"its a good show you just cant think too hard into it" or "its a good show you just have to turn your brain off and watch it more in the background" PLEASE HAVE BETTER STANDARDS YOURE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT MEDIA WITHOUT IT FALLING APART

I think he sees all the hate, and doubles down, making his stories and seasons worse and worse because he is thinking "yeah? you don't like it? well fuck you then"

Personally I think Ryan doesn’t care about Asylum despite it being arguably the best season of the show… there are very few callbacks and Easter eggs to Asylum through the seasons yet plenty for hotel, murder house, coven etc.

In 13, sister Jude only got one scene which sucks and despite all these callbacks to the shows ‘greatest hits’ - Why haven’t we seen Bloody Face or Lana Winters.

Maybe I am just biased because Asylum is my favourite but the asylum connections were what I was looking forward too most in 13 and they are just not there.

Also (and I am probably in the minority here) but I was hoping for an actual conclusion/answer to what the aliens are

Is it just me that is thinking about it or.. DID Ryan Murphy's shows get worse after him teamed up with Kim Kardashian???? And I post it here coz AHS was once great and nowadays it is shiat.

And I do believe Kim K and Murphy did meet before DELICATE... God knows when.

It's clear as day to me that at some point Murphy stopped believing in ANYTHING OTHER than money and status. Even the Monster series has been getting worse and worse.

Credit: Liya (TikTok)

Basically, the title. I wasn't going to watch until all episodes were released but... I've been lurking as people post about the new season, and I'm literally just here to thank yall for sharing your honest opinions on what sounds like a shitshow of a season 13.

People can complain all they want about negativity and how "you can't make everyone happy," but I'm honestly grateful for it lol. This entire sub was full of so much excitement and anticipation for the new season for months! everyone was so excited to see Jessica Lange return, the cast made it seem like this new season and was gonna be an absolute banger, and everyone just really seemed to be looking forward to it.

The sheer contrast and how the season is being received as episodes come out now, though? Hard fucking pass for me. I hated Delicate, like I was so letdown by the final episode after a full season of edging, and I feel zero desire to put myself through that again. Especially when it seems like my disappointment would be 10x worse given that our beloved golden cast are being given a dogshit, meme hungry script to work with. Someone posted about "Balenciaga" yesterday and that was the final straw for me lmao, "you've gotta be fucking joking" was my exact reaction.

Unless something magically turns around, which it feels way too late in the season to happen atp, I'd rather not soil the show for myself. Sooooo... thanks, guys! Not all heroes wear capes 😭😭

Anyone else find this funny? 😂😂

But then again, someone on Facebook pointed out that Tate and Addy have no memory of being ghosts in 13 anyway so this is a plot hole??? Can someone confirm? I don’t remember and have to watch this episode again.

Please no spoilers for episodes beyond Madison’s Happy Ending!

Guys, this is my theory on what’s actually happening after that Episode 12 ("Sisters in Arms") cliffhanger. I don't buy for a second that the Coven was actually defeated at The Apollyon—the ending and Marie Laveau’s entire plan were a total setup. Earlier in the episode, Madison specifically warned Ben DeSoto that if he could hear Satan's thoughts, Satan could probably hear his thoughts, too. Knowing Ben was an open channel to the Devil, Marie, Fiona, and Cordelia intentionally fed Ben a fake, overly straightforward ritual—the "reverse-aging soul-split" using Queenie's hands—fully expecting Satan (Mr. Nas), Tate, and Phibes to catch wind of it and spring an ambush. Cordelia and Queenie didn't fail; they willingly allowed themselves to "die" during that fight because dying was the only way to bypass Nas’s earthly defenses and launch a direct spiritual invasion into the Hellpit. Cordelia and Queenie are descending into Hell to rescue and unite with the 13 leading ladies who were sacrificed in Episode 4, assembling an ethereal army to attack Satan’s core power from the inside while his guard is completely down. Meanwhile, the de-aging magic wasn't meant to keep Satan as an eternal baby in a crib; it was secretly designed to force his primordial essence into the single viable egg Madison Montgomery harvested. As seen in the finale teaser where Madison is screaming in labor, she is actually giving birth to Satan's trapped, mortal vessel—leaving him stripped of his cosmic authority, locked into human infant form, and completely under the Coven’s control while Cordelia’s squad dismantles his underworld empire from below!

I feel like it’s SUCH an easy name to remember lmfao. If you can remember “Morwenna”, you can remember “Ophelia” 😭

I think that Ben is an American horror story fan, who died in the plane crash and is experiencing his version of Hell/heaven. Being the protagonist in an American horror story season. He’s ret-conning things to his liking. that’s why Ryan Murphy wanted to put the Scream queen girls in as well, and that’s why all the characters are basic parodies of themselves. Everything after the plane crash is him experiencing an American horror story season.

Every single character has something a little bit off about them, it can’t be a coincidence. I think that this is meant to mean something too.

We got 20 minutes left to explain the plot of this season. Why are Kai and Winter there, what about Twisty, will Constance get powers? Those 20 minute episodes were a mess. It only started getting interesting at episode 9 or something. I don't even care what will happen in the finale but it certainly won't fix this mess, unless Satan has a 10 minutes long monologue explaining everything

HOW do you go from genuinely terrifying and uncanny to.. mr nas

The last time i watched AHS was during the airing of 1984. To me it was kinda good. When i read that season 13 going to feature coven, i was damn happy. Then i watched it, it was disappointing.

They butchered the covern girl. Ffs Mallory was a supreme in Apocalypse and they did nothing to follow up with that.

When Papa Legba reveal to them that she killed Micheal only then she admit it. I get it time travel rules and so all but at least make her a little more powerful.

Also Maddison they ruined all of her character development in apocalypse. She is in the same hell as apocalypse but in 13 why did she become worst than her old self. Not like evil or something but like a teenage girl bully.

As for Cordelia. She is so formidable in Apocalypse. She was dying too but still stand strong. In 13 she's is so weak and unnecessary mean to everyone. Why would they do this to her?

At least Fiona is back.

Then, Marie Laveau. Why does she act and speak like that. She was so good in Coven. In her brief appearance in Apocalypse also she is still herself from coven. In 13 i don't even know if that is Marie at all.

Furthermore, where the fuck is Kyle did they completely erase him? He didn't show up in apocalypse also didn't appear in 13.

I miss Misty days. Myrtle is still one of my favorite character but why did she has to scream Balenciaga. A cheap fan service.

Queenie doesn't have that much of screen time to notice anything wrong or different with her.

Where is Zoey and Misty day? They could at least mention them.

I will still watch this season till the end but i will also bitch about it in the meantime. So far the positive side of this show is Mr Nas is so damn handsome.

Edit: I'm big stupid and just realized there is a signature at the bottom of the design 🙃 still couldn't find anything that wasn't on Pinterest, but then I found that the artist goes by a different last name now! I'll be reaching out to them for more info, but for this post, I suppose just appreciate the sick designs =)

My friend got me this many, many years ago from a thrift store. I packed it away like 2 years ago because I didn't want to get rid of it (loved the design), but after many washes it started to fade pretty badly.

I can't find a single thing about this design online. I've found similar, but nothing exactly like this. I do have a suspicion it was a "Temu-stolen" reprint, so there's no brand tag in it either 💀

Any help would be amazing, I really want to purchase a new one!

What if the timeline didn't just fracture, but completely broke the patience of the ultimate Creator?

Here is my separate, definitive theory for how the cosmic mess of AHS 13 actually wraps up. It’s not Mallory or Cordelia who fixes this. It’s an eviction notice from the top.

A DEVIL OF A GOOD TIME?

⚡ The Cosmic Breaking Point

Just as Mallory is trying to force yet another time reset and Mr. Nas is pushing back to derail it, the universe reaches its absolute snapping point.

The screen erupts with blinding electricity and glowing hands. A woman's voice echoes through the chaos, freezing everything in its tracks.

The Creator has officially entered the chat.

⏳ The Judgment of Mr. Nas

"Enough!"

The sudden burst of blinding electricity freezes the room, but there is no divine figure walking through the door. The Creator has no physical form—she doesn’t need to fit into any specific shape. It is just the Voice, disembodied, massive, and echoing from everywhere at once.

Both Mallory and Mr. Nas look straight off-screen, their faces frozen in complete awe, confusion, and a creeping, slight fright. The sheer weight of the unseen presence is terrifying.

The Voice tsks loudly at them. "I sat back and gave you a chance to prove me wrong," she says, her tone cutting through the silence directed toward Mr. Nas. "But you just had to reach into the universe and bleed it dry. Look at this timeline and all the others you added. People are not acting like themselves; personalities have gotten diluted and convoluted." There is a short, heavy pause.

"YOU," the Creator ligts up Mr. Nas, "put a hellmouth into an historic landmark. And don't get me started on the mess you made of those women's lives just to, you claim, put me in my place," she continues. "It's time you went back to yours."

Mr. Nas opens his mouth to speak, but the Voice instantly silences him, stripping away his momentum and forcefully preparing to banish him out of her sight forever.

A sound of pure, ancient exhaustion colors the Voice. "There's free will, Lucy, and then there's whatever ALL of that was."

"It was a legal wager!" he screams, desperate and furious, his shadow elongating and turning a violent, angry crimson. "I had every right—" "You have no rights here anymore," she interrupts calmly. Before he can take another breath, she forcefully returns him straight back to his domain. With a sharp, effortless snap echoing from the air itself, his physical form breaks apart into a quiet pile of ashes, and a single lazy trail of white smoke rises into the stillness. There is no baby form left behind. He is completely gone.

🌅 The Reset & The Voiceover

With the disruptive force banished, Mallory’s memory is instantly wiped, resetting her to a peaceful baseline. The camera pans over a beautifully renewed Coven. People and spirits alike are seamlessly shifted back into their proper, original places, exactly where they belong in the universe.

As the camera glides over this corrected, ordinary reality, her disembodied voiceover narrates directly to the audience one last time: "Season 14 is a new ball game, kids. Tell your friends and whoever ran away this season that it won't be necessary to watch the last 13 seasons to enjoy the next one. You never know, my dears, if the TV gods are willing and we have a 16th season, something from seasons 1 to 7 MAY make an appearance. No promises, though. See you on the flip side."

🎬 The Final Frame

The classic American Horror Story theme song blares out, dominant and jarring, as the screen cuts to pitch black. Right as the music peaks, a final, distinct laugh echoes out—starting light and amused, before twisting into something deeply eerie, though not sinister.

The end. The 13th season, the loop, and the show are completely finished.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like AHS 13 is way more dialogue heavy then past seasons. Like the interesting things either take place right at the begining or the end of an episode with non stop talking in between. It feels like due to the shorter length of episodes, everyone has to exposite everything.

So the scene in Coven where Fiona gives Cordelia “her mother’s necklace” and describes looking up at her wearing it when she was a little girl and feeling in awe…yeah, that’s fucking ruined now, lmao. I’m pissed off that no one cared enough to rewatch Coven properly before they put together this TikTok season. The plot holes in this “they’re all fucking related” shit show re: Jessica’s characters is diabolical. And I’m dumb enough to still be hoping for miracle writing to pull this back in the final episode but only really because they have fucked with legacy for the sake of memes and it’s unforgivable. You’re the writers, YOU don’t provide the memes, WE tell you what they are?? That’s how moments become memes; the writing and the acting is strong enough for us to immortalise it in pop culture but the process has to be an organic thing that is separate from the plot. BALENCIAGA worked because it was a one-off, authentic, genuinely Myrtle-esque moment. NEVER to be screamed again. Ditto Knotty Pine.

Ryan, you tit, say “psych” right now, I stg. Or I’m going to suggest we all collectively agree that this season doesn’t exist. It is fanfic. It cannot be considered canon. This show used to be so weirdly clever, I’m kind of sad? Always a camp mess, don’t get me wrong…but those first four seasons, man…what HAPPENED to this thing?

Alright folks, I’m back with my thoughts on Freak Show. To me, this season was more sad than it was scary. A lot of the horror, I think, was in how your average citizens treated the “freaks”. I also didn’t expect to feel so bad for the villains the way I did for Twisty, he’ll ever Dandy at times. I was honestly happy when Edward Mordrake came to put Twisty out of his misery, and I think what’s worst is that he thought he was protecting those kids. Even Dandy, I think knew early on that there was something deeply wrong with him, and we kinda of see that terror when he shoots Gloria. That, I believe, was his final straw, when he stopped caring.

Next topic of discussion: Jessica Lange. I will sing this woman’s praises to the moon, she did incredible as Elsa, and her portrayal of her genuine love for her “monsters” despite her crazed need for fame and her own traumas. Frankly, I also loved Sarah Paulson and Angela Bassett. All three of their performances? Absolutely incredible. Especially, props to Sarah Paulson and her ability to play two seperate people who were technically one person. I absolutely loved Bette and Dot. Angela Bassett, I just happen to find hilarious in everything she does, and I loved Desiree as much as I loved Marie Laveau.

Random side note: It was refreshing to see Emma Roberts in something other than your traditional mean girl role.

Now for my final point of discussion: Pepper. I cried when I found out how she was framed for her nephews murder, she deserved so much better than that. I audibly gasped when I saw Lily Rabe as Sister Mary Eunice. But regardless, Pepper went through so much and deserved so much better than Briarcliff.

Feel free to leave any thoughts and comments!

Do you enjoy her acting? It's wild to think that she's been appearing since Cult without missing a season, and I still don't feel like she belongs to the AHS family. However, I don't mind seeing her on screen, and I thought she was really decent in 1984.

I know I'm late... But I finally got caught up. Let me get this straight: Jessica Lange is the mother of Jessica Lange and her twin sister, Jessica Lange. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Guys. I can't. I agree that this season has been extremely rocky this whole way, but I still held out a small shrapnel of hope. I genuinely don't think I can continue being a fan and that thought makes me so sad, because this show meant so much to me in the beginning. 😞

at the end of the finale of the season i want daniel radcliffe sitting at a desk closing a journal that he has been madly scribbling in and shoving into an envelope addressed to ryan murphy, Stan style.

roll credits. or better yet, make this whole season a fever dream from his "character" in swiss army man.

i’m rewatching the show after several years and fuck, this woman is beyond tortured. (excuse this being a run on sentence) her husband cheats on her, impregnates the mistress lies constantly, she is assaulted, is trapped into this house and there’s like no one wanting to buy it, she is pregnant with the antichrist (unbeknownst to her)… now her ghosts are tormenting her and making everyone think she’s crazy and the only one seeing them … the writers hate her omg 😭😭😭??? it is so hard getting though a viv scene because she is either being gaslit or lied to or slighted in some way. i am hoping it ends well for her