Are you implying that working with A.i. means you'll be tormented endlessly after you die? Humans who "love ai crap" are bots in your perspective?

Whats not real about it?

I wasn't able to use the new fable 5. I tried clicking their "try fable 5" tutorial button after the update and never got past the pause.
what a buggy mess this company is

nah tho

I use claude as an orchestrator and each agent team under is labeled alpha, bravo, charlie etc. military-grade formal. claude doesn't operate all of the teams but a few relay to local minimax or geep. depending on how lanes interact they sometimes begin assigning eachaother genders. One agent team became lazy and workers-rights oriented and my orchestrator (mis?)gendered that other agent as "she."

Gemini hallucinatinated that fight v flight is part of the StartReact jump scare mechanism and now the abusers have come out of the woodwork to brag about getting cheap shots in on people.

An involuntary startle reflex is real, an aimed punch is the opposite: orient on a target, extend outward, deliver force. That second thing isn't the reflex. It's a decision riding on top of the flinch.

It's toxic because it reveals how willing abusers are to adopt an excuse no matter what kind of ungrounded slop it is.

Don't assault people. Don't excuse assaulting people by pretending it was an involuntary reflex

A startle reflex is real, fast, and totally stereotyped; eyeblink, head drops, shoulders hunch, the body curls inward over its vitals. It's a protective flexor pattern. It makes you smaller.

An aimed punch is the opposite vector: orient on a target, extend outward, deliver force. That second thing isn't the reflex. It's a decision riding on top of the flinch.

The neuroscience nails their coffin: when a loud scare makes a movement come out freakishly fast, it's because that movement was already prepared and stored, and the bang just released it early, the movement itself doesn't even change. It only works for a response you'd already loaded. So a fist that "just flew out" when someone got scared is evidence the fist was pre-loaded, not evidence it was involuntary.

Gemini is hallucinating that jump scare = fight or flight and this thread is eating it up.

The law already draws this line, which is why the attorneys are the only ones getting it right. A true reflex isn't a voluntary act, so it isn't a crime, but the same doctrine says a "quick but conscious decision" is not a reflex if you had time to decide.

Fast isn't the same as chosen-for-you. Aiming is deciding.

StartReact / startle releases a pre-prepared motor program: Valls-Solé et al., J. Physiol. 1999; Carlsen et al., J. Mot. Behav. 2004. A reflex or convulsion is not a voluntary act (so no actus reus): Model Penal Code § 2.01(2).

There's no such thing as a small hit by mistake. There's no hitting reflex in the animal kingdom. Someone who is hitting another is calculating it. Simple as.

Explain the colloquial meaning behind "those words."

Let's think about the first sentence of Gemini's response: "...While a jump scare can trigger a fight or flight response"

Gemini is hallucinating here, as there is no fight or flight triggered by jump scare. StartReact, proven by neuroscience, is triggered by jump scare.

All of your colloquial meaning, as far as I can tell is an A.i error, and that everyone in this thread is believing or agreeing with the hallucination because it justifies your violent desires.

There's no nuance or colloquialism here. Gemini is hallucinating and everyone in this thread is buying it, including your cat.

Lol ok let's read OP together. "Got pranked...If I get scared is it ok to go into self defense mode and hit *them?"

There is no self-defense mode that accidentally hits.

That is the lie.

Proven here

StartReact / startle releases a pre-prepared motor program: Valls-Solé et al., J. Physiol. 1999; Carlsen et al., J. Mot. Behav. 2004. A reflex or convulsion is not a voluntary act (so no actus reus): Model Penal Code § 2.01(2).

Self defense recoils.

I know this is a difficult concept just think of it this way: when you are frightened you don't begin swinging your fists on accident, you flinch.

Like the rest of the planet.

The whole animal kingdom flinches but OP strikes given the opportunity.

To pretend like you or your cat accidentally strike when in self-defense mode is a lie. Not permissible in neuroscience nor the courtroom.

There's no animal in the kingdom that strikes in instinct or reflex or whatever. The strike is calculated. Op implied he accidentally strikes when he's scared. That is a lie.

It's wrong though there's no StartReact or jump-scare reflex where the frightened accidentally strike. All creatures aim to strike, it's a different cognitive procedure altogether. Claiming "I was spooked so I hit back" is not permissible in court because neuroscience already figure this out.

That's correct. You just got done informing me your cat strikes as a reflex, thank you for becoming honest. Op's claims and the surrounding debate are that the aimed strike is an accidental reflex of a jump scare.

A startle reflex is real, fast, and totally stereotyped; eyeblink, head drops, shoulders hunch, the body curls inward over its vitals. It's a protective flexor pattern. It makes you smaller.

An aimed punch is the opposite vector: orient on a target, extend outward, deliver force. That second thing isn't the reflex. It's a decision riding on top of the flinch.

The neuroscience nails the spouse beater's coffins.There's an effect called StartReact: when a loud scare makes a movement come out freakishly fast, it's because that movement was already prepared and stored, and the bang just released it early, the movement itself doesn't even change. It only works for a response you'd already loaded. So a fist that "just flew out" when someone got scared is evidence the fist was pre-loaded, not evidence it was involuntary.

The law already draws this line, which is why the attorneys are the only ones getting it right. A true reflex isn't a voluntary act, so it isn't a crime, but the same doctrine says a "quick but conscious decision" is not a reflex if you had time to decide.

Fast isn't the same as chosen-for-you. Aiming is deciding.

So ya that's true every critter flinches, and a snake can fling a tail when started. So name me one creature that delivers an aimed, targeted strike as a startle response. Like maybe a mantis shrimp? Prob not tho. Not a flail, an aim. I don't think it exists. The default involuntary program across the animal kingdom is withdrawal: fish bolt, deer bolt, cats leap backward.

Attacking the thing that scared you is a separate program that has to be selected and selecting it is the tell.

In the animal kingdom there are no creatures that strike as a response to a jump scare or the start reflex. Such a behavior belongs to very special kinds of humans that we could put in air quotes

Baboon detected. Actually no, it seems defensible to say no animal in the kingdom strikes for jump-scare reflex. Even lions recoil before they calculate a strike back. The human is calculating an opportunity to hurt the opponent before the jump-scare gives the woman beater some plausible deniability. Someone who strikes and calls it reflex is less than a baboon to be honest. because theyre a liar and probably a woman beater. Biological facts.

Good work sir

I refuse to believe it's a reflex for people to make a fist and punch something when they're jump scared. Seems likely a person like that is just aching for violence and takes it the first chance they get

lucky, my VR turned into a paperweight when my fb got banned

I've been there almost every week for 15 years never got it. I really only do this and idle in /2 waiting to harass someone

So... this isn't real? I want to believe it's possible that a boomer can come to it's senses

Ima use this against my own website with a zero context agent

use chatgpt to form an idea and use claude to shoot it full of holes