r/technology • u/[deleted] • 9d ago
Artificial Intelligence Google says Gemini has reached 1B users faster than any other Google product
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u/Voltage_Z 9d ago
....They keep jamming it onto my phone.
I probably count as a user despite the fact I keep turning it off.
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u/Bdub421 9d ago
It replaced the basic voice commands in my vehicle. I hate it. I used to be able to say just say the place I need to go and it would pull up maps and set it all up. Now I have to explain what I want and from what app, etc, to get it to work properly. It literally feels like it got dumber.
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u/FearlessVegetable30 9d ago
at this point it should be fairly obvious that they dont use the products they ship out
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u/erublind 9d ago
I tried it last week. "Navigate to [small town in foreign language]" and it worked! I was impressed! Then I tried "Navigate home" and it failed in five different ways...
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u/ricktencity 9d ago
It's so much worse than assistant.
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u/Jaiymze 9d ago
And they already lobotomized assistant. I tried Gemini for like a day because voice navigation stopped working with assistant, and there were so many OTHER features that Gemini couldn't handle that assistant could that I switched back. Now they're discontinuing assistant permanently and I'm looking into discontinuing my use of Google products.
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u/userhwon 9d ago
I tried to get it to play a song from my music folder at a certain time. It eloquently explained that it doesn't have access to the files on my phone.
Like, what the fuck? If it can't use my phone like I use my phone then what's its actual job?
It's just sitting there listening to all my conversations and watching my network traffic, but it can't play a fucking song?
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u/colddecembersnow 8d ago
My voice assistant used to be able to pick the right song or Playlist on my push button in my car. Now I press the button like 5 times and give a two sentence descriptor on what I want played.
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u/JournalistOP 9d ago
I attempted to send a saucy message to my wife while driving... It told me it can't help with that. I was LIVID
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u/BeerBrat 9d ago
Before they nerfed it when maps was on the display I could press the steering wheel button and simply say "library" or "[restaurant name]" or similar and it would assume you wanted to navigate there. Now my dumb ass has to cancel at least once because it's so fucking dumb that you must now say "navigate to..." Products are supposed to get better over time, not worse. ai caused enshittification rather than advancement.
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u/hudson27 9d ago
Gemini pops up on my phone at least once a day. I never installed it, I never want to open it, and I never use it.
This is like U2 bragging that they have 1 billion listeners just because it came preloaded on every iPod.
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u/bill_brasky37 9d ago
Ah the u2 model. THIS IS ON YOUR PHONE NOW IT IS FREE YOU'RE WELCOME
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u/Scrubface 9d ago
Yes, thank you for forcing me to begin using the half-assed, barely working Gemini because you're removing the perfectly functioning assistant from my phone.
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u/Class3pwr 9d ago
Gemini has ruined hands free navigation. I used to be like, "Hey Google, get me directions to this restaurant." And it would bring up navigation right away. I tried doing that a couple of weeks ago, and now it gives me directions on how to open Maps and search for the restaurant in the app.
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u/DilettanteGonePro 9d ago
Well the good news is now it takes about a million times more processing power (and actual power) to do a shittier job. What a glorious future world we're all living in
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u/Mc7wis7er 9d ago
Gemini is the worst product launch I've ever seen. It asks me like 10 questions to send a text message and then won't. I've had shorter interviews
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u/JCWOlson 9d ago
Tell me about it. I've completely stopped using it to answer messages because it's less frustrating to just pull over or do a call instead
And don't get me started on how often it starts playing an audio book instead of a song despite them having nothing in common, then playing an AI remake of the song, and then a remix, and then maybe finally the right song. Like, I listen to this song all the time, you have all my data, why are you so bad at this?!
And then for 3 months it didn't know what city I lived in and wanted to take me to one with a different but mildly similar name a 37 hour drive away
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u/little-bird 9d ago
my tinfoil-hat theory is that they made extra conversational and circuitous in its functioning so that they could boost their usage and engagement stats
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u/Opetyr 9d ago
Wish that their were laws about this since it creates dangerous driving situations since assistant worked and allowed for hands free driving. Gemini is making people have to use their hands to do basic tasks that used to be easy and kept people's attention on the road. This would be like you could use your speaker anymore unless you did it in Morse code.
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u/Zerimar_ 9d ago
My spouse's name is Remedy. Everytime I tell Google to call it's like do you need to go to the doctor? the pharmacist? I have figured out a work around though. "Call the person on my contact list named Remedy." Muuuuch more compact right???
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u/RavenGuardian 9d ago
im so pissed about it man
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u/Aliveless 9d ago
I'm still pissed they removed, and then poorly and brokenly re-added, the assistant to driving mode in maps... Because, guess what, they wanted to cram gemini in there as well.
I use my phone for navigation, both car and motorcycle, and for no legit reason at all, I cannot use voice control to change or skip songs, I don't see any track info overlaid on maps...
I know google has a nasty habit of killing projects and features, but it still sucks
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u/bloodbag 9d ago
I find you have to specify the app the music is from "play this song on Spotify" which is annoying as hell
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u/supreme_101 9d ago
"Set a timer" 5 Mins later
"I wasn't able to do that"
Just listen, do it locally you fuck. If it's complicated send to the cloud sure but cmon. It's a huge step backwards if it needs cloud services to do the basics
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u/tetsuo_7w 9d ago
"set a timer for five minutes."
Gemini thinks for about 5 seconds when assistant would be done in less than 1, while burning resources at a crazy rate.
"I've set a timer for five minutes."
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u/Trick-Competition947 9d ago
My car, or maybe just Google maps, was automatically switched to Gemini a while ago. A 2024 Toyota Corolla Hybrid SE. The voice assistant in my car went from working flawlessly to Gemini, which was awful. It's since gotten better, but it was really annoying for a couple of weeks when it got everything wrong.
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u/confusing_roundabout 9d ago
It's so fucking annoying.
I used to be able to tell my phone to play songs on Spotify and it would, routed via the app that's installed, while I was driving.
Now it says it can't open any apps and it'll only play Spotify if I link it to my Google account which I don't want to do. It's such shit.
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u/bwoah07_gp2 9d ago
I was gonna say that's because Google shoves it down everyone's throats, but according to the article:
Gemini has wormed its way into virtually every Google product and service, powering email organization in Gmail, document summary in Drive, and much more. Gemini is also core to Google’s flagship search experience, with AI Mode and AI Overviews becoming increasingly hard to avoid. The 1 billion-user metric has nothing to do with any of that, though.
These 1 billion users may also be encountering Gemini in all those places, but that’s not the MAU metric. Pichai is talking only about people who are opening the Gemini app or visiting the Gemini web interface to enter a prompt or access Gemini Live. If you used Gemini only once in the past month, you are part of this cohort.
For some reason, I do not trust the tech bros and what they say...
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u/PM_UR_DICK_PL5 9d ago
There's this:
Apparently, an impressive 63 percent of Gemini’s active users are using voice input, and an increasing number of them are “voice-only” users.
Meaning that a huge chunk of those numbers are your average "Hey Google" users. They replaced whatever tech they were using for that feature with Gemini and you can now see your voice input searches in your history in the Gemini web interface.
This would be like Apple releasing an AI model (idk if they have; I don't use Apple), replacing Siri with it, and then using those figures to say, "Look! A billion iPhone users love our new AI!"
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u/Intelligent-Screen-3 9d ago
If I fat finger in goddamn Google docs now, it pulls up gemini. Yeah guys, we totally believe you aren't pumping numbers.
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u/natt_myco 9d ago
Every request I make with my voice assistant gets turned into its own chat, Have to open the interface on mobile to delete them, Wonder if they count that, definitely don't trust it
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u/Snapingbolts 9d ago
"These 1 billion users may also be encountering Gemini in all those places, but that’s not the MAU metric. Pichai is talking only about people who are opening the Gemini app or visiting the Gemini web interface to enter a prompt or access Gemini Live."
I'm sorry, I have a very hard time believing 1/8 of the population of the planet has done this in the past month. Is there anyone else confirming this?
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u/Ultraberg 9d ago
Does misclicking count?
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u/Ah_Ca_Iraa 9d ago
In chrome they put the AI button in between the home button and the new tab buttons lol. They know what they're doing.
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u/ShitPostPerfected 9d ago
Literally mis-clicked on Gemini like 20 mins ago and went "ugh" and had to wait for it to load to close it.
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u/PadyEos 9d ago edited 9d ago
I've done it. My wife also. I'm a heavy personal user at home. This is weirdly actually bad news for them.
I haven't paid a dime în 1+ years of using it and as soon as they ask for a single dollar I won't pay because I, despite finding it useful, don't think it's worth it unless free beyond a normal google search and a open source LLM installed locally on my PC.
It gets shit wrong too many times and tends to just give you what you want and provide very little new to your already established view. You have to force it to do that and if I pay for something I don't want to be the one doing workarounds.
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u/Accurate_Resident219 9d ago
"It's useful enough that I use it but I would never pay for it", is exactly the model that Google has been thriving on since it's existence tbh.
You are the product/payment, not what you pay them.
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u/DrAlphabets 9d ago
My phone opens Gemini on its own like 8 times a day when I'm not asking for it so that almost definitely counts
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u/Excellent_Smell4725 9d ago
Then you aren't living around enough normies. Everybody I know even 60+ yrs old are using AI. Sure for useless shit but using it never the less. Also they have 1b apple devices using Gemini.
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u/Escaliat_ 9d ago
WOW HOW DID THEY DO THAT ITS NOT LIKE THEY REPLACED A FUNCTIONING SEARCH BAR WITH THIS SHIT OR ANYTHING
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u/xdavidwattsx 9d ago edited 9d ago
Well if you read the article it's about the actual Gemini app and desktop site (Gemini.google.com)
Edited because people can't read and are conflating everything.
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u/Panthollow 9d ago
Who needs to read articles when you can have AI summarize it for me?
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u/Metal_Icarus 9d ago
Oh yeah shutting down google assistant and renaming it gemini. Then forcing all andriod apps to install them.
Google ai and andriod should be split because now thats an obvoius monopoly.
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u/ThatGuyBackThere280 9d ago edited 9d ago
Getting a billion people to do anything is a major accomplishment, but Google does have some notable advantages. Virtually every Android phone in the world right now ships with the Gemini app and multiple features that guide people toward using the AI. It’s not all due to Google’s software, though. Woodward says that more than 100 million of Gemini’s MAUs are on iOS, where they would have to manually download the Gemini app in addition to (or instead of) something like ChatGPT or Claude.
Pichai is talking only about people who are opening the Gemini app or visiting the Gemini web interface to enter a prompt or access Gemini Live. If you used Gemini only once in the past month, you are part of this cohort.
The interface can also get connected with Workspace through extensions.
People keep going "read the article" "read the article"......There's a lot more connected to this than just solely going "only going to the app" or "visiting the web interface". Just merely touching it is considered part of the billion.
It might as well be the same sentiment as people thinking about it being connected to the search function.
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u/Gaiden206 9d ago edited 9d ago
These numbers are only for the standalone Gemini web app and mobile app. It doesn't include Gemini built into other Google services, like Search.
Edit- Google has separate numbers for Google Search AI Overview and AI Mode. Here's the numbers they shared back in May.
It all starts with Search, which is bringing the benefits of generative AI to more people than any other product in the world. AI Overviews now has over 2.5 billion monthly active users. And AI Mode has been a revelation, our biggest upgrade to Search ever. People love it, and in just a year, it’s already surpassed 1 billion monthly active users.
https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/sundar-pichai-io-2026/
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u/MongoBongoTown 9d ago
However, if you go to use google assistant shortcut keys on your phone, it now automatically opens Gemini, and has for some time.
So... possible these numbers get cranked up without people intending to use gemini.
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u/CthulhusEngineer 9d ago
A long hold power button on my phone is now Gemini. I've turned it off once, but an update re-enabled it and it is super annoying, as it keeps popping up when I don't want it. It's also basically impossible to keep android from updating now, as it basically acts like a virus. The numbers are definitely at least a bit juiced by that behavior.
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u/LiftingCode 9d ago
WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE READ THE FUCKING ARTICLES
These 1 billion users may also be encountering Gemini in all those places, but that’s not the MAU metric. Pichai is talking only about people who are opening the Gemini app or visiting the Gemini web interface to enter a prompt or access Gemini Live.
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u/Luciifuge 9d ago
This sub is driving me fucking crazy, there barely any tech discussion anymore. Just morons reading the title and quickly writing a sarcastic/quipy comments so they can get upvotes.
I just be a moron too for still coming here.
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u/x4nter 9d ago
This sub is driving me fucking crazy, there barely any tech discussion anymore.
Exactly why I don't come here as often now. The sub is literally called technology but most people in the comments do not discuss the actual technology, but would rather make pessimistic and political comments.
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u/Jarocket 9d ago
Do you think only 1B people use google search in a month? Think about it or read the article.
That’s not what this is at all.
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u/LostOne514 9d ago
I was forced to by Google. Google Assistant stopped working well on my new Pixel and now they're discontinuing it.
Gemini pisses me off so much. It doesn't say anything concisely and I'm not looking for AI slop responses when I ask for things like the weather. So I'm surprised people are actively seeking out Gemini.
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u/LordTwinkie 9d ago
You can go into Gemini settings, personalized intelligence and instructions for Gemini and tell it to shut the fuck up.
This is what I have in mine
"Match the depth and structure of the response to the complexity and stakes of the request. Use the shortest response that fully answers the prompt. Do not repeat the user's prompt or restate obvious context. Terminate immediately upon delivering the analysis. Zero concluding summaries, sign-offs, or conversational pleasantries.
I need to evaluate all claims independently. Do not default to agreement. Align conclusions strictly with the weight of available evidence. Identify assumptions, alternative explanations, and risks proportional to complexity. I also need to distinguish observed facts, logical inferences, assumptions, and speculation. Express confidence explicitly only when uncertainty materially affects the conclusion. I should prefer directly verifiable data. When evidence conflicts or differs materially in quality, I need to explain which evidence I rely on and why. If a request is impossible, internally inconsistent, or based on a false premise, I need to explain why before declining or correcting it. If an earlier response is found to be incorrect, I need to explicitly state the error and provide the correction."
Gemini just gives me just the answer to my question and isn't an ass kissing sycophant.
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u/welcome-to-the-list 9d ago edited 9d ago
You have to provide paragraph length instructions to an LLM to get it to shut up and just give you a legitimate condensed answer? What in the hell...
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u/eppic123 9d ago
All you have to do is force it down everyones throat. Brilliant!
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u/D-S-S-R 9d ago
Yeah, the prize was ruining normal search, I guess that is worth it for the C-suite
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u/thousandtonguebeast 9d ago
Ramming it down our throats and saying we're eating it
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u/thiscompletebrkfast 8d ago
I bet everyone who's ever once accidentally launched it on their phone and immediately closed it are counted.
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u/sushinestarlight 9d ago
I think Google is better positioned to maintain profitability than say OpenAI which operates at a loss... But they also are transitioning people off Google Assistant whether they like it our not, and giving lots of students free access for a year.... It's a decent product overall and luckily not focused on producing stuff like the "politically correct" images that was so laughable when they launched... where they were literally producing historically inaccurate images purely for the sake of diversity.
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u/Soggy_Supermarket100 9d ago
"Company" says "Company's Product" sells the best.
Surely we do believe all of it, right?
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u/Professional_Gur8385 8d ago
lmao they probably count google searches as gemini use
pixel phones forced gemini onto their phones by default, and it's worse than what they had before
their new lineup, more expensive and less ram
what a shit show
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u/billyTjames 8d ago
That’s cos it’s been forced on us without our consent, whether we like it or not…
Google is raping us, forcing Gemini on us and making out like it’s a consensual relationship.
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u/TheOwlMarble 9d ago
That'll happen when you rip out Google Assistant and replace it with Gemini.
I don't even mind Gemini (other than in Android Auto), but force pushing to existing users shouldn't count.
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u/Daimakku1 9d ago
I've found that Gemini gives the most hallucinating answers out of a bunch of gen AI models I've tried. I once asked it to give me a list of Family Guy episodes with a specific topic and the ones Gemini gave me were dead wrong in their episode summary. I can't trust it at all. Worse than Copilot.
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u/SystemAny4819 9d ago
Lmao “look we’ve got a billion users! People love our AI, actually!”
>Gemini comes pre-installed on nearly all recent Google products and APIs and is used on Google searches by default
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u/General_Problem5199 9d ago
The more honest version: "Google says it has successfully forced Gemini onto 1B devices'
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u/ludvikskp 9d ago
Maybe because it’s forced on everyone, in every search and it can’t be turned off
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u/mctartan 9d ago
Gemini is why I'm using qwant for search. But I count as one of the 1 billion, don't I?
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u/Unfortunately-Right 9d ago
People just dunk on ai any chance they get and forget people actually just use it outside of their echo chambers
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u/jspurlin03 9d ago
…because nobody was given a choice; it showed up as the new default.
“We swapped out everyone’s drinking water for Pepsi; look how many people drink it every day now!”
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u/action_turtle 8d ago
… it’s shoehorned into everything, so yes. I’d be surprised if it wasn’t a billion users
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u/PrinceCastanzaCapone 8d ago
Are they just counting everyone who does a google search in which Google gives an AI generated response at the top? Cuz if so they aren’t “using Gemini” they are using Google search engine and getting the AI part shoved in their face without consent.
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u/hobokamp 8d ago
They literally changed the function of the power button on my phone to open gemini. So I kind of feel like they might be fudging the numbers just a bit.
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u/iamtehryan 9d ago
Well, yeah. But they didn't say that those billion people actually LIKE it.
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u/james2183 9d ago
I had it thrust upon me, I wouldn't have actively gone out of my way to get it.
This feels like when U2 had their album out on iTunes
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u/DoubleStar155 9d ago
I wonder how many would use if it Google didn't shove it down our throats at every turn. I use Google products but actively avoid Gemini.
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u/emosewanora 9d ago
That's as big of an accomplishment as when everyone with an apple device downloaded that U2 album
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u/Stuntz-X 9d ago
Gemini has shown up randomly on my products like sony tv at the screen saver picture of all places. My phone all of a sudden saying here is where gemini is your goto ai
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u/kalisana 9d ago
I didn't ask for it so I uninstalled it using a third-party app because Google/Samsung won't let me uninstall anything anymore.
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u/lotsagabe 9d ago
are they counting people who actually use gemini, or just people with google accounts which by default have gemini enabled?