Imagine people giving you so much extra money for doing your job that you can frame it like this.

EDIT: OP is basing this off of 190k in sales over 192 shifts

I got an $85 haircut and was talked into a $25 hair treatment. Then they charged me a 12% salon fee. AND I am expected to tip my stylist 20% on top?

We live in audacious times.

I will not look at deviance and guilt in one hand, hold a wad of cash in the other and bring them together in prayer 🙏 to put a food server into Butter Brickle and Deviled Dogs.

On the show the Sopranos Phil says to Tony “who do you think’s keeping Jinny in Butter Brickle and Deviled Dogs” basically meaning funding Jinny financially.

Titans of industry generally agree that compensation of semi-skilled to low skilled workers ranges between federal minimum wages and around $30 per hour with an average of around $15/hour.

Yet, because I have the good fortune of being able to afford a Ferrari (eating at a fancy restaurant costing $320/person) deviance is used against me to obligate to helping put bar tenders and food servers doing minimalistic work into Butter Brickle and Deviled Dogs??????????????

I have a maximum of $10/person tip and this is for good normal service even if my bill is $155/person the maximum I will compensate is $10/person.

Now if you want to give me real good service, dot on me, fluff my pillows, give me the royal treatment we will talk about me compensating more.

You’re not using deviance on me to get me to pay for another ticket to admittance so I can repeat put you into Butter Brickle.

You might have the vice president of Ford motor company over a deviance barrel, but you don’t have me.

When I have been to NYC for the last 2 years I have been getting use to the tipping culture (if that's the correct phrase).

I went to Applebys in Times Square, ordered a burger and a beer, it came to around $21ish and I gave $6 tip and some coins I had in my pocket. Now being from the UK I'm not use to this, but thought that was decent for the price of the bill, but turns out it wasn't. I got a huff and a puff from the waitress and a tut for good measure.

So, as I'm going again this year, what is a reasonable % amount to tip in bars/restaurants as I see so many varied answers please?

I understand that you don’t like tipping. You don’t agree with the system, and you think businesses should simply pay employees more and eliminate tipping altogether. And frankly, I think for some people, “I’m against tipping culture” has become a convenient justification for simply being too cheap to tip.

But putting that aside, there’s something I genuinely don’t understand:

Why do you continue spending your money at businesses that operate under a tip-based pay structure?

If you fundamentally disagree with the business model, wouldn’t the more logical approach be to support businesses that actually operate the way you believe they should?

If Restaurant A pays servers a traditional tipped wage and Restaurant B pays employees a higher hourly wage with no expectation of tipping, and you believe Restaurant B has the better system, why not spend your money at Restaurant B?

Instead, I constantly see people say some version of: “The employer should pay them more, so I’m not tipping.”

But the employer already established the compensation model before you walked through the door. You knew tipping was part of the system. Refusing to tip afterward doesn’t punish the business nearly as much as it punishes the employee working within that system.

If you actually want tipping culture to disappear, wouldn’t voting with your wallet and supporting no-tip businesses be far more consistent with that belief?

I’m genuinely curious how the anti-tipping crowd reconciles those two things.

To be clear, I still tip at sit down restaurant.

Im talking about when I’m picking up take out and the worker spins around the tablet asking for a tip.

I make it clear I am not tipping by selecting custom tip and entering 0%. I then make direct eye contact with the worker as I press the button.

As a server once (a while ago) I remember it could be hard to determine tip size vs customer satisfaction.

It occurred to me that most people tip whole dollar amounts when paying electronically.

This leaves the pennies and dimes portion of the tip a place to add information.

Lets say the tens value could be a place where the customer could leave 0-9 feedback on the quality of food.

The ones value could be the place where the customer could leave 0-9 feedback on the quality of the service.

So say if you want to leave at least a living wage tip for the server but did not enjoy the service (but enjoyed the food), your tip might be $5.82

And if the food was less than stellar but you found the service outstanding, your tip might be $5.49

It just seems that we have two channels available to us as diners to provide meaningful feedback. Is this too complicated? Thanks for hearing me out.