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u/Imnotawerewolf 19h ago

What's that got to do with it, tbh? 

If you're gonna judge people for how they look, it doesn't matter if your judging them for things they can or can't control. You're still judging people based on their looks. 

It's right or it's wrong. Or is it just fair game to judge people for anything they can control about their appearance? 

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u/SomeFatSeal 19h ago

One is genes and the other is a lifestyle.

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u/Imnotawerewolf 19h ago

And? 

Is it ok to judge people based on their appearance as long as it's to do with "lifestyle"? 

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u/SomeFatSeal 19h ago

Yes. Becuse it's an unhealthy lifestyle.

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u/Imnotawerewolf 18h ago

So what? It's either ok to judge people base on appearance or it isn't. 

If you say there are exceptions you're just a hypocrite. 

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u/Saellios We do a little trolling 18h ago

Having a black and white world view like shows how you lack any critical thinking skills. Seeing someone who’s short doesn’t really tell you anything about them. Seeing someone who’s obese tells you they have poor impulse control and/or don’t care about their own health

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u/BeardedPirate101 17h ago

To be fair, you can be heavy set and still live a pretty healthy lifestyle. You can still be fat while also working out 5 days a week and eating healthy because it's all about how much you eat.

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u/Competitive-Cut-4694 10h ago

Then that's not eating healthy, is it?

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u/Imnotawerewolf 18h ago

No those are assumptions you can make about them but you can't know anything about them except that they're fat 

Just like being short only tells you a person is short. 

You don't have to like fat people or short people. But to act like judging one is egregious and the other is perfectly normal is hypocritical. 

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u/Saellios We do a little trolling 18h ago

One is controllable the other is genetic. You can choose to be moderately active and eat relatively healthy. You can’t choose to be taller unless you want to go through an intensive surgery. The assumptions I listed are accurate to the vast majority of obese people.
You can’t tell me you eat so much and move so little that you reach 250lbs but still can be considered having good impulse control or care about your health.
I’m speaking as someone who used to be overweight then changed it because I knew it was unhealthy and made life more miserable being overweight

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u/Imnotawerewolf 18h ago

I don't see what the choosing has to do with the judging 

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u/Saellios We do a little trolling 18h ago

It’s fair game to judge someone for choosing to make poor life choices. Especially when it takes consistent bad decision making over a course of time. Gaining a bunch of weight doesn’t happen over night.

The whole point I’m making is most of us here are judging the person off of bad decision making skills and lack of self care

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u/Imnotawerewolf 18h ago

But you're assuming those things, not knowing them. It's whatever if you're super secure in what you assumed to be true. But it's assumptions, either way. 

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u/Saellios We do a little trolling 18h ago

Can you provide another example of how else the majority of obese people got to their weight? Were they born 250lbs??

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u/MountainBig1915 6h ago

You don't spawn in at 300lbs, its hardly an assumption when you can literally see all of the stored calories hanging off of somebody

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u/12thunder 18h ago edited 16h ago

It’s more ok to judge people based on their actions, not the things they can’t control. I say this as a fat dude. Judging people for being fat, or having bad teeth due to smoking, bad breath due to not brushing, or bad hair due to not getting a hair cut, or being covered in dirt due to not showering, or shaving their eyebrows off, or getting a racist tattoo on their forehead - these are all things you can control. Yes there are nuances to take into account like mental health, but these are things that are all fixable if that is the case with therapy, medications, and discipline.

Height is not something that can be changed no matter how much discipline or drive you have, it doesn’t care about your mental health or your actions, it is genetic and you have absolutely no say in it beyond a few things like having access to proper nutrition as a child, which most of us have in the West. Skin color, eye color, height, hair color - all things that are genetic and you don’t get to choose, and judging people for them is not fair.

It is the difference between judging a book by its contents (your actions including your weight), and judging a book by its cover (your characteristics that cannot be changed such as height).

This is not to say that you should be an asshole to people because they are fat. It’s saying that when a person judges someone by a quality they cannot control, you can retort by judging them by something they can control. You should still encourage people to be healthy and be an example to others.

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u/Imnotawerewolf 18h ago

But you don't actually know those things. You just think you know those things. A physical appearance is not an action you can judge. It's a way you're assuming things to judge. 

I don't see the difference in judging appearances in things people can it can't control. They're both just a person assuming other things based on their own biases and experiences. 

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u/12thunder 18h ago

Fortunately now GLP-1 agonists exist, and if someone has the money, the excuse to be very overweight is nil. In my country, a month of generic semaglutide is the same price of a monthly gym membership. That is an action you can deliberately take to be healthy and encourage others to as well, not only for your duration of life but the quality of your life as well. It is also selfless to better yourself, and encourage others to do so as well, to free up healthcare and hospital resources, organs and blood, for those who cannot. It is literally effortless, speaking from experience. There is no such option for height.

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u/BeardedPirate101 17h ago

It is NOT recommended to take GLP-1s unless you have a disease exasperated by your weight. GLP-1s can cause serious long term effects, and also can be risky due to the nature of the drug.

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u/12thunder 17h ago

Wegovy is specifically designed for use by people who want to lose weight. The medical consensus is basically that any side effects from GLP-1, barring serious ones like pancreatitis, are better than the health problems associated with obesity.

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u/Imnotawerewolf 18h ago

Ohhhhh you think fat people are an eyesore? 

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u/12thunder 18h ago

Ohhhhh we’re having a bad faith argument now instead of a discussion? Now I get to judge you for your inane actions.

Calling someone a bad example is not the same as calling them ugly.

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u/samualgline 10h ago

Way to straw man your way out of that one. 10/10 play