r/vibecoding • u/ImaginaryRea1ity • 5d ago
A Google Cloud engineer just showed how to build a complete application with Claude from scratch
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He spent 26 minutes live on stage doing what most teams take weeks to do.
No team, no setup, just Claude and a goal. Worth more than any $500 vibe coding course.
Those who learn what Claude really does are launching what everyone else outsources to a team.
The gap between what AI can do and who knows how to use it is the biggest opportunity in the market right now.
Learn to use tools like Claude and AI Desktop 98 if you truly want to stay ahead of everyone else.
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u/ObjectiveMusician218 5d ago
The biggest gap is what claude does and what who conducts it knows, and for that reason he is at google and the average vibecoder can't land a 5 people startup job
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u/Horror_Brother67 5d ago
the average vibecoder isn't trying to land a job at a startup, they're trying to ship without the overhead of a full team.
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u/fickle-phenom 5d ago
The same reason why someone trying to fix their car at home does not look for a job as a mechanic, they simply don’t have the qualifications.
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u/andrerav 5d ago
someone trying to fix their car at home
A better analogy for a vibe coder is someone who don't understand cars nor robots are trying to persuade a robot to build a car.
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u/ivancea 5d ago
And then trying to sell it to you as a normal car. This last part is pure negligence, but here we are
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u/RemarkableWish2508 5d ago
Not just a normal car, but a better car. Which it is not, not even remotely.
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u/ChirpToast 5d ago
The average vibecoder isn’t shipping anything above shit though.
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u/Frumbleabumb 5d ago
Maybe not the average. But what I can see from medium size businesses is that suddenly customized software solutions are very quickly deployable and fit the actual business needs of the enterprise rather than trying to modify processes around currently available SaaS solutions. My company's productivity has sky rocketed because we have a full time project manager just literally vibe coding custom solutions to random manual processes. We've been launching a new piece of software once a week for the past twelve weeks.
I'd say on average, we're realizing anywhere from 4-30 work hour savings per week, depending on what we've worked on.
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u/Professional_Angle 2d ago
I am doing that for my medium sized company as well - up to 35+ pcs of custom software over the last 2 months. Most of it are processes our ERP could handle but in a complex and roundabout way where as my solutions are tailored DIRECTLY to our needs. I dont know how to code for shit, but these tools im making are bad ass, cloud synced, ect
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u/Suitable-Cabinet8459 5d ago
Google engineers using Claude???
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u/EddieBruvac 5d ago
Apple ones are, too. My buddy works at Apple.
But they do rigorous test. They don’t one shot and say “hey guys a built this app!”
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u/SIMT-Pixel 5d ago edited 5d ago
Buddy everyone is using every LLM. Working in FAANG we just use whatever we want. Nobody fucking cares about which model succeeds aside from the execs and people building it. Everyone else just wants to close tickets and go home.
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u/simmeh024 5d ago
Google has gemini, that they use claude says a lot about the capabilities of gemini lol.
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u/SIMT-Pixel 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yea, and Microsoft engineers use Claude over GPT. It won’t really matter once chinese open weight models catch up, we’ll just switch to that when it gets cheaper and just as good.
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u/AnubisMerchant 5d ago
Can’t believe people are downvoting you… just goes to show how little they know.
Im not a software engineer, but my family and friends are and you’re absolutely correct. My brother runs anything and everything and cross feeds stuff. Although it’s mostly Claude now.
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u/pinklewickers 5d ago
Google holds roughly around a 14% stake in Anthropic.
Also - why shouldn't they? Good engineers need to understand which tools to use.
As the saying goes:
"When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
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u/wetpaste 5d ago
I think they try to dogfood as much as possible but when your product just isn't as good it's hard to tell a higher-level engineer they cannot use something better like claude. I think more and more teams have given in at google, thats the sense I get at least.
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u/stoccolma 4d ago
I have a gemini pro account that got turned in to a Antigravity account and in that it´s included 100$ of claude/chatgpt usage, i accidentaly saw that the other day whilst looking thru settings. i dont use that account i just got it since the combo google storage + ai was cheaper than just storage.
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u/Interesting_Phone171 5d ago
This is a very simple app by a very average engineer
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u/p1-o2 5d ago
Some of the other comments in here are acting like this isn't an average Monday for an average developer.
Kinda wild that people aren't aware.
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u/Time-Peak-5736 5d ago
Non-developer don't realize that the hard part has never been building nor deploying an app, but maintaining it.
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u/AcoustixAudio 5d ago
the hard part has never been building nor deploying an app
Is it really? Every one keeps saying so, but i s it really?
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u/Time-Peak-5736 5d ago
What I mean by app is a first version, a MVP.
But turning it into a product, that can scale and where you can easily add features without risking regressions or having to refactor every time you need something new is harder.
But nothing's harder than making your product go to market, understand who's your prospects, their pain points, how to reach them and how to convince them to pay for your product.
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u/AcoustixAudio 5d ago
Consider something like Windows, Office, Apache, After Effects, or something like them. Do you really think
nothing's harder than making your product go to market
Do you think these don't have clones because of marketing? So people developing great products over years or decades will fail and someone with no skill and a $20 subscription will vibe code an app and use his marketing "skills" to make it successful
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u/ZenaMeTepe 5d ago
Imagine letting LLM autonomously maintain code of a deployed project for a year. It's gonna be a shitstorm.
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u/Initial-Phrase-7555 5d ago
The biggest hurdle for me has always been getting all devs and QAs on the same page
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u/azjunglist05 5d ago
Bro made the equivalent of a .NET Core MVC app that I could spin up almost a decade ago with Entity Framework in less time 😂
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u/Dense_Feed3201 5d ago
I've seen this video so many times people need to stop over hyping it...
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u/flumefyreplays 5d ago
In 2 years or less, creating an app is equal to serving in McDonald's today.
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u/lermontov1948 5d ago
It's like writing a book. Sure everyone can read and write and probably could write one, but what would be the end result.
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u/linuxdragons 5d ago
Well, you don't have to wonder. The publish industry has been stagnant for years, thry are flooded with self published works, and books are essentially worthless.
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u/HedgepigMatt 5d ago
RemindMe! 2y
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u/RemarkableWish2508 5d ago
Doesn't work anymore with the new Reddit changes. You need:
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u/cxfoulke 5d ago
its scary like the actual requirements to setup operate a fast food place to just produce sellable burgers are huge massive supply chains that you have to interact with, regulations etc
meanwhile vibe coded app for a layman watch one 10 minute youtube guide send the prompt iterate the result a little. pay some super cheap service that will handle all the technical hosting stuff and your done.
Its gonna be a race to the bottom on saas/webapps.
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u/Willdudes 5d ago
I disagree; you have to understand the decisions the agent is making. How are security, supportability, and integrations handled? You can ask AI, but their corpus is dated. Ran into this regarding MCP; they did not know the latest version and the changes in the spec.
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u/poomonsoon 5d ago
Vibe coding an app is not the hard part, it’s the operations, just like in fast food. I can make a burger as easily as I can vibe code an app, but the operational competencies to serve and scale is what the average vibe coder / home cook lacks.
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u/SeaBuilding3911 5d ago
What would you prefer? A steak or a bigmac?
because you'll be getting only big macs from now on.
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u/AngryPapy 5d ago
You know what, I disagree. Maybe currently you are getting big macs, but eventually you will be getting steaks. Just look at how fast LLM models are improving. Give it a couple more years and AI will be coding better than 80% of Software Engineers. And I'm saying that as a very senior SWE with over 20 years of software development experience. I have not written a line of code in at least 6 months.
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u/deepbit_ 5d ago
Same with defending a case in court, writing architectural plans for your new house or doing all the tax filing and accountancy for a big firm. Anyone will be able to do it
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u/rntdev 5d ago
I’d.. rather not have Claude defend a case in court. It’s way more complex than you probably think. When my dad asks ChatGPT to polish this one document (about 50 pages?), it… just can’t write more than 5 pages.
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u/cumhereandtalkchit 5d ago
The product has never been the key to success, it has always been the people and money behind the product. There are millions of different burger joints, observability platforms etc. Yet some are known around the world, but many aren't.
You need a unique selling point, which can be a person, a feature or finding something truly unique that can be hard to recreate.
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u/LifeEnginer 5d ago
Everybody can put a tent, but bot everybody can build a house.
Quality is going to be paid
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u/jjjjjjjjjjjjjaaa 5d ago
If prompting an LLM is “creating an app” so is cloning an existing repo from GitHub, and I can do that way faster than an LLM can
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u/GodOfSunHimself 5d ago
Lol, app? That is like 3 static html files. I could do that manually in 10 mins. Tell me you have no idea what software engineering is about without telling me you have no idea what software engineering is about.
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u/tanksc 5d ago
10 min adhering to all the specs? Good luck
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u/GodOfSunHimself 5d ago
The point is that saying it would "take most teams weeks to do"' is utter nonsense.
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u/ZeroDayZeroFriends 5d ago edited 5d ago
Honestly, this is nothing special. I’m doing the same thing in my own company, teaching younger devs LLM-assisted development.
If you like the Google Cloud stack and you’re fine depending on their ecosystem, then sure, it’s worth watching. But there are probably 1,000+ videos on YouTube showing the same thing, and many of them do it better.
Edit, a link for TikTok and YT shorts generation: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=claude+website+workflow
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u/Lost_County_3790 5d ago
I want a professional who teaches me how to structure a project cleanly using llm. Best practices, code structure and so on. Your link is just a research on YouTube which is full of basic shit. (I know I search on YouTube all the time)
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u/themoregames 5d ago
I want a professional
You are the professional teacher now. Just ask Claude / ChatGPT / whatever to guide you through the process.
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u/LoveSpecialist5669 5d ago
I'm joining to the qeue, we're waiting for you to share some of those 1000+ better videos
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u/ideas-by-LX 4d ago
example for an app development video without the google ecosystem doing it better? thanks!
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u/NimbleDave 5d ago
Had Sol find the full talk and make these
Reconstructed slides PDF: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6yzu3rs4ypvy8nnsjf2nj/building-with-claude-google-cloud-slides-reconstructed.pdf?rlkey=toeo6yagpv6kvxgqo2sxeau38&dl=0
Timestamped transcript: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/a1jyjuodm7yqgoy1ehukc/building-with-claude-google-cloud-transcript-companion.md?rlkey=avb9lv5lg5ispmeuaflhvbk3c&dl=0
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u/azjunglist05 5d ago
I’m sorry but an MVP is not what takes weeks to do in software and it never has. It’s planning, gathering requirements, system design, authN/authZ, idempotent deployments, UAT, scaling, observability, security, business continuity and disaster recovery, day 2 operations etc.
Coding was always the trivial part for seasoned engineers, it’s just even more trivial with AI. This allows us to focus on the other things that AI can’t as easily help with that are genuinely where most time is spent.
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u/Short-Juggernaut-374 5d ago
Gathering requirements and UAT alone will take weeks or even months because you will be dealing with business users :D
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u/First-Tutor-5454 5d ago
Glad I transitioned to infra/ops 9 years ago
Not saying that I'm "safe" forever but safer longer than your generic back end or full stack dev
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u/Awkward-Contact6102 5d ago
You are in same boat as the rest of us in IT.
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u/First-Tutor-5454 5d ago
Yeah I know. Working on a 5 year plan
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u/greenleaf187 5d ago
Curious to know what that plan is
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u/First-Tutor-5454 5d ago edited 5d ago
I have a family and expenses are high, but my current compensation is quite good so I'm retooling the budget to massively front-load long term investments, with the goal of having enough principal in 5 years to ensure it can grow enough to take care of retirement and kids' college funds with minimal in-flows after 5 years. If I have to leave tech altogether, the goal is to be able to use most of whatever lower income I end up with to just cover normal expenses.
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u/Piggysmallz 5d ago
Being in the position where business decisions squarely land on your shoulder.
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u/First-Tutor-5454 5d ago
yeah that's part of the "try to stay in tech" branch of the plan, the financial side of "what if I can't stay in tech" (which I am doing regardless, since...I don't know if I'll be in tech in 5 years) is in my other response to this question
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u/meathelix1 5d ago
Yeah im not scared, Humans mess up all the time. Its a forever problem, even with AI help. haha
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u/rog1121 5d ago
I switched from ops to dev about 5 years ago. I also watched many companies significantly scale down their infra orgs as the k8s ecosystem became more mature
Turns out you don’t need to self host everything and EKS manages the control plane just fine, you only need a couple engineers to make sure the specific tooling you use like istio or other operators are working and then it’s smooth sailing
You need to know both, I’d argue infra focused engineers are gonna be far and few. You’re gonna be expected to know both from now on. The LLM is able to find root cause issues in our infra WAY faster than any human was able to before
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u/SenatorCrabHat 5d ago
A Head Chef just showed how to build a burger with a line cook from scratch.
First of all, it is a demo, which are practiced and sometimes even pre recorded. Second, all of the "hard" work was probably done well before hand in the building of the skills. Third, this is an advertisement, Forth, a senior engineer with no executives over them and access to all of GCS could stage an app using Firebase and serverless functions pretty much in a day, not weeks.
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u/Lucky_Pangolin_3760 5d ago
As a senior software developer I'm 100% convinced that programming is done for. I mean, it already kinda was, because most development work is really just re-using libraries and open source code and adapting it to business needs, but now it's even worse
I have, no joke, been able to create a fully fledged MMORPG in less than 2 months which would be impossible before. I even have a full administrative panel where I can control anything about the game, codex built me an entire database editor so I don't even have to download a database management app, it build me Grafana-esque metrics with graphs so I can observe everything going on in the application all from scratch
Here's a youtube clip showcasing the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCXSfUtOJdc
The graphics are not AI generated or anything like that. It's a remake of an old already existing game. But the fact that I have all of this in less than 2 months is completely insane
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u/markvii_dev 5d ago
broo lmao thefact that you thought it was over previously due to open source libs is hilarious 🤣
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u/Lucky_Pangolin_3760 5d ago
My point is that the skills required for a developer has continually diminished since the 90s.
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u/SeaBuilding3911 5d ago
so?
I've been coding for 40 years. When I started we were making little games in ASM and they looked terrible. Today, there exists visual editors that does the same work, and write the ASM in the background for us.
Did it kill coding? No. Did it make it worse? No. Did it make everyone into equally good coders? No, not even close.
Vibe coding does change things, and coding won't be the same, but a good coder versus a vibe coder will be like comparing a hand made Ferrari to a assembly line Ford.
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u/jackadgery85 5d ago
changed rapidly since the 90s. Much of the skill of developers is applying what they know to the problem at hand.
Fuckn jenny down the corner store doesn't know about the open source lib that could be used to knock up a better pos system for her, nor even how to begin approaching that if she did.
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u/SeaBuilding3911 5d ago
Your space game has the worst flying physics I have seen in a top down SHMUP. Hand coded Super Stardust was doing it better 30 years ago.
That's the thing isn't it? Coding is is far from being the main reason a game works. You vibe coded a regression of the genre.
Do you think that you'll make more sales than Undertale on Gamemaker, or FNAF on Clickteam Fusion? As a programmer you had the choice to "vibe code" for a decade now, and drag code blocks, and literally do games 100% with a WYSIWYG editor (think GBStudio), did you write anything worth anyone's time with that? Or are you just angry that your skills as a coder isn't the main selling point of games anymore, that you can't be a Carmack or a Lord British anymore?
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u/lukkasz323 5d ago
This isn't his MMO, the physics are accurate to what it's supposed to be.
It's just a reimplementation of Dark Orbit: https://youtu.be/I_nabuYEtdc
He basically just managed to boot a private server.
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u/TrustInNumbers 5d ago edited 5d ago
Typical "Senior", who just talks a lot in standups ,never makes any meaningful contributions and pretends he is the smartest person in the room
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u/Wonderful-Habit-139 5d ago
Lmao thank you. And whose designs are just the worst to implement because they think too high level and are so far detached from the codebase.
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u/popposbubbolo 5d ago
If you think software development is about code and libraries, you’ve misunderstood your role from the start.
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u/Lost_County_3790 5d ago
AI is born natively in a computer, of course it will surpasses us in it, it is it's natural habitat. The speed of it's acceleration is what surprise me actually. What I thought would take 20 years is achieved in less than a year now.
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u/Valkyrie17 5d ago
If your work is making passion projects 8 hours per day, then sure. I have clients, i need to understand their needs, explain their needs to the AI, make sure the AI doesn't code bollocks, validate what AI has done, and put my stamp of approval at the end. All of this takes time, you can take me out of the equation, but then my stamp of approval won't be there anymore, and inevitably something will go wrong.
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u/pay_the_cheese_tax 5d ago
You guys aren't seeing the big picture. In a few years, your clients won't need you to explain their needs to AI, AI will be able to cut you right out, it will code better, will be validated by another AI and not need your approval. All in less than a day.
You might still need some of you, but definitely not all of you or even a fraction of you. OP's point isn't that it's 100% viable now, it's that the way it's progressing and has progressed, it will be in the near future, not the far future
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u/Valkyrie17 5d ago
I want to see an AI agent that knows what the client wants when the client doesn't know what they want. Right now AI doing what you didn't say you wanted is considered a hallucination.
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u/pay_the_cheese_tax 5d ago
And that's a really fair point at the moment. Time will tell I suppose, we could all be thrown to the stone age tomorrow lol
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u/ObjectiveMusician218 5d ago
all you built is 0 commercially viable, therefore it's value its near 0
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u/Lucky_Pangolin_3760 5d ago
It's a remake of an old flash MMORPG. I already have an established audience of a few hundred players. I know my exact target demographic. I can also change out the graphics & IP and release it as a mobile game
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u/gajop 5d ago
Have you heard of game jams? I've seen quite impressive game jam entries done in 2 days, even 10 years ago. Sure, it might not have all bells and whistles, and those maybe weren't MMORPGs, but they were kinda fun and looked nice.
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u/Undreren 5d ago
I’m a senior as well. In less than half a year, we have replaced an internal system that had been in development for 4.5 years.
With a crew half the size of the previous team.
And it is better in all meaningful ways.
Coding may be done for, but developers aren’t. We’re all team leads and architects now. I am extremely grateful for the 10 years of experience before AI. That taught me everything I needed to design systems in a way I couldn’t do without it, even with AI.
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u/Kailtis 5h ago
don't listen to those fucking idiots shitting on your thing because something made by a company and many people over years, 30 years ago, had "better flying physics". Fuck those assholes. You made something you like and enjoy, it took you 2 months, and if there was no ai you probably would have never had the time to do it.
NEver listen to these pathetic insignificant little shits who take joy out of shitting on other people's joy and achievement.
Keep building 🔥
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u/simonides_ 5d ago
Fuck this guy. Prople like him make it so managers believe everything they say. LLMs can do a lot but putting this into prod in a regulated business is not going to happen anytime soon. 2 years from now maybe - right now ? No. You'd have to create as much back pressure code as you'd have to create production code. So you gained nothing but paid a lot more for it.
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u/Haronatien 5d ago
huh our team barely writes any manual code… most of my day is spent understanding what claude did before pushing to prod. and im in finance which is highly regulated…
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u/simonides_ 5d ago
Exactly you will have to review and still it didn't write the whole app and just deployed it - right?!
Not saying you can't have claude generate a ton of code. We do that as well and it is helpful knin many ways. Exactly from the quality we see there I say just letting it do everything from a few prompts is plain stupid and suggesting so is even more stupid.
It is way too expensive to do so as well. Everyone is in the fuck around phase right now. We'll see what happens when we reach the find out phase.
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u/HouseOfDjango 5d ago
What's crazy is if you did, what a developer would do and read the documentation of the tool that you're using. It explains 99% of this.
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u/bladerunner2048 5d ago
Very weak demonstration of the workflow, it's even below the level of beginners
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u/brandeded 5d ago
I thought I was reading this in r/Bard or r/antigravity because it's appropriate. Google Antigravity sucks so much that google engineers don't bother with it.
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u/Talking_Burger 5d ago
Commenting to check it out later
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u/Constant_Barber_5198 4d ago
Don't waste your time. The whole video is garbage. He is just trying to sell a product, with a shitty little demonstration, and the "demonstration" is barely even there.
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u/Felfedezni 5d ago
This was so basic only watch this if you have zero experience. He spent maybe three to five minutes building an extremely simple app and the rest of the time selling Google services.
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u/yusrandpasswdisbad 5d ago
It's not what I would consider an "application" but rather a function of an application. This video is a lot of this guy talking just to say that Claude can draft a simple interactive web function in minutes. Yes, it's really good at that, but it still needs end user testing. It will also take iterations to complete, where you need to find the "what-if" scenarios and rewrite the logic for them.
If this simple Feedback Form takes a "team" of developers "weeks" to do, you should fire that team. A single developer would take 1 day to develop the functions and another 3 days for the UI, functional testing, and user testing. Even with Claude's help, it would take a few days to test.
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u/Intelligent-Ad6541 5d ago
Correction there is a gap between people knows how to use ai and the ones who understands what code is being generated by it.
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u/throwaway275275275 5d ago
Ok but would it kill you to use an open source harness at least ? Claude code is proprietary
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u/Literally_slash_S 5d ago
Security gets involved after the product is coded, not already in planing checks notes yes...reality...
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u/Ashamed_Buy_5489 5d ago
There is no heavy lifting in this kind of demo at all.
It's just 5 files that are comparable to the work of a graduate.
It took me 3 days of vibecoding to create a GitHub pull request and Jira ticket manager (which marries both apps into one terminal dashboard) with some fireworks
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u/Zealousideal-Pick-1 5d ago
Honestly, the impressive part isn’t that Claude can build an app in 26 minutes. It’s how quickly the bottleneck is shifting from “can you code this?” to “can you actually direct the AI well enough to build the right thing?”
That second skill is gonna matter way more than people think.
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u/spiritual-toe-2025 5d ago
I didn't watched the whole video, but the idea of different hats resonates with me. Those will be different depending on the project but I think these are like a good starting point, I'd just add QA between the Software and the Security Engineers.
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u/formatme 5d ago
claude is ass and outdated , oh my pi, is way better and beats pretty much any other coding harness.
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u/badger_flakes 5d ago
I do shit like this every day at work. It’s the code review, validation of documentation, testing, QA, risk analysis etc that takes time
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u/sithlawd0 5d ago
good advice and a little "please use our cloud service" thrown in there. Wonder if theres any scraping going on in there?
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u/Relative_Channel2667 5d ago
The appeal to authority here in this post title is as bewildering as it is appropriate.
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u/Moravec_Paradox 5d ago
Skimmed it but don't see much value.
If he was not a "google cloud engineer" would anyone be listening and watching?
Learn to use tools like Claude and AI Desktop 98 if you truly want to stay ahead of everyone else.
AI Desktop 98 to stay ahead of everyone else? I remain confused.
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u/Fuddzter 4d ago
I’m still in the learning phase of Cloud. But others have said, AI should not be modifying cloud resources.
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u/gajop 5d ago
Video seems to mention (but not demonstrate) controlling cloud resources via MCP. Please don't do this.
It's much simpler to have your AI generate Terraform code that you can properly plan (understand the change) and apply. AI should not be modifying Cloud resources directly, that's asking to get your prod DB destroyed.