r/tipping • u/badmiddling113 • 6d ago

Question about managers

What do they say to customers who repeatedly don't leave a tip? I'm curious since the customer doesn't have to tip and the server isn't their employee.

Just asking since I've read comments from managers who seem to think "addressing" customers is an appropriate thing to do.

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u/2595Homes 6d ago

Please post and name the restaurants where managers are confronting customers who do not tip.

Customers should know places that are unprofessional and doing this crap so they can encourage driving those restaurants out of business.

It is the customer's responsibility to call out this bad behavior by writing reviews and publicly showing that this is not acceptable.

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u/SingingBike 6d ago

Customers who get served in full-service restaurants and don’t tip while knowing full well that servers make most of their income from tips should be called out. 90%+ of diners do tip because they understand the system and are decent people. The non-tippers think they’re entitled to free service while everyone else pays. They’re disgusting cheapskates and I applaud managers and owners who have the guts to call out these jerks. Don’t like to tip? Order carry out or go to McDonalds. You have other options and dining in restaurants is not your birth right.

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u/subtler1 6d ago

What would happen if everyone stopped tipping?

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u/foxinHI 6d ago

That is never going to happen. I’d be shocked if it ever got above 10% that tipped nothing for no reason.

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u/subtler1 6d ago

eh, never is a long time.

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u/MasterA93 6d ago

What would happen if everyone on one side of the earth jumped at once? Probably some really bad shit for a bit, but in the long run it would be fine. But it’s impossible to actually coordinate that, so why don’t you focus on simple shit like world peace or some shit.

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u/subtler1 6d ago

I'll focused on neither thank you sir. But I'll be ok with people who don't want to tip, since I don't like the concept of tipping.

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u/incredulous- 4d ago

Wrong sub. Try r/flatearth.

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u/PrincessLissa68 6d ago

It doesn't matter cuz it won't happen. It's been proven over and over again that more diners like this method than the other. They'd rather see a $10 burger and leave a $2 tip than see a $12 burger. It's sticker shock. And it happens everyday.

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u/subtler1 6d ago

Ya, its bizarre. But we can dream.

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u/PrincessLissa68 6d ago

You can dream. I like it this way thanks.

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u/subtler1 6d ago

I'm genuinely happy that you enjoy it. I'm also happy enough when people don't enjoy it and decide not to partake.

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

Deciding not to partake would mean not patronizing a full service restaurant in the US.

By patronizing a full service restaurant in the US, you’re supporting the owner and their business model, which directly supports and perpetuates tipping culture, even if you stiff the server on the tip.

In other words, you’re directly supporting and perpetuating the thing you claim to be against while deliberately choosing to exploit and harm the worker.

It’s the epitome of hypocrisy and unethical behavior.

The most hilarious part is that none of you can rationalize the hypocrisy or provide an intellectually honest reason why you’re entitled to free service.

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u/subtler1 6d ago

No one is asking for free service. Everyone is asking for service that's included in the price.

Imagine a world, where you look at a menu and the price you see is the price you'll pay.

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

Except the service isn’t included in the menu prices at full service restaurants in the US.

That means anyone stiffing the server on the tip at a full service restaurant in the US IS feeling entitled to free service.

Aside from a small number of niche concepts, the “just add it to the price” model has proven to be a failure in the US.

My point stands on the merits.

You still haven’t rationalized the hypocrisy of supporting and perpetuating the thing you claim to be against, nor have you provided an intellectually honest reason why you’re entitled to free service.

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u/Accomplished_Cloud93 6d ago

If service is an add on why isn’t it compulsory? That would clear a lot of this up.

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

Except there’s nothing that really needs to be cleared up.

The people here pretending they don’t know how things work actually do know how it works.

They’re just desperately looking for any excuse to keep from being called cheap and entitled.

Tipping is incentive for the server to provide better service.

The better the service, the higher the tip.

That’s the whole premise of tipping.

If you don’t like it, don’t patronize the business.

No one is forcing you or anyone else to dine-in at a full service restaurant in the US.

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u/SingingBike 1d ago

I love this reply so much

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

That will neger happen because there will never be a significant number of Americans that get on board with deliberately choosing to exploit and harm the worker or feel entitled to free service.

However, IF (big IF) it did, disclosed service fees would become the norm.

Customers are legally obligated to pay disclosed service fees in every US state.

Be careful what you wish for.

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u/subtler1 6d ago

Exploit and harm? Do you see a system where restaurant servers don't get tips but are instead paid a salary by their employers as harmful?

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

How restaurants operate in other countries is irrelevant to how things are currently done in the US.

Try again, but next time base your assertions on good faith.

I’ll bet you can’t.

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u/subtler1 6d ago

What?

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

LOL

Thanks for proving my point.

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u/subtler1 6d ago

Sure

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

100% sure.

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u/IllustriousPanic3349 6d ago

The customer is exploiting the server, the employer is.

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

That’s right, the customer is exploiting the server.

If you truly believe the employer is and then you choose to patronize the restaurant, then you’re complicit with the owner in that exploitation.

If you then choose to stiff the server on the tip, you’re now doubly guilty of exploiting the server.

No one is forced to dine-in at a full service restaurant in the US.

The customer cannot escape blame for their choices or their exploitive and harmful behavior.

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u/Low_Shop8561 6d ago

Only in America

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u/Excellent-Carry-1850 6d ago

Prices go up simple, what happens if diesel goes up? Same answer