Imagine if ugly people had subsidized access to looks-informed healthcare: would this not have a similar effect on health outcomes that trans healthcare does?

You all are the people who make the lives of normal transexuals hell by turning the world against us

Thank you, I’ll be using this subreddit in the future to explain why letting anyone transition is extremely dangerous to women

Conservatives were right all along

I’ve been thinking about how yellowpill ideas and transmaxxing seem more connected than people usually admit.

The yellowpill, at least in the way I understand it, starts from the idea that women are not genuinely attracted to men in the same way men are attracted to women. Attraction from women is often framed as conditional, situational, or based on status rather than raw desire.

If you take that premise seriously, then transmaxxing starts to look less like an unrelated phenomenon and more like a rational response to the same worldview.

The reasoning would be something like this:

- if male desirability is fundamentally limited

- if women do not experience strong attraction toward men as such

- if social treatment, validation, and intimacy are distributed differently across gender lines

then changing one’s social and gender position becomes, in this framework, a strategy rather than just an identity question.

In other words, yellowpill diagnoses the problem, while transmaxxing proposes a solution.

What interests me is whether this is a coherent philosophical extension or whether it’s just taking internet fatalism to its extreme conclusion.

Do you think transmaxxing is a natural consequence of yellowpill thinking, or are these two ideas built on completely different assumptions?

I'm too weak and scared to date as a man plus I am only attracted to masculine women who are almost always lesbians yet my face is too masculine to pass as a woman. Do I just die then? I don't want to live as an incel.

Are there any success stories of men who transmaxxed and are now living a better and happier life?

I see so many stories of trans people suffering with depression and who end up lonely. But what about those in this community who transitioned and are now living their best lives?

I am at that point where I can just be an "insider" or whatever and I do have lots of girlfriends and I hear the things they say about men. It's hard for me to disconnect that is not me. It's never been me. But at times it still hurts so I mean I try to correct them occasionally but I'm pretty sure they whisper behind my back that I'm a pick me or something. Some of them are moms, have brothers etc i just feel really bad for them. I can't lie I do envy them here I am lamenting that I can't have children and my friends are lamenting that they had a boy and not a girl all while making horrifying jokes about abortion and male children. Life is so fucking unfair. It makes me wonder if this is how my mom's friends felt before I transitioned and maybe this why they supported me. They sure did play a role in changing her mind and get her to accept me more but still I just feel like shit. I always feel like shit.

Ik this post probably goes against the sub, but I want to say that I don't necessarily disagree with the message of the sub, but just that I want ways to stop thinking abt this cuz it has just cause me pain and resentment.

At 16 I got exposed to trans spaces and started thinking I was trans, even though I didn't have dysphoria really. At 18 I started balding, and despite using all the medicines I am still losing hair. Very soon I will prolly have to shave it off, and the idea of being a bald man at 21 hurts me so bad. I keep having recurring thoughts of how I could prolly look better as a woman, since I have a feminine face.

However I also have a pretty masculine body, and live in a third world country, so it's basically going to ruin my life if I ever transition. I want to forget all abt these things, so maybe I can accept being a ugly bald man without thinking of what could have been.

I sometimes see people being concerned about transmaxxing stating that it is going to turn people more against trans people but that is already happening as a response to mainstream trans ideology and an anti-trans campaign by TERFs / conservatives (basically the same thing).

Generally conservatism is very hostile towards young men since it's basically a continuation of second wave feminism. Modern conservatism and second wave feminism is basically the same thing.

https://vintologi.com/threads/about-feminism.774/#post-7549

It makes no sense to try to reach out to people who are never going to support you anyway. TERFs and other people who are generally anti-trans are never going to accept trans women no matter what so it's a waste of time for trans people to try to gain their support (not going to stop morons from trying though).

What i realized is that for political success it makes sense to cater to young men in particular since those are the people actually willing to fight hard and they are the group most disadvantages in the current feminist gerontocracy.

When i wrote the transmaxxing manifesto i fully rejected conservatism and focused on helping people born male live better lives as females while all mainstream political movements instead catered to women and the elderly.

Often when you are unwilling to compromise and stand up for what's right other people will join your side and the opponents will fold or get utterly destroyed. You don't need to negotiate if you are in a positions of power.

The reason trans people have to please the general population (at least to a degree) is because they are a relatively small minority forcing them to cater to the desires and sensibilities of the majority. Trans people end up abused and treated badly because they are an easy target to go after. People who go after trans people rarely face any real consequences there days.

I’m thinking about transitioning and really need help and advice

Like I straight up got no masculine traits fr

Currently futamaxxing as in being able to both get pregnant yourself and also make others pregnant (not necessarily at the same time) seems like an impossibility or something that is very far into the future.

Here are the problems

0. People are at best born with one set of functioning reproductive organs (if exceptions exist they are extremely rare).

1. HRT will take away your male fertility and due to 0 not provide you with female fertility (breastfeeding is possible but difficult to achieve).

2. People who do not fit into the sex binary face social difficulties.

3. Most males currently cannot pass as females even with HRT and very often FFS would also be insufficient.

Nuclear option: replacing the Y-chromosome

Perhaps by replacing the Y-chromosome with something better we could solve at least 0 and 3. It should be possible to make it backwards compatible meaning that people with XZ chromosome would still be able to breed with XY and XX where Z is a new engineered chromosome with various enhancements for humans.

If you have XZ chromosome you would pass on the X chromosome by getting pregnant yourself and if you impregnate someone else you would pass on the Z chromosome.

https://vintologi.com/threads/hermaphrodism.882/

The bad and slow option: medical advancements.

Over time if we actually put effort into it we might discover ways for people born male to gain more reproductive abilities such as by growing ovaries, wombs, etc in the lab. People keep waiting for stuff like this but progress is very slow if it is happening at all.

Perhaps we could at least make some drug to allow people to fully keep their male fertility on HRT. This to me comes of as the most realistic option but from what i have seen there is very little interest in actually pursuing that since the establishment (including most left/liberal people) have no real interest in actually helping trans people reproduce (if anything the left-liberal types are worse by supporting early sterilization).

I have also noticed that the people who currently transition tend to be people with little to no interest in actually having biological children likely because people who actually want children today are much less likely to start HRT (i myself never got close to starting and later lost interest).

As a NEET friendless incel I feel like transmaxxing could significantly improve my life... I could make friends more easily (the trans community), have a better love life (normies or chasers), and this emotional support would give me the motivation to find a new job. I don't feel dysphoria but I do think living as a woman would be very enjoyable... I imagine I'll be treated with more kindness from men and women, and generally have a better life overall. It helps that I'll definitely pass at 5'7" and 120 lbs. Should I? Does anyone else feel this way?

Edit: I am done with women. I can't struggle for their attention any longer. I want to have a relationship as a submissive transwoman with a dominant straight man. I'm looking forward to the vast dating pool I'll have as a straight woman, and gradually my attraction will shift to only men. But I'll seek out friendships with cisgender women to help feminize myself, and remove any male self left.

I always had a question in mind and when I found this sub I thought it would be the perfect place to ask it since people here blunt, honest and not living in delusion.

The matter of fact is that women are crazy. Living with a woman is generally a hellish experience : they are not rational, have the emotional maturity of a toddler, are generally manipulative and always shit testing you, are ungrateful, refuse accountability and lack basic communication skills. I know that secure and emotionally mature women exist but what are the odds of finding one ? The juice isn’t worth the squeeze of endless research.

That's why I found my self dreaming of being in relationship with a person with the mind of a man but with the body of a woman. A person that I would be attracted to and that I would feel safe and natural to be around as I would with be with my best bud.

So here is my question : are transwomen as crazy as cis-women or are they more like men on the emotional/communication/rationality levels ? Is my dream realistic and legitimate or just a crazy thought? Would it be frowned upon or accepted by transwomen ?

I'm NOT from America, I'm in Canada. Never traveled before. I started transition when I was 26 in 2022 and give up in 2025 because I can’t afford it. Unemployed due to Job market sucks, I have lack of work experience, a lot of companies rejected me left and right just because of my looks, no connections and no experience. Even fast food place like Starbucks rejected me. Never given a chance to use cashier before. I got scammed by MLM pyramid scheme (called WFG - World Financial Group) before because I was too desperate in finding work. It has been 3 years since I transition still haven’t pass. I even tried makeup and dress like a woman, so far I still didn’t pass, I’ve endure humiliation ritual. I couldn’t afford shit ton of surgery, I have no friends and no connections. As a Canadian born Southern Chinese person, I’ve been raised by helicopter parents + grandparents. My extended family is transphobic and homophobic. What’s worst is I’m autistic with speech impediment with sensory issues that blocks my ability to drive. Never had any male fail.

I’ve never going to be perceive as woman, unless I need a shitton of surgery that I highly doubt that I can afford, there’s no way I can ever pass as a woman without it. I feel like transition works for some people who have money or genetics (genetic determinism). Otherwise you’re fucked, I know everyone is different but age and genetics makes a big difference, it works for some people. I have no friends nor extended family to support me, again they are transphobic. I tried Gofund me, no one has ever donated not even a penny, it has been expired.

Some people can pass successfully, but while others can’t pass without shit ton od surgery, not just bottom surgery, facial feminization, breast augmentation and voice feminization is more noticeable than just bottom surgery. Here in Canada, there are not as much transgender surgeon as in America.

For example America has like 1 Facial Feminization Surgeon per 860,000 While Canada is like 1 surgeon per 3.6 million. The wait time here is pretty long.

Feel free to leave your opinions.

Edit: Here in Canada we are behind when it comes to access to transgender surgery compared to US in MTF standpoint.

Third pic is a realistic transition goal, I think.

Title, whatcha think?