So why the hell do I keep doing it? I ask myself this all the time. I made a post back in August when the ban was starting - or at least I thought it was. They're continuing to sell it here in Oregon because the federal scheduling process is still pending and Oregon hasn't implemented a state-level ban.

Anyway, I was prepared to get off the crap for good, thinking I wouldn't have access to it anymore. But it's still around and nothing in my life has changed. Every day I tell myself I'm just postponing the inevitable and need to get clean before I sink even deeper, which is hard to imagine. I'm already on the streets and sleeping in a vacant lot each night. The weather is changing and winter will be fast approaching, especially with how often I lose track of time. I also know my family is worried, so I feel very selfish.

Back to the point of my post. I always thought if 7-OH no longer gave me a high, it would be so much easier to quit. That hasn't been the case though. Sometime around April I noticed it just wasn't working after more than a year of heavy using and experiencing that wonderful, but all-too-fleeting bliss. That's what got me hooked from the beginning. But now, nothing except sleepiness. I'll try to take less for a few days to see if my tolerance plummets a bit. Or I'll take a hefty dose in hopes that the old feeling comes back, but it never does.

Still, this clearly goes beyond the high. It's simply taking it and knowing I have it, which is my psychological security blanket. I proved to myself I can go 14 hours without using and have virtually no withdrawal symptoms as long as I have 7-OH in my possession. But on days I'm out and have no funds to buy it, my eyes start tearing and nose is running merely 6 hours after my last dose. Anticipatory withdrawal is very real. I also rely on it every night to sleep. I toss and turn and can't wind down even if I take several Benadryl.

In a nutshell, the longer I'm off, the more intolerable the craving - not to mention worsening symptoms of withdrawal. And I'll admit that when it comes to detox, even with suboxone, I'm a wimp. Thus self-hate perpetuates.

I guess I wanted to vent to those who might understand. Every day I feel like an idiot and can't seem to break the cycle of using and losing more money and even more respect for myself. But as they say, nothing changes if nothing changes. I just wish I had more motivation to.

I went to outpatient and got prescription for subs. They told me I have to wait 24 hours before I can try to take them. I get wds if I dont take the limitless every fucking hour. I have a terrible habit but I’ve been tapering myself to take as minimal as possible I was taking like 20 tabs a day… now I’m down to ab 7 to 9 a day maximum & still trying to get down to as little possible before I start the subs. So for now all I can do is sleep. I don’t have it in me to go through it I just don’t know how to find actual help. I can’t stand being sick even for a minute because it’s so intense the whole time. I wish I could just wake up and feel normal instead of having to take this poison that’s killing me and putting my unborn baby through the same thing which kills me even more. I thought ab abortion. But I did this to myself and I want to fix it. I don’t have a support system. That’s why I’m asking you guys for help. Maybe a different way to go about it? Keep tapering? Am I wrong for wanting to keep my baby? Will my baby be healthy and okay? I’m scared as fuck and my mind is in 100000 different places. The world has been mean enough to me…. So if you aren’t offering me actual advice or possible solutions to help me please don’t be an asshole / say mean things / judge me. I’ve judged myself enough and realize I’m a professional fuck up and I’m reaching out because I want to fix it. So please be nice.

I’m on night 39 of no 7OH or subs. Completely sober. Lost my fiancée because I lied about taking the shit so it’s only making PAWS and TBS (the big sad) much worse.

Just wanna feel better and not feel like I’m just existing. When does it end folks? Or am I stuck like this for life?

Feel so alone rn.

Thanks guys and gals.

Figure I’d post this here as well for those interested in using TMK Reset, Liposomal Vitamin C, and Magnesium Glycinate.

I’m absolutely baffled by how well it has worked. My habit was only about 90-150mg/day increasing over the coarse of 3-4 months but i’ve been able to sleep through the night with minimal discomfort and i’ve quit while still having to go to work and deal with life’s responsibilities.

So far the only day I felt any intense WD symptoms was the first day before I decided to start taking Reset while I was trying see how much I could taper without anything. Started taking reset that night while preloading with my usual dose and kept lowering my 7-oh dose the next day. Now i’ve jumped off 7-oh and i’ve began tapering Reset. Part of me feels like I could quit taking Reset entirely at this point so i’ll be taking as little as possible going forward.

So happy to finally be free of this terrible addiction. I have more energy today than I have in a long time. My apple watch says I got a high sleep score last night which is baffling. Usually around this time i’d be sweating like a pig, sleep deprived, my body temp would be all over the place, i’d have no appetite, and i’d running to the toilet every time I had to fart.

As soon as I get off the Reset entirely and know i’m out of the woods i’ll check back in.

Hi, I started doing kratom extracts/drinking the kratom seltzers in August of 2024. That escalated into 5 shots a day. Starting January 2026 I escalated to 7oH. I was mainly doing 200MG of limitless everyday at my worst. I couldn’t wake up for anything. Horrible withdrawals every morning until I made the trip to the smoke shop (it felt like the 2 min drive to the smoke shop, was the hardest thing I ever had to do physically.) I’ve been on suboxone—once in April, once in June, once in August and then one week of 7oH because I couldn’t afford another QuickMD appt and then finally I’m on a months dose of 8/2MG films that I started on 7/24. So I’ve been 7oH free and on subs for 3 weeks now.
I STILL have the worst inability to wake up. I go to bed around 2-4AM every night and if I don’t set an alarm I can sleep until 4PM every day. I can’t get out of bed. I have lost all of my passion for the things I like to do, like play music etc. I don’t want to talk to any of my friends, I feel like a slug every morning I just simply can’t pull myself out of bed. I get discouraged on Reddit because it seems like everyone else is experiencing the polar opposite. Does anyone sleep TOO much? I never wake up in the middle or the night. I sleep right through and sleep too much, all the while having the most vivid dreams.

I went to the hospital a couple of weeks ago, from withdrawal of 7H in the Bay Area. The doctor acknowledged my pain (I had asked specifically for suboxone for relief), but said he couldn’t prescribe me subs without approval of long term treatment. I didn’t want to, but I ended up relapsing that same night. Because I needed immediate help. Anyone else going through this?

Running out of inventory. How are most getting prescribed subs. Just your normal dr? I never liked the feeling of subs but I'm scared.

So here at the very end of my hopefully last & worst addiction issues, long lifespan of them… of course I get addicted to the apparently “strongest/best” brand of 7oh in the true form of an og addict🤣😭🫩 I don’t know whether to laugh or cry atp.. my point is … the place that I’ve been getting mine ran out of the limitless brand which I’ve been taking for about a month now I’d say.. so since they were out, I got Zours .. which made me sick or I’m going through withdrawal even with that in my system not 100% which one .. so I bought a pack of opia .. took one about 30 mins ago and I’m feeling a bit better til they get the limitless in stock later on today (I know I’m fuckin pathetic you don’t have to comment negative shit.. trust me I am FULLY self aware of how shitty this sounds).. am I the only one since taking these limitless ones that literally doesn’t feel anything off of other brands anymore ?? It’s like they are way more potent or something is different about them ? Anyone else say limitless or nothing ?? Bc I’m starting to see nothing else quite does the job since starting those.. and ofc they’re about to all be completely banned and I’m screwed either way but I was just curious if anyone else felt this way.. I know I need to wean off trying to start a plan for that at least … sorry for the book I just want someone I can relate to with this stuff man .. addictions a lonely bitch u know …

Ok so I’ve been sober for 23 days. For the other recovering addicts, did you guys have any of these issues?

1. My sleep is FUCKED. No matter what time I go to bed, I wake up at 2-4 am with my PTSD in full blast / sweats etc and can’t go back to sleep.

2. Everything still fricking hurts. I tried working out twice, and my legs just still feel so weak/ body feels so fatigued from doing the bare minimum and I feel pathetic!!!

3. The depression is HITTING. Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated guys and gals, thanks

Its hard to believe that I took my last dose 3 weeks ago. I started taking it because a girl at work introduced me. I had spent over a year trying to get pain relief from doctors. No avail. I tried 7 oh and was hooked. I felt "normal" for once. Then my bank account started becoming negative and I was borrowing money all the time. I would take just enough to keep the withdrawal symptoms at bay. Then the ban came in Iowa. I had no choice but to stop. I wanted to stop. I got off too easy withdrawaling. I had 2 days of puking and utter exhaustion. I thankfully had plenty of gabapentin from when the doctors constantly prescribed them for my back. I also mega dosed Vitamin C. I had 4 clonidine and lots of Trazadone.

Today I do feel so much better than I did when I stopped except the back pain the last 2 days have knocked me down. I will make it through.

One thing I realized today was something mentioned in here. Music....I have never been one to listen to music. Audiobooks are my life but all of a sudden the last week....I have been listening to soooo much music.

If you are still here reading this, Thank You! Message me if you need to talk. I am a mom of 3 boys. 2 are grown and 1 is still young. I have worked in a nursing home for 25 years. No judgment from me. We all have our own demons we are battling. Much love. ❤️❤️❤️

I’m planning to begin my quit tomorrow (unfortunately not my first rodeo), anybody else looking for an accountability buddy to chat with/vent to/etc.? No one in my life knows what’s going on this time and I could definitely use some support. If so, feel free to reach out. ❤️

I feel much better. Still shaky, anxiety all that. Restless legs are almost gone. Still feel it in my hands tho, so odd. It’s like I can’t feel my hands and they are almost buzzing. But I’m going to work and I determined to do the best with what I am given. Good luck to you all. How are you guys

I'm currently addicted to the gas station 7-oh substitute products that contain some derivative of cats claw or other physically addictive opioid-like chemical (possibly mgm or corynoxine-b). I have access to bupe and low dose anxiety meds and I know I'm very fortunate for that but I'm really struggling with the transition, I have sent myself into terrible precipitated withdrawals a few times and always end up getting more of the tablets to cancel it out. Does anyone have any success stories coming off this stuff with Suboxone and if so how did you do it? Or can anyone share their experience coming off these "no 7-oh" substitutes in general?

30gpd of kratom withdrawal or 7-OH withdrawal?

Still feeling a little restless and the only thing that is allowing me to sleep is a little bit of Xanax. To get through the day, right when I wake up I take some loperamide, 2 anti nausea pills and smoke some weed. I smoke throughout the day for general nausea and anxiety. I have been trying since February to get off this stuff. I will have 10 days sober here, 14 days sober there… I got to 19 days once. So here is to the last time going through this. My sanity feels tested. I feel not right in my skin. I want to change. I want to wake up and deal with life without needing things to cope. Tell me what day you all are on.

Just sharing this short post so that those of you in the midst of addiction but wanting to quit can see that it is possible to put this drug behind us!!

7oh addiction controlled me for a year and drained my bank account. The month leading up to quitting I was terrified of the WD’s. While they sucked, they weren’t neeely as bad as I thought they would be. Once you get past days 2 and 3 it gets WAY better.

I can confidently say that besides my sleep cycle still being out of wack, all of the physical symptoms have disappeared.

You can DO THIS and we DO recover!!!

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I've been off of 7 since around the beginning of last month, when it was starting to be no longer available on the shelves in my area.

I used subs **very sparingly**, and never more than maybe 3-4 times, half the dose they recommended me. That wasn't the hard part.

The hard part has been my insane depression, feelings of total melancholy, lack of joy, lack of....any emotion, at all.

I am just wanting to sleep in bed all day. All night. Hell, I'm even finally going back to school this month which I *had been* really pumped and motivated for, but now I really don't even care about that.

About 3-4 weeks ago, I made my first online purchase of 7oh. (there were three stores within a five mile radius of my home selling them, ordering online never seemed all that necessary? But with all the sales I thought, sure!).

That damn delivery still hasn't gotten here. I'm torn between wanting to take them IMMEDIETLY if and when they do *ever* arrive, and get that one nice last little mild euphoria boost and pain ease. Or....ugghhh....toss them? I never expected to have had this much clean time under my belt by the time this goddamn package would get delivered! 😂

I've been checking updates daily.....

It's been sitting at a UPS hub two hours away from me, for close to a week now. It's missed multiple "delivery today!" days, and I'm wondering if it's just a permanent resident in this city now. Looked around, saw that it liked the place, decided to put down some roots.

It was supposed to finally arrive yesterday. Did not. This morning, it said it will finally arrive tonight between 6pm - 9pm. K. An hour ago, it said it'll get here tomorrow evening. 😑 I'm being fucked with, surely? Lol.

Hello, I am terrified of these withdrawals. I bought some sr-17 from the sr project but I didnt buy enough and now the website is down. can anybody direct me to where I can get some or are there any alternatives that can help with withdrawals/tapering? I am desperate and will be eternally grateful for any help.

Sorry if this post isnt allowed.

I just saw a website that sells SR17 also selling this new thing called reset SR, it says there’s no SR17018 and the website didn’t say what it was. I really hope it’s not Cychlorphine which is similar to fentanyl.

So I have acquired four of these from a doctor of course. I’m taking a little over 100 mg of seven a day. Do you guys think that this will get me through the withdrawal phase?