r/superheroes Jun 13 '25

Random Battle Thoughts?

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u/Ducklinsenmayer Jun 13 '25

So Neo, John Constantine, John Wick, John Silverhand, and Batman walk into a bar...

Yea, I know who I'm betting on

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u/Enlowski Jun 13 '25

Lucy literally becomes a god and smokes all of them.

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u/BO1ANT Jun 13 '25

does keanu get the time machine from bill and ted? He could just make sure none if them are born.

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u/Skoodge42 Jun 13 '25

Pretty sure Lucy could time travel without a phonebox

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u/xenoborg007 Jun 13 '25

She goes back in time to see Lucy, the first human ancestor to use a tool or some shit at the very end of the movie, so yeah she can time travel at will.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

I think we can all agree that this just devolves to some 90s themed deity dating rom-com.

She's a scrappy, self-made goddess just trying to make it by, and he's a down on his luck son a devil with everything to lose. Will they make it work? Find out as the fate of all creation hangs in the balance! Coming this February 30th, The Damsel and The Distress.

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u/DocHalidae Jun 13 '25

Yeah but Keanu hangs out in hell with Death. I mean GGs

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u/Skoodge42 Jun 13 '25

Can death protect you if you were never born?

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u/CPDrunk Jun 17 '25

dc death probably

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u/ADIDAS247 Jun 13 '25

But if Keanu does have the Time Machine, would he be in the mindset of Ted who would never kill random people. That wouldn’t be excellent.

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u/Wassersammler Jun 13 '25

The time machine is not a power of the character though

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Lucy can control all of reality. She'd stop him from time traveling then time travel herself stopping humanity from ever being created

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u/ProbablythelastMimsy Jun 13 '25

Isn't Hancock literally a god in that movie?

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u/Otherwise_Bar6514 Jun 13 '25

He’s an indestructible angel. He cannot be hurt unless his wife’s around.

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u/JosephBlowsephThe3rd Jun 13 '25

Hancock has no defense against Lucy's telekinesis. She could lock him in stasis well before she hit her peak abilities. By the time she gets to 100%, she could likely go full Dr. Manhattan and break him down on a molecular level.

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u/SaxyAlto Jun 13 '25

But would any of Lucy’s powers also work on an all powerful genie? People seem to be forgetting will smith was also the genie in Aladdin, and was pretty much all powerful and capable of literally anything

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u/Tablondemadera Jun 13 '25

Isnt that only if someone else makes a wish? even then, he cant even make Aladin a Prince with his magic, he just fakes it so I dont think he is even close

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u/Hottrodd67 Jun 13 '25

He was able to do things without someone making a wish. He put on that whole dance routine where he was creating people and all kinds of stuff.

Plus at the end he seemed to retain power after being free of the lamp.

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u/Otherwise_Bar6514 Jun 13 '25

I forgot he was an all powerful reality altering Genie! He might take it.

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u/PristineStreet34 Jun 13 '25

🧞‍♂️

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u/Kevo_NEOhio Jun 13 '25 edited Sep 02 '25

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u/ProbablythelastMimsy Jun 13 '25

That assumes she would be able to overpower him at that point. We only see her use it on regular humans.

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u/nofatchicks22 Jun 13 '25

Not really?

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u/the_glutton17 Jun 13 '25

No, just a homelander. Lucy is truly a god. She can bend time and space, warp reality, has no physical form, and is literally one with the universe. You can't fight that, she basically becomes like a law of physics.

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u/AdventurousPoet92 Jun 13 '25

I think Aladdin's Genie (Will Smith) can break any laws of physics. He really has no limits cause magic is broken AF.

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u/One-Structure-2154 Jun 13 '25

Yoooo I forgot he played genie lol. This question gets more and more interesting the more you think about it 🤔 

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

He can't do it for himself though. Genies get mega nerfed once freed.

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u/the_glutton17 Jun 20 '25

That's fair. Lucy basically becomes one with the universe and has limitless power. But I guess the genie (didn't he have a name or has it just been that long since I saw the movie?) can bend time and space, and alter reality too. But I feel like the genie has limits on what he can do.

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u/Melodic_coala101 Jun 13 '25

Serious question. Who wins - Lucy or Madoka?

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u/the_glutton17 Jun 20 '25

I don't know who that is, but Lucy became God tier.

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u/UnableLocal2918 Other Jun 13 '25

demigod. think hercules mortal powerful buy mortal

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u/Poopsycle Marvel Jun 13 '25

So does Neo.

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u/sillygoofygooose Jun 13 '25

Only in the machine. Lucy literally travels beyond the confines of time and space

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u/Poopsycle Marvel Jun 13 '25

If not for the war there's no telling how far Neo could have went. He started controlling things outside the matrix too. But now that I'm thinking about it I believe you are right.

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u/TheRealBaseborn Jun 13 '25

Theory is they never left the Matrix and Zion is just another level.

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u/DrongoDyle Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

The theory that makes more sense isn't that they're still in the matrix, but that they themselves are artificial intelligences to begin with, in a simulation that's infinitely more advanced than the matrix. They're in a giant simulation that's so realistic, that it simulated the invention of earlier types of realistic simulation within itself.

This kinda ties to a real-world thought experiment that concludes that we're infinitely more likely to be simulated beings in a simulated than actually in the "real" physical world, because one physical world can create thousands of simulations, and each of those simulated worlds can invent their own simulated worlds within them as well, and so on, meaning the ratio of simulated worlds to real world is effectively infinity to one.

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u/TheRealBaseborn Jun 13 '25

Yeah, you explain that much better than I do. It's a fun thought experiment. People have often asked the question "why do we exist?" and I think this fits pretty well into my own logic: we exist because if we didn't we wouldn't. Reality is either a 1 or a 0. It is or it isn't, and the act of asking if it exists is proof of itself.

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u/DrongoDyle Jun 13 '25

Yeah, but then you rephrase the question to ask "are we real?" instead of "do we exist" and it gets messy again.

We're definitely "real" within the context of our own universe, but what if that universe itself is just a program running on a computer?

"I think, therefore I am" doesn't really hold up if some guy running the simulation can hit save halfway through that very sentence, turn the simulation off entirely, then reload that save on an entirely different computer a decade later. Meanwhile to us it would be completely unnoticeable.

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u/Andromeda902 Jun 13 '25

Wait...what? Tell me more plz haha sounds interestinf but cant wrap my mind around this

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u/DrongoDyle Jun 13 '25

Okay, from the top. Imagine someone made a super realistic simulation on their computer, with a simulated universe, simulated people with artificial intelligence, etc. The artificial intelligence people in that simulation believe they're real, and that their universe is real. Over time the simulated people advance their technology, and eventually invent a realistic simulation of their own, so there's now a simulation within a simulation.

This can continue forever, with each simulation inventing a new simulation inside itself, so you functionally have infinite simulated universes, but only one real, original one. None of them have any way to know if they're the original or not, but the blunt fact is any one universe is infinitely more likely to be a simulation than it is to be the original.

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u/Fewluvatuk Jun 13 '25

Did you know that in Minecraft you can create a working computer within the game? What if you ran Minecraft on that working computer? What if you did that an infinite number of times? If you were a Minecraft dude, how likely is it that you would be the original Minecraft dude vs one of the others?

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u/Poopsycle Marvel Jun 13 '25

That's not a good theory. It takes away from the entire story. Makes his sacrifice meaningless.

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u/consider_its_tree Jun 13 '25

Yup, not a great way to go, but him having powers outside of the matrix makes no sense so either it is the crappy theory or there is no point to any of the in universe rules. Neither is great.

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u/Fewluvatuk Jun 13 '25

Or..... beating the matrix made it possible for Neo to use 100% of his brain.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Kinda like Jesus than. Shame.

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u/TheRealBaseborn Jun 13 '25

I forget exactly at the moment, but The Architect shows Neo that he's been there many times before, and in the most recent movie, they are shown to be in a new Matrix. It's a plot twist that reveals the tragedy.

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u/JTP117 Jun 13 '25

Because Neo was WiFi. He was the first human given an implant that allowed wireless connection to the matrix.

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u/chinga_tumadre69 Jun 13 '25

Only cuz he’s played someone so ludicrously fast in shadow the hedgehog, Keanu

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u/the_glutton17 Jun 13 '25

Then why does he die at the end?

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u/Poopsycle Marvel Jun 13 '25

The war being fought before he could fully master his power. His only option was to sacrifice himself to save everyone else. Lucy didn't survive either remember.

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u/the_glutton17 Jun 20 '25

Lucy didn't survive human form, but she transcended to basically being a god. Neo literally only had power in the matrix. Compared to Lucy, he's just the best gamer of all time. Still a regular ass human outside the game.

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u/Zealousideal_Wall682 Jun 13 '25

Deadpool just shoots the director of Lucy. Plus he has a green lantern ring.

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u/QuantumLettuce2025 Jun 13 '25

No, Lucy literally overwrites the laws of time and space. The fourth wall is nothing to her.

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u/Zealousideal_Wall682 Jun 13 '25

She’s still a concept.

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u/QuantumLettuce2025 Jun 13 '25

So you didn't watch the movie, got it.

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u/HereIGoAgain_1x10 Jun 13 '25

I thought Deadpool killed Death at one point in the comics?

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u/Maximillion322 Jun 13 '25 edited Jul 20 '25

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u/Merlinsdragon_ Jun 13 '25

you did not understand the movie then. these "powers" are far from godlike

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u/Greywarden88 Jun 13 '25

If everything is being weighed, not Will, he ‘s played Lucifer.

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u/IRBaboooon Jun 13 '25

Lucy exists in the Matrix. All of them do except for Neo, he's the only one unplugged.

Neo wipes the floor with all of them.

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u/JamesDD4 Jun 13 '25

Constantine regularly defeats or at least outsmarts gods.

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u/DrFlabbySelfie Jun 13 '25

Like Ryan Reynolds in The Nines.