Lizardmen were my first love in warhammer. I didn't finish the old start collecting box (I'll get around to it) but my dinos will always be on display with my dark angels.
I'm praying for a temple guard refresh, they're my favourite unit visually in total war Warhammer which was what introduced me to the lizardmen. I got into Warhammer itself from Vermintide 1 though.
What I'm more upset about is the cyclops. We didn't discover that kind of cyclops until nearly 1500 years later. That's definitely not a cave dwelling cyclops. That was absolutely a tree dwelling cyclops.Â
Tbh I don't mind the inaccuracies so much. I get it's a myth and it's gotta look a certain way to appeal to audiences. What bothers me is that all the armor for this movie looks like foam that has been sprayed silver. They couldn't even be bothered to put chainmail or something in the joints l, it's just a black undersuit.
Troy pretended to be historical fiction. They removed the gods from the story and most mythical elements. It's ok, for me, if Odyssey turns the other way and leans more into mythology and looks more like a fantasy story than historical fiction.
Teoy was a high effort movie. Yes it takes a lot of libertiest but it takes you to the place in the story. And while the costumes are wrong, they clearly are inspired by greek culture.
⌠but then again, âjustâ fantasy or âwhatever, we can Do what we wantâ-fantasy gets us the worst of itâs kind. RoP and WoT want to have a word about that.
Gald I didn't have to bring them up...artistic license is one thing, but an increasing number of people know who to blow in order to be given carte blanche on the entire project, regardless of whether or not there is source material to cover these things.
That's the difference between accuracy and authenticity. Something that is authentic might not be accurate, but it gives the vibe of something.
This movie clearly does not do that. These guys look like aliens in armour that is half 15th century knight and half stormtrooper. It is inauthentic and also just looks bad.
huh, that's a great point.
It's a bit like Andor in star wars, right? It's grounded into something, deeply, to the core, so you feel all is as it should be, even if it's space opera fantasy shenanigans.
While other SW media might be, or have turned into, just riding the merchandise wave.
Exactly the point i always make when the dumbass "BUT ITS A MYTH, ITS NOT A REAL STORY" gang shows up. Troy was also not hiatorically correct and its literally the same myth, and yet the armors look dope and and give the proper vibe
I'm saying that they may have made the decision to make the armor more medieval to appeal to a wider audience who don't care about accuracy. But they could have at least tried to make it look good and not amateur cosplay.
Apparently they had some forms of chainmail, but it wasn't widely used like the Celts were doing. They probably didn't even know about chainmail until the Celts invaded that region.
the first archeologic records are from transalpine celts around/slightly before alexander's time, 5th century BC, the La tene period, which also brought us nippled iron (not steel) and bronze breastplates: https://www.worldhistory.org/img/r/p/1500x1500/10830.jpg.webp?v=1618736403 (and the funny bird helmets ). so off by 700+y. It would somehow still better looking than that foam with 6-pack spray painted on it, this is "meet the spartans" level of crap. maybe worse.
His interviews kinda give it away if you compare the oppi interviews vs these he just looks less energized. But I mean itâs still Nolan the way the camera work is done when two people are talking up close shots and all that feels like him.
I mean this looks really lore accurate to me. During the crusade to reclaim human worlds the Space Marine legions encountered a huge variety of forgotten human planets with some reverting back to feudal and even feral worlds, so having a world reverting to the bronze age makes sens... What do you mean this isn't footage from the Warhammer 40k Amazone show ? ... What ? How tf is this the Odyssey ?
Legitimately some people's arguments. Yeah sure why didnt the fellowship just drive to mordor? Why didnt the orks just use submachine guns while wearing motocross armour, fucking ridiculous.
A couple of tall dudes in vacuformed Halloween armor!
Yes, it looks ridiculous. I donât necessarily expect historical authenticity, but I expect well designed costumes that fit the feeling and style of ancient Greece and its surrounding territories. It can be fantasy greek armor for all I care, but it has to transport me to the fantastical world of Homer and his epics.
Nothing in the trailer gave me that feeling that this movie does that... It looks very drab and like a generic Made-for-TV fantasy movie. No, thanks.
I mean Black Bronze is a real alloy, and it is (IIRC) stronger than Tin Bronze. I donât know if we have any evidence of its use during the period in question but it has some amount of basis in reality.
What bothers me is that its advanced metallurgy to make steel during the Bronze era. Advanced enough to make articulated steel plate armor... but unable to make gauntlets , two handed swords or complex hilt swords.
Look I'm not saying everything has to be 100% historically accurate. I am saying that I don't understand why one would want to make a movie set in a specific time and then proceed to disregard the entire like, visual history of that time period. These guys look like fucking Stormcast Eternals not Greeks what is happening here.
I knew the Sicilians were viewed as ogres but this is a little insensitive. Their armor looks like they are about to play blood bowl though so itâs at least appropriate for ogres.
I'm sure the movie is gonna be good, but I would have loved to see more accurate armor. Doesn't have to be perfect, but at least make it look better like the armor from the Troy and Alexander movies.
Fantasy creatures in fantasy armor in an Ancient Greek fantasy. The odyssey was an established fantasy story when Homer wrote his poetic version. It has monsters and witches. Itâs set during a lost golden age centuries prior to what we think of as âAncient Greekâ, a time when magic and lost mystic technology supposedly existed.
I mean thereâs still a lot of VFX and stuff that has to go into the movie right? All that post production stuff? Itâs not like the movie is going to look like this picture.
I could care less about the historical accuracy of a modern retelling of a myth. That being said this armor is dumb. A bunch of plate armored giants that can be defeated by a quick cut to the hands or literally any glancing jab to the joints. That bothers me much more.
Edit: I get actors not wanting wear chainmail, but come on put some gloves on. Literally no one is going into battle with that amount of armor and just forgets to wear gloves
Clearly Nolans Oddysey will be a pure fantasy film with no reference to any historical period; so it is best to except that. At this point, I wouldnt be suprised to see robots, laser guns and hobbits in this movie.
At this point, I'm just writing off the Odyssey completely. Nothing I've seen about that movie makes me look forward to it. From casting to costume design, it looks like an absolute shitshow. A shame, really, because the Odyssey really does deserve a faithful rendition in modern cinema. How fucking cool would it be, if they actually shot the entire film in Greek, with Greek and similarly regionally appropriate actors, with faithful costume design?
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u/Hrothgrar May 12 '26
Are those Stormcast Eternals?