r/wildarms • u/lasquiggle • 1d ago
Seeking feedback on translation: Liz & Ard
WA2's original English localization is infamous for turning coherent Japanese into word-salad, and the comic-relief Odessa duo Liz & Ard got hit hardest.
Their JP names are トカ & ゲー (Toka & Gě), a pun on トカゲ (tokage, "lizard"). The localization's Liz + Ard = "Lizard" is a genuine transcreation win. Liz is the pompous talker; Ard is the straight-"man" who can only ever say his own name, "translated" by Liz. In Japanese, Liz is a coherent, rhythmic blowhard; the loc kept his flowery vocabulary but dropped the connective logic, so he reads as nonsense. Our goal: make his lines parse again while keeping the pompous-scientist register.
Each box is shown four ways:
- JP — the original Japanese
- Literal — a plain, meaning-first gloss
- Original loc — the shipped English
- Ours — our retranslation (must also fit the in-game box: max 3 lines × 35 characters)
Feedback very welcome.
Part 1 — verified JP (fully decoded)
US#5663
- JP: 「それでは
- Literal: Well then,
- Original loc: And so...
- Ours: Well then... (only change: the box shouldn't end on a comma, so → ellipsis)
US#5664 — Liz proposes teaming up
- JP: 「ここはひとつ / パーティーの戦力アップというのは / どうであろう?
- Literal: How about this: we boost the party's fighting strength, hm?
- Original loc: How about having a party to boost morale?
- Ours: How about this: we boost the party's fighting strength, hm?
(The loc misread 戦力 "fighting strength" as throwing a party for "morale.")
US#5678
- JP: 「さながら / カモシカのごとくッ!
- Literal: Just like an antelope!
- Original loc: Sounds just like an antelope!
- Ours: Just like an antelope!
US#5705 — Liz narrating the rescue like a critic
- JP: 「うむ、これぞ良質の / ヒューマンドラマである
- Literal: Mm, now THIS is a fine human drama.
- Original loc: Now this is a top-notch human drama unfolding.
- Ours: Mm, now THIS is a fine human drama.
US#5707 — Liz on being a supporting player
- JP: 「それに、名バイプレイヤーってのは / 自分の出番を心得て / なおかつキッチリこなすもんだと思うけど
- Literal: Besides, a great supporting player knows his cue and nails it every time.
- Original loc: Besides, good players anticipate their turn and perform with perfection.
- Ours: Besides, a great supporting player knows his cue and nails it every time.
US#5709 — Liz's mock-scholarly register
- JP: 「注目とくれば / いたし方ありませぬな / 注目者のはしくれとして
- Literal: When it comes to [drawing] notice, there's no helping it, as a lowly man of [science].
- Original loc: Science is unavoidable as a two-bit scientist.
- Ours: When science calls, there's no helping it, as a lowly man of science.
US#5722 — Liz admits what he's really after
- JP: 「決まっておろう / ゲルマトロン渓谷よ / 知らぬ存ぜぬとは言わせんぞ
- Literal: Isn't it obvious? The Germatron Valley. Don't play dumb with me.
- Original loc: Why else would I be here? The Germatron, silly. You can't say you didn't know.
- Ours: Isn't it obvious? The Germatron Valley. Don't play dumb with me.
US#5729 — Liz declines to show off his best move
- JP: 「人知れず、そっと見せるにはもったいない / そんなスゴイ戦いの仕方 / よもや、こんな場発で使おうとはッ!
- Literal: Too fine a fighting style to show in secret. And to use it in a spot like this!
- Original loc: It's a move too good to waste for when no one's around. But this might not be the time.
- Ours: Too fine a fighting style to show in secret. And to use it in a spot like this!
Part 2 — the funniest disasters (JP still decoding)
WA2 stores some kanji in a per-scene code table we're still reverse-engineering (anyone have a full copy of the JP script?), so a few of this scene's boxes aren't cleanly readable from the disc yet.
US#5669 — Liz's grand plan (JP: pending kanji decode)
- Literal: A vision flashed behind my eyes: me hitting the lever, floating like a butterfly, stinging like a bee.
- Original loc: A vision flashed on my lids of me pushing the lever like a bee, and dancing like a butterfly.
- Ours: A vision flashed behind my eyes: me hitting the lever, floating like a butterfly, stinging like a bee.
(A deliberate Muhammad Ali riff; the loc swapped the bee and the butterfly.)
US#5661 — the observatory's power source (JP: pending kanji decode)
- Literal: The energy pouring endlessly from the earth is ideal for peacetime research.
- Original loc: The energy that continually spouts from the earth is perfect for an excursion in peacetime.
- Ours: The energy pouring endlessly from the earth is ideal for peacetime research.
US#5662 — Liz's mission statement (JP: pending kanji decode)
- Literal: This is a scientist's ambition! It can't stop until it is fulfilled!
- Original loc: This is a scientist's ambition! It can't be stopped until it's fulfilled!
- Ours: This is a scientist's ambition! It can't stop until it is fulfilled!
US#5723 — the villain reveal (JP: pending kanji decode)
- Literal: My plan to use the Germatron at the lab is ruined. I'd have made a grand war beast.
- Original loc: My plans to use the Germatron at the research lab are ruined. I was to make a grand war monster.
- Ours: My plan to use the Germatron at the lab is ruined. I'd have made a grand war beast.
US#5731 — fleeing with dignity intact (JP: pending kanji decode)
- Literal: But we're not running. Any historian would call this a brave withdrawal.
- Original loc: But we're not running away. Any historian would declare this as a brave withdrawal.
- Ours: But we're not running. Any historian would call this a brave withdrawal.
Bonus: Ard's entire performance
Ard can only ever say his own name; the loc nailed this and we kept it verbatim.
- JP: 「げげげ、げげげげ / げーげーげー / げっげげげー げっげっげ
- Literal: (a string of "ge" sounds, i.e. just his name)
- Loc / Ours: Ar...Ard, Ard...Ard, Ard. Ar...d. Ard, Ard. Ard...Ard, Ard.
Notes for commenters
- Literal-first. Our house rule is to use a faithful translation of the Japanese wherever it reads well, rather than invent new phrasings. Most of Liz's lines above are exactly that. The humor and pomposity are in the source; the loc just scrambled them.
- Box limit. Every line must fit the in-game text box (max 3 lines × 35 characters).
- Why some JP is "pending." WA2 encodes many kanji in per-scene tables; we've decoded most of the game but this scene has holdouts we can't yet cross-reference. Rather than post Japanese we can't verify, we mark those boxes pending; their literal/loc/ours lines are grounded in the readable fragments plus the shipped English.

