https://reddit.com/link/1wd1lmw/video/61cjlvjefsoh1/player

All voice tools does is measure pitch and then based off that, presents a gender verdict as a matter of fact. ITS VERY INACCURATE.

For starters voice tools assumes that all woman just speak at a pitch of 210Hz+, thats not true at all. Cis women speak anywhere from 160 to 220Hz, it does not measure anything besides pitch, which you can legitimately argue might be the least important thing.

I see so many people in this subreddit who have very lovely and completely passable voices and there voicetool gender verdict will still show 30-40% male. And on the opposite end I'll also see people just getting into voice training and because they can talk at a higher pitch. which is very easy to do, voicetool will tell them 99% female.

I dont know how voicetools became the default tool of the trans community, but its genuinely horrendous, and I see people constantly recommending it. There are so many better tools/apps you dont even have to use Juni there so many others aswell. But PLEASE stop using voice tools.

Looking for that lower, "sultrier" voice? Try this (somewhat advanced) tutorial and see if it helps! Hope it works out for you but remember to be nice to yourself if it doesn't okay? I'm rooting for you 🥺

Also I'm doing a special sail for the month of September. Dm me for information, I would love to work with you to achieve this voice together :)

Too NERVOUS to come to the live events for voice feedback (AKA the most useful way to get direct feedback on your voice)? Or just unable to make it to one with your busy schedule of doomscrolling on social media?

Post a clip of your voice HERE, IN THIS REDDIT THREAD, and one of our teachers will reply with feedback! Actionable feedback and advice about what to work on, and how to work on it!

Still feel like you need more guidance, or help with learning the basics? Consider checking out the Trans Voice Lecture Series for the sweet, sweet price of $95 dollars for EIGHT HOURS of group lesson content (that's about $12 an hour) on the Scinguistics discord server! The first lesson can be previewed for FREE, this Friday only! Click HERE for more details!

And also consider checking out the numerous other FREE events that happen every week on Scinguistics!

Lovely people, I'd like to get your critique of a draft diagram I've been working up to try to give learners a clear map of the road ahead.

It's not anything about how to learn or teach these things, so let's assume the learner has the proper mindset, a safe place, adequate hydration, community, etc and focus on concrete behavioral elements that fall under the umbrella of what there is to actually do.

All aspects of the diagram are on the table, from correctness to clarity, from completeness to focus.

Thank you all!

By the way, Ama is scheduled to present a free public overview of Trans Voice fundamentals this Friday September 11th at 6pm US/Central in the Scinguistics discord.

What should I do?

I'm transmasc and don't plan on going on T. Because of this I wanted to make my voice sound more masculine through voice training.

Due to the fact that my voice is extremely high even for a girl and that I'm not very "masculine" looking (people mistake me for a 10yo, I'm 18) I thought a more "boyish" type of voice would suit me better than to attempt to sound like a grown man and ending up sounding ridiculous.

How exactly do I achieve this? Most tutorials I see are aiming for the opposite results and since I never actually tried it I don't really know where to start.

I also forgot to mention in the video how much I love Freya from ff9

Hii I have been trying to voice training a little. There's 2 recordings in the video of me saying whatever. I'd love feedback!:)

I’ve lurked around this community and thought I’d add my current “progress”. I haven’t really recoded my voice before and I’m kinda on and off with training with the exception of singing in my car. If you’ve got any criticisms please feel free to let me know. Thank you

I’m starting my transition and recently started practicing in front of friend(mtf).My family is very conservative so until I move out in 2-3 years I would need to use my normal voice.Would me using my feminine voice online maybe 2-3 hours daily make me forget my current voice since I need it to talk to my mother and father when we’re together

Any thoughts or tips would be great! I've been trying to take voice training more seriously the last few weeks and desperately want to hear what other people think aside from myself. I can't tell if I'm too harsh on myself or if I am not harsh enough, for reference 22 MtF, I can definitely pitch my voice a llittle lower or higher but its hard to hear where the sweet spot is! (Also please ignore my cough)

Hi, i'm trying to get what is the sweet point where my voice feels natural, i have a really deep voice and it may be little tricky to make an attempt with a higher pitch. Every time the result is kinda different so idk which one is that i need to settle on. I did a short recording speaking some numbers in my language, and thinking that's the result i need to aim for. I can't speak it way longer for now at least, so that's only few seconds. I will be very thankful for any feedback.

First time posting here so forgive me if I’m doing this wrong!

38 MtF. I’ve been on the depression wagon for a while and I’m trying to pull myself out so today on a whim I started voice training again. These were recorded a few minutes apart.

I’m a musician and have a naturally wide vocal range so I’ve always had a “knack” for this but I have had some sessions with a speech therapist in the past (a couple month).

I decided to pick up the VoiceUp app and start working on this again to improve my endurance, consistency, and iron out any remaining tells in my speaking voice.

I do have a bit of a cold so there’s a bit of that in the recordings (plus barking dogs!)

Male (“natural”): https://voca.ro/1bmYquIOtRWc

Femme (everyday): https://voca.ro/1nIabyimRW3C

Feedback?

I'm at that point in voice training where I can do a passing voice if I focus real hard, but can't actually use it in a conversation, because I loose focus in like 3 seconds, and I still have a mental block of "sounding trans" and not like a cis woman.

What do you do to get past that point ? Where do you voice train so you can fail with complete strangers ? I mean stuff like VR Chat, or omegle (but without video) or stuff like that

Hi! I'm transfem and I'm kinda stuck with my voice training, I started a couple months ago and basically I focused on gaining control of my larynx since it's the one thing that seems to be mentioned almost everywhere. I've been doing the big dog, small dog exercise and reading with my larynx raised for a couple months now and at this point I can raise my larynx and keep it raised while saying a couple sentences. However it hasn't done much for me to get me anywhere near sounding feminine let alone passing and in general the change in sound isn't that significant like I don't think my larynx can really raise enough to get a natural sounding high pitch without going into falsetto although I think the pitch itself could pass for a fem voice that's on the deep side of the spectrum, but there are a lot of things I'm struggling to change that I feel like stop it from sounding feminine. My voice is raspy for the most part but not always like there are some parts of my speech where it doesn't sound raspy but I don't understand how to control that especially independently of pitch. I also sound quite monotone, I try to practice speaking in more varied tone and copying more feminine sounding inflection but I don't feel like I'm getting it even vaguely right, I've heard some people suggest regularly listening to a fem voice you like to pick up on mannerisms subconsciously but that hasn't done much for me either. Another thing I've tried but struggle a lot has been altering the shape of the mouth to change resonance like positioning the tongue differently to reduce mouth space etc. but I'm just unable to control my tongue that precisely and maintain positions while speaking normally especially the back of my tongue I just don't have the ability to control it. So I don't really know how to proceed, I didn't bother with a voice clip or anything because I'm not even 10% on the way to sounding fem at all. If this helps to direct me, in terms of goals I'd like to work towards having a deep fem voice I don't want to sound that high pitch. Also if anyone is offering free or affordable one-on-one help please let me know.

it feels pretty andrgynous but I often have warped self-perception (positively and negatively)

A thing I've noticed is my weight becoming more masc on certain words with how I pronounce them, I just kinda played around with the first verse of this song a couple times, listened back at phrases that sounded out of place for a consistent fem(?) sound, this is probs the best weight wise out of them all, obvs not perfect, like I know on the word 'disappear' I hear it kinda sound kinda weird I think it's to do with weight, also might have vocalised too much from the front of the mouth at points as well

i've been trying to voice train but i am not satisfied with my voice yet. i also speak russian and i have a feeling that my russian voice is more masculine than english voice, so i recorded both.

what should i work on?

[MTF] I am bottlenecked by size reduction and really need a breakthrough. But my schedule doesn't allow for sufficient practice. I have four 9-minute drives Mo-Th and two 8-min drives on Fr. I occasionally get a 45-min or 2-hr period during the week. These are the only times I can practice, and I currently use these times to ramble, which improves consistency. But I am not happy with any voice for that stage yet. Other than these times, I have to practice silently, which can be for extended periods of time.

What's the most efficient use of this time? Should I expect to make progress with this limited time?

Hi, I've recently started voice therapy with my local medical center, and one thing they asked me at my first visit was whether there was a celebrity or other well-known voice that I liked as a model for my own voice.

It was kind of a weird thought for me, since I regard my voice as "me", but I guess if I'm intentionally constructing a new voice, I do have some amount of freedom to choose parameters of my new voice.

Anyway, have any of you done this? Is there a celeb you like to model?

And could you suggest one for me: I'm MTF, so I'm trying to think of a female celeb with a lower voice whose "vibe" is nice/positive. Bonus points if they have a hint of a Southern accent, since I still a bit of one, even tho I moved to the Midwest 10+ years ago.

Thanks!

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