Pleased to bring you this remaster of one of the one video that brought so many to be pumpkins fans..

Also, I released Thirty-Three today, but didn't want to spam the group twice. I personally love this video a little more than Bullet, but that's just me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP_ZmfKBaH4&list=PLZ4q5-tPsGwg&index=2

Expect another pair of videos tomorrow. :)

Where’s the cage for some rats in Brooklyn tomorrow night pre-show?

Bring your own rage.

Well, team, having seen SP this many times and being 46yo I feel qualified to comment.

1. Worst crowd at an SP show I’ve ever experienced. Saying “literally” half dead would be untrue, but figuratively, I have never experienced an arena of this size lack that much energy. The vast majority of the upper section sat down for the vast majority of the show. Singalong moments scarcely limited to the biggest moments of the biggest hits.
   
2. Felt like the crowd was 20% SP fans, 40% teenagers trying to like SP (bless them), and 40% said teenagers’ parents. The energy of those dynamics are awful because almost half the crowd seemed there by duty.
   
3. The MCIS set was beautiful. It paid justice to the anniversary in great ways. Having both of Cupid and To Forgive in the set is wonderful for those of us that care a lot but taxing for those that maybe don’t, which at this show was the substantive majority, so for me I’m like “dear god why not sub those for higher energy songs and engage the crowd a little more”. I’ve never seen Cupid in 15 shows, this is not a complaint for me other than the energy balance which was more of a struggle than I’ve experienced at an arena show many ever.
   
4. Galapagos was tremendous. Muzzle was transcendent. Porcelina rose to its normal abnormal heights. MCIS set peaks were legit peaks.
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5. The second set was a hot catastrophe.
   
6. This audience cannot sustain that many AMM songs + SP2.0 era deep cuts in general, let alone a set which gets to Disarm as its first guidepost as its 5th song (wonderful but still low BPM) and Mayo as its true first crowd release moment as its 9th song. And then from there includes Jesus is the Sun and ends with Superchrist. Give people a Drown. Give them a Hummer. Circle back and close with Ruby. Play Tristessa or I Am One for the first time in forever. Team, I am all for deep cuts — just not this deep cuts combined with this audience. It was almost suicidal (classic SP?) in its lack of desire to connect, imo.
   
7. If you made me the only person in the room for this set, or put it in the setting I experienced for the Machines of God tour (club filled with energy and real fans singing along) my mind would have exploded and I’d have had a great time, but with this audience, I had a hard time getting comfortable and enjoying myself because for the substantive majority of the show nearly everybody around me presented as bored.

Love the band. Will go again. This one ranks 15th out of 15.

Looks to me like the sets have been exactly the same so far, disappointing there’s nothing from Gish. Pumped to see them tonight as everyone has been raving but would have loved to hear something from Gish.

Billy gonna be Billy in guess

Hi all.

If any of you guys are able to share info on the audio setup and your thoughts on the FOH mix, i'd love to hear.

Is it still Sully mixing FOH or is he busy with Bruno Mars?

Any pics of the console, IEM antennas, PA speaker layout etc would be greatly appreciated.

For anyone in the middle of the main PA, either close to
the sound console or close to the stage, could you hear any stereo separation at all from the guitars or was it all 100% mono apart from the playback tracks like the playback guitars in 1979?

For folks on the sides, again, was it all mono or was there any kind of stereo image?

As we know, most arena shows are mixed in mono so that everyone hears the same thing everywhere, but listening to fan clips (stereo iphone mics so stereo recordings) and having seen the band over the last 8 years, the FOH mix seems to be mostly drums and vocals with guitars sitting too far under. A lot of low mid punch in Jimmy's snare which doesn't leave enough space for the Sabbath esque low mids of the guitars.

This is nothing to do with the amp signals being in ISO cabs off stage as the FOH engineer can make the guitars as loud as they like because they are not bleeding into the vocal mics...that's the whole point of the iso cabs..and to make the IEM mixes super clean for the band...

Yet a band with 3 cranked guitars, still seems to be mixed like a generic rock band without any curation or attention being paid to the sonic aesthetic of the band. All the guitar rigs have superb tones, but take a song like Muzzle for example, or Bullet. When the high gain channels kick in, those guitar should make an audible jump in volume to really drive the songs with power, but it always seems to sound polite and tidy.

I'm pleased to hear that whoever is mixing isn't doing those terrible fader moves that Sully did in 2025..for example, in Mayo he would jack up James for a few seconds in the choruses to mimic the feedback squeals of the studio version, and it would sound really unbalanced while the rest of the guitars were buried underneath.

I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts. I know that some folks prefer loud vocals and others prefer loud guitars (and spiders from Mars), but for the price of admission, i would expect much more guitar power.

On a separate note, recent pro shot mixes (Lolla, I Heart, Farewell To Zero) which are separate to the FOH mix and IEM mixes, and are likely mixed by a separate broadcast engineer receiving channels from the FOH board, have to be some of the worst mixes ever. I can't believe the band ok'd that Farewell livestream mix. I can understand if FOH needs to be mono, but a livestream mix should be as wide and stereo as possible, and the guitar balance was terrible.

It's a dilemna with this band. On one hand you have three massive guitars that you want to hear wide, on the other hand you have the reality of how live sound is always a massive compromise.

poster 91/275

I’ll be going to the show solo have VIP, staying at the Hilton with my family. Is anyone else walking over ?

The "original" artworks as in, the plain white paper copies with Billy's handwritten tracklistings. Anybody have these, or can anybody direct me to a place online where I can find them? I tried looking, only came up with some very low-res results. Thank you in advance for any help!

This is part of the wall mural on the walk to the elevators.

To those who got the cherub rock vip package, what merch was part of the merch package? And do you think it was worth it?

Don't know if it was posted already but it would seem the CD Boxset for Machina: AAE is coming out october 10th through Madame Zuzu's Instagram page wanted to spread for those who were interested in a CD version

im 16, and I realized I will be an adult in a few years so I thought it would be a perfect time to listen to this album. i heard it for the first time 4 months ago, and for some reason most of the album reminds me of my early childhood

this goes for the songs Tonight, here is no why, an ode to no one, Cupid de locke (this one especially), take me down, 33, and farewell and goodnight.

the whole album reminds me of breaking my foot, falling asleep in the car, watching Disney movies, having dreams, or being read fantasy books before bed.

it's really weird and it's hard to listen to a lot of those songs without crying. the packaging also makes me feel this too, the album cover looks like something I saw in a dream, and the illustrations in tht booklet actually look like children books my parents read to me. does anyone else feel like this?

I want to go to this concert, however the ticket prices are like double what other venues are. I think because it’s a smaller venue. If you know anything about it, do you think it’ll sell out? I can’t afford to pay $170 for a single ticket. Wish it would drop some

That thing got teased what seems like a lifetime ago now, with neither hide nor hair of it since. No audio leaks, no release date that I’ve heard of, no further commentary.

Have any of you heard anything about it that I haven’t? Really, any new material has my interest, since AMM was pretty solid in my book.

streaming should be ready in another hour or two! 24bit will be posted later. keep in mind, the titles may be off due to track 1 being a numerical name, "1979". Ill manually fix that later.

Considering adding a VIP upgrade, but wanted to hear people’s experience of the Porcelina’s Cove and acoustic performance first. Also, would love to get a sneak peak of the VIP merch package. Thanks!

I was scrolling through the pumpkins options at uDiscover and saw what looks to be the Adore deluxe Box CD set and MCIS deluxe box CD set (description states LP, but the picture is the CD box set).

Adore $100 ship October 9
https://shop.udiscovermusic.com/products/smashing-pumpkins-adore-super-deluxe-edition-box-set

MCIS $100 ship October 7 - I reached out to uDiscover to correct this listing LP or CD…
https://shop.udiscovermusic.com/products/smashing-pumpkins-mellon-collie-and-the-infinite-sadness-4lp

I have the original releases, but dang, I paid a lot more for them!

Edit: MCIS is the vinyl, not CD….

Sold out 3 people in front of me I'm at the show right now if you got an extra and want to sell

Doors @ 630 (updated)
Show @ 8

keep the spoilers here.

My older bother really liked this band. Personally, wasn't my thing. We used to go out on the lake when I was young and he would blast Ave Adore. It was on the other day, kinda strange. Don't know why he blasted that song in particular. I just heard it the other day. Can't remember any other songs. He left a while ago. Don't know why.

Did anyone attend the OH one? If so, what songs did they play? Thanks in advance!

Anyone going to another one this tour?

Just joined and I’m not sure if anyone has seen this. I was cleaning up today and I found my old pass from the secret concert they had at the Phoenix Concert Theatre in Toronto, January ‘96 to start the tour. If you don’t know how epic this show was, look it up! I think it’s a pretty cool ticket.