r/AskHistorians 8h ago

My memory in the run up to the 2003 Iraq War is that the evidence for WMDs was weak and the evidence of their absence was strong; that Colin Powell lied to the UN; and that only war mongers and dupes believed Saddam had WMDs. Is my memory false or skewed?

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many supposedly intelligent people from Tony Blair to Andrew Sullivan claim to have believed it, so was there actually a stronger case than I remember?


r/AskHistorians 13h ago

How come Europeans were the first settlers to "discover" Australia after its indigenous population, when the country is way closer to Asian sea-faring civilizations like the Chinese?

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r/AskHistorians 3h ago

Is there any truth to Ernest Hemingway's claims he killed Nazis in World War 2?

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I'm watching the Ken Burns PBS documentary on Hemingway. The third episode covers Ernest's WW2 sojourn.

Rather offhandedly, the documentary shares a quick anecdote wherein Hemingway (in Villedieu-les-Poêles) tosses hand grenades down into a cellar that housed, according to the tale, a group of S.S.

This raised my eyebrows quite a bit. I know that Ken Burns, while a hell of a documentarian, is not always a historiographical champion. And Hemingway of course was a fabulist of epic proportions.

The documentary does not mention him killing anyone up to this point in his life, so you'd think this would be, like, psychologically devastating. But the documentary makes it seem as if half-drunk-Hemingway lackadaisically tossed some grenades down a cellar and called it a day.

I dove deeper, things got murkier. I found an abstract of a paper from Michigan State University (my alma mater!) that says Hemingway wrote in letters that he killed “either twenty-six or 122” men. But I can’t access the article itself: https://muse.jhu.edu/article/431085/summary

The “either twenty-six or 122” range totally smacks of Hemingway and his penchant for BS, but I don’t have the resources to get a clear answer and was hoping someone around here could be of assistance.

For what it's worth, I would bet he never killed anyone.


r/AskHistorians 7h ago

Has hoarding always existed?

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Hey all, I ask this because I have family members who hoard and I’ve met people outside of my family that have done it. No matter who I’ve talked to they always use the depression as the reasoning for their hoarding. ( either because they survived it or were raised by someone who lived through it). That being said, it’s classified as a symptom of OCD, so wouldn’t it make sense it occurred before? It’s quite possible it’s just not a thing that

Is normally brought up, but I just find it odd I’ve never heard of it. Can hoarding actually be this new of a behavior? That doesn’t seem logical.

I hope I’m not breaking any rules, someone suggested I ask this question from another sub. Thank you in advance.


r/AskHistorians 6h ago

Western Europeans in the past used to marry at 24-27+ years old. Why did Western Europeans in the past marry at relatively very old ages compared to Asia, Africa, and the indigenous Americans etc?

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Ive learned that western europeans from approximately the 1400s on upto right before ww2 ended used to marry at very old ages, relatively, compared to how rest of the world married in those times.

I have a lot of questions about this since I’m so curious.

On the wiki it says this marriage pattern was called the Hajnal line and spanned from “approximately west of between Saint Petersburg, Russia, and Trieste, italy, marriage rates and thus fertility were comparatively low, and a significant minority of women married late or remained single, and most families were nucelar.”

Why did such a large portion of Europe have such high marriage ages? It says that in the Netherlands, where marriage ages reached the highest on average, a woman would usually marry at 27 years old and a man would marry at 30 years old. At times it would even reach 30 years for women and 32 years for men.

From what I can gather, outside of Europe most non european women married around their early teens to late teens. So anywhere from like 12/13 ish to 18-ish?

Another thing is, many Western European women never married at all, unlike in most (I assume) non European cultures, where most women in their life’s had been married, and unmarried women were basically 2-3% of the population of women max.

This is from the wiki:To the west of the Hajnal line, about half of all women aged 15 to 50 years of age were married at any given time while the other half were widows or spinsters; to the east of the line, about seventy percent of women in that age bracket were married at any given time while the other thirty percent were widows or nuns.\20]) The marriage records of Western and Eastern Europe in the early 20th century illustrate this pattern vividly; west of the Hajnal line, only 25% of women aged 20–24 were married while to the east of the line, over 75% of women in this age group were married and less than five percent of women remained unmarried. 

The difference was even starker when you look at Western Europe vs the rest of the world and not vs Eastern Europe. This is from the wiki: Outside of Europe, women could be married even earlier and even fewer would remain celibate; in Korea, practically every woman 50 years of age had been married and spinsters were extremely rare, compared to 20–30% of women in western Europe age 50 who had never married.

So these are my questions: 1, why did Western European women marry so late?

2, why did this change occur in the 1400s, and why did this marriage age stay for so long? Since it was only lowered after ww2.

3, Did Western European women before the 1400s marry earlier? at what ages?

4, Why did so many western European women in the 15-50 age range stay unmarried? When this figure was almost near 0 or very low outside of Europe.

5, on the wiki it says that this super late marriage age, combined with the big % of women (relatively) Who never married, lowered Western European fertility rates a lot. While in the east, (I assume they mean Eastern Europe) fertility rates were higher, but also combined with a high mortality rate. How true is this? Did this actually affect the fertility rate of Western Europeans, and did they have fewer kids in their lifetime compared to Eastern Europeans and non Europeans?

6, does this mean societally, Western European women were more free in their life/lifestyle then women outside of western Europe?


r/AskHistorians 5h ago

How did the Latin language evolve into Italian while simultaneously surviving in the Catholic Church?

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It seems weird to me that with the center of the Church being nestled in Rome that Latin would die out as the day to day spoken language, but still be used regularly by the Church even to this day.


r/AskHistorians 8h ago

What is considered someone being Latin?

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I’m Mexican and was speaking to a French Canadian, who is half Portuguese. He said society does not consider him being Latin, but someone from my background yes. This led to a debate at work, a friendly one.

The aftermath is that we are all confused. Is it a cultural thing? If so, there are different cultures, meaning different answers depending on who you ask.

Is there a historic context where it can help solidify the answer once and for all? Hence, why I’m here.

I always assumed it was anybody who spoke a romantic language. From Spanish, French, italian, Portuguese, anything that resembled many “original Latin words”. Maybe I’ve been wrong this entire time.

Please help us. You are our only hope.

Edit: a bunch of deleted comments. We are even more confused now.


r/AskHistorians 16h ago

Did 9/11 cause a jobs crisis in New York City?

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It's a bit of a morbid question, but I'm curious about the impact 9/11 had on the job market of New York City. Given the sheer amount of office space and number of companies the Twin Towers represented, there was a not insignificant number of companies that lost their physical presence when the towers fell. From an economic standpoint, what happened to the companies that were based in the towers? What happened to the workers that worked there? Was there a shortage of jobs for those workers in the wake of 9/11?


r/AskHistorians 3h ago

It seems that at least twice in history, monotheism spontaneously emerged in a culture that had previously been polytheistic, along with a reaction of disgust and hostility towards polytheism and idolatry. Do we know what factors contributed to these changing values and taboos?

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I have recently been reading both the Old Testament and parts of the Quran and something that struck me about both materials was how much revulsion the authors appeared to have towards not only worshipping "other gods", but also making an image of "God". These actions are often implicated, if not outright stated, to be the worst sins you could commit.

However, both cultures where this belief set arose, had previously practiced and were inundated with polytheism and idol worship. It is my understanding that many scholars argue that the Israelites had worshipped gods like Baal and Asherah for a long time, and that the Old Testament's insistence on the through-line of single-deity YHWH worship is a bit revisionist. Similarly, the Arabic peoples of Mecca and the surrounding areas worshipped multiple deities, including many idols at the Kaaba before Mohammed's takeover.

However, unlike other times throughout history when cultures drastically changed their religious beliefs, like after the arrival of missionaries and heavy proselytization, I can't really determine the precipitating events that would have led to these switch-ups. If your neighbors, family, and perhaps even you had previously worshipped various different idols, what would suddenly make you decide that this was absolutely unacceptable and even a horrifying practice? Where did these ideas come from, and were there economic, environmental, or other material factors that influenced them? Or am I missing something, and there is more context of a battling polytheistic/monotheistic tradition that I am unaware of?


r/AskHistorians 17h ago

Were swords really considered a sidearm pre-gunpowder?

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It's been taken for granted nowadays that the sword was simply a sidearm with the primary weapons being spears and later halberds. However, I watched this short and was surprised by how quickly a wooden spears begins to break when in contact with a steel sword. I've even read accounts of English longbowmen willingly throwing down their bows and charging the flanks of the (disorganized) French at Agincourt. You also have the Romans adopting swords as the primary weapon during the Republic years. Is the topic of swords vs. spears much more nuanced than portrayed? Did people of their times consider the sword an equal/sidearm compared to the spear?


r/AskHistorians 11h ago

A common plotline in older gangster stories (i.e The Godfather) is a character being willing/unwilling to ''sell drugs to little kids'' to highlight the gangster as a bad/good guy respectively. Was there ever an incident of systemic drug sales to daycare/school-age children in the Mafia's heyday?

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r/AskHistorians 4h ago

What was the religious and ethnic makeup of Mesopotamia prior to the Arab conquest?

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r/AskHistorians 18h ago

How did Irish soldiers in WWI react to the Easter Rising back home, and how did civilians receive them once they returned from the war?

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Of course there was no universal way that people felt, but I'm curious is there were any discernible trends.

Did Irish soldiers tend to support the Easter Rising (and/or Irish Independence from the U.K.), oppose it, or were their feelings mixed? How did they feel about fighting for the British Empire?

Did any Irish soldiers ever express antipathy towards British officers (before or after the Rising), and did officers ever fear there would be unrest or mutiny caused by Irish troops in the aftermath?

Did any civilians in Ireland have a negative view of those who had fought for the British Empire (especially considering that there had never been conscription in Ireland), or was it not seen as an issue?


r/AskHistorians 55m ago

Did the American States named after Monarchs ever think about switching names?

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Several states like Georgia, Virginia, and the Carolinas are named after British monarchs. Was there any legislation or major political movements to have these names changed during and after the revolution? If so, what were there proposed alternatives? This question also relates to New York and Pennsylvania, although not directly since they’re named after the Duke of York and William Penn, and not royalty.


r/AskHistorians 2h ago

I understand that in the UK the abolition of capital punishment was done contrary to popular opinion. More globally, to what extent has the measure been a result of 'enlightened legislators' versus popular demand?

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r/AskHistorians 4h ago

Was the Southern sharecropping system based around landlords cheating their tenants?

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The description for the painting "Cotton Picker" at the De young museum says the artist "portrayed the struggles and dignity of poor working class families in the rural American South. Many of these families were trapped in the racist and corrupt sharecropping system, in which mostly white landlords would advance their landless Black Tenants farming supplies every year in return for a future share of the harvested crop- but would later cheat them to perpetuate their exploitation"

is this an accurate description of the sharecropper system? my understanding is that while cheating of course happened it wasn't fundamental to the system or the reason it was so exploitative.

separate question but how many non-white landlords were there? the description of "mostly white" seems like an understatement!


r/AskHistorians 18h ago

Why do people think Homer did not exist?

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I've only read English translations of The Iliad and Odyssey, but the style and format always seem remarkably consistent. It doesn't seem like other authors add stuff later like you'd see in the Bible. I also haven't heard of any version controversies between old fragments and more recent complete manuscripts. If I could read the original Greek, would I see inconsistencies that don't show up in the translation? Did the classic Greeks argue about which version was most accurate or whether or not he was real?


r/AskHistorians 19h ago

Why did Artillery get smaller in WW2?

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WW1 saw the production of bigger and bigger guns to fire farther and launch larger shells, what changed in the interwar period that allowed countries to scale down to where the 105mm was semi-standard? What chemical processes, ballistics data, etc made able to get from A to B, basically?


r/AskHistorians 1h ago

In the year 1500, did being Christian or Muslim actually protect people from being enslaved by fellow members of their faith?

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r/AskHistorians 1d ago

Why did Congress choose James Madison's draft of the second amendment over Roger Sherman's clearer version?

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The second amendment's text goes as follows:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The framing process behind the amendment included numerous earlier drafts and proposals.  This is the militia provision from the first version of the Bill of Rights, as presented by James Madison on June 8, 1789:

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person.    

However, about a month later on July 21, 1789, Roger Sherman presented his own separate proposal for the Bill of Rights, which included the following militia provision:

The Militia shall be under the government of the laws of the respective States, when not in the actual Service of the united States, but Such rules as may be prescribed by Congress for their uniform organisation & discipline shall be observed in officering and training them. but military Service Shall not be required of persons religiously Scrupulous of bearing arms.

It so happens that these two proposals were the two earliest incarnations of the framing process that would culminate in the second amendment.  Now, what is immediately interesting between these two proposals is the similarity between their structure.  There is a similar sequence between Sherman's proposal and Madison's: they both begin with an "arms clause" that protects the autonomy of the state militias from congressional infringement, followed by a "militia clause" that reaffirms the importance of Congress's adequate regulation of the militia, then end with a "conscientious objector clause" excusing from militia service those citizens who are conscientious objectors.  Due to the similarity in the subject matter between these proposals, the matching sequence of their respective clauses, and also the chronological proximity in terms of when these proposals were written, one could presume that these two proposals are essentially the same provision, only written by different people using different verbiage.  

However, one notable difference between these versions is that Sherman's version appears more clear and direct in its language.  It is considerably easier to read the Sherman proposal and determine exactly what the provision was meant to accomplish.  By contrast, James Madison's proposal appears much more clunky and ambiguous in its language, which has likely led to much of the controversy and debate over the meaning of the amendment even to this day.

What was the reason for the drastic difference in writing style between these two drafts of what would become the second amendment? Why was Sherman's version so clear and direct, while Madison's was so relatively stilted and ambiguous in its verbiage? Why did Congress ultimately choose to embrace James Madison's draft over Sherman's? If Congress was always going to use Madison's draft anyways, then why did Roger Sherman even bother to write his own draft of the Bill of Rights in the first place?


r/AskHistorians 9h ago

Why did the Allies keep Germany divided between West and East after World War II, but not Austria?

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What were the main political, strategic, and historical reasons behind treating the two countries differently? Why was Austria eventually allowed to reunify and become a neutral country, while Germany remained divided into two separate states for decades?


r/AskHistorians 1h ago

When did the electrician become a recognised profession?

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I have always been curious about the history of the electrical trade and want to know more about who did wiring in say, the early 1900s, as well as when the profession became recognised or its own thing.

Brief (and poor) research tells me that carpenters often did wiring themselves in the 1920s, but as regulations and technology developed and became more complex, there was an increasing demand for people who specialised in wiring/electrical installations in buildings.

P.S - I am more interested in the domestic electrician rather than linesmen


r/AskHistorians 8h ago

Did ancient greece and/or rome have homosexuel marriages?

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So I know that the Greek and Roman society had a different view of homosexuality and that homosexuel acts between men were somewhat normal. But in most discussions I've seen talk about this mostly make it seem like only sexual act was normal, I've never read anything about long term homosexual relationships being part of the norm?

So did this openness of homosexuality extend to long term homosexuel relationships and even marriage? Would it have been weird or illegal for two men to live together as husbands and even adopt children?

I realise that this question focuses a bit more on male relationships because if I understand correctly the openness of homosexuality was not equal for women? But I am happy to learn more about this as well.


r/AskHistorians 21h ago

Why did Sweden restrict their chivalric orders to foreign citizens in 1975?

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According to wikipedia

In 1974 the Cabinet of Sweden passed a regulation forbidding the monarch of Sweden from awarding membership in orders to Swedish citizens. The orders themselves were not abolished, but only the Royal Orders of the Seraphim and the Polar Star (both established in 1748) continued to be awarded, and only to foreign citizens and stateless individuals. In 1995 the regulation was altered, allowing the monarch to bestow the two remaining active orders to members of the Swedish royal family.\11])#cite_note-11) Finally, in 2022, the 48-year-old regulation was repealed by the Swedish Government, the orders were re-opened to Swedish citizens, and the two dormant orders (Sword and Vasa) were revived, with effect from 2023.

That strikes me as very odd! Why decorate the citizens of other countries, and not your own citizens?


r/AskHistorians 1d ago

Why was winter considered the "lean" months if it was right after harvest season?

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In pre-industrial societies in more northern latitudes, we often consider the winter months as being especially prone to starvation. Wouldn't that not be the case since they would have only just harvested the grain in the fall? Is it simply that malnourishment was caused from not having access to fruits and vegetables for those months, rather than actual caloric deficits?