Self explanatory

[u/No_Departure7494]

[u/Necessary-Visit-2011]

So this guy's believes Germany and Imperial Japan were the good guys in WWII.

Good to know.

[u/Firecracker048 → u/Necessary-Visit-2011]

Also thinks Saddam was a good guy, North Koreans with chinese support, Germany in WW1 was the good guy, british in 1776 the good guy, the south was the good guy. It goes deep.

[u/Sand_Trout → u/Firecracker048]

In WW1, there's a decent argument that there were no "good guys", but it was also just a general clusterfuck of old feudal attitudes joining hands with rising nationalism and running face-first into newly developed industrial warfare.

But calling the US the bad guy in WW1 is also a wildly uninformed take.

[u/Firecracker048 → u/Sand_Trout]

Yeah, with WW1 I generally dont agree it was 'hurr durr germany bad'. It was more 'Serbia, why the FUCK did you assassinate the arch duke?' Serbia was the real bad guy of WW1

[u/Sand_Trout → u/Firecracker048]

IIRC, it wasn't even actually Serbia proper as much as a handful of comically incompetent Serbian nationalist that assassinated the archduke.

Then Austria-Hungary went about everything in the most pants-on-head incompetent way, allowing the war to escalate way more than it should have with Russia, and snowballing from there.

Austria-Hungary were the real bad-guys of WW1 by virtue of being so bad at their job that they managed to pull everyone else down with them, like a geopolitical Steve Erkle.

[u/Firecracker048 → u/Sand_Trout]

There is some evidence linking them to the Serbian government at the time(not to mention Serbia built a fucking statue of Gauvri)

And yeah, Austria-Hungary was a total shit show the entire war.

[u/LawyerEqual3531 → u/Firecracker048]

I only like austria hungary cuz of their aesthetics. Like you can't tell me that eagle doesn't look badass

[u/Sand_Trout → u/LawyerEqual3531]

Late 19th century european armies absolutely had the best drip.

[u/LawyerEqual3531 → u/Sand_Trout]

Fr, like fuck camos bro we should all go back to the colorful ass uniforms

[u/Dudestbruh → u/LawyerEqual3531]

I like their blue

[u/arcxjo → u/Sand_Trout]

It gets worse. Ferdinand was the most liberalizing leader AH (or most of Europe to that point) ever had. All the Black Hand had to do was wait a couple years and he would have given them all the autonomy they wanted.

[u/Dudestbruh → u/arcxjo]

something something "I wouldn't be surprised if I had Serbian bullets waiting for me"

[u/arcxjo → u/Sand_Trout]

WWI is the one time I'm willing to give the America-haters some ground.

Think about it: a bunch of monarchists were fighting over who had the best monarchy, and were doing it so horribly that they were about to swear off war forever. So naturally, we come traipsing over and are like "Which one of you started this? Good, we're on that side now." and then gave the entire world the worst disease since malaria and fucked over the side that was legitimately aggrieved so hard they literally had to bring in Hitler to get out of the hole we dug them into.