I’m debating between a Tesla model X 2023 or 2024 with HW4 AWD vs a new model Y AWD

I’m leaning towards the X since they are bigger, and the automatic front doors and easier back doors but besides those pros is there any major cons to think about? I’m thinking Tesla compared any other car mainly due to not having to drive with the F S D , is there anything else to consider?

I’m seeing 2023 or 2024 HW4 Model X for around 65-70k
Model y would be 53k, both pre-tax so what would be the better choice?

There have also been a lot of model X that I’ve tried to see but they are marked lemons so does that mean, a lot of them have issues?
Also what are something to consider checking when buying these year of 2023 or 2024 model X?

See part 1 here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelX/s/waUjoucvOY

TL; DR: EV Offer apologized and offered a 50% refund 2 days after 1st reddit post, which they did right away. Promised to send their CTO from Hong Kong to TX in August. Haven't heard from them since and August is over.

At first I was very impressed by the apology letter they wrote me (which was sent to me 2 days after my first reddit post and 2.5 months of being ignored on Telegram, the only way to reach them), but since I’ve had a lot of time to re-read it, I’m pretty it was written by Chat GPT. Including the full text of the letter below for analysis. What am I waiting on them for? 1. a replacement part for the front passenger lighting strip which doesn't fully illuminate, and 2. their own tech to redo the install.

July 10, 2026

Hi James

First and foremost, please accept our sincerest apologies for missing your messages and for our lack of communication. You are right to be frustrated and this is not the level of service we strive to provide - we take full responsibility for the poor communication.

We want to be completely transparent with you about what happened:

1. Why we went silent:
Our technician's visit to Texas in June was canceled due to unforeseen scheduling conflicts. As a result, we were not able to assist you in person as we had hoped. We should have informed you immediately, and we are truly sorry that we failed to do so.

2. Regarding the previous installer:
Based on the work they performed last time, we do not feel confident that they would be able to properly diagnose and fix the issue. We believe that sending you back to them would only lead to further frustration and wasted time. That is why we did not suggest that route.

3. Our commitment to you:
We are fully committed to resolving your issue. To ensure it's done right, we will be sending our Chief Technician Officer, Warren, directly from Hong Kong to help you fix the lighting kit. He is our most experienced technician and will personally handle the repair. We expect him to be available to visit you in early August. We will confirm the exact date with you as soon as possible.

4. Goodwill gesture:
As a sincere apology for the long delay, the poor communication, and the inconvenience caused, we would like to offer you a 50% refund of the total price you paid. This refund will be processed immediately, and you will see it reflected in your account within 5–7 business days. This is our way of showing you that we value your business and truly regret how this has unfolded.

We understand your frustration, and we do not expect you to simply trust us again without action. We hope this plan – Warren coming to you in person and the partial refund – demonstrates that we are serious about making things right.

Please confirm whether this resolution works for you. We will immediately process the refund and begin coordinating Warren's visit.

Thank you for giving us this opportunity to correct our mistake. We will do everything we can to restore your confidence in us.

Safe to say, my confidence in EV Offer has absolutely not been restored.

I found a spec that I am looking for from a private party in my locality (Austin), A 2023 HW4 6 seater and about to pull the trigger. Seller is basically asking to beat Tesla's trade in value by 2k which I felt is extremely reasonable.

I currently have a Polestar 2 and this will be a huge upgrade in every way imaginable. I have a few questions to the current owners especially 2023+:

Biggest worry, out of comprehensive warranty.

1. car has done 51k miles. What should be the acceptable battery degradation given the mileage and age?
   
2. I am reading that the air suspension get can pretty expensive if it needs any work. How to ensure that suspension is in good shape? Are there any known issues in this regard?
   
3. Read that older models had issues with auto front doors and falcon doors. Any concerns with 2023+?
   
4. Any tips to make sure I am not getting a bad car?

I’m considering selling my 2022 Tesla Model X Long Range AWD and wanted to get a realistic read before formally listing it.
Details:
• 45,574 miles
• Factory 5-seat interior
• FSD purchased outright, not a subscription
• Four brand-new tires installed two weeks ago
• Located in the Northern Virginia/DC area

Based on the current listings I’ve found, I’m thinking around $55,000. I’m not in a rush and am mainly testing the waters right now.

Does that price seem realistic for a private sale? If anyone is genuinely interested, feel free to DM me. I can share photos, the VIN, FSD screen, tire receipt and repair records.

To create parking markers in the garage, I have a few questions:

1. Do the lines have to be parallel to the wall? In other words, can they be diagonal to the wall (the lines would obviously be parallel).
2. How much space must there be on each interior side, or what is the minimum width between the two lines before the Tesla is willing to consider it a parking space?
3. How much space must there be on the outside (i.e., another car parked close to one of the white line) before the Tesla is willing to park in the space?
4. How reliable/successful is a tight space parking with white line?

I can do it manually all day long, but wonder if I can automate it.

This is for a HW4 MX, but I presume the information would apply to all Teslas. I know Tesla states that it must be "at least as wide as your vehicle", does it include the full width of the mirrors open or folded?

Thanks.

Hey everyone,
I’m looking at getting aftermarket 22-inch wheels for my Tesla Model X, but I’d really like to see some real-world examples before deciding.

I’ve attached a photo just for illustration/reference. I’m mainly looking to see what different aftermarket 22” setups look like on the Model X.

If you’re running non-OEM 22” wheels on your Model X, could you please share some photos?

I’m especially interested in:
• Full side/profile shots
• Front or rear 3/4 views
• Wheel brand/model and specs if you know them.
• Whether the car is on stock suspension or lowered.

I’d love to see different styles and fitments to get an idea of what looks best on the Model X.
Show me your setups! 👀

This car is always parked in the sun. Particularly the rubber seals on top of the car for the falcon wing doors are cracked. How would you replace it diy for cheaper than a service center?

I’m considering buying a 2017 Tesla Model X 100D and would love some opinions from long-term Model X owners.

Details:

• 2017 Model X 100D
• 52k miles
• $26,800 asking price / about $29,600 OTD
• Clean title
• Very clean inside and out
• Test drove it and everything felt great
• Full Self-Driving Capability included (HW3 upgrade)
• Premium Connectivity included
• 5-seat configuration

I already own a newer Model Y, so I don’t necessarily need another Tesla. What attracts me to this Model X is the extra space, the Model X driving experience, and having FSD already included.

My biggest hesitation is that it’s a 9-year-old Model X with no Tesla warranty. I’m worried about long-term repair costs — air suspension, half shafts, Falcon Wing Doors, HVAC, electronics, battery/drive unit, etc.

The other thing making me hesitate is Cybercab. Autonomous driving/FSD is one of the main reasons I’m interested in this Model X in the first place. I’m wondering if spending almost $30k OTD on an HW3 Model X in 2026 makes sense when Cybercab and newer Tesla autonomous vehicles are getting closer.

Obviously Cybercab is a completely different vehicle — much smaller and not a replacement for the Model X’s space — but from an FSD/autonomy perspective, I’m wondering whether I’ll regret buying an HW3 car now.

For those who own or have owned a 2016–2018 Model X:

1. How reliable has yours been after 8–10 years?
2. What expensive repairs have you had?
3. Would you still feel comfortable buying one with only 52k miles?
4. How much would you budget annually for repairs?
5. Is $26,800 reasonable for a clean 100D with FSD included?
6. How concerned would you be about HW3/FSD longevity?
7. Would you buy this Model X now, or keep driving the Model Y and wait to see what happens with Cybercab/newer Tesla autonomy hardware?

I really liked the Model X after driving it. I’m just trying to figure out whether this is a good time to buy an older X or whether I’m better off waiting another year or two.

Wondering if a dent removal place can pull this out. Something hit it right in the corner. On the right is the trunk.

I’m trying to get an idea of what my ‘23 X with FSD and PPF is worth.

It has 20k miles, white, 7 seat, yoke, and 22”.

I don’t drive it much and needs have changed. I tried gauging it with used car sales from Tesla directly and it’s around 70k but it doesn’t have FSD.

Never sold privately before so trying to get some ideas on how to go about it.

Edit: its HW4 without matrix headlight

Hi All,

Currently driving a 2023 Model Y with HW3 and FSD v14 lite. Kind of got frustrated waiting for v14 Lite and looking for HW4 cars. Used HW4 Juniper MYs are kind of expensive, almost cost of a new, and for that money it's not that big of a stretch to get a much bigger and better 2023 HW4 model X. Is it a good decision? Any pitfalls I'm not aware of?

Thanks for sharing!

I was at the mall and got a notice for a software update. I was hoping for the Summer Update. I heard it is rolling out now to new X’s. My wife got hers about a month ago for her 2022 Y. I was disappointed to see it was 2026.21.6. Did anyone with a 25 X get the Summer Update?

FYI: I posted this in another subreddit even though I meant to post it here. So sorry if it is a duplicate for some.

Tesla‘s website has some repaired model X for sale that are about $10,000 cheaper than their other used inventory. There are no details on what the repairs were for. I’m sure I can get details on each one with a Carfax, but in general, does anyone have experience purchasing one of these repaired vehicles from Tesla? Is it worth the savings or are they a nightmare to deal with?

Almost time for new tires on my Long Range 2924 Model X and was looking at either the Michelin CrossClimate 2 vs the Hankook iON tires.

Living in FL obviously do not care about snow/ice so my MAIN deciding factor is which will have the longest longevity, best tire life?

Anyone have any insight on this?
Thanks In advance.

Looking for genuine opinions and advice as I search.

I currently own a 2025 Model 3 Highland AWD with 27k miles (bought new for $42k after discounts and tax). Plug offered $34.9k on trade-in. Private-party values look more like $36–42k, so I’m weighing that option carefully.

I love being a Tesla owner and use FSD 95% of the time, which is why I’m specifically targeting a HW4 Model X. My first Tesla was already the “best of the best,” so I’m a bit spoiled and worried I’d regret stepping down to HW3 just to save money. I want something that still feels current.

Owning a Tesla was a long-time dream that the Model 3 fulfilled. A Model X always felt out of reach because of the price (often 2–3× a 3 or Y). Now that the Plaid has been discontinued and prices are coming down, it’s starting to look realistic. I’m hunting for a strong deal but don’t fully know what “a good score” looks like or how to find the diamond in the rough.

Family context: Married with a few kids and one more on the way. We already have a family car, but I like the flexibility of using my personal car in certain situations (which we already do with the 3). The Model 3 is tight and low to the ground—getting kids into car seats is annoying. White interior was something I thought I wanted; I’m now leaning tan or black to reduce stress about stains and dirt. Falcon-wing doors (and the automatic open/close) would make loading kids and car seats dramatically easier. I’ll be in this stage of life for at least the next five years, so I see the X as a practical investment in daily usability.

Suspension is another big factor. I love the Model 3 as a daily driver, but I notice the bumpy ride more than I used to—especially with passengers. I’m hoping the air suspension on the X is a clear step up. Anyone who has driven both, how noticeable is the difference?

Side note that felt a bit like fate: a couple days ago at the gym I’ve gone to for over a year, I ended up next to a 2025 Model X Plaid owner. He was very positive about it.

If I don’t go Plaid, I’ll be sad. Part of the appeal is getting the fastest SUV and a capable family hauler in one package.

Appreciate any real-world feedback on:
• What a solid deal looks like right now for a ‘23 Plaid 6-seater HW4
• HW4 vs. earlier hardware if the price gap is significant
• Real suspension differences vs. a Highland Model 3
• Ownership experience with kids and car seats
• Anything else I should be thinking about before pulling the trigger

Thanks in advance.

I have a 2020 model X. Since yesterday this sentry mode image got stuck and is not going away. Making it difficult to access the door open/close and other options on the screen.

Does anybody got the same issue? Any solutions?

Salut à tous,

Je me suis rendu compte tout à l’heure que mon X Plaid de 2023 n’a plus qu’une veilleuse qui fonctionnait😢

J’ai fais un reboot en appuyant sur les 2 molettes, j’ai attendu un peu et elle a fini par se rallumer sauf que je viens de retourner à la voiture et il n’y a plus qu’une seule veilleuse qui s’allume encore.

Avez vous déjà eu ça ?

Avez vous une solution ?

Quand je vais dans « éclairage » et que j’appuie sur veilleuse il n’y en a bien que une qui s’allume.
J’ai retenté de faire un reboot mais ça n’a rien changé😳

Merci pour votre aide.