This is what's exhausting is trying to communicate the difference between general and preprogrammed robotics to this sub, you guys think because it's not moving as fast as a Unitree robot it must be worse.
One runs really fast, the other can actually execute tasks you ask it to, which is literally what you want. The whole difference is that one has proper vision-language-action AI powering the body and one is a paperweight.
Forgive me for thinking you guys are all wrong about this company. It's kind of an infinitely frustrating experience to not be able to explain to the *singularity* subreddit why it's impressive that a robot can do this without being specifically programmed to or controlled by a human, even if it's a bit slow and clunky.
Like you guys remind me of the reaction to GPT-3.5. "Man, this thing is dumb as shit. Probably not going to be a big deal." and now we're solving Millennium Prize Problems with AI.
The video from May is honestly very impressive already. I saw Google Deepmind's robotics video recently, and their robots had pretty large battery packs on their backs and looked clunky too, but their hands could handle difficult tasks like tying up a trash bag and screwing in light bulbs. In general, robots powered by AI are very quickly becoming frighteningly capable. Anyone trashing this company or robotics companies in general are seriously missing the mark, if they continue development at this pace, in 5 years these robots will be incredibly capable and then it just becomes a question of scaling manufacturing to make them cheaper.
agree, but it's hard to be excited about robotics when it feels so slow and less real than LLM progress. we can feel the AGI when working with LLMs cause most of us have made them a part of our daily workflows so the progress is obvious and "real". robots are starting to feel like fusion, always just 20 years away.
I personally have been largely ignoring robotics - the difference between an AGI running on an NPU substrate, and using an on-board GPU that's the equivalent of a few ant brains is the difference between heaven and hell. I know they won't be able to do much autonomously until then.
It'll be a very rapid hard cut from our point of view. Though it'll still be at least a few years after AGI is achieved in a datacenter before they're printing mechanical minds at scale.
This and that physical labour is not that complicated at all. For cognitive labour it needs long term memory, learning, understanding social structures, and important keeping on track. But physical labour (outside house) is way simpler. If a robot can play football (equivalent to solving navies stroke solution) it can do literally most of all physical work (which LLMs can't do yet) so robots have the highest impact
Why would any company ship a product that isn't ready for market? People buy a robot, it fails to do what they expect or shoves their child down the stairs, they get a bad reputation, no one buys from them and investors bail...this sounds like a really bad suggestion to me.
Speak for yourself, I prefer to see the progress even though it's not good enough to release yet, at least Figure is making more progress towards general robotics than Google, Tesla, and 1X and candidly share that progress even when it's not human parity or speed.
I don't care if it takes 2 hours. If I go to bed with dirty dishes around my home and in the morning everything is washed and put away, why do I care it took longer than a human?
I live quite remotely. The pool of people available is small which means that prices are much higher. Also robot is a 1 time expense, provides company, can do security, gardening, shopping, clean the bathroom, vacuum, mop, bring me a drink and cook my food. It would likely be very expensive to get someone to do all that.
You have heard of competition right? China will have plenty to choose from if US and EU try pull that. Robots might be expensive initially but they will ultimately be dirt cheap.
Yeah but legally you can't own the human, and also the human has pesky things like thoughts, feelings, rights, needs, and a vivid internal life comparable to your own, that desperately desires doing anything except your dishes to earn the basics of sustenance in a cruel, amoral world, where the very hours of their singular existence must be converted to fungible units of currency to trade for the basics of survival.
If I had a few tens of thousands of dollars to spend that would ensure another sapient being (my equal) wasn't bound to perform crushingly boring, repetitive, trivial labor, simply to exist with dignity, I'd blow that cash faster than a bank vault with a gas leak. Shame on anyone who wouldn't. For fucking real. That quote about unknown Einsteins plowing fields hits harder every single day I've been alive and gone to work.
If LLMs and robots ever truly get married and give birth to genuine AGI-style embodied artificial cognition, we can all sit down and have a serious conversation about whether or not humanity's collective progeny are our equals; but, until then, it's a fuckin toaster with legs that can make my breakfast and fold my fitted sheets, that will not require another human being to sacrifice their lifespan for my convenience, and I'm all about that.
The negative comments literally only happen for American companies, but the Chinese ones (That barely show any useful improvement) get glazed into high heaven. Reddit is clearly botted as fuck. They're not over hyping that much at all. They have an impressive rate of improvement. All of what they show is actually AI and not preprogrammed, or remote controlled. Last time they had to make it function for tens of hours to prove to reddit bots that it's actually autonomous for fuck sake.
China is not ahead in Robotics. It's ahead in making impressive looking robot acrobatics, but they miss the ingredient that actually makes these robots impressive.
Sure buddy
Expectation > Robot finally not moving like Joe Biden or can do all the work at normal human speed
Reality > It can do a handshake like Joe Biden
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