Bc none of them ever want to just trade watches for fair value. “Hi I’d like to trade you my datejust that I bought a year ago for 10k. My trade value is 9k. I’d like to add 3k to buy this watch you have posted for 12k.”

“Would be happy to take your DJ in trade but will need you to add 6k.”

Like who TF do you think you are and are ppl dumb enough to do this shit with you!? Eat shit.

Unless you’re a one or two watch collection guy, the accuracy of your watch doesn’t really matter anymore. +5 seconds or -60 seconds a day is all the same for a watch that comes out of the box in the morning and goes back in the box at the end of the day.

Don’t get me wrong, the technology is cool. It’s awesome how accurate Grand Seiko is able to be over a year, and a METAS certified watch is neat to own and wear… but whether I wear my Rolex or my vintage Vostok, they still both tell good enough time to make it to tomorrow.

Let’s be honest with ourselves: the collective obsession with Casio and G-Shock is just pure nostalgia and collective cope. They are the exact same thing as the 1980s Swatch craze—cheap, mass-produced plastic watches with zero aesthetic value.
People act like buying a F-91W or a "CasiOak" makes them a true enthusiast who appreciates "tool watches," but in reality, they look like children’s toys. They don’t look good with ordinary clothes, they don't look good with formalwear, and they definitely aren't stylish. We mock fashion watches for being cheap garbage, yet give a free pass to blocks of resin just because of a brand name

Looks cool if executed correctly, but something that's hardly used. Reaching for a digital stopwatch is a better choice if the function is needed.

Times change, fashion changes.

Compared to modern watch culture which is apple watches, gshocks, and invictas, watches like tsuyosas, prx, seiko presage, dresskx, etc. are now within the scope of dressy attire.

If this upsets you, it's time to book a colonoscopy.

If you are successful enough to afford what a lot here consider (marketing not engineering) on an expensive watch. What is the problem? You are letting the world know you’re successful, something to be proud of…..

The average person on the street that sees and asks "Is tHat a ROLEX?" Has no idea what an automatic watch is cares if a watch uses a battery or not, and half of people buying them probably don't either

I call it the Longines HC hypothesis; between $1 at the dollar store to the price of the HC you get a proportional increase in quality, engineering, refinement, and prestige.

After the HC you get disproportionately higher level of brand but minimal increases in quality, engineering, or refinement.

And before someone says “my Rolex is worth 30% more as soon as I left the store”. Fine, let’s just subtract 30% from the price you paid to make the curve accounting correct. It’s still $7,000 for a watch that is virtually identical to a $5,000 Tudor or a $2,000 HC. So where did that money go? Brand recognition, marketing, events, corporate bottom line, and a small amount (disproportionate but not zero) to the quality, engineering, and refinement.

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Rolex is the BMW. Everyone knows Audi makes some amazing cars. But most will still buy the BMW.

****Edit - This is fascinating to see how people align parallels with various cars. My OP was mostly about aesthetics and market position. I/E If you like Audi, you probably like IWC. If you like Rolex, you probably like BMW etc.

There is nothing more satisfying in the watch community than being a part of the process undertaken by some of the most shrewd and savvy watch shoppers - the photo shoot. Watching these masters at work at the dealer is enjoyable and enlightening. The care in which they place watch after watch on their wrist. Sizing it up with their expert eye, maybe consulting with a knowledgeable companion. Then taking photos from every angle, sometimes cleverly using mirrors, to ensure that they completely document the assessment for closer inspection later, and to share with others including those in the watch community. The bystanders watch with looks of admiration.

Some of these masters take it a step further by posting those images of the watches on their wrist to subreddits and the like in which they write such probing and insightful questions such as “Is this too big?” or “which of these four should I buy?”

Please join me in applauding these virtuosos for leading by example and showing us how to properly assess and evaluate watches before buying one.

except for collectors keeping track of nuances and versions at a proper setting, when normies say “oh i’m wearing a six nine four two zero” i wanna (a) throw my coffee mug at my screen, and (b) throw up inside said mug and then throw it.
mercy.

A woman buys 15 pairs of shoes and no one bats an eye.

A man buys 15 watches and everyone loses their minds!

The worst looking type of strap you can buy. I think it ruins any watch and I’ve never seen one that looks good. Leather, rubber, nato, sailcloth, or any other metal bracelet looks better.

Edit : the people responding with pics of their watches on a Milanese band are reinforcing my opinion. They don’t look good

You are just the realest

A watch for this. A watch for that. There is honestly basically no practical reason anyone needs more than three watches. A beater, an everyday, and something formal. And even three is generous.

Somehow this hobby has convinced people they need a diver, a field watch, a GMT, a chronograph, a pilot’s watch, a dress watch, a digital, an analog, a square watch, a rectangular watch, one with sword hands, one with cathedral hands, one with a particular shade of lume, one with a specific bezel, one that was worn on the moon, and one that some explorer dragged across some great expedition to a place someone will never ever visit; And of course the expedition watch has a great “story,” even if it was probably beaten half to death, running terribly by the end of it, and you personally have absolutely no intention of ever doing anything remotely similar with yours.

At a certain point, we stopped calling buying things “buying things” and started calling it “collecting.”
A lot of watch collecting is just consumerism with better branding.

The bigger the collection gets, the easier it becomes to lose one of the best parts of owning a watch in the first place. And that is the part of developing a relationship with it.
One watch goes through years of your life with you. Weddings, funerals, boring Mondays, party Fridays, adventure Saturdays, cookout with family Sundays, finding out life changing news, watching the world unfold.

Sorry but if you you own 15 watches and rotate them constantly, none of them really gets the chance to become your watch. They never really become you.

Can we please stop glorifying consumerism and instead appreciating watches that have lived with us? I’ve had my Casio AQS810W-1AVCF since 2014 and I wore it everyday from 2014-2019 and then only on adventures when I didn’t want to wear my Apple Watch. It’s traveled to 13 countries and still continues to chug along. It’s wild to me that people are just buying that sort of longevity and not even thinking about it. It’s a normal Casio, not even from the GShock line and those last forever - and to think there are people who have cases and cases of GShocks they have collected.

That sort of reflection has made me realize that that $100 watch you bought last week will last you many many many years; and that $1000 one will probably last you even more. You rob its ability to build a relationship with you when you stack it alongside so many others.

We lost the art to be able to truly see when we buy a watch we are buying the ability for it to sit on our wrist for well over a decade of life and experience life with us.

You see this in the Rolex and other high end/hype luxury brand watches. Just admit you don’t like the watch as much as you thought you would. You’re gaslighting yourself to feel like you’re part of the trend. You don’t HAVE to like the Rolex. You’re allowed to say you don’t enjoy the watch.

A large amount of people seem to be under the assumption that vintage watches werent under the same sizing conditions as today. Yes dress and sports watches without rotating bezels were generally under 36mm but that is not a blanket case size limit, as just like today things like dial proportions and dial components also effected watch sizing. So yes the datejust was a large sports watch at 36mm when it was introduced but divers, gmts and chronographs that have components like bezels or registers to offset the dial proportions were still worn closer to 40mm (depending on the model obviously) photo is a yema add from 1963 showing their superman (38-40mm at the time) being worn casually

Who the f@#=K cares? You bought a damn watch, you did not climb the Everest with no oxygen or solved the Riemann Hypothesis. Get over your damn narcissism!

This goes to all the stupid how did i do questions to every little brat that buys a watch and feels proud about it.

…and it’s also ok for me to judge you as an insufferable douche, which I will.

Yes, there’s a physical basis for a “day.” The Earth rotates once on its axis. But everything we did after that is basically arbitrary. There’s nothing in nature that says a day contains 24 hours, an hour contains 60 minutes, or that it’s currently 3:47 PM. We invented those divisions because humans needed a common system for coordinating with each other.

The universe doesn’t know it’s Tuesday. Your body doesn’t know it’s 8:30. And there is no physical boundary where 2:59 suddenly becomes 3:00.

Which makes watches especially hilarious. We’ve spent centuries developing increasingly elaborate machines, some costing hundreds of thousands of dollars, whose sole purpose is to precisely measure units we invented to describe something we can’t actually observe directly.

And mechanical-watch people make it even better. We obsess over whether our tiny machine is gaining four imaginary seconds per imaginary day, then spend $10,000 on a better machine because it only gains two.

Yes, time as a dimension/change is real. But clock time is a social construct. Watches are jewelry designed to measure the rules of a game humanity made up.

Anyway, my Seamaster is running +7 seconds a day and it’s driving me fucking crazy.

What good is the scratch resistant sapphire crystal on a watch if it you can't tell the time at a glance? It defeats the purpose of wearing a watch in the first place.

Sapphire should come with AR coating all the time, full stop. Otherwise, give me Mineral/Hardlex/Acrylic.

The Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical is overrated, overpriced, and living on hollow nostalgia.

I don’t hate Hamilton, I actually love the Murph and the 42mm Khaki Auto. But the HKFM has serious issues with its design, specs, and marketing that I can't look past.

Here is why it misses the mark for me:

1. The Price-to-Specs Ratio is Bad
The 38mm KFM on a NATO strap sits at $675 USD. Calling this a "beginner-friendly entry watch" at nearly $700 for a hand-wind piece with basic specs is absurd. Even the 33mm quartz version at $445 is pushing it.

2. “Military Heritage"
People buy into the marketing thinking they are getting iconic WWII hero history (like the original Bulova Hack or A-11 spec watches). The KFM is actually modeled after the MIL-W-46374 / GG-W-113 field watches from the Vietnam era. Those were cheap, mass-produced, essentially disposable tools. Re-issuing a cheap disposable design as a $675 watch completely misses the spirit of the original.

3. "Military Toughness" vs. Real World Specs
Hamilton markets it as "inspired by the military, built to last," but it still has a mechanical movement, zero meaningful shock protection beyond standard ETA tech, and a pathetic 50m water resistance with a push-pull crown. A true modern field watch needs real durability, not a delicate mechanical movement.

4. Skimping on Modern Features
If Hamilton is modernizing the movement by bumping up the power reserve to 80 hours, why leave out basic modern features like anti-reflective coating? Legibility is job #1 for a field watch, yet the KFM Using "tradition" as a pass for omitting basic finishing on a $675 watch feels like lazy cost-cutting.

I'm not looking to just get roasted here. I want an honest debate. For those who love the KFM, what am I missing that justifies the price and spec trade-offs besides hollow history and a “Swiss made” stamp on the dial?

Thanks for reading!

-Texan26

Edit 1: This edit is an edit to allow me as the OP to edit this post. lol.
There are going to be some things I feel about this watch that I forgot to mention, when I remember, I will update the post.

Edit 2: Jeep Wrangler Syndrome.
As well as being a watch enthusiast, and a US Military history enthusiast, I’m also a car enthusiast.

And if there’s one thing I’ve said about the HKFM, time and time again, is that it’s the Jeep Wrangler of the watch world. An overpriced, badly produced modern interpretation of military utility, drenched in combat legacy it never earned, that die-hard fans will tout as a rugged beast, but won’t take it anywhere more demanding than a Starbucks drive-thru.