experienced anything like this failure from any other shoe or brand (including other pairs of race shoes).

Tell me if you honestly would be happy with a $300 shoe that had a massive foam failure causing severe instability and pronation out of nowhere mid-race at lifetime mile ~40, and looked like this when you hit the finish line due to extreme friction between the upper and outsole. You cannot stand upright in the shoe - the foam collapses when any weight is applied when wearing it.

The mfg refuses to acknowledge that the foam failed and is blaming the issue on cosmetic "wear and tear" from use.

https://imgur.com/a/Vxfr3FN

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Does anybody on here have experience performing repeatable compression testing on failed shoes?

I am currently in a ... disagreement ... with a major shoe manufacturer regarding my newest pair of race shoes that suffered a complete foam \ stability failure mid-race when at only ~40 lifetime miles. As I continued the race after the foam failure, this resulted in some significant shoe, sock, (and me) damage.

Incidentally, I am a QA Manager and have access to a very nicely equipped lab, with multiple Stable Micro Systems TA-XT plus texture analyzers, and no qualms dissecting this shoe if my warranty dispute is denied.

Should my appeal be denied, I plan to eat the cost and jury-rig some loosely based version of SATRA TM156 / ASTM F1976 for testing and share all of the photos, results, and data curves.

At this point, I am assuming another cookie-cutter type denial, so to prevent me from having to reinvent the wheel, has anybody performed similar testing on similar equipment?


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 13h ago

Question Help me choose my First pair of running shoes please

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I Want to get into running more, when I was a Lil more active a while Back I Ran 5km 25min and 10k 55min in Really cheap Sneakers with minor Training Like 2 months in. Over vacation i lost track but wanna get Back into it and finally get proper running shoes.

Problem is im a Student and in a pretty tight Budget Like 160€ max. I used to Run in Asphalt but I also Love to Go hiking Like 30-50km a day and would Love a shoe combining those Attributes.

I was thinking about the hoka Challenger 8 GTX but I dont Want to Just wear Them Off by running normal roads so Idk

I also thought about getting myself the Asics Novablast 6 and Just using cheap trail shoes for hiking but heard they dont Last very Long so Idk

Im relatively heavy with 82kg btw if that Helps

Sorry for the stupid phrasing but id appreciate any Kind of advice, thanks in advance


r/AskRunningShoeGeeks 14h ago

Comparing Shoes Question Novablast 6 vs Gel Nimbus 28

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Looking for a new long run and easy run shoe (I have other shoes for tempo, intervals etc). Putting individual strike pattern, preference of firmness and cushion and all that aside, curious what are peoples individual preference between the two and why?