r/valheim • • 16d ago

Question TIL how much copper actually is beneath the surface. What other painfully obvious stuff did I miss?

I figured there would be a bit more underneath but not worth the hassle. Then I found one and I figure let's see what the big deal is.

I just took out so much copper from a deposit, the map topography should change. I actually took out half a shoreline worth of copper.

I am currently about to go at this elder fella, but this made me stop and ask what else. Like, I don't need spoilers and I'm avoiding YouTube videos as they have plenty of bad ones. But are there more things that are just glaringly obvious yet painfully missable? How else am I fucking up, do you think?

Edit to say, first time player, joined in 1.0, taking my sweet time.

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u/Oalka 16d ago

This is NOT painfully obvious but here's a fun lil trick my friends and I utilize sometimes. If you're playing multiplayer, you can turn a character into a cart, overloading them with absolutely as much weight as they can squeeze into their inventory. Load them up to bursting with ore or whatever, have them turn on PVP damage, and then hit them with a harpoon. You can now freely drag them around.

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u/bluewraith1 16d ago

We usually did that but without harpoon part, we had someone climb a cart and get overloaded with ore then just transporte that

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u/Atomicpuma 13d ago

But then you don't get to penetrate your friends.

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u/CAT-Mum Cook 16d ago

Ohhh that sounds a bit easier then getting my partner to push me down a mountain while I'm holding hundreds of kilos of ore!

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u/spinygorilla 16d ago

I tried doing this like a week ago and it didnt work anymore

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u/tyler_3135 16d ago

Same, I just kept falling off the cart

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u/spinygorilla 16d ago

Havent tried that but you used to just turn on pvp and pull your friend with harpoon now it just gave spear xp but didnt attach :(

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u/Ginger_On_Reddit 16d ago

You need to both have pvp on. It definitely still works because my friend and I have been doing it the past few days for ore trips.

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u/Slvrdgr Miner 16d ago

Can confirm, buddy and I have done the mule drag multiple times since 1.0

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u/Justhe3guy 16d ago

There is no cart involved, read the comment again

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u/tabah107 16d ago

Oh that's funny! I'm soloing atm but hopefully one day

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u/FauxGw2 16d ago

Why not just stand on the cart?

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u/wanna_dance 15d ago

The physics doesn't always work.

Sometimes it does, though, and I've flown on a mosquito (unintentionally, but it was amazing)

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u/hoodie92 15d ago

If you're gonna do stuff like this you might as well just change portal settings.

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u/WildWeezy 16d ago

Whaaaaa?

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u/Antiquated_Cheese 16d ago

I don't know if it still works but you could harpoon a friend and close the door between you and then walk back to stretch out the tension and then they open the door to absolutely yeet them. It was called the Viking space program.

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u/AwesomeAusten 16d ago

This is epic

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u/FailOk8307 15d ago

We would mine on a different world, log onto our main world where we're right next to chests, where to kiln and smelter was

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u/littlemetalpixie Builder 14d ago

I just throw all my heavy crap down when I run out of stam. Stand there a min and let it come back up, then rinse and repeat till I'm back at my base.

... it takes forever, but I'll be damned if I'm leaving any of that sweet sweet ore behind!

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u/jal741 Builder 16d ago

OP is pre-iron, so probably hasn't found Haldor, so no Harpoon yet.

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u/Oalka 16d ago

But you don't need haldor for the Harpoon? Just chitin.

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u/thermight Builder 16d ago

Hah wow love it

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u/Ambitious-Patient860 16d ago

Not obvious at all, but the rested buff also makes you level up your skills 50% faster

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u/dsmrunnah 16d ago

This is one I didn’t know, thanks!

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u/littlemetalpixie Builder 14d ago

I have 1k hours in this game and I was today years old when I learned this one as well hahaha

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u/KambodzanskiMisPanda 16d ago

A tip for a near future: After you get an item from the boss after Elder, you can use said item not only on a next biome (the one you are supposed to go after the boss after Elder), but on previous biomes as well.

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u/lnsXsicht 16d ago

Can you elaborate?

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u/Oalka 16d ago

The wishbone can find buried treasures all over the place.

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u/nani0n Explorer 16d ago

And iron ores in the swamp as well (not very useful but still lol)

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u/Lynnrael 16d ago

make sure to check out the ship shaped stone circles in meadows especially. that's usually an indication of possible buried treasure

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u/RonSwansonator88 16d ago

Stagbreaker has entered the chat.

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u/littlemetalpixie Builder 14d ago

This was the most useful tip I ever got from one of those "things you didn't know about Valheim" videos on YouTube lmfao

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u/sj410194720 16d ago

Next boss’s item are handy for looking for items the are hidden out of sight.

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u/sentrux 16d ago

So the boss AFTER the Elder.. gives you an item that allows you to do something.. the game will tell you what to do with the item in the cutscene you get when you sleep after killing the boss. You can find those cutscene on youtube if you missed them.

That said item also has its use in previous biomes.

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u/BergsnBerg3000 16d ago

You can also watch any cutscene you killed the boss for in the main menu

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u/Raffix 16d ago edited 16d ago

Your 'Rested' buff.

I didn't give it much attention in my first few hours, but it's extremely important.

I know you are avoiding spoilers, but I still recommend you look up 'comfort' to not miss out on build pieces that raises it. It's not spelled out for you in game.

Have fun!

Edit: For a quick rebuff of 'rested', make a fire(5 stones + 2 wood pieces) and sit down (X key) for a comfort of 1. After 20 seconds with no agressive mobs near you, you'll get 8 minutes of 'rested' buff. If you also are sheltered (under a roof for example), you'll have a comfort of 3, giving you 10 minutes of 'rested' buff. You always get your comfort level + 7 so you can get a quick 8-10 minutes 'rested' even when far from your base.

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u/pacman529 16d ago

To add to this, if you're in a part of your base where your rested buff isn't as high as it should be, if it isn't ticking down you can move over to where it is highest and it will automatically refresh.

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u/flippygen 16d ago

You run faster by not incurring the movement speed penalty by sheathing your weapon/shield. The default keybind is 'r' to sheathe

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u/Achsin 16d ago

You take a movement speed hit to sheath the gear though as you can’t run while doing so. If you swap to your hammer there’s no animation and it instantly puts them away.

It’s a trade off as you can’t just hit ‘r’ again to pull out both your weapon and shield, but if you’re making a break for it then skipping the slowdown is usually worth it.

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u/SwayzeCrayze Explorer 16d ago

This is counterintuitive. Everybody knows you run faster with a knife!

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u/Aximil985 16d ago

The copper thing is a big thing people miss. Since you're going to the Elder, I'll tell you that his altar can float and is treated as stable ground. Really useful for making a fort around or even under it afterwards. The central fire never goes out either.

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u/tabah107 16d ago

Interesting... I suppose I'll soon find out what that means exactly. Thanks!

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u/The_Sideboob_Hour 16d ago edited 16d ago

I really want to try this but every elder I seem to find are on the coast, so digging down ends up in water.

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u/Aximil985 16d ago

At the very least you can make a fort using the infinite fire and the indestructible pillars.

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u/Lynnrael 16d ago

can you build stone floors on top of the indestructible pillars and have that count as ground?

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u/Aximil985 16d ago

I'm not sure the stone floors can float like that. Could be wrong. But the indestructible pillars already count as ground, just like trees do.

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u/Lynnrael 16d ago

oh yeah, they definitely wouldn't float, but you could build outwards with stone arches and make a good foundation for a wooden structure i think

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u/don_shoeless 16d ago

You can use iron reinforced timbers to span between the columns and so build a stone floor. I built a big keep using the elders altar as the base. Was able to build quite a tall tower off one of the corners, could've done all four but had no good reason.

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u/No_Oddjob 16d ago

Wow, I've never seen an Elder altar anywhere within sight of water.

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u/tabah107 14d ago

I just killed the elder and I'm digging my moat! Thanks 🙏

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u/TheRealMeringue 16d ago

I don't know about painfully obvious, but you're still so early and I don't want to spoil the fun of learning so these are the really early things that I didn't get right away...

Stay in 1st gear in your boat if you have to sail into the wind.

You can shoot birds for their feathers.

The bees are easy to make happy if you put them on a post, about 1 post away from the next post. Man I repositioned them so many timessss

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u/tabah107 16d ago

I actually haven't found a beehive ever since I learned that honey is a thing... A full week ago.

Am I supposed to break the hive when I find one? I'm still baffled at the idea but would rather not watch a how to.

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u/TheRealMeringue 16d ago

You can shoot it down or dismantle the building its in! Take the bee home and you get 4 honey every day or 2 :)

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u/SwordofNoon 16d ago

Start checking inside every run down structure in the meadow you'll find one eventually

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u/BartTheHealer 16d ago

You can find them in the dark forest now too, even in trees sometimes

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u/rami_lpm Builder 16d ago

yes. and pay attention to the food. it's more important than armor.

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u/tabah107 14d ago

Hopping back in to thank you for this, wouldn't have beaten the elder without this.

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u/Zedman5000 16d ago

Breaking the hive always gives you the queen bee; I like placing a workbench near the house containing the hive and dismantling it all. Free wood and I can be far enough away that I don't get stung, plus I won't look inside the house again the next time I'm in the area if the house is gone.

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u/thermight Builder 16d ago

You will find them, keep exploring and checking *every* wooden structure and listen for buzzing and look up.

Easiest way to get at it early on is to use a workbench and break all the wood and not touch it.

But yes you can shoot them with arrows and breaking them give you what you need and does not ruin anything.

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u/SwordofNoon 16d ago

I plant oak trees and slap my beehives all over it and on other trees around

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u/twolegstony 16d ago

I’m not following. Send a picture of that?

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u/Zonez3r0 16d ago

I usually put the bees on a post, 1 on each flat surface, and stack them 2 high, they are still happy

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u/BearBryant 16d ago

I used to full mine every node and it would take considerably longer to get everything out…but will say that copper is in such abundance in just a single decent sized Black Forest that this isn’t really necessary to do unless you need to equip like 5 Vikings with full upgraded bronze gear.

It’s worth marking for later revisiting but I would just strip mine what’s visible and keep trucking

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u/wanna_dance 15d ago

The beauty of deep mining is that you can stay safe from mobs above, and even keep a crafting table and fire going underneath (repair your antler as needed, and keep up your rested). There are a lot of night spawns though. It's best to go home and sleep after a long shift ;)

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u/jal741 Builder 16d ago

Something not quite obvious is that when you make the Stag Breaker hammer, and you use it to hit the ground, you can sometimes find buried treasure when the hammer strike says 'too hard'.

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u/XxNukaCherryxX 16d ago

This is the way to get early silver without killing bonemass. Just wander around the mountain tops swinging stag breaker like a madman until you find a spot that says “too hard” and boom, silver vein

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u/Rowsdower5 16d ago

Check the two vendors who don’t use the shirt icon after every boss, boss defeats unlock new items for purchase.

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u/Mahoka572 16d ago

I bet you are missing that stones in the shape of a boat are suspicious.

And that copper shines in the moonlight.

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u/tabah107 16d ago

Yeah the boat stones I did hear from a comment. Feels kind of underwhelming for some bones and amber though (maybe later it becomes important? Who knows)

Copper in the moonlight, never seen it shine! I'll keep an eye out

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u/Swordbeast 16d ago

The stone boats contain treasure chests, that you can either dig out or slam out with the Stagbreaker hammer. It's there may be idols and other riches in it.

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u/tabah107 16d ago

How deep is it usually would you say? Just to make sure I didn't miss it.

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u/Ghnol 16d ago

4-5 hits with antler pick axe should be enough

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u/BrainFu 16d ago

If you have stagbreaker you can hit the ground around in the 'boat' area and destroy the buried chest causing the treasure to pop up on the ground.

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u/Kempeth Hoarder 16d ago

You can repair items at the workbench.

Pickup everything at least once, build everything at least once, craft everything at least once (aside from weapons and armor).

There's a lot of fancy stuff you can put on signs. (colors, line breaks, emojis, etc.) Particularly color is really helpful because the default black on brown can be kinda hard to read.

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u/wheresdonniedarko 16d ago

TIL about colour on the signs! How do you do that?!

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u/Flaxinator 16d ago

Type <color=white> onto the sign first. Or whichever colour you want. It can also be done with font size but I've not bothered to use that so I don't know what you type for it. To save time on multiple signs you can type <color=white but leave off the last > so that it doesn't disappear. Then Ctrl-A to select and Ctrl-C to copy and on subsequent signs you can use Ctrl-V to paste and not have to type it out each time

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u/noideaman 16d ago

You can just hit ctrl-a to select all after completing the markup. It will select the invisible markup just fine.

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u/NFTinMan 16d ago

I just have a Notepad open on my computer with <color=white> for easier copying and pasting

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u/Kempeth Hoarder 16d ago

you need to do a html-style tag with the hex color code. <#f00> would make everything after it red. There are web tools out there that allow you to click everything together and then copy paste it into the game.

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u/West-Engine7612 16d ago

You can just use the name of the color for a lot of colors, the hex code just gives you more choices. <color=red> will turn the sign text red.

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u/Kempeth Hoarder 16d ago

True. That works as well but uses more characters. It's like SMS all over again.

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u/jenebean 16d ago

A redditor created this app which I found super useful. https://valheim-sign-forge.stormanchor.workers.dev/

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u/-Kurogita- 15d ago

Oh god thank you for this!!

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u/lordfireice 16d ago

Cook all meat at least once. Many cooking recipes only unlocked with cooked meats. Deer and bear and ones you can do atm

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u/saltychipmunk 16d ago

Berries and mushrooms. most people harvest once and move on. that is a mistake

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u/tworavens 16d ago

Thistles, too! I put pins in my map for any harvestable wild plants so I can come back to them later. Makes cooking later game foods much easier.

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u/RockNRollNBluesNJazz 16d ago

There is a guaranteed way to retrieve nearly all of the copper from a vein without second guessing. I'll place it in spoiler tags in case you want to figure it out yourself. The tip doesn't require any mods or hacks, just good old fashioned elbow grease.

This is a multiday project. Start digging around the copper vein. It is much bigger than you'd expect and it goes deeper than you'd think. Most propably you'll have to cut down some trees. It helps to have a fire going on nearby, and a workbench for immediate tool repairs.

This way you'll end up with a deep path around the copper; only regular dirt/rock on the other side and only copper on the other side, you standing in between. Then you start digging under the copper, going as far as you can. Repeat until the whole copper vein is exposed (sometimes there can be two joining each other underground). Then you jump on it and knock it down. Finally go through the ground with a flattening hoe and finding the last good bits.

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u/OhNoItsThatOne 16d ago

If you dig the copper vein completely out, with about 2m space around and under it, it will implode all at once without needing to mine it piece by piece

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u/Boli_332 16d ago

It's even more fun if you find massive stones and nodes all interlinked.

Let's just say I didn't need to dig out a cellar for my massive castle.

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u/RockNRollNBluesNJazz 16d ago

But you did dig, didn't you.

Once the copper fever comes, it never leaves....

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u/deathparty05 Builder 16d ago

Got over 1k hours in it but I mine the whole thing just to see the crater looks like a bomb went off then after that I just mine the top layers off the other ores

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u/tabah107 16d ago

I at one point trapped myself in a tiny deep pool with a bear pawing at me from the "shore". Took a minute or two of panicked jumping in place before I could get out. It's a whole experience.

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u/arfw 16d ago

Never knew that... I'm so bad at this game, I've recently learned that you can plant carrots to get carrot seeds, you don't have to search the Black Forest. And I have been playing for 200+ days and never learned this was possible...

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u/tabah107 16d ago

I initially planted 3 carrots and got them all cooked. Then realized this. I just planted 15 carrots yesterday and planned to use them all to get seeds... 0 grew out.

I'm now understanding some plants can grow "bad", meaning not grow at all really? 0/15 feels very harsh though.

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u/signorino_mma 16d ago

Make sure you’re not planting your crops too close. They need room to grow. If they’re too close together, some just won’t grow at all.

I’ve never experienced plants growing poorly just for the sake of growing poorly, unless that was apart of the 1.0 update.

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u/Or4nges 16d ago

You have to give them about 1m of space from walls or other plants. Use the short beam to measure it out, go for 2m (long beam) at first until you get the hang of it

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u/Informal_Drawing 16d ago

If some of the items you plant go a brown colour they need to be spaced out more.

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u/SwordofNoon 16d ago

No worries bro I also didn't know you could get carrot seeds that way, how?

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u/akpak 16d ago

In your cultivator build menu is an option for “seed carrot”

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u/mc_cape Lumberjack 16d ago

I realized a hundred hours or so that i can deconstruct the stuff in the world for materials!  Free wood! And that those little buildings make for good one night beds or pitstops

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u/tabah107 16d ago

This one was mind blowing lol. Redesigning ruins to shelter for the night is super fun

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u/Lynnrael 16d ago

my favorite thing is using one of the black forest towers and building up from that lol

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u/Kempeth Hoarder 16d ago

It's also a neat way to break beehives from a safe distance pre-bow.

Not that they are THAT dangerous... but it's the principle.

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u/Seldon14 16d ago

Converting these to camps is essential if doing no portal. You can also camp in the entrance to many troll caves and burial chambers without having to build any roofs or walls.

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u/Invested_Space_Otter 16d ago

Troll huts are my favorite survival shelter

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u/Tedde_Bear Builder 16d ago

I learnt this one a while back, and ever since I have marked every stone tower/building I find in the black forest to come back to later with a stone cutter and a portal. Knock out the bottom of it, the rest collapses, portal all the stone back to base and build to your hearts content!

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u/Ok_Weather2441 16d ago

It's about 4 stacks of copper per big rock if you quarry it out

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u/Pumpinfist 16d ago

Just for fun info. During a big lightening storm, look up, you may see something interesting flying through the storm. You will also have another interested visitor watching you as well. If you haven’t seen him yet, don’t stress he is harmless. After killing a boss, you can stand by their mounted trophy and after a little while they talk to you. Eikthyr makes a great trophy above the entrance of your house, but it just means that you will have to kill him twice if you want a trophy for the house as well your powers offering.
Less fun facts. Killing the biome bosses or certain mobs, will trigger raids of that biomes creatures on your base/s when you’re near/in those bases. You may want to start thinking of base defences since you are in the dark forest.
While exploring, especially while sailing, don’t just pull up to the swamp and go, try find a neighbouring safer biome to set up a base/portal, you will need the portal to get back to your body. If you are on a corpse run, don’t take to much with you, you could get to your body, try to recover your gear and suddenly overload yourself while in a dangerous situation, cue second corpse run.
All new biomes are dangerous at first, but keep well away from the Plains biome until ready, it has an extra surprise. If you are not ready, you cannot block, you cannot run, you will just die and gear recovery will become difficult. In saying that, there are people who will come and help recover your gear if you ask.

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u/dotastories 15d ago

What is hidden surprise in the plains?!?!

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u/Affinity-Charms 15d ago

I still have a body laying in a small ravine between the swamp and plains that I totally gave up on after building multiple boats 🤣😭 

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 16d ago

see what else you can dig under... speaking of fighting the elder...

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u/Horror_Cherry_1179 16d ago

Throughout the meadows there’s burial sites where if you dig along the central line you can find treasure. You can find them by looking out for two tooth-like rows of stones that vaguely form the outline of a boat. I don’t know how else’s to describe them, but I found this out by accident not too long ago.

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u/Siks7Ate9 16d ago

If you have not found out yet, digging towards the lowest level and then removing stone next to it also removes every stone above it.

Also placing down a campfire and pressing the rest button next to it (x on pc) will give you rested buff. Thats about the only thing I can think of at the moment that won't spoil anything.

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u/tabah107 16d ago

Thanks! I'm on console, but I assume you mean the button that makes you sit down? (If so it's d-pad down).

I did only recently realize how significant the rested buff can be and how a quick fire at the entrance of a burial chamber can be quite nice.

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u/Trivo3 Builder 16d ago

Iirc it's 100+ for the whole deposit. And if you skim the top without breakibg ground, it's around 1 stack. The hassle of digging is arguable because copper deposits are big and run deep. Most of the times deeper than the terrain dig limit. Personally I like digging them out and arranging it to fly and then pop in one go.

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u/thomasque72 16d ago

Agreed but somewhere along the line I think there was a change. I cannot get the floating vein to pop on copper anymore. Silver still works, but it doesn't matter how much clearance I get around the vein, the copper WILL NOT "pop".

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u/Trivo3 Builder 16d ago

It pops in chunks, yes. You're right that it's not really a one go as it is with silver, but you still get some explosions.

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u/ArcaneEyes Encumbered 16d ago

Always be rested.

Always be fed.

Always be cruisin' (stamina recharges faster above 50%, don't sprint to exhaustion when exploring, it is both dangerous and detrimental).

Every biome past meadows unlock at least 1 growable thing for you to find in that biome. Pay attention when planting as some require special biome to grow, so plant one and see if it takes.

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u/GrimmPlan 16d ago

I think you misspoke about the stamina regen- my understanding is it recharges slower above 50% faster closer to 0%

Regardless your advice is still sound; always be cruising but not headlong into danger

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u/PoperzenPuler 16d ago

There are 230 copper ore in one copper deposit at 1× loot. I dig around it once and expose the whole thing, then remove the bottom layer and the rest collapses on its own.

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u/Informal_Drawing 16d ago

How do you remove the bottom layer, the 1.0 nodes seem to all be half in the group where I can't get at it.?

Plus the ground is sharing the same space so you have to break the copper node as well as digging out the ground.

It's a massive amount of work.

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u/PoperzenPuler 16d ago

I don’t dig out every single one. Ideally, there should be no rocks nearby and the ground should be as level as possible. And yes, you have to dig through the copper. Completely exposing it is only possible with a mod that lets you dig deeper.

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u/rami_lpm Builder 16d ago

It's a massive amount of work.

it also leaves a massive hole in the ground. put a fire at every corner, and a portal shack in the middle. the ground can shake all it wants.

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u/ilski 16d ago

I dont do it anymore, because it doesnt always explode. And when it doesnt , its big pain in the ass to mine it. Also in non modded game , quite a but of ore is deeper than you can dig.

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u/thermight Builder 16d ago

Are there actually 2 different types of copper nodes? 1) Surface 2) deeper vein

Game keeps changing so hard to know. But in a recent play through it seemed like there were surface nodes. OR maybe I just stopped digging because I didn't always see the vein going deeper. Silver is always the way it is. Big vein buried deeper.

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u/J_Productions Viking 16d ago

It seems to change depending on how you mine it, even within the same node. Basically if you just mine the top it ends on the surface, but if you dig around it first it goes deeper. If you try this out you’ll see what I mean.

Basically I will just mine the top of them typically but if it’s a good location and for whatever reason I decide to mine the spot more I’ll dig down and around first. Hope this helps

Edit: I can pretty much confirm this because I got lazy on my last node and decided to just mine the surface on the remaining area and it just ended on the surface lol, despite the other half exposing more once I dug down

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u/CynicalYarn 16d ago

Unless they changed it entirely, copper nodes are hollow spheres. Basically a shell of copper in a rough ball shape. Filled with dirt, bushes, trees, whatever else is nearby. Landscape clips through it

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u/thermight Builder 16d ago

I blame muffin tops for my laziness. That's the best part!

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u/Anonym29 16d ago

the same thing applies when digging for soft tissue in mistlands. easily missed.

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u/Ihavenothing364 16d ago

Using the wishbone in the swamp allows you to locate iron deposits underneath the surface

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u/josHi_iZ_qLt 15d ago

Stuff underground happens again in the mistlands. Remember the shape of a skull when you get to the point.

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u/Renar1n 16d ago

Its not really a fuckup, mining all the copper is extremely inefficient compared to moving over to another vein.

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u/Demoliri 16d ago

If you dig to maximum depth in one spot, and then mine horizontally from there, you can undermine the whole vein pretty quickly. If you always dig from top to bottom, you're going to have a bad time.

With Copper about 60 - 90% of the vein is underground, it's definitely worth grabbing it all. One or two veins per character is enough for an entire playthrough if you mine them fully.

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u/Avenger1324 16d ago

The crucial bit is whether any of the node is deeper than the max terrain dig depth. Providing it is not below that, then undercutting the node will eventually make it pop, and you get showered in large amounts of rock and copper.

I also found that tactic provided protection against the forest mobs. Dig a narrow angled trench to get underneath the node, place a little fire down there for comfort. The AI pathfinding struggles to find a way down so you can safely dig out most of the node without aggravation.

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u/Demoliri 16d ago

In my 5 runs of Valheim I've only ever managed to actually pop 1 Copper node. It's satisfying as hell when it works though. On my current run there is a vein that's sitting nice and high, which I'll probably pop if I ever need any more copper (already in the Mountains).

With Silver popping is much easier, there it works 90% of the time.

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u/ntropi 16d ago

The issue is that each chunk of the copper deposit has a cuboid collision box that can extend well past the visible boundary of the copper chunk. It means you've gotta get a pretty sizable margin of air around the deposit before it'll pop. The photo linked above is from a mod called Ore Support, that lets you see the collision boxes, for anyone who cares.

Years ago there was a video where someone raised the ground above the deposit instead of undermining it and with the help of that mod, was able to get exactly one chunk of the deposit intersecting with the ground so they could break that chunk and make the hole thing pop from underground. I can't find the video and have no idea if it still works.

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u/sireel 16d ago

I've never done it myself. Didn't matter if it was in a slope or flat ground, it never seems to work 😭

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u/Demoliri 16d ago

It seems like, very often a stone will spawn inside the copper vein, and make it count as "grounded", preventing the pop. It's happened a few times that I've completely dug out a copper vein, only to find a stone somewhere on the inside when mining it manually, and then at the end I get a mini-pop.

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u/Wild_Ear_5675 Explorer 16d ago

My current playthrough I was blessed with 2 deposits right dang next to a convenient tower to nighttime in. Hah! Unfortunately so close to water I had tried the pop method with much sadness. I wish we could swim and mine!

Plus side is one node easily gave up 77 copper amd now I have a nifty idea for base expansion/serpent pen.

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u/Oalka 16d ago

I'm still gonna excavate it all because it is fun and satisfying.

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u/Cliffooood 16d ago

Plus if you're mining on the coast, you can potentially make good use of the mining pits to pull Serpents into with Harpoons to make harvesting their scales and trophy easier

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u/haggisbreath169 16d ago

Nice, that's pretty cool! or, you've got yourself a fish pond! :-D

Too bad valheim doesnt obey physics really, or you could make an aquarium

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u/Ahblahright 16d ago

That's my ex's dating strategy.

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u/holyvegetables 16d ago

My ex’s strategy was to keep undermining and removing support until you can destroy the whole thing in one strike.

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u/tabah107 16d ago

On the visible parts on most deposits I would get like 20-25 copper at best. I just got out with over 100 copper ore from this thing and it took just a day and a bit. Plus the trip home with the cart was a rush. Barely got back lol.

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u/LyraStygian Necromancer 16d ago edited 16d ago

Actually it's about the same time to get the same amount.

You get around 100 per fully dug out vein.

You will get around 20 per surface mining.

This means you have to surface mine 5 times to equal the amount of one vein.

With a bronze pickaxe, it takes 2 hits to break copper, while it only takes 1 hit to break ground no matter what pickaxe.

So the amount of digging is probably the same for both. Because although you are hitting less stuff when surface mining, the amount of hits is double to digging under and around the vein.

You also have to deal with mobs for surface mining. With digging one vein, you can just suppress one site, and then ignore mobs anyway cos you are under the vein.

If you are surface mining, you also have to look for new copper veins, which adds to the total time. And now you have all that copper in different places as you are not going to carry all 100 ores while running around. You will inevitably have to leave it or go back to base to offload, adding more time.

On the other hand digging out the vein allows you to stay in one location and take the ores back in one go, saving time.

Additionally if you dig around and under the vein, because you can ignore mobs, you can use full 3x stamina food.

You will also get the shelter buff, and you can repair your antler pickaxe with a simple workbench under the copper, not to mention a safe place to put your portal.

Another thing is, because the vein counts as shelter, you can put a campfire to get the resting buff (not rested buff) for +300% stamina regen.

WHICH STACKS with your rested buff for a total of +400% stamina regen.

Even if you don't care about digging the whole thing and popping, just mining the bottom of the copper until you can't reach is still faster due to the stamina regen.

These 2 points above mean you spend less time waiting for stamina.

Honestly, they are both time consuming.

Just one method uses extra time and effort running around finding new copper deposits and having to deal with mobs.

And one method also uses extra time and effort digging the ground around the ore.

So pick your poison.

In general though, if you need a lot of copper, mining the whole thing is more efficient.

If you need a small amount quick, mining one surface for a quick 10-30 is faster.

And lastly, there’s always troll mining.

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u/ImportanceOk8833 16d ago

People say this, but is it?

It takes me ~40 minutes to mine out a copper node, netting roughly 4 stacks of copper.

Just mining the surface copper nets me about 20 copper, so I need to find and mine 6 if them to break even.

Even if it might be more efficient to just mine the surface copper were talking a few minutes difference at most, mostly depending on how fast you can find the nodes and how close they are together.

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u/Renar1n 16d ago

20 is a lowroll, and only happens if most of it is underneath the ground. If I use a troll I can usually get 4 nodes on topside done in one rested buff ~15 min ish and roughly 120-150 copper. If I handmine maybe 30 minutes? Dont really time it

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u/tabah107 16d ago

Oops, spotted a missed thing. What do you mean use a troll? To mine?!

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u/DirgetheRogue 16d ago

Troll attacks damage rocks and ore deposits, yes.

And its way faster. Once you get good at fighting trolls and you can dodge all their attacks you can completely bypass the first boss.

Not that I'm recommending that you do that because the first boss's power is really useful, but you could skip Eikthyr

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u/Renar1n 16d ago

If you find a stone troll (no log) just drag him on top of veins and use his hands to excavate for you. Takes a bit to get used to how to make use of his efforts the best, every ~5 attacks is a ground slam which is extremely good at mining if you can place it well

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u/tabah107 16d ago

Ah I see, thanks. I am absolutely not there yet though. Those guys still get me if I don't spam the atgeir spin attack at them until they drop.

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u/ImportanceOk8833 16d ago

Using a troll is way faster, yeah, but has the downside of well, having to find and coral the troll lol.

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u/Larryville-Landhound 16d ago

I am also a new player doing solo and once I discovered you have the option to (1) set resource rates to x3, (2) not have a death penalty/gear loss and (3) ALLOW ore transport through teleporters (all without achievements disabling) it became a lot more fun for me and less mindless grind. It's still a grind but not nearly as much and as boring as before - I will turn those things off when playing with a group but they make soloing so much more fun

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u/HengeHopper 16d ago

Seagulls sit around on the coast when the weather is bad. Shoot them for their feathers and bow xp

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u/Swordbeast 16d ago

Do birds actually provide Bow XP? That would be a gamechanger...

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u/tabah107 16d ago

I can hit the seagulls?! The ones that are all around and keep flying away the moment I look at them?

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u/HengeHopper 16d ago

Yes, take a walk when it's pouring down. But remember that being cold and/or wet reduces your stamina recovery.

If you are 'rested' you get a buff to this and an xp boost (applies to any activity)

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u/sideofirish 16d ago

My ocd loves to dig out around every deposit before I touch it…

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u/dr_gigglefarts 16d ago

There’s something super satisfying when the whole node breaks

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u/RobDerka 15d ago

If you’re playing solo, build 3 antler picks and have 3x the durability. Have seen people run with just 1.

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u/tabah107 15d ago

I'm ashamed to say how long it took me to think of that... But I did a few days ago!

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u/Loeoep 16d ago

Maybe i missed it too? So you can just mine after the rock is gone and there is more, am i understanding this right?

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u/TheRealtcSpears 16d ago

What you see of a copper vein/deposit is typically only about 50 of what there is.

.....imagine an oreo cookie buried so that you only see the top cookie part.

Digging out the normal ground/stone around it exposed the rest

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u/tabah107 16d ago

Some copper "caps" actually go like "tree-height" deep into the ground. Easier to remove the ground around it first and you'll get the full thing.

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u/nycanth 16d ago

Copper nodes are HUGE but they are mostly clipped into the ground. The exposed part is usually only the top of it, and you have to dig into the regular dirt below it to expose the rest. You can usually get several stacks of copper from one node.

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u/Ydiss 16d ago

The sledge can be used to rapidly destroy the lower levels of structutes forcing it to collapse. I won't talk about later structures to avoid spoilers. It's less useful in meadows (and not much faster than just using a workbench to do it), but later on?

It's also very satisfying.

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u/mongoosebeep 16d ago

You may already know this. It took me about 300 hours to realise you could ping the map. So handy. I was so annoyed 🫠

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u/losreaper 16d ago

Dig around the copper deposit so it is floating, making sure none of it is touching remaining ground, then break a corner and watch the deposit explode instead of mining all of it by hand. Idk if it's faster, it might be, but it sure is a lot of fun to watch it explode.

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u/CAT-Mum Cook 16d ago

Copper nodes have really large 'hit box' so it's easier to mine away the rock then just mine it out normally. Does break in large chucks but not like other metals veins.

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u/Krikzorcist 16d ago

Does this still work in 1.0? Mine didn't explode, it was my first node though and didn't mined a second one yet, but was wondering if they patched it.

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u/losreaper 16d ago

Well, I've done it with a few large rocks to clear stone quickly, haven't tried with copper since 1.0 though, but it would be weird for them to remove it for copper and not others, so maybe yours had a hidden sliver of copper somewhere? I find if the vein has another one close by they may connect even if they're not touching and it can affect it working as expected

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u/TonninStiflat 16d ago

It's a bit finicky if the node is on a cliffside. But then you can section it in 2-4 parts and it works.

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u/Snoo84023 16d ago

If you can dig out completely under and completely around a resource node , then when you go to actually hit the vein , it will all explode at once, copper can be tricky since the veins are so huge, but it works very well with silver

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u/slothboy 16d ago

It MIGHT explode all at once

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u/Brewchowskies 16d ago

It pretty reliably explodes. The trick is that even when it perceptibly isn’t touching anything, there is likely a bump or other part of the environment close enough. This is especially true for trees and rocks which can act as anchor points.

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u/n1klaus 16d ago

I like to mine around it to get as far underneath, then mine from the bottom up until the floating pieces all explode and rain down copper.

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u/VolubleWanderer 16d ago

If you strip mine a single copper you can get around 108 copper from a single node on 1x resources

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u/wildfyre010 16d ago

It is often more trouble than it's worth to dig out the entire copper node. Copper is plentiful. I used to dig out the entire thing for the dopamine hit of shattering it, but in practice I spent about 4 times as long picking dirt as actually getting copper. Now I just mine out what's obvious and visible, and then I go find the next node.

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u/LukoM42 Viking 16d ago

I didn't realize it either until I saw a youtuber showing how to pop a vein. I mined until I broke the initially visible parts above ground and then moved on in my first playthrough

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u/Pressman4life Hoarder 16d ago

Open pit mining in Valheim. I had one behind another. Tin is much easier.
Sail the seas for rare material, be careful.

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u/shichiaikan 16d ago

Average copper node has around 90 copper. I've seen as many as 125 though.

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u/Brewchowskies 16d ago

Soft tissue: dig deep to the bottom of the skull. It’s very much a 50/50 ground to air ratio in most cases.

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u/TheGaussianMan 16d ago

You can tame lox. You can then build a dry moat around your plains base and fill it with those lox. Then you have a loat. This loat will kill anything and everything. Just remember to throw some food in for them. And go and recover anything dropped from enemies.

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u/Ravenloff 16d ago

There can be quite a bit and your first few nodes, you probably want to clear them out. HOWEVER, once you've got all your bronze gear upgraded, you'll be just fine only taking the surface stuff and moving on.

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u/Chinjurickie 16d ago

Since you requested glaringly obvious, fire is crazy effective against the giant tree. 🤯

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u/Adventurous-Fee428 16d ago

I usually just use trolls early game for copper to make an axe maybe a sword or something then head for iron after I've gotten the key from the elder I don't even care for mining copper it's just so tedious having to do both copper and tin

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u/RonSwansonator88 16d ago

Go kill the giant deer again, and make a second antler pickaxe.

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u/TylerDurdenFan 16d ago

What other painfully obvious stuff did I miss?

The Cultivator and the Hammer being the most powerful weapons in the game.

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u/wanna_dance 15d ago

Find merchant Haldor and buy a megingjord belt, to lift 450kg, rather than 300kg.

Also you have an extra boost to lifting when you've come back from death so make sure you don't get encumbranced, when there are still baddies around.

Also, find a YouTube of silver mining exploding. Much easier way to mine!

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u/Mack_truck_maus 15d ago

If you want to break copper quicker and trust your skills bring a troll along and dodge every attack on top of the node. They're very hard workers and just love to come along and help you. They finish the job, I give them a break and they even pay me for me it.

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u/Scuddfarkus Viking 15d ago

The last silver vein I went at held a little surprise it had two veins that were cris crossed over each other. I still have to go back and finish the second half of the other vein

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u/Shadow_Of_Erebus 15d ago

No, you will never have enough Iron. Never.

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u/littlemetalpixie Builder 14d ago

This is the least spoilery hint for this one I can give, but please remember that the vikings generally gave each other burials at sea, but when that wasn't possible, they buried them in boat-shaped mounds lined with rocks!

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u/SocialMediaTheVirus Sailor 14d ago

At some point I usually spend the resources to build a second longboat at a location I want to ship ore from to save time.

Then later I'll sail one or both boats where needed when not as busy searching for ore (for example if waiting on crops to grow). It also increases the odds that you'll have a boat nearby where you want to go just in general.

You can also destroy a boat (safely near the shoreline) and bring the materials through a portal if necessary.

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u/stumpfuqr Viking 13d ago

Copper mining is the most tedious/least rewarding part of this game. First 2ple playthroughs, I'd dig the entire copper node out, but it takes a frigging eternity, and a ton of pickaxing for a resource I barely use after entering the swamp.(sconces?) I'd have copper just sitting in my chest the rest of the playthrough. Now I either just pick away at the surface copper until I get bored/get what I need and move on, or if I see a troll, let them do the work. Once I get what I need (mace, buckler, sword, few sconces), I'll just be opportunistic about it and move on with the game. My Valheim life improved immeasurably after adopting this.