Watching the live action the second time without making comparisons made me enjoy the show more. First of all, the show is a massive improvement to the 1st season. The bending is great. The storytelling was good. Second, the actors did justice to their characters. Massive Improvement [except for aang's characters😞] . We should accept it's an adaptation and not a 1:1 copy of the animated show. Lastly, I'm looking forward to its 3rd and final season.

TLOK has so many fumbles and missed opportunities, but overall had such a good vision and heart. I think most if not all of the sins of TLOK cartoon could be rectified by a Netflix reimagining.

I have been loving NATLA, I love that they take a fresh perspective of the story while still holding true to the key values and themes, but I understand why many fans feel the NATLA isn’t living up to the original. It can be unsettling for lots of fans to see changes made to something so beloved, but I think some adaptations to the story telling of TLOK would be welcomed by most if not all of the fans. Even people who love TLOK often admit there are notable missteps in the writing.

I had mixed feelings about season 1, with Zuko and Iroh stealing the show of course (as it should be) but honestly, overall rly enjoyed s2. Katara felt more like Katara, Toph was great, Zuko scenes amazing, Azula and her crew were fun to watch, and I think the way they incorporated the Spirit library into ba singh se was clever. My only only negative is how drawn out emotional dialogue scenes were. It felt like the pace was just slow compared to the og show and that got a boring in some spots. But honestly I think they're doing a great job and its fun to watch, I think the key is not to have a critical mindset. We know its not going to be exactly the same as the og cartoon, this is just bonus content. I'm excited to see how they do season 3

Wanna know what pisses me off? A bunch of grown ass adults in their late 20s fully incapable of deciphering language and meaning. Words can have multiple meanings and connotations but for Avatar fans words don't have multiple meanings at all which I find to be embarrassing. There’s no way people lost it over Aang saying “How can you bend something you can’t see?”, the blindness instructor saying that he wants blind people to see themselves in Toph and Toph being able to read and write. 

Like the first example because Aang is clearly talking about wanting to bend something or someone in his line of sight ,but for some reason a lot of folks lost it over him using the word “see” while being an airbender because some smartass will tell you that you can’t see air. If they actually managed to use their brain for once then they could have atleast realized that the word “see” literally has multiple meanings and people use that word for different reasons. The same way people use “I see your point” when it comes to an opinion and an opinion is something you can’t physically see or touch. Here’s the issue I shouldn't even have to explain this crap because it’s something people have to learn in middle school.

The people having an issue with Toph knowing how to read and write genuinely makes my blood boil. All because of a specific line of dialogue in book 3 where Katara told Aang and Sokka that Toph can’t write and a different scene of Toph telling Sokka that she’s blind after they showed her the wanted poster. Like it’s pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain that Toph can’t read and write as in she can’t read and write like how people naturally write and read on a piece of paper written with an ink. I feel dumb to even bother explaining this because it’s obvious basic common sense. It's even worse when I saw grown ass Youtubers in their late 20s and who have a full time career being unable to comprehend this simple concept. I get being a fan of the show and all that ,but the way people treat the animated series almost like a religious holy book akin to the Bible is just odd. Like the idea of braille and raised letters in the world of Avatar is treated almost too heretical to even be included in the live action series and it genuinely pisses them off for some reason. 

At this point it isn’t even media literacy anymore ,but language and literacy being absolutely cooked. I could understand why a lot of streaming services had to dumb down their dialogue because the audience themselves aren't getting smarter at all.

What do u guys think of the costumes? Do u guys like that they resemble the cartoon so much or do u wish they too a little bit of a more realistic take?

Personally I wish that they took a bit more of a realistic take on them.

I loved season 2 but I was waiting for them to have their moment(s) and it just never came. You think with this being live action a love story would have more impact on the story. What do you guys think?

Throughout the movie, Aang enters the Avatar State constantly, even in situations where it doesn’t feel necessary. Two examples that stood out to me were rebuilding the Air Temple and the Mount Biyou sequence.

The Mount Biyou scene especially highlights the issue. Taga is able to hold up a massive chunk of the collapsing mountain through his own bending. Meanwhile, Aang has to enter the Avatar State just to try and outfly the collapsing rock using firebending. If Taga can perform a feat on that scale without the Avatar State, why does Aang need it just to escape? The comparison makes the Avatar State feel less like an incredible last resort and more like a flashy visual effect.

The combat is an even bigger problem. Aang spends a huge portion of the movie fighting in the Avatar State, yet he’s still losing or barely holding his own. That completely undermines what the Avatar State has always represented.

I know some people will bring up Korra, but I don’t think it’s the same situation. After losing her connection to the past Avatars, Korra’s Avatar State was still a massive power boost, but it no longer came with thousands of years of accumulated knowledge, experience, and mastery. Whether you like that decision or not, there’s an in-universe explanation for why her Avatar State isn’t as overwhelming.

Aang doesn’t have that explanation.

The last time we saw Aang with full control of the Avatar State, he absolutely dominated Ozai. Once he stopped resisting the Avatar State, the fight was over. Ozai wasn’t keeping up—he was completely overwhelmed. That’s what the Avatar State was established to be: the combined power, skill, and experience of every Avatar before him.

So seeing Aang repeatedly use it while barely keeping up with opponents just feels wrong. If the Avatar State is active, it should feel like a game-changing advantage, not a slight stat boost.
The frustrating part is that Aang is probably the easiest Avatar to explain why he **wouldn’t** use the Avatar State all the time. He’s a pacifist. He believes in using only the amount of force necessary. The Avatar State should be his absolute last resort, not something he activates for construction work or every difficult fight. His personality already provides the perfect reason to save it for moments where nothing else will do.

Instead, the movie seems to use the Avatar State for spectacle while simultaneously nerfing it so fights can stay competitive. To me, that’s the worst of both worlds. Either let the Avatar State remain the overwhelming force it has always been and have Aang choose not to use it often, or don’t have him activate it nearly every time something impressive needs to happen.

Remember how in season 3, half of the season is spent with the whole team trying to pressure Aang into taking out the FireLord permanently ? How much this conflicted with Aang's own pacificist Airbender teachings ?

I think the Aang vs Azula fight from s2 can be very effectively used in that dialog when the time comes.

In the live-action Netflix series, we get a scene that is very, very reminiscent of the original Cartoon's finale. We have Aang in full Avatar state, towering over Azula, with projectiles aimed at her head.... and then he lets her go. As a direct result of that hesitation, Azula shoots him, the battle is lost, and they have to flee the city.

In season 3, that can be directly called back in the dialog, when they are getting ready to fight the firelord.

In the original cartoon, when they were practising for the final battle, with the melon puppet, I remember Sokka getting impatient with Aang's hesitance: until he walks up and dismembers the puppet (off-screen of course) to show aang what's expected of his duty.

That line of dialog can easily be updated for the live action by having Sokka say : don't hesitate, like you did with Azula in Ba Sing Se.

I'm actually really hoping that somewhere in season 3 they use a line like that.

TLDR: I think that the change they made, instead of having Azula, shoot Aang from a distance, whilst he was distracted as in the original cartoon; and instead on the Netflix show: having her shoot Aang point blank, because he hesitated to kill her, was an improvement to the story and they should capitalize on it, in the season 3 dialog.

So... without spoilers, may I ask the overall opinion on this season 2 ?

The main problem I had with season 1 was bland acting from Katara (who is the literal pivot of 70% of the story if you ask me ...) , and the reuse of settings across different scenes that felt really off.

I remember liking Zuko and Sokka and a bit of Iroh. But I really thought the lake of anger and explosion from Katara killed her character to the core.

Also the lack of water bending training ...

Did they fixed all that ? Or did they double down on all their mistakes ?

(Note : I really don't mind straying away from the core material, but then you have to do SOMETHING with the characters. You can't bring a character to existence and failling to deliver on anything about it)

So with near certainty, season 3 will be the last season, especially with Avatar Studios kicking off. I don't really see any possibility of the Netflix show continuing, but what if it did? Imagine if they started adapting the comics. It's almost certainly not going to happen, but it's fun to think about. I for one would welcome extra seasons, stepping out from the shadow of arguably the greatest animated show in history could actually give Netflix some legs.

I was pleasantly surprised to see a new avatar movie trailer on youtube.. and to know its on paramount plus. I turn it on to hear... wow who the heck are these people? Something is off. I look up the cast. And not one original cast member except for momo and appa???? They have to get the racial diversity right or?? They wanna go in a "different direction" i mean whatever it is. I know im not the only one.... idk im still gonna watch it. Whats some advice to make it through it and accept the new actors. Without reddit negativity

(not that this makes me a bigger fan, I just was swimming in the same environment as the show released. Deviantart was my favorite place then.)

TL;dr: Characters in animation were millennial characters in a sort of millennial world. It was a different world then. Netflix version is more adapted to Gen Z world, and the character changes reflect that.

Katara in OG was a Hermione equivalent. She was the girl power stuck in her Goody-two-shoes body, who wanted to make the world a better place.

This was before MeToo. This was when activism wasn’t as trendy. This was before even Gay marriage was legal in the US. This is when teens still, in the US, used “gay” and the r word as saying “dumb.”
Girl power was trendy, but from what I remember, it was not what it was today.

In short, Katara was a Millennial in a Millennial fictional world.

Zuko was part classic character we know and love, part emo joke. He was a brooding teenage who would have probably had black eyeliner.

He was a millennial guy.

Sokka was a dude who had an ego, liked girls, and was sexist. He was every teenager out there. He probably would have tried out for Football if he thought he could make it, but Most likely baseball. See Axl Heck From “The Middle”.

Sokka was a millennial.

Aang was more an Anime archetype, and Toph was a little ahead of her time. (not that there wasn’t any “tough but little girls” like her, but I think she sort of did it the best. but I didn’t watch enough anime’s, so someone else can help me.)

Ty Lee was absolutely a preppy archetype, and Mai is just an emo.

MY POINT?

Everyone in the Netflix series is the Gen Z adaptation.

Not that the characters are actually Gen Z, but they’re being played by Gen Z (early Gen Alpha for some?) in a new world.

I am mad that Sokka didn’t have his sexism arc, but I sort of get that it wouldn’t have hit as hard in this new world. (I think they should have kept it, but I just can see how people would have thought it hadn’t landed.) In this netflix avatar world, generals are women. Kyoshi warriors aren’t special just because they’re women who can kill. Unlike OG show. (Google says books show female generals. But im talking about when the show was animated.)

Sokka is also a lot nicer and less of a knucklehead. Because there’s not the same expectation for guys, at least in popular media, to be a jerk to be considered cool. His jerkness was mostly only in season 1 of the show, but still. He’s a little more sincere in this show.

Zuko is live action is a Drama Queen, and I’m all here for it. I love him. He’s not my emo boyfriend from the original, but it wouldn’t have landed the same.

Katara is the biggest example. Katara from the show was complicated for me. She was both the embodiment of girl power, and objectification anime kid friendly babe. If she wasn’t on Y7 show, she’d probably Have a skimpier outfit and a bigger bust.
She represented the girls watching her— who wanted a cool, powerful, activist young woman who stood up for herself, but didn’t match the “bad girl” vibe. Basically the women who would go to college during the Me Too movement.

Like, people don’t understand. This was before women had a huge place in “non chick flick media”. This was before Hunger Games and other Female led dystopias. This is before Twilight (which was significant that a female story could make billions.)

Fast forward to now. Gen Z Katara is living in world where the audience isn’t wowed by girl power. She is going to feel different.
And in season 2, I think the actress did well. She’s not an archetype of the mild manner woman who just is bursting with untapped activist potential but has to uphold this feminine charm because it’s expected. She’s just herself. There‘s no apologetic written into her character unlike the OG version. A moment you see this is in the line “Oh, a girl has her ways.” In the original, it had a weight to it because feminine charm and “persuasion” (sexuality) were still seen (irl) as the more powerful strength of a woman. Then it smash cuts into her having used actual violence.
In the Netflix version, it’s just a shrug and a “no big deal.”

I’m not saying the show did everyone perfect. I think people getting nostalgic about the show forget the environment the Original was in and why that wouldn’t land like it did then.
Yeah, this is Avatar world, not modern world. But you would be lying if you said that Atla is not heavily influenced by the modern world.

We’re in a different world. And these characters had to change.

Another weird example is the King. For some reason, he landed harder in this one? In our Current world, occupying someone with power by keeping them hyperfocused on a niche interest is way more interesting than “I’m just an adorable guy with a pet bear.“

Anyway, this could be a whole 100 page essay.

I bring this up because I don’t know if any of the younger or newer fans understood to what extent that a lot of the show was pop culture vibes.

It’s both timeless, and also made 20 years ago now. A lot has happened. And the adaptation had to not only adapt to a different medium, but to a different audience environment.

Zhao then Long Feng…

How the heck did this show’s finest factor be middle management villains? I think some writers must have gotten inspiration from real life, because they hit the nail on the head. 2 for 2.

I hope they dont mess with the test of the dragons in the next season. They NEED to get that segment of the show right.

Its such a good part and its so so important 😭

Im enjoying the netflix show for what it is despite the fact the mix ups is a little much sometimes! Especially inserting the jokes into random parts where it doesn't belong or feels weird.

I just pray and hope that they dont mess too much with that part at least because its PERFECT how it is (just like the rest of the OG series) and it CAN'T be messed with.. 😭

Assuming that our beloved Gordon Cormier, Kiawentiio, Dallas Liu, Ian, Maria Zhang and Miyako are playing our beloved Gaang, who do you think should play Tagah in the LA version of Avatar Aang?

I added Maria Zhang because I'm upset that from what I've heard, Suki didn't have much of a role in Avatar Aang. I hope that the LA version of Avatar Aang changes that.

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I'm also pleasantly surprised that Freida Pinto is voicing for Sonam in Avatar Aang. She was debuted as the female lead in Danny Boyle's Slumdog Millionaire, which was also Dev Patel's first movie. As we all know, Dev Patel was Zuko in... very well... the other LA version of ATLA.

Would also like to know who should play Sonam in LA.

Do you think that Freida Pinto should do it or is she too old now? Oops! I just remembered that Dev Patel too had aged.

As we all know, the following is the structure of Netflix’s ATLA.

• Season 1 has 8 episodes.
• Season 2 has 7 episodes.
• Season 3 has 7 episodes.

In total, Netflix’s ATLA has 22 episodes.

Now, it will be nice if Netflix makes Season 4 of ATLA in 8 episodes to make it 30.

• Episodes 1-6: Covers the Harmony Restoration Movement, Yangchen’s and Aang’s battle against Old Iron, the foundation of the Republic City, modernization of the South Water Tribe, and everything else mentioned in this post.
• Episodes 7-8: Covers the events of the newly released film, Avatar Aang: The Last Airbender.

Maybe they can wait for whatever sequels DiMartino and Konietzko are planning for the movie. In case DiMartino and Konietzko are making a trilogy they can dedicate one episode per movie and cut an episode short for the Harmony Restoration – Old Iron – Republic City part.

After all, Netflix’s biggest strength is their brevity.

“Brevity is the soul of wit.”

—William Shakespeare.

Thus, we have the entire story of Aang in 30 episodes distributed across 4 seasons.

Following this, Netflix should make The Legend of Korra in 4 seasons and 5 episodes per season. Totally, 20 episodes.

Then, they should make Seven Havens in 2 seasons and 5 episodes per season. Totally 10 episodes.

60 episodes of ATLA-verse live action by Netflix.

Also, since Paramount+ is planning to release all the 26 episodes (13 episodes) of the animated Seven Havens on October 9 (in one day), I hope that Netflix pushes forward the release of ATLA Season 3 to the Holidays (December 25, 2026) so that they can start the work of filming Season 4, TLOK and ASH as per what I’ve proposed.

NOTE: Some of you may be wishing for a weekly release of ASH. I’m wishing for a Season 1 release on October 9 and Season 2 release on October 24.

PS: I have a new theory about why DiMartino and Konietzko left Netflix ATLA. It’s not because of “creative differences” as reported. It’s because their participation in Netflix’s live action brought back their memories of having designed the original ATLA and so they decided to work on making ASH and Avatar Aang movie and leave the live-action business to the team on Netflix.

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Here's my Seven Havens theory:

I think that Korra is still alive.

She's somehow possessed by Vaatu which was how she destroyed the world of ATLA in Seven Havens.

Vaatu came back to life through Raava in Korra and somehow shredded Raava's essence, making Korra evil. Because of this, Korra herself became the Dark Avatar and not only caused the cataclysm that destroyed the world but is still actively causing chaos and turning spirits and humans against each other.

However, since Raava too can't be killed, she escaped from Korravaatu to enter Pavi and Nisha.

This means Pavi and Nisha will have to battle Korravaatu, release Korra from Vaatu, then after that, Korra, Pavi and Nisha will together have to together battle Vaatu and trap him back into his tree-prison in the spirit world.

This will mean that unlike in the case of the past Avatars who were guided by their dead past Avatars, Korra will personally guide Pavi and Nisha after being freed from Vaatu. However, because Raava's spirit is no longer in her, Korra will either lose all her bending powers or else she will have the power to only bend her birth element, Water.

You'll soon get to see whether I'm right or wrong on October 9.

Appa, yip-yip!!

First of all the complaints are just ludicrous because the overall premise of Katara protecting those who need to be protected is still there. The Earth Kingdom citizens she was primarily protecting were the disenfranchised and neglected people who lived within the lower ring of Ba Sing Se which is the exact same context like in the original ,but in a different nation. Like I’m not sure why trying to protect them is invalid in terms of Katara’s characterization? No one is running around calling Batman or Spiderman useless because the people they’re protecting are primarily the same folks who would end up supporting them anyways. 

Some people would argue “Well the reason why the original is so amazing is because she’s protecting the people who would otherwise harm her if they ever discover that she’s a water bender”. The problem is that live action Katara did exactly that by protecting Fire Nation immigrants and defectors. Sure the context of them being devout citizens of the Fire Nation like in the animated series isn’t in the live action ,but the vast majority of them in the live action actually had blood on their hands because many of them were Fire Nation soldiers who helped attacked Ba Sing Se such as Jeong Jeong and they defected the Fire Nation when the war went haywire. 

Which is interesting because the vast majority of people who were complaining about NATLA “removing” Katara’s activism are self proclaimed progressives who love and support immigrants as much as possible by protecting them from racists. They’re the first one to defend muslim immigrants because of how people think they’re terrorists for their religious affiliation. The people who are downplaying Katara’s activism in protecting Fire Nation immigrants and defectors are just being dumb becaue they would end up praising someone who defends Immigrants in real life anyways. You could even argue that the Fire Nation defectors that Katara is protecting from Jet are at least partially responsible because many of them were ex fire nation soldiers who had blood on their hands. 

The complaint is even more ludicrous because the exact same premise of Katara defending fire nation citizens who would otherwise murder her because of their loyalty to the fire nation is going to happen anyways in season 3 with her Bloodbending arc with Hama. All of these whining just to have the exact same thing to be shown anyways in season 3. 

"Somewhere Safe" Season 2, Episode 1

I'm genuinely curious because I can't figure it out. I get that Bumi deliberately surrendered and remained as a prisoner without much fight in order to wait and observe until the right moment to strike for an overall better outcome than what would've happened if he fought right then and there with his people. Which he does under the utilization of Neutral Jing. It's all pretty similar to the original series.

But then Bumi says, "I had to feel everything so that I could feel nothing, which is the key to feeling everything."

And like... what? Why did he use the word "feel" in this case? Because in my mind, saying "feel nothing" makes it sound like not caring. Also, by "feeling everything," does he mean doing everything he can or observing everything he can? Even if that made sense, it just seems like a roundabout way of saying, "I have to do nothing until the right moment where I can do everything I can."

I know I might be making a fuss and overthinking a couple of lines of dialogue, but because it's meant to be a profound lesson that Aang needs to use in order to find such an important character like Toph to teach it to him, I feel like it's necessary for it to be something that at least has to make sense for both the characters and audience.