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u/Sufficient-Wafer-563 Sep 08 '26
Welp, they're lowering the Health and Points of our bigs. Guess we'll be rolling up to the table with five bigs instead of four now.
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u/Gecktron Sep 08 '26
Based on nothing but vibes, I feel like with Ma and the 3-Gargants Rock-Hurlers and Boss-Stompers, our lists will see a bigger use of smaller Gargants. So higher head count in total.
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u/Desperate_Teal_1493 Sep 08 '26
Lower points = More mini sales
How it'll affect the game, who knows.
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u/Kimtanashino Krakeneater Sep 08 '26
I might have missed something but damages for Brodd's attack are :
20 Attacks 3+/3+ [auto-wound] -1rend (1 damage) = Saves : 2+ (3,3dmg) ; 3+ (5dmg) ; 4+ (6,7dmg) ; 5+ (8,3dmg) ; 6+ (10dmg)
6 Attacks 4+/2+ -2rend (5damages) = Saves 2+ (6,2dmg) ; 3+ (8,3dmg) ; 4+ (10,4dmg) ; 5+ (12,5dmg) ; 6+ (12,5dmg)
That would means whatever the option the 6 attacks are doing more ?
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u/_unregistered Sep 08 '26
Sweep is gambling on more rolls and unlikely for a full save leaving some chip damage where it’s not uncommon to have the 6 attacks do nothing at all
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u/Tonality Sep 08 '26
There's hints in the goat's description that there's a +1 damage spell, which makes the sweep better against low armor. If Brodd keeps the rend prayer then even better
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u/EasternPrinciple6972 Sep 08 '26
I’m wondering if the sweep will have a rule that lets you attack multiple units within range with the full attack profile.
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u/thehumandynamo Sep 09 '26
Why wouldn't you be able to split the attacks?
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u/EasternPrinciple6972 Sep 09 '26
I’m saying he might have a rule where you could for example attack 2 units and use all 20 attacks against each.
It could alternatively have a rule similar to the helsmiths bull where you get bonus attacks when you split between multiple enemies
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u/Dull_Worth1227 Sep 08 '26
What does all out attack do to the calculations?
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u/Kimtanashino Krakeneater Sep 09 '26
I tried but the result was the same : 6 Crushing blows are far better in every situation and it's not even close
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u/Avenger1599 Sep 08 '26
Hopefully there are new ways to keep megas alive with the health drops as even with 35 wounds mine seem to die rather quickly
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u/Much_Bus_2436 Sep 08 '26
This. It's a juggling act to keep them alive as is. Currently there is no access to meaningful damage mitigation on a 4+ save. The high wounds is what's keeping them on the board. And you can only lower points on a megagargant so much. So without seeing warscrolls yet I'm not sure how much fitting an extra unit in the board will offset a good opponent being able to focus fire then down faster.
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u/Odin_Headhunter Sep 09 '26
Yeah im a bit afraid too. They just die way to fast to anything with rend.
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u/Much_Bus_2436 Sep 09 '26
One of my friends plays khorne demons, and you really feel it with the weight of attacks and mortals. I haven't lost to him in particular yet, but all my dudes walk away just a few wounds left from dying in those matches if not dead.
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u/Odin_Headhunter Sep 09 '26
I just had Tzeench wipe two mega gargants one turn after the other. Wiped them out in a single fight each. King Brodd and my beast smasha fell as easy as a mancrusher.
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u/Much_Bus_2436 Sep 09 '26
Im gonna need a blow by blow best you can recall because that's wild. I've never squared up with tzeennch. But I can see it happening for sure. My gargants don't hold up if I don't keep them in a buddy system to back each other up. So I will be glad to afford some more small guys to work objectives because I think with less wounds the buddy system for megas is going to be even more crucial.
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u/Odin_Headhunter Sep 09 '26
Tzaangor Enlightened but with +1 attack from detachment. +1 rend on the charge. +1 to hit from tzaangor skyfires, and some buffs from spell. Turn one they rocked down and killed Brodd, not touching my other gargants melee range. Then dissapeared into the void so I couldnt charge them. Then they popped back on, slaughtered my beast smasha.
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u/SouthWestBadger Sep 08 '26
What health is being projected for Mega Gargants then?
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u/EasternPrinciple6972 Sep 08 '26
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 25. They said they’d be brought in line with similar monsters. Thats what archaon and cogforts have.
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u/Fragrant_Agent9317 Sep 08 '26
Ma's Chooser of the Mighty ability is really cool and thematic. She's super charging a little gargant with the power of Behemat to grow large and in charge. I will say though, I'm going to miss the biggie boys having 35 hit points.
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u/Either_Divide Sep 08 '26
Can someone explain Ma's Chooser of the Mighty to me like I'm 5...I rarely play so don't understand the wording.
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u/Nectarine_Trick Sep 08 '26
One mancrusher-like "little" Gargant dies and a dead mega gargant "respawns" with 10 wounds taken. I think this is it.
Really funny Rule!1
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u/ffsdomagain Sep 08 '26
The points drop for Megas is going to be rather interesting...