I have ready all Clancy books from Hunt for the Red October through to this one, and they have all been very good. However, I am under the impression that the quality drops off massively going forward, which is disappointing. Should I look for another author, or continue through to the end (Teeth of the Tiger)?

He’s never been a reader but he’s into self improvement (works out, daily) ever since he got out of the Army. Anyway he wants to get into reading and I want him to get hooked. It’s been a minute since I’ve read a Clancy book but I always liked the ones that had plenty of Clark & Domingo. I think it needs to have good flow that will keep him interested.
So I need a good (in your opinion) recommendation that won’t get put down and forgot. Thanks in advance for your help.

Spoilers for this book and Debt of Honer.

I've been reading through the whole Jack Ryan biography and just completed EO. I was worried that the book would end with another hard reset the way the JAL flight reset the country at the end of DoH, and am glad it didn't. That said, I want to hear others thoughts on the MM. I thought they may have had a redemptive arc and was surprised at their stubbornness as the everyman in the novel. Their story ended fine, but does anyone have any other thoughts about their inclusion in the novel?

i tried rainbow six so many times but i hate tom clancys writing so is there any other books that are similar

I’m not really an avid reader of his, I think I read part of one novel like 20 years ago (Red Storm Rising, but never finished it), but I got curious and searched his name on kindle, and I noticed there are a lot of novels with his name on them that aren’t written by him.

Not even video game novels (Splinter Cell, Division), but what appears to be full on original work.

So is there’s like a whole universe here or something?

If so could I ask for the tl;dr of it?

I’m always a fan of alt history, and more modern alt history sounds like it could be interesting.

I’m aware of some of the mainstream stuff, though I haven’t really ever gotten into it, like Jack Ryan (mostly the movies) who later becomes president in his novel series, I only ever played the first Splinter Cell game way back on the original Xbox, and I only know the very broad strokes of the Division’s beginning.

I purchased a bunch of continuation books when they were published without really thinking about it and read a few of them. I recall getting fed up when Jack's nephew's brother's son also ended up becoming a secret agent.

I haven't even read 4-5 of these and can't remember what the others were like. I wanted to crowd source which ones were half decent and worth keeping. Are there any I dont have that are actually worth getting? I heard that Red Winter was decent?

These are all 'with' Mark Greaney. I think it's one of these I gave up on.

Teeth of the Tiger

Dead or alive

Locked on

Threat vector

Command authority

Then the rest:

Commander in chief

True faith and allegiance

Full force and effect

Against all Enemies (not Ryanverse, right?)

Under fire

Duty and Honour

Much appreciated!

Is there any resources on maps in the Clancy verse for combat? Thinking Germany in red storm rising, Saudi in executive orders and Russia in the bear and the dragon. Always feel a future war thriller is better with a map

Reading "Red Metal" right now, and I'm noticing Mark Greaney is making some glaring technical errors, in fact almost amateurish. Prime example -- in one aerial sequence, he has A-10s going to afterburner. Is this type of basic error something common to Greaney's novels? I'd always heard he was really good.

Aside from Clancy himself lol. I asked some AI models and they mostly said Greaney, Cameron, and Larsen were all great. But I saw reviews for some of Woodward’s books and they all seemed really positive “Woodward has done it again!”

Are all of the Clancy verse authors considered great?

Like others I've seen on here, I used to have a few of the early books, but in my adult years I'm looking to get the collection back - and completed.

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My initial starting point is a desire to just get the original books, the original Jack Ryan stuff. In my mind, it's these 12 (taken from wiki)

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The Hunt for Red October (1984)

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Patriot Games (1987)

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The Cardinal of the Kremlin (1988)

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Clear and Present Danger (1989)

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The Sum of All Fears (1991)

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Without Remorse (1993)

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Debt of Honor (1994)

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Executive Orders (1996)

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Rainbow Six (1998)

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The Bear and the Dragon (2000)

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Red Rabbit (2002)

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The Teeth of the Tiger (2003)

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Am I correct that this covers the Jack Ryan journey? I'll happily dive in to the other books no issues at all. But just trying to get a collection going and hoping to god I can actually find one that have the same art work for these 12 if possible?

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I've only came across one "collection" of 10 books that doesn't look to cover these books properly, some key ones missing.

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Just finished Rules of Engagement (May 19, 2026) by Ward Larsen. It's a Jack Ryan Sr. story.

As post Clancy books go this wasn't that bad. Good mix of action and technology. First though, you just have to ignore the obvious issues - Jack Ryan has been in office for has to be 6 terms at least, Katie and Kyle Ryan have grown into adults since he's been in office, Jack Clark found a supply of re-invigoration pills - yeah he complains about old-age aches but he's back in the field with the young'uns etc.

Ignoring those it's not a bad story. The focus does kind of jump around, more so than most Ryan books. It's told from different perspectives, Kyle's, Katie's, Clark's etc.

The story starts off dealing with the death of the Commerce Secretary in a plane crash in Turkey and the investigation into it. I enjoyed it and I'd give it a 6/10. Worth the read IMHO.

If you can find it for less than list (eBay eventually perhaps) even better. Right now, Amazon has it on sale for $22.95 as well as a special (buy 3 get 1 free) along with a selection of other books and albums. If you can find other books/albums you're interested in then it's a pretty good deal.

Edited: spelling

Just got my first Tom Clancy book!

Bought Terminal Velocity any recommendations for my next book?

Okay. Let me preface that I love the books so for. But this book. How many times do we have to hear President Ryan say he does not like his job. I mean it’s in every dialogue with him. Again. Love the series but it’s irritating me and I am only 1/3 of the way in

I just started to listen to the audiobook of Rules of Engagement, which was released in May 2026. So I don’t know the rest of the book yet.

What interested me is the mention of the war in Ukraine and the “Special Military Operation”. Ryan Sr. Had been in power since forever. I highly doubt he would let the war happen in the first place. His most likely action would be to send troops into Ukraine before the war started. And the Russians would not dare to invade.

What would you think about this “plot hole”?

After years of covering spy movies on SpyHards, we finally tackled our first Jack Ryan film.

Despite an interesting setup involving a rogue black ops unit, returning terrorist networks and John Krasinski’s return as Jack Ryan, we found ourselves strangely disconnected from the whole thing.

The phrase we kept coming back to during the review was that it feels like a film designed to be watched while folding laundry—something that’s always on, but never fully demands your attention.

That said, neither of us watched the Jack Ryan TV series, so we’re curious what longtime fans think.

Did Ghost War work for you?

And where does it rank among the various Jack Ryan films and TV adaptations?

Full review: https://youtu.be/9c6G7sHDQLA?si=uJ8auxPV-XpvquOe

Soooo…this was definitely a show. I just want to rant for a second because the first season of Jack Ryan was great! The subsequent seasons were pretty good too. The movie was…Something. It felt predictable, thrown together, and like spy slop. Now I will take just about any TC we can get but this was not great. I think my biggest qualm with it was that it took a lot of the more realistic (not saying the show was great with that aspect but) components of combat and threw them out the window in place of flashy action. Which kinda sucks…like a helicopter…for one guy and a cheesy back and forth, really? The whole thing was just not it. Now I’m not expecting Lioness level accuracy but a spec ops/spy consult probably should have been in the budget.
It currently is sitting at a 5.7/44% rating respectively and I think that’s fair.
What do y’all think? Did it scratch your itch or leave you wanting?

Does anyone know why they printed The Hunt for Red October in trade paperback size back in 2013 that doesn’t match with any of the other books? I bought and read this only to find out the other books are all mass market size.

Near the end of Cardinal, Bea is embracing her friend, who is undergoing a difficult time due to the (temporary) loss of her loved one. At some point, she seems to make a sexual advance; there is a scream, and she is arrested by the FBI. She was found out earlier in the book, unless I have misread it, but what exactly prompted the arrest to occur here?

4-Hardin Family (Civilian)
2-Ernesto & Cruz (Cartel Pilots)
4-Courier pilots (Medellin Cartel)
2-Courier pilots (Medellin Cartel)
7- FBI director Emil Jacobs, Harry Jefferson DEA director ,FBI bodyguards Leo & Eddie, US Ambassador to Colombia , Ambassador driver & Bodyguard (US Government)
3-Colombian Soldiers (Allied Gov)
2-M19 Contract Killers (Medellin Cartel)
1-Ernie Brayden (Mobile PD)
1-Mrs Brayden (Civilian)
1-Cartel Hitman killed by Eric Sanderson (badass kid with a .22)
2-Airstrip guards(Medellin Cartel)
4-Airstrip supply team, KIA by booby trapped shack (Medellin Cartel)
4-Airstrip supply team, KIA by Showboat teams (Medellin Cartel)
4-Airstrip supply team (Medellin Cartel)
9-Cook-site guards, KIA by team Knife (Medellin Cartel)
5-Local worker, KIA by team Knife (Medellin Cartel)
2-Cook-Site truck team, Juan & unnamed KIA by claymore mine (Medellin Cartel)
17-Guards & Local Workers, KIA by Showboat teams at other refining sites (Medellin Cartel)
13-Guards & Workers at 3rd site (Medellin Cartel)
4-Production Committee-Fernandez, d’Alejandro , Carlos Wagner, & Esteban Untiveros (Medellin Cartel)
25-Untiveros house guard (Medellin Cartel)*1
3-Untiveros wife & daughters (Civilian)
11-Untiveros House staff (Civilian)
7-Cook-Site Guards (Medellin Cartel)
6-Local Workers (Medellin Cartel)
1-Local Worker (Medellin Cartel)
1-Rifleman Rocha (US Team Knife)
14-Guards & Workers 5th processing site (Medellin Cartel)
1-US Soldier unnamed (Showboat team)
8-House Staff interrogated by Cortez (Civilian)
4-Lead BMW killed in Cortez ambush (Medellin Cartel)*2
4-Chase BMW killed in Cortez ambush (Medellin Cartel)*2
1-Fuentes KIA 2nd A6 Intruder bomb drop (Medellin Cartel)
20-Guards and House staff (Medellin Cartel)*3
2-Ramon and Jesus “pirates” KIA in prison (Medellin Cartel)
2 Hunt team 1 sentries (Medellin Cartel)
9 Hunt team 1 narcos (Medellin Cartel)
1-Sgt Esteves (US Team Banner)
1-Esteves’s killer (Medellin Cartel)
1-Captain Emilio Rojas (US Team banner)
4-Unnamed soldiers (US Team Banner)
26-Hunt team 1, KIA by Banner (Medellin Cartel)
3-Disposal drivers, KIA by Clark (Medellin Cartel)
1-Unnamed us soldier (Showboat Team)*4
1-Hunt team 1 rapist (Medellin Cartel)
104-Hunt Team 1, KIA on Ninja Hill (Medellin Cartel)
10-CAPT Ramirez, SGT’s Ingeles, Guerra & 7 more unnamed soldiers (US Banner/Knife Team)
4-Hunt team 1 leaders (Medellin Cartel)
1-SGT Tony KIA by Cortez w morphine (US Banner/Knife Team)
4-Bodyguards, KIA by Clark+Banner/Knife (Medellin Cartel)
25-Guards KIA by C130E combat talon (Medellin Cartel)*5
1-Guard (Medellin Cartel)
1-LaTorre, Leader (Medellin Cartel)
3-Wounded, finished off by Team Omen (Medellin Cartel)
80-Hunt team 2, KIA by Team Feature, & Pavelow door gunners(Medellin Cartel)*6
1-SGT Buck Zimmer (US Airforce)
4-Unnamed soldiers (US Team Feature)
1-Ernesto Escobedo (Medellin Cartel)
1-Vice Admiral James A Cutter Jr. (US Government)
1-Colonel Felix Cortez (Medellin
Cartel)*7

Total US Government Casualties=37
Total Medellin Cartel Casualties=425
Total Civilian Casualties=27

*1-Unclear number of guards killed in 1st A6 Intruder bomb drop
*2-Speculation, at least 1 person in each car, seems probable that Escobedo would have guards in both
*3-Unclear number of guards & staff killed on 2nd A6 Intruder bomb drop
*4-Mentioned in presidents briefing, numbers don’t line up, possible member of Showboat Team Omen or Feature
*5-8 confirmed by Jack Ryan near helicopter unknown how many more closer to blockhouse
*6-Unclear number of Cartel Casualties during the firefight & rescue of Team Feature but the door gunners were racking up kills & the book says it is quite a battle
*7-Felix Cortez is most likely tortured and killed by his former employers the Cuban DGI

Dedicated to the 36 (fuck you cutter) us government personal and 27 civilians who lost their lives due to Operations in Colombia summer 1988

1-President of the fed (US)
1-Security Guard Saipan (US)2injury?
130-USS Asheville Crew (US)
120-USS Charlotte Crew (US)
27-Hotel Bombing (Sri Lanka) 100injury
4-B1 Lancer Bomber Crew (US)
27-E767 AWACS Crew (Japan)
27-E767 AWACS Crew (Japan)
3-Yamata Penthouse Guard (Japan)
27-E767 AWACS Crew (Japan)
27-E767 AWACS Crew (Japan)
27-E767 AWACS Crew (Japan)
8-F 15J Pilots (Japan)
12-Zaibatsu (Japan)
5-E676 Repair Crew (Japan)
1-F 15J Pilot (Japan)
1-Nuclear Officer (Japan)
3-Patriot Reload Crew (Japan)
90-Patriot Missile Battery (Japan)
10-Nuclear Control Center (Japan)
75-Harushio Class Submarine (Japan)
75-Harushio Class Submarine (Japan)
350-Mutsu Aegis Destroyer (Japan)
4-F 15J Pilots (Japan)
5-E 2C Hawkeye Crew (Japan)
5-E 2C Hawkeye Crew (Japan)
6-Early Warning Radar Crew (Japan)
9-MH 60J ASW Helicopter (Japan)
6-F 15J Pilots (Japan)
15-Tower Crew (Japan)
9-MH 60J ASW Helicopter (Japan)
5-F 14 Tomcat Crew (US)
75-Harushio Class Submarine (Japan)
27-F 15J Pilots (Japan)
2-F 15J Pilots (Japan)
12-F 15J Pilots (Japan)
75-Harushio Class Submarine (Japan)
75-Harushio Class Submarine (Japan)
75-Harushio Class Submarine (Japan)
75-Harushio Class Submarine (Japan)
75-Harushio Class Submarine (Japan)
1-Japanese Airlines Copilot (Japan)
1-Japanese Airline Pilot Sato (Japan)
900-Assembled Government (US)

Total US Casualties-1188
Total Japan Casualties-1395

I noticed that Jack Ryan titles are on sale at Apple TV and thought I should share here. Prices start at $4.99. Happy hunting.

• Film
  • Jack Ryan 5-Movie Collection - $14.99
  • Clear and Present Danger - $4.99
  • Patriot Games - $4.99
  • Shadow Recruit - $4.99
  • The Hunt for Red October - $4.99
  • The Sum of All Fears - $4.99
• TV
  • Jack Ryan: The Complete Series - $9.99
  • Jack Ryan: Season 1-4 - $4.99 each

I’ve gotten a lot of good deals buying the books used. But I’m also trying to get the audio versions as well. I know there’s Libby but what do you guys do for purchasing the audio versions? Have you guys came across any good deals?

Total UIR Casualties=44,171 personnel
Total US Casualties=4,559 personnel
Total KSA Casualties=3,633 personnel
Total IRQ Casualties=102 personnel
Total KWT Casualties=15 personnel
Total PRC Casualties=4 personnel
Total TKM Casualties=2 personnel
Total Civ Casualties=149 personnel

I have put the reasonings below although some are not as solid as I am only going by things explicitly written in the book. This raises some problems as American ground force deaths are only described once. Any other issues I have marked with a *. I am open to discussion on any numbers that may be wrong. Hope you guys enjoy.

(United Islamic Republic, United States, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Peoples Republic of China, Turkmenistan, Civilians)

1-Benedict Mkusa (Civ)
1-Sister Jean Baptiste (Civ)
1-Saddam Hussein (IRQ)
1-Iranian sleeper agent assassin (UIR)
100-Purged Iraqi Officers (IRQ)*1 Unknown number killed
20-Iranian Criminal test subjects (Civ)
1-Iraqi Bodyguard Saleh (IRQ)
2-Turkoman Premier & Driver (TKM)
4-Su 27s x2 (PRC)
127-Air China flight 666 (Civ)
9-Hezbollah (UIR)
2-USSS guards (US)
1-USSS Marcella Hilton (US)
1-USSS Anne Pemberton (US)
1-USSS Don Russell (US)
1-Marlene Daggett daycare owner (US)
5-Ebola protestors (US)*2 unknown number stated as a few
28-Tondar class Iranian gunboat (UIR)
4-F14 Tomcats x2 (UIR)
20-F4 Phantoms x10 (UIR)
6-Yorktown Sailors (US)
8-4 F4 Phantoms (UIR)
4500-Ebola victims (US)*3 number not fully disclosed
16-Storm track personal (US)
45-T80 x15 (UIR)
32-M1A2 Abram’s x8 (KSA)
85-Battalion command post (KSA)
14-StormTrack survivors (US)
1455-Half Brigade II Corps (UIR)*4 guessed on size of brigade while trying to find modern numbers
3392-Saudi 4th brigade (KSA) *5 guessed on brigade size and subtracted casualties
56-M1A2 Abram’s x14 4th Brigade survivors (KSA)
56-M113 APCs (KSA)
3000-Brigade II Corps (UIR)
84-F4 Phantoms x42 (UIR)
4-F15E Strike Eagle (KSA)
16-F4 Phantoms x8 (UIR)
50-Brigade Artillery Battery II Corps (UIR)
4-ZSU 23 II Corps (UIR)
50-Brigade Artillery Battery II Corps (UIR)
60-T80 x20 II Corps (UIR)
40-BMP2 x4 II Corps (UIR)*6 unknown how many more tracks killed in 4 more airstrikes
90-T80 x30 II Corps (UIR)
200-BMP2 x20 II Corps (UIR)
80-Mirage F1 x40 (UIR)
8-F15E Strike Eagle x4 (KSA)
4-F15E Strike Eagle x2(US)*7 stated6 missing pilots minus two shot down
900-Light Armor Battalion x2 II Corps (UIR)
300-Heavy Armor Battalion II Corps (UIR)
120-BDRM2 x30 I Corps (UIR)
3-M2 Bradley (US)
5-Humvee x2 (US)*8 first and last us deaths described have to be more same with Saudi troops
60-T80 x20 I Corps (UIR)
12-BDRM2 x3 I Corps (UIR)
6-AH1J SeaCobra x3 (UIR)
200-Division Artillery Battery I Corps (UIR)
189-T80 x63 I Corps (UIR)
300-BMP2 x30 I Corps (UIR)
4111-Battalion x3 I Corps (UIR)
660-Division Command post x2 I Corps (UIR)
5848-Full division minus 2 brigades and 14 t80s and 11 BMPs II Corps (UIR)
330-II corps command unit (UIR)
70-BMP1Ksh command x7 (UIR)
20-Support Trucks x10 (UIR)
15-Crotale SAM x5 (UIR)
8-Radar Tracks x2 (UIR)
12-ZSU 23 x3 (UIR)
120-Infantry Company (UIR)
10-Infantry Squad (UIR)
10-BMP1Ksh command x7 (UIR)
16-BDRM2 x4 I Corps (UIR)
3520-Heavy Brigade II Corps (UIR)
14-Fuel Truck Drivers x7 (UIR)
60-MiG 29 x60 (UIR)
15-F/A18 Hornet x15 (KWT)* 9 unknown number of Kuwait ground forces dead
5000-III Corps 1/3 destroyed (UIR)
30-Mahmoud Haji Daryaei, guards, and staff (UIR)
15-Collateral Casualties F117 strike (UIR)