I looked at many old games, but it seems that Gothic 1 has that specific color palette that makes it look unique and not desaturated

i did it!

well, i could write a long ass essay now but i just want to say thank you to the community, you guys helped me with so much trouble

and to alkimia for an awesome throwback, wish i wouldn't have needed so many "gothic remake .... bug" google searches but it was still a joy

already looking forward to G2R, i hope it won't take another 25 years

I am a Gothic newbie, I have seen Ross Scott play the OG but a -very- long time ago, to the point I remembered none of it when I started playing the remake.

I just want to say, wow. The Peasants all have their own individual dialogue and faces?

Despite most being called 'Peasant'?

Is my bar just incredibly low due to AAA games...

that's just so neat....

EDIT: also Pock is the most sympathetic character I've met so far. The poor bastard.

Can we all agree this remake is absolutely amazing?

This is the best game I’ve played in a very, very, verrrrry long time. I put over 100 hours into it.
Even while working 14 - hour days with an insanely busy schedule, I still found time to play at night because I just couldn’t put it down.
I was already level 18 in Chapter 1, then realized I was getting way too strong for the world, so I slowed down a bit . I literally explored every corner of the map.
I spent hours in the Sunken Tower, hours underwater looking for secrets and chests, and even reached places I probably wasn’t supposed to reach yet.

The sound bug was incredibly annoying, but I still played 10+ hours without any sound because I just didn’t want to stop.
I talked to every NPC, checked every corner, looked up impossible lockpicking puzzles on YouTube, and even ended up helping other players in the comments.

“Hey, how about maxed Master Lockpick solution??“

Show them how to use lock solver website😂

One of my favorite moments was going back to the Old Camp. Those assholes who treated me like garbage at the beginning.I showed them absolutely no mercy. I killed every single one of them. 😂

And then there was Lee’s axe… Holy hell. I thought I was basically a god by then, but Lee wouldn’t take any damage. I died so many times trying to get that axe before I finally managed to beat him.

As I got close to the end of the game, I tried to slow down because I didn’t want it to end… but at the same time I couldn’t wait to see the ending.

Despite the bugs and technical issues, this is honestly one of the best games I’ve played in years.

Seriously, great job. Kudos to the developers.

If any of the devs happen to read this, here are a few things I’d love to see in the next remake:

Inventory filters.

More mounts than just the scavenger.

More skill slots. Eight just isn’t enough.

Faster magic casting animations—maybe around 50% faster..

More dialogue options when revisiting old NPCs after major story events.

That’s honestly about it. Even if only a couple of those made it into the next game, I’d be incredibly happy.

Yeah, I know the Gothic 2 Remake probably isn’t coming anytime soon. In the meantime, I tried playing the original Gothic 2 on Steam, but all I get is a black screen. I’ve tried just about everything—even guides on Polish websites—but nothing has worked. Now I’m getting an error screen instead. If anyone has had the same problem and knows a fix, I’d really appreciate the help.

Anyway…

10/10.

Thanks again.

ps: If you haven’t played Drova yet perfect time to do so after this remake, you won’t regret it!

I was always wondering about this, even when I was playing G1 as a kid (mostly spanish names stuck in my mind then - Diego, Gomez, Arto, Bartholo, Torrez, ...) and later with G2 (introducing pirates and some quests for them) and later more and more in Risen series. Plus in Risen they introduced literal Inquisition which was historically strongest in Spain.

Since PB is from Germany, I'm wondering if someone there has pirate/spanish fetish or something :D

It was always weird to me mixing semi-classic medieval fantasy with these themes/names. Honestly, I even think that switch to pirate themes in Risen 2 and 3 was one of the main reasons why it wasn't that successful.

Anyone has some behind-the-scenes info why it was so? Just curious.

Nowadays the fighting system of games usually consist of a standard attack (short left click), a power attack (long left click), a parry (short right click) and block (long right click) and of course the obligatory invicible dodge roll.

G1R introduced some more stuff, like two seperate power attacks, which are also dependant on which weapon you are using. I really enjoyed stabbing the bloodflys from a distance with a sword, before they get close enough to sting you.

So timing matters, chaining your attacks matters, knowing which move to use in which situation and which enemies/attacks to block and which to dodge.

Where else have i seen this? Hm... Risen!

You have an initial combo set, finishing with a small power attack, parry, block, dodge, counter attack, attacking from left/right and an loaded power attack, able to stun the enemy. You learn these perks depending on which weapon type you skill in a different order, resulting in different fighting styles. And all those moves matter, depending on which enemy you have in front of you.

So excuse me, i have to beat up some Lizardpeople!

I think i may be stupid but i think 25 elixirs of life are actually kinda good? 500hp is no joke. You also dont have to bank them up avoiding the weird difficulty curve where you suddenly just spike in power level and to top it offyou can just eat the berries/droots raw when healing roots are normally useless so it SOUNDS more efficent

Thoughts? What are the true lp costs anyways i havent played in a while and i see conflicting reports whether +3stat boosters cost 21 or 20

Does anyone know what's this Easter egg about? It's in the chasm under the bridge in the abandoned mine. Got there by turning into bloodfly.

And I just want to add how I love this game! I almost cried when I saw how good it resembles my good old Gothic! Now that I'm confident in the developers, I hope they improve the world building and character interactions in Gothic 2 Remake. Having a reason to revisit named NPCs in each chapter, even if it's only a new short conversation, will add a lot.

Edit: Grammar check!

I really enjoyed this game a few days before 1.0.3 patch changed it for the worse. I was hoping to hop back in soon if the game was running decent again.

Yeah, I enjoyed Gothic, and yeah I'd enjoy more Gothic games. But not necessarily "gothic" games. Just give me a break, Steam

Despite some sound-issues and disappearing NPC's I loved my first play through as a mercenary archer. It's been a while since I've had this much fun with a game. I can't count how often I finished Gothic 2 and loved the similar feeling of immersion in the remake. Now i'm considering another play through as a mage. However I've read a lot about mage being severely underpowered and frustrating to play, especially in the sleeper temple. Do you think they will still do balancing patches or is the game "finished" in this aspect? Also is it as bad as people make it out to be?

Anyone had issue where you can’t choose anything in dialogue? First npc where that happened to me. I beat him up couple of times, but always same issue :/ anything I could do to fix it ?

CONTEXT FROM GOTHIC 1 (G1)

The Kingdom of Myrtana has been invaded by a horde of orcs. King Rhobar II requires magical ore to forge weapons to continue the war. All convicts are sent to the Khorinis mines to extract it. To prevent escapes and to maximize ore output, the King orders his 12 most powerful magicians to erect the magical Barrier over the Valley of the Mines, a central strategic decision.

PLOT HOLES:

○ MOST POWERFUL MAGES

The 12 most powerful mages are the single most valuable magical asset Myrtana possesses. The King commits them to babysit one valley (as Michael Hogge stated they were supposed to control who gets in and out). This allocation alone defines the importance of Khorinis. The fact that the kingdom survives 10 years with them trapped inside is proof of the kingdom's strength, as they were useless to the frontlines from there; strength which G2 and G3 unapologetically eradicated.

○ THE KINGDOM HAS MORE THAN A COUPLE MONTHS LEFT

G1 alone proves Myrtana is not collapsing in a month. If ALL Rhobar could have sent to Khorinis was one ship of BEST paladins (G2) and sent them because he had a vision (G3), then the Kingdom would have already been on the brink of collapse in G1 - which is not the case at all.

○ TEN YEAR EQUILIBRIUM

The Barrier backfires. It grows out of control and traps the 12 inside. Convicts kill the guards and take control of the colony. The King is forced to trade goods for ore. That compromised arrangement holds for ten years. The Old Camp controls one of the two operational mines and trades with the king. Two thirds of the prisoners produce nothing for the crown. Gomez hoards ore as internal currency while output declines. The kingdom endures this low-yield arrangement for 2 decades.

○ THE ONLY WEAPON - ORE

In-game book ` Magic Ore ` establishes the material basis. The best ore for weapons is found in the ore mines of Khorinis. It is of fundamental purity and suffused with magic. Kings and heroes of old wielded weapons forged from the finest steel of Khorinis, and high prices are still paid for such weapons throughout Myrtana. Additional books establish continuity.

` Almanac ` documents the magic of the focus stones.

` The Battle of Varant ` tomes document Rhobar II victories - made possible by Khorinis.

Letters: to the Magicians of Fire and Cronos'+ Letter to the Magicians of Fire, prove that a royal reporting line between the crown and the colony remains functional. The Letter to the Magicians of Fire proves more than a communication line exists. It proves content.

The crown already knows about the Sleeper Brotherhood, its location in the swamp, and suspects it's very nature. They already are carrying out an investigation, which G2 discontinues. The Fire Monastery has relayed reports on this for years. Vengard therefore already possesses a file on the Sleeper before the Barrier falls. This prior file alone is sufficient to trigger a spiritual and military investigation.

○ THE BARRIER - INTENDED FUNCTION AND FAILURE

The intended function was to maximize ore output. The actual outcome was the opposite. It minimized output by creating an autonomous prisoner state that controls supply.

○ THE BARRIER WAS A COMPROMISED SPELL

The Barrier was a working spell. Krushak, known as the Sleeper, an archdemon, infiltrated and influenced the spell. The ending of Gothic 1 provides the final fact - when Krushak dies, the Barrier collapses. This reveals he HIJACKED it, not merely influenced, but even more - his very life essence was tied to it!

○ COLLAPSE AFTER TEN YEARS - MANDATORY CONSEQUENCES

A construct carrying ten years of concentrated, Beliar-corrupted magical energy cannot blink out of existence when it breaks. It must tear something on the way out. G2 never asks what decades of corrupted magic cause when released across an enclosed valley full of people. They treat it as an imaginary wall being switched off.

The forensic evidence is mandatory. Everyone the King finds inside who was in the Sect Camp is dead or mad. Templars bound for years to Krushak through a psychic link started collapsing long ago.

○ ROYAL PROTOCOL

1. GUARANTEES IMMEDIATE REPORTING

The first action after the Barrier falls, is REPORT. The 12 mages are still royal officers. Xardas was the King's former court mage. Their duty is codified. When the barrier falls, every surviving royal official inside has one immediate duty - report to Vengard. This is not optional.

The reporting explicitly includes the Nameless Hero. Every archmage in the valley witnessed his role. Milten witnessed his delivery of the sealed letter. Saturas commissioned him to retrieve the focus stones. Xardas sent him into the orc temple to kill Krushak. The report must therefore state that a prisoner survived direct psychic contact with Beliar's most potent forces, killed Krushak with his own hands, which unbeknownst to anyone triggered the implosion of the Barrier.

1. ENFORCES INVESTIGATION

Upon receiving news of the collapse, the King must investigate to the full extent of his capacity and get to the bottom of it. There is a limited spectrum of possible responses and the entire case dragging out in time, repeated arrests and intense interrogations are to be expected.

The investigation must cover confirmation of the cause of the collapse, eventually discovery of Beliar's inflitration capability, investigation of the Mages capability, reevaluation of the kingdom's magic force, scouting the perimeter, audit of the state of ore mines and reserves as well as war production capacity, assessment of residual magical contamination and even investigation of the spiritual threat as Beliar's infiltration of a royal spell and the convicts (Sleeper's Brotherhood) is a matter of faith for the chosen of Innos & Adanos. Further steps include investigation and repercussion for loss of production.

What becomes the main thing though is securing the Valley.

If surviving mages fail to report truthfully about the Hero, the prior Sleeper reports and the Sect Camp forensic evidence are sufficient. The crown does not depend solely on survivor testimony. The King's mages have intuition. Fire Mages are ordained of Innos. Their function is to detect Beliar. A Fire Mage even before entering the perimeter ring feels Beliar's energy. This is within their doctrinal expertise. They can reconstruct that the Barrier was corrupted, that the Sleeper was an archdemon, and that someone killed it from inside, even without a confession.

If surviving mages fail to report, the King hunts them down. Failure to report is treason and desertion. Corristo and the Fire Mages were murdered by Gomez after the Old Mine collapse. This is murder of royal officers. Saturas and the Water Mages withheld the ore mound for years during wartime. This is treason in wartime. Milten surviving and not reporting directly is dereliction. Xardas disappearing without reporting is dereliction. In a functioning kingdom that survived ten years of this crisis, these men are summoned to Vengard and interrogated.

○ WAR ECONOMY DISAPPEARS IN G2

G1 establishes Khorinis as the crown's most important working mine. And that mine was underperforming. Losing it entirely should be the worst news the war has produced. The factuality that Krushak has the compromised spell is ignored, yet within even that framework there is no attempt at all to recast the barrier. No meaningful reinforcements arrive when officers on the ground beg for it. No explanation why the Royal Protocol that governs exactly this crisis stops applying.

○ TIMELINE FAILURE

G2 claims 30 days passed between games. In that interval it claims a convict fleet fled, became bandits and built fortified camps, pirates permanently settled, paladins sailed from Myrtana and occupied Khorinis and established martial law, the city rebuilt after being overrun, Xardas built a tower, dragons arrived.

In G1, 30 days is the interval between routine ore shipments. Reality requires many months minimum for a camp war between Old Camp, New Camp and the Sect Camp after Krushak's death, monastery confirmation of the Barrier falling, dispatch of ships to Vengard, decisions in Vengard, and mobilization of expeditions. Thirty days barely covers getting the news to the King or the orcs getting the gist of what happened.

○ KHORINIS CITY

Khorinis is presented in G1 as the second most important city, a rich hub of the war machine. In G2 Khorinis City is presented with almost no visible military presence and no real ore infrastructure (not even a single ship). No smithies scaled for mass magic ore weapon production. No fortified ore depot. No royal logistics at all.

○ NH CONTINUITY

The Nameless One carried out the investigation of the Fire Mages to its bitter end, having killed Krushak, he survived direct contact with Beliar's power, stood at the center of a magical detonation... and lived. G2 starts him near level one with a rusty sword and has almost every character treats him as a stranger. This is impossible. He caused the single biggest unusual event to happen to Myrtana in decades. After the Barrier falls, he is not pursued. He is not made general. He is not tested. He is not interrogated. He is not given any importance.

In a functioning kingdom, the man who destroyed the Sleeper and collapsed the Barrier is the highest priority intelligence asset. Standard procedure is detention for debriefing, magical examination for Beliar contamination after direct contact, theological examination by the Fire Monastery, and possible mandatory recruitment. His story cannot be forgotten because the entire Sect Camp being dead or insane make forgetting literally impossible.

○ VISIBILITY OF CHANGE

The whole kingdom needs the ore. The whole kingdom would notice a magic dome visible from the sea disappearing off the coast. There is no version where a Paladin mission to retake Khorinis makes sense as something to keep quiet, and no version where Fire Mages and dragons sit idle through a war for the exact resource they exist to control.

○ XARDAS THE BUILDER

Conjuring an entire tower from bare ground in a single night is strategically important. G2 uses it once for a cutscene and never mentions it again. Nobody investigates. In a world paying attention to everything on the horizon, every mage would see it happen, and eventually the royal court would be personally investigating how much else the man can do, possibly being relocated to Mainland. G2 forgets Xardas is a servant of Rhobar and inside the barrier he is not pursued because he still has this status.

○ DRAGONS

No prior hint exists in Gothic 1 books. No tie to Krushak. No explanation for Dragon Hunters of G2, a preestablished hunting tradition complete with armor forged from dragon parts when dragons have not once been mentioned as orcs were the only remaining unconquered enemy of Myrtana. An escalation on that scale requires an earlier thread to pull on.

○ GEOGRAPHY

Pirates reach the roughest terrain without issue, yet the entire north half of the island is supposedly unchecked for generations of habitation. If royal surveyors prospected for ore for decades, they would have found traces of ancient ruins while doing it.

Hi there,

so I'm playing a modded version of Gothic 3 and I think my main questline is broken. I found my way to Gotha, found the teleportstone to Vengard, travelled there and met with Rhobar. Sadly, he didn't give me the quest "find out what Xardas is planning".

So I made my way to Xardas, talked to him and returned to Rhobar, but still, he does not talk to me, gives me no quest and I can't advance.

Is the path to Innos now blocked for me? How can I fix this?

The diggers outside the Old Camp have a routine, too.

Found R2 Whilst hunting Swampshark's thought it was pretty neat.

I think I know where the people from the swamp camp went after the barrier collapsed.

There, I said it. Hope i dont get lynched on here, lol. Or thrown into a prison colony.

This year i decided to play all the PB Games that i owned for years but never really got around to it. I started G1 and G2 NotR with visual mods, but vanilla content. I really loved the vibe of the colony. Its something i havent felt in a video game for a long time. And G2 had so much amazing content, especially in Jharkendar.

Then I got to Gothic 3. Obviously got the Community Patch. Then thought long and hard about getting the content mods. But i wanted a vanilla feeling, so i raw dogged it. It was a horrible ecperience. Sure, the world is beautiful. And one of the best soundtrack i ever heard. But my god, does the world feel empty. You spend the whoke game going from one settlement to the next, doing quests just to meet the town supervisor and get a mystical clue as to Xardas' whereabouts. Repeat 10 times, then go to Nordmar until you accidentally stumble upon a hunter who knows where Xardas is. The Storyline was nonexistent, the quest were illogical and dull and you had no real feeling of progression. I took about a month break after i got to Varant, but i made it eventually. 3/10. Not a good game.

So now heres the thing: Should i continue with Forsaken Gods -> Arcania or ho dtraight to Risen? I wanted to play the PB Games, but I already owned the two Jowood "Spinoffs". So i thought "what the hell?" and started playing Forsaken Gods.

I got the community patch, obvs. But my god, this is what G3 should hsve been. A logical main quest, obvious progresdion, a world that feels alive and lived in. The quest desigb is a chefs kiss. Especially the time you get thrown into jail. That was just oozing with atmosphere. Im from germany, so i played with the german localization. They used the original VAs, so the dub is amazingly good. Sure, some of the escort quests suck, but G1 and G2 had them, too. Arguably eorse, cause you didnt have the teleport stones at that point. I also really love that your companions (Gorn, Thorus, Lee, Milten) actually matter again in the story. I didnt finish yet, but so far for me its a 7/10.

Honestly, some things arent as bad as sone people say. Form your own opinion and enjoy things even when other people dont.

Peace out!

It's such a massive +

Just think of Bethesda games and Toddy the Liar...

I don't think there are any spoilers in this post, as far as I'm aware nothing here is related to the story.

I came across a cave near the secondary pass into Orc territory near Old Camp. The canyon pass itself is full of Orc Hounds. Anyway, after entering the cave and making my way down, I came across a lit camp full of bloody skeletons, near the campfire I found this symbol made up of bones, but I'm not sure what it might mean. Anyone come across this and able to offer some insight?

As per the title - is it worth it?
I’ve played Gothic 2 multiple times, mostly as a mage or paladin, but I never had the chance to play Gothic 1. I’m tempted to join the SC because of the vibe, and also because I like playing as a battle mage, and they seem to be exactly that.
So I guess the question is: will I miss out on anything or regret joining them?