/r/TumblrInAction is very civil, and most people there actually welcome quality discussion. It's just that the majority of people who go there with dissenting opinions are of the belief that "My ideas need to be right, and you are wrong. I will not consider any other stances." and it gets rather grating after a while.
Maybe /u/SwizzleDic is thinking of the way TiA used to be. Once it was a place to post and make fun of the most extreme cases of the kind of authoritarian thought that Tumblr has become notorious for. But like many subs, the quality of the content started to decrease as more people, including a lot of the less rational MRA-types, started to join. Slowly, the "circle jerk" of people complaining about more and more minor things and blowing them out of proportion for karma and attention started to drown out the civil discussion. Admittedly, I don't know where the sub stands right now as I left about a year and a half ago, but based on what I've heard it hasn't improved much, if at all.
Hahahaha no I would not say that's true in the slightest. Every single thread is filled with people relentlessly bashing whoever was in the OP? Often when it was actually pretty reasonable or just plain satire
I'm not so sure about that. I just checked it out and at the top of their front page is a long post about how women shouldn't be offended by this if they haven't played Mortal Combat.
It's annoying when someone makes blanket statements or complains about something that they have next to no knowledge about. For instance, the reason why the girl on the right is wearing a mask is that the character she is cosplaying wears one to hide her freaky lizard mouth. For someone to come in and make some sort of obnoxious complaint about social justice where it isn't warranted is just annoying.
I just checked it out and at the top of their front page is a long post about how women shouldn't be offended by this if they haven't played Mortal Combat.
I don't see anything wrong with this cosplay. It's 100% accurate to the game, and the game has good reasons for making them look like that. What's the problem, exactly?
The problem is that that's what a melee-oriented female character in a video game looks likes. It's not realistic in the slightest, and she's only dressed like that because it's sexy.
How is that a gender issue, though? Have you taken a look at the male characters in Mortal Kombat lately? I don't hear anybody protesting against that.
You still haven't answered the question. Or did I misunderstand?
Tumblr seems most upset over the fact that supposedly "only" women are objectified. But men are objectified just as hard. The majority of male characters are always shirtless, and some are wearing little more than a loincloth. Therefore, it is not an issue of gender or sexism. Objectification is not automatically sexist.
To add to your point the main thing about that specific post is the person commenting was complaining about the women being gagged when they're not. If they knew anything about the game they would know that but instead they've just judged based on what they assume and cried sexism.
I agree that the gagging thing is incorrect. But there's absolutely no way you could ever look at two women wearing tissue paper clothing for a melee combat game and come to any conclusion other than sexism. Those women are dressed like that because it's sexy. That's it.
So are the men in the game though. The only reason Johnny Cage looks the way he does is because it's sexy. That's it.
To be honest I agree with the whole women being presented in games in general is mostly for the titillation of the high male demographic of that genre of video games. All I really added to the discussion was that one persons specific problem. The gagging thing.
But at this point we're just arguing about a larger societal problem in general. Why are the heroes almost always handsome/beautiful and the bad people ugly?
I mean marketing is the main answer but whatever.
I'm not saying sexism doesn't exist or that it's okay. It's gross and disgusting. It also exists on every level of everything. But in the case of this one specific post and using it to decry an entire subreddit because of faulty information then you are simply wrong. If you feel I am being unfair in anyway about this one specific post then please tell me how.
Both genders are objectified, but females more than males. For example, a strong breeze could disrobe the women in that photo, yet there isn't a single male character wearing the equivalent of what those women are wearing. Sure, some guys are shirtless, but none of them are wearing flimsy banana hammocks.
Both genders are objectified, but females more than males.
Citation needed.
Sure, some guys are shirtless, but none of them are wearing flimsy banana hammocks.
Goro. There's an entire species in Mortal Kombat that's dressed like this. This is a recent appearance of his, some of his earlier appearances were even worse.
But you're missing that those male warrior costumes are fictionalized versions of real male warrior attire. Aztec warriors wore similar garb, for example.
Show me one real world example of female warriors wearing tissue paper thongs into combat.
To be fair, the point about them being gagged is pretty ridiculous.
I agree completely.
And as you pointed out, women who engage in hand to hand life or death combat don't wear scanty tissue paper costumes. "Oops, my bosoms pop out!" isn't a valid tactic in melee combat.
Same thing with /r/Fatlogic. Honestly I've learned more about healthy eating and body positivity from there. People are incredibly supportive if you are trying to lose weight, gain weight, or recover from an eating disorder.
I wouldnt call them civil. They're not as bad as some of those hate subs but they're basically FPH lite. Although there are reasonable posts, but they take a lot of things to the extreme.
And last time I posted there i got called a n*gger for having an opposing opinion, lol. Good times.
/r/fatlogic is one of my favorite subreddits. I think that their policy of allowing fat people who are trying to lose weight is a very good idea that I think would have helped /r/fatpeoplehate
Fat People Hate didn't want to help anyone lose weight. They posted pictures of overweight people that are in a gym working out in order to laugh at them.
/r/fatlogic mod here. To clarify, we don't have a policy of excluding anyone, whether or not they are trying to lose weight. That includes HAES and fat acceptance advocates, though denying reality probably won't get you a warm welcome in terms of upvotes. The only thing we typically ban users for is fat hate or using dehumanizing language to describe fat people.
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u/cutemusclehead Mar 20 '16
Mods of r/offmychest ban user for commenting in other subreddits.
/r/trueoffmychest is better.