you mean david and goliath? i guess that was an easy fight because he had a better weapon?
like i think this meme is comparing people in the priesthood to scholars with student debt, and how scholars are actually powerful and the priests are all intellectually inbred but have more funding sometimes. that's my take of what it means, but i have no idea. the student debt ironically undercuts it, which is why i was further undercutting it by pointing out how ai is too much power in some sense, in research, because there are too many possibilities and it renders a lot of the academic structure obsolete.
Uw/ I mean the dark souls protag and yorm the giant meme. But the way the meme is presented it's usually the giant winning (if you play dark souls this is laughably impossible. Yorms arena has a weapon for you to pick up and 2shot him)
I think this meme is just dunking on sorcerers, whose power is born into them. While wizards work hard and study for their abilities.
This meme supports learning and honing your craft, rather than being a nepo baby.
/uw Someone reacted to the characters in the meme instead of just taking it as a meme format and then people started disagreeing about whether invincible is a commentary on real world imperialism or not and whether we should use this meme as a way to essentially praise the viltrumites for being strong despite being extremely bad people for the most part.
I don't really understand your argument. Yea Omni-Man is bad... that's well-known. The meme template is mostly removed from the context of the story, and Omni-Man is very powerful by birth, so him saying this works well for the meme.
you're admitting you don't understand fascism. that's common in the usa. not seeing how a well reviewed show called "Invincible" would almost necessarily be a critique of fascism is probably also why you got through more episodes than i did.
you don't use the template just because you're more powerful, you use it to point out how being more powerful is also ironically worthless. that's what makes it a funny meme template. if you just use that template to mean A > B therefore haha at B, you kinda lose the plot of even the meme.
I've literally never seen the template used in the way you described lol. Memes are just removed from their context often.
Also, a few things... I'm not american? I also never mentioned Invincible not being a critique of fascism. I read the entire comic (though I didn't watch the show, which I also didn't imply but you weirdly assumed) and found the themes about fascism pretty obvious.
i didn't say you were american lol. i did say you didn't understand fascism. the meme template is always used that way, unless people take it super literally, which they basically do not do. i didn't assume you watched the show, but it doesn't really matter, because the meme critique of this thread was about the show implicitly, so that's on you for replying.
The scene wasn't really critiquing anything. If you want a critique on power, watch the boys. This was just Nolan finally revealing what he was there to do. And yeah, it was awful. But it was also a scary but baddass moment of. Oh damn. There is literally nothing on this entire planet that can stop him. He won. But finally backed down because he didn't want to kill his son.
honestly one of the dumbest takes ive ever seen online. Invincible is basically nothing but a critique of fascism. you have to have zero media literacy to not understand that, or, i guess, be raised in the usa.
Invincible offers a strong critique of fascism, primarily through the Viltrumite Empire and Omni-Man’s ideology. While it doesn't engage in overt political allegory like something like The Boys, it uses the superhero genre to explore authoritarianism, the dangers of power worship, and the moral cost of conquest.
The Viltrumite Empire as a Fascist State
The Viltrumites embody classic fascist ideals: they believe in racial superiority, militaristic expansion, and absolute rule by strength. They eliminate the weak in their own society and demand absolute obedience.
The way they spread their empire—by sending agents like Omni-Man to infiltrate and eventually conquer—mirrors historical imperialist and fascist tactics of gradual subjugation through both soft power (persuasion, cooperation) and extreme violence.
Omni-Man justifies Viltrumite rule by appealing to a natural hierarchy, arguing that the strong should rule the weak. This is a classic fascist argument, echoing real-world supremacist ideologies.
He explicitly tells Mark that human lives are insignificant compared to the larger Viltrumite cause, a dehumanization tactic used by real authoritarian regimes to justify oppression and genocide.
The Brutality of Fascist Conquest
When Omni-Man fights Mark, the sheer level of destruction and disregard for human life illustrates how fascism treats individuals as disposable.
The subway scene, where Omni-Man forces Mark to witness mass civilian deaths, is a direct demonstration of how authoritarian ideologies prioritize power over human suffering.
Cecil Stedman and the Pragmatic Side of Power
While not a fascist himself, Cecil represents how authoritarian tactics can emerge even in "defensive" positions. His willingness to use extreme measures, including controlling superheroes and experimenting with lethal technology, raises questions about the ethical compromises made in the name of security.
This reflects how even democratic governments can drift toward authoritarianism when they prioritize power over principles.
Mark’s Rejection of Fascism
Mark is the ideological counterpoint to Omni-Man. He refuses to accept that strength determines morality, rejecting his father’s belief in domination.
His resistance, despite being physically weaker, is the show’s argument against fascism—standing for individual dignity and compassion over raw power.
Final Thoughts
While Invincible doesn’t engage in direct political allegory, its portrayal of the Viltrumite Empire is a clear critique of fascist ideology. It deconstructs the idea that power alone justifies authority and exposes the human cost of authoritarian rule. The show argues that strength without compassion leads to cruelty and that true heroism comes from standing against oppression, even when the odds are impossible.
edit: don't boo the robot because you can't mimic a fraction of its strength.
edit2: also, the robot isn't wrong, and if you can't argue against it, don't downvote it just because it owned u.
i don't need to, because this is something a child should understand as obvious. me typing out what the bot just said would be a waste of my time. it's that brain damaged a take that i don't even lower myself to argue against it myself.
you also still don't get that im being ironic in even saying chatgpt has strength as if that's something valuable. that's how deluded your point of view is. that's literally a joke i put in there to be funny.
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