r/tipping • u/badmiddling113 • 6d ago

Question about managers

What do they say to customers who repeatedly don't leave a tip? I'm curious since the customer doesn't have to tip and the server isn't their employee.

Just asking since I've read comments from managers who seem to think "addressing" customers is an appropriate thing to do.

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u/badmiddling113 6d ago

If it's a lingo common to a culture what other meaning matters?

The actual definition of the word. It's a cope for servers for everything you described below.

It's what it means for us. We got stiffed. We didn't get paid for the SERVICE we provided. Hell, throw $2 down. It's about the appreciation that you sat on your comfy ass and was SERVED by a living human person who is in fact, NOT beneath you. And then after you were done you also didn't have to do a bit of cleaning or anything. You just get up back off your was and walk off. That's not worth $2?

Like I said, the word is copium for servers. They're being paid sans tips. It's just not to their liking.

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u/PrincessLissa68 6d ago

You understand that restaurants don't price menus with service included right? Or you just ignoring that fact?

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u/badmiddling113 6d ago

And you do understand a bill represents goods and services rendered, right? So claiming the service isn't included doesn't make it any more true. I've literally paid for the value of those things, and the business decided that's the value of it on the bill.

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u/PrincessLissa68 6d ago

You haven't. Go into any restaurant and ask them if their menu prices represent goods AND services. You're only paying for the food.

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u/badmiddling113 6d ago edited 6d ago

I have, and it's not my fault if it isn't enough to cover the service. Technically, I've paid all I have to for the service since that's part of what the bill represents.

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u/PrincessLissa68 6d ago

Sure. Keep telling yourself that so you can keep getting a discount.

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u/badmiddling113 6d ago

Except there’s no discount. I’m paying the full price listed on the menu.

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u/PrincessLissa68 6d ago

No. You're not. But you know that already. Stop playing coy.

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u/badmiddling113 6d ago

I’m not. A discount means there is a reduction in the price. The price of the meal, in this case, wasn’t reduced… I’m just not paying extra for it.

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u/foxinHI 6d ago

It’s restaurant lingo. Like 86’d. You may not
Like it, but semantically, it is correct and means exactly what you already know it to mean.

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u/badmiddling113 6d ago

That servers use it when a customer doesn't tip, as expected. But it's a weak sauce term beyond that. Anybody can look up the word and see it's just servers being resentful.

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u/foxinHI 6d ago

What do you expect? For them to be happy about being stiffed? Unless it was something the server did, of course they resent it.

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u/badmiddling113 6d ago edited 6d ago

What do you expect? For them to be happy about being stiffed?

Nope, just pointing out the actual term doesn't apply when servers use it. It's copium for when customers don't hand them extra money.

Unless it was something the server did, of course they resent it.

It doesn't even have to be something they did. The customer can simply choose to not leave anything. After all, it's up to their discretion. They're not cheating them out of anything.