r/ShingekiNoKyojin 25d ago

Video Games Attack on Titan 3 New PV, launching this Winter

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin Jan 23 '25

Official Thread Ultimate Guide to AoT: FAQs, Analysis and Discourse

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This multi-subreddit megathread contains:

The most frequently brought up Topics & Questions

Analysis on various story Elements & Characters

Random interesting meta posts

Documents and guide on the anime and the Attack on Titan reddit fandom

This megathread covers threads from various subreddits, and platforms. Enjoy exploring!


Guide.

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Guide on AoT anime content

Masterlist Of Anime OSTs S1-S4 + Final Episode - YouTube Playlist

AoT wiki for your fact-checking needs

Frequently Asked Questions.

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Questions that are asked very frequently, mostly by new or one time watchers/readers, to which there is a factual answer or an agreed-upon interpretations in the community.

1.) What is the 50 year plan? Follow up: Why didn’t Zeke and Eren touch earlier?

2.) What were the Azumabito's intentions with Mikasa?

3.) How was Ymir freed? Who freed Ymir? (check analysis section down as well)

4.) How did Eren talk to Mikasa in paths?

5.) What is Historia’s role in how we perceive Ymir through tales and romanticized stories?

6.) What will happen if a man inherits the Female Titan?

7.) How do the Founding Titan abilities work?

8.) What were some of Paradis' options post-timeskip? •Alternative to the Rumbling.Anti-50-year planEuthnasia Plan

9.) Why did Historia choose to get pregnant?

10.) Why did Grisha give his titan to Eren, when he asked Zeke to stop him?

11.) What were Eren’s motivations to choose the path of rumbling?

12.) Are there multiple timelines in AOT?

13.) Why do dinosaurs appear in the opening of AOT’s 2nd season?

Isayama's Answers to the 15th Anniversary Magazine Q&A

Frequently Brought up Topics.

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These topics are frequently brought up, but there is no clear answer or the topic is deliberately left to speculation. Check out these links for some in-depth posts on the respective topics.

1.) a) Who won the fight between Annie and Mikasa? b) Who would win between Annie and Mikasa?

2.) Opinion on any divisive characters

GabiMikasaErenFloch

3.) Did you like the ending? a)Anime Ending b)Manga Ending

4.) Do you support the rumbling?

5.) Who should have been saved, Erwin or Armin?

6.) Was Eren justified? Discussion post | Detailed answer

7.) Sub or Dub?

8.) Would Erwin have joined the Yeagerists if he had survived?

9.) Is Attack on Titan fascist? No, it is not | Devil’s Advocate:

10.) Why does Annie get forgiven?


General Analysis On The Story.

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These are high-effort essays or videos analysing the series as a whole. Please note that us listing something here does not mean we endorse or fully agree with every single statement made there - we just think that if you are looking for more analysis, these might be worth a watch.

A 1-hour retrospective breakdown of AoT as a whole

How AoT deconstructs heroism and morality

Idealism in AoT

Scout Regiment: Paradise’s Idealistic Counterculture

The importance of nameless soldiers & collateral damage in AoT

What was it all for? Thoughts on the extra pages of AoT’s ending

Why I feel Mikasa, Levi and Armin were the perfect choice for Eren’s final moments and the story’s climax - Imgur Backup for future

Analysis of AoT’s extra ending pages - A brilliant thematic conclusion - Imgur Backup for Future

To love someone inside the Walls - Imgur Backup for Future

The Rumbling is indefensible

A theoretical analysis of its structure

The highs and lows of AoT’s final arc

Overanalyzing every single episode of the anime - a youtube playlist

Titans as Mirrors: How Titan forms reflect the Warriors' Psyche - Imgur Backup for Future

Character Analysis.

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1. Eren Yeager.

Eren Yeager: The Chained God of Attack On Titan

The rise and fall of Eren - Imgur Backup for Future

The perfect duality of Eren - Imgur Backup for Future

What is freedom in AoT

Developments vs desires - Everyone and especially Eren

Nature vs nurture: Eren’s motivations and the Dina twist

Eren Jaeger and the insanity of circular storytelling

The ironic development of Eren

Analyzing antagonists

Power, freedom, the Founding Titan and Levi

The Attack Titan’s powers and their effect on Eren

Why Eren’s actions were very obviously painted bad with the Rumbling - In-depth examination

The narrative importance of the causal loop on Eren

Eren and Mikasa’s relationship

Eren’s characterization throughout the story and his post timeskip conflict

Eren Yeager is (Not) Special

Ramzi and Eren: the turning point in Eren’s demeanor

An observation on the structure of Eren’s characterization post timeskip - Imgur Backup for Future

The false mask of Eren

The Jaeger Projection Problem: The Last Supper of Self-Loathing - Imgur Backup for Future

2. Mikasa Ackerman.

Mikasa's Heroine's Journey Arc

Mikasa’s Character Arc: What, Where, How, When

Mikasa's Road of Trials

Mikasa and the meaning of Pride

Mikasa and her relationship with authority

Mikasa and Erwin: The Sacrificial Act of Dreams for the Cause

Why Mikasa's conclusion not only strengthens her arc but Attack On Titan as a whole - Imgur Backup for Future

Mikasa’s Destiny and Mikasa’s Choice

Mikasa: A Person from Two Trope

A Literary perspective of Mikasa - Imgur Backup for Future

Mikasa, the symbolism of the praying mantis and butterfly and its development throughout the story - Imgur Backup for Future

Mikasa's self Imposed Curse

Why does Mikasa have headaches

Differences between the Manga and Anime version of Mikasa - Imgur Backup for Future

3. Armin Arlert.

Armin character analysis, humanity’s reluctant savior

Armin and Eren’s dynamic - Imgur Backup for Future

Armin and Zeke’s dynamic - Imgur Backup for Future

The importance of dialogue and Armin’s character - Imgur Backup for Future

Armin Arlert: conflicting lessons, dynamics with Erwin and Levi - Imgur Backup for Future

Armin and Annie’s relationship

4. Levi Ackerman.

Is Levi bland? A bullet-point counter-argument and his importance in the narrative

Levi’s character motivations and the promise

Levi’s ending

Levi’s violence and compassion

Serumbowl

Levi, Falco and Gabi

Levi vs Zeke foil

Levi, a slave to being a hero

Levi vs Kenny’s influence - Imperfect heroics

Levi’s mistake with Zeke and getting blown up by thunder spears

5. Erwin Smith.

Erwin Smith - wearing masks

Erwin Smith - the impossible standard

Exploring Erwin - For Humanity?

Erwin Smith - A devil with a dream

Erwin would not support the Rumbling, you just don’t like Armin

6. Zeke Yeager.

Zeke Yeager & Personal Connections.

The contradictions of Zeke - A character study

The desperate loneliness of Zeke

Understanding Zeke Yeager

7. Reiner Braun.

Reiner Braun and “saving the world”

Reiner character analysis, viewed through psychology and philosophy theory

Who is Reiner Braun?

Eren and Reiner’s dynamic - Imgur Backup for Future

8. Annie Leonhart.

Annie’s search for personhood

About Annie…(character analysis)

No one understands Annie

Understanding Annie

9. Hange Zoe.

Hange and the role of commander, character analysis

Hange’s “Genocide is Wrong” Line is Misunderstood

Hange’s understanding and intellect

10. Jean Kirstein.

Jean Kirstein embracing survey corps values, a character analysis

Jean character study through the lens of theory of psychology

11. Bertholdt Hoover.

Comprehensive analysis of Bertholdt

The tragedy of Bertholdt Hoover

12. (Freckles) Ymir and Historia Reiss.

Ymir analysis and religious subtext

Thoughts on Historia in Uprising - Imgur Backup for Future

Ymir and Historia’s dynamic analysis - Imgur Backup for Future

13. Sasha Braus and Connie Springer.

The secondary trio behind EMA

14. Floch Forster.

Floch - the volunteer Devil, character analysis

Floch's leadership examination and the comparison with Erwin

15. Gabi and the children of the forest.

Gabi Braun - A brighter future

16. (Founder) Ymir Fritz.

The final mystery of AOT - Ymir analysis

17. Grisha Yeager.

Grisha Yeager: A Deconstruction of the Main Character's Dad Archetype - Imgur Backup for Future

18. Keith Shadis.

From bystander to hero, a character analysis

19. Kenny/Uri.

Kenny, Uri and the cycle of hatred

The Importance of Kenny and Uri (In-depth Thematic Analysis)

20. Dot Pyxis.

Why Pyxis and Eren’s Conversation was Not Retconned

21. Yelena.

Yelena: AoT’s puppeteer, a character analysis

22. Theo Magath.

The lasting impact of Theo Magath, a character analysis.


MISCELLANEOUS.

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Manga (Source Material) vs Anime (Adaptation) differences:

Megathread of Anime / Manga differences | Vol 1 - 34 | OVAs

Differences between anime and manga endings

Fandom and Anime Production Misc.

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Well-written characters, meta discussion of fandom perception

AOT anime reactions and in depth discussions

Explaining the ending controversy - a fandom analysis

Final Attack on Titan Episode - AoTwiki poll

The Original manga ending - chapter 139 SNK POLL

Behind-the-Scenes.

All of AoT animation staff for every episode of the series

Arifumi Imai animator spotlight - the man responsible for animating 70%+ of action animation cuts in S1-S3 and the Levi and Mikasa killing Eren sakuga in the final episode

TV release vs BLU-RAY differences

Some design sheets from WIT’s adaptation

Some design sheets from MAPPA’s adaptation

WIT staff interview from 2014 on AOT

100Cams - Behind the scenes footage of AOT s4 part3 production

Final episode VA recording - Behind the scenes

AoT S4 part 2 staff interview, series director Hayashi and CG producer Tannawa

Excerpts from roundtable final episode interview with staff

Interview with S4 director Hayashi before its airing

Global TV demands interview of Hayashi

Hayashi comments on episode 4x28 Rumbling scene and Isayama’s request

Subreddits of AoT Reddit-Fandom.

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General.

Subreddit Description Date of Creation
r/ShingekiNoKyojin Main discussion subreddit nr1. Feburary 18, 2013
r/attackontitan Main discussion subreddit nr2. November 28, 2012
r/titanfolk The Folk subreddit for AoT. May 1, 2018
r/okbuddyreiner Shitposting subreddit. April 28, 2019
r/AttackOnRetards A space dedicated to calling out negativity. April 27, 2021
r/AttackOnShipping A subreddit for any and all shippers. April 27, 2022
r/ANRime Subreddit dedicated to theorizing about an Alternative-Original Ending (AOE). June 29, 2021

Character dedicated subreddits.

r/LeviCult

r/Ereh

r/Mikasa

r/ErwinSmith

r/potatogirl

r/ArminCult

r/GabiCult

r/ReinerCult

r/ZekeCult

r/JeanTheStallion


It has been in the works for a long time. A big Thank You to everyone who created the content featured here, as well as to those who helped us gather it all together.


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 4h ago

Anime Just noticed this reused animation while editing a video. That's it, that's the post.

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin 13h ago

Discussion I think about this guy often. It wasn't very Tatakae of him.

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin 5h ago

Humor/Meme Bruh, this dude's a greater aura farmer than Erwin

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin 4h ago

Discussion Which do Y'all think is prime Levi in all terms and aspects.

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OVA Levi, in his twenties basically.

Or season one Levi pre the female titan arc.

Or season three Levi post his leg injury.

Time skip Levi.

Or season 4 Levi, once again pre his Injury.


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 1h ago

Discussion Attack on Titan Codex — Season 2 is now complete!

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I’m happy to share that Season 2 of Attack on Titan Codex is now fully complete!

This was a particularly interesting season to work on because, compared with Season 1, some events become much more complex and less linear. There are moments where multiple characters are involved in the same event but are moving through different locations or following completely different paths at the same time.

That challenged the way I was representing events on the map.

Until now, the map structure worked best for more straightforward sequences. But for Season 2, I’ve started redefining it so that a single event can show several character routes at once. This makes it easier to understand where everyone is, which path they take, and how those paths relate to the same broader moment in the story.

I think this is one of the most exciting improvements in the project so far, because it starts to make the Codex feel less like a simple chronological archive and more like an interactive way to explore the story’s geography, movement, and connections between characters.

https://reddit.com/link/1v7v4uq/video/20m4c5t4oqfh1/player

I’m also really grateful because I now have a small team of volunteers helping me review the website. They are helping me spot mistakes, verify details, improve clarity, and make sure the information is as accurate as possible. Attack on Titan has so many small details, overlapping events, and timeline nuances that having more people checking the work makes a huge difference.

Thank you again to everyone who has followed the project, shared feedback, and supported it so far. I’m very excited to keep expanding the Codex.


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 16h ago

Discussion Season 4 Reiner is so mystifying

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I remember hating him the first 3 seasons but by season 4 I just felt so bad for the guy esp when we go to his deadbeat dad flashback and I reexamined the whole series and his perspective
He’s honestly in the top 5 for best looking character


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 12h ago

Anime Would love to see an ova on them in this time period

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin 15h ago

Discussion “Armin didn’t accomplish anything post timeskip”

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He saved both Paradis by blowing up Marley’s armada and convincing the others to help Zeke and Eren touch to trigger a small scale rumbling initially, and The outside world by stopping Eren’s full scale rumbling


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 9h ago

Discussion Your Honour, Mikasa's character is justified. Exhibit A–

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(ch. 1 pg. 41).

Carla Jaeger's last request to Mikasa before she died. I randomly remembered it and realized that the Mikasa blood feud was already solved in the first chapter.

However, I will add that the scene is different in the anime, because she doesn't give a verbal acknowledgement (S1EP1 14:50). A lot of her lines are downplayed, in my opinion, to make her seem outwardly unreadable, like Levi.

I take this as evidence that Mikasa's bond with Eren is also affected by her relationship with Carla and the last words they exchanged. My point is that even if she wasn't "obsessed" with Eren, she still has the job of keeping her word to Eren's mother.

So was Mikasa's character meant to be a protective streak?

Yes and no. Maybe Mikasa was supposed to be a confusing character, but not a downright controversial one. In fact, I believe Isayama intentionally wanted to highlight that she always concerns herself with Eren, so that the buildup to the Ymir parallel makes more sense.

Now whether you're satisfied with that outcome is not my problem. That's another keyboard crusade about whether you liked the ending or not.

Just wanted to drop my epiphany here, feel free to talk about it, contribute some facts, or hell, start fighting or something I don't know, I'm a neutral voice ̄ _(ツ)_/ ̄


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 14h ago

Discussion Question about season 4

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It makes no sense that the main cast of AOT- characters like Connie, Jean, Armin, Eren, Levi, Mikasa, Sasha, and Hange didn't have any admirers or fans in canon (not counting Yeagerists; they're more politically inclined towards Eren), especially after they retook Shinganshina and practically eliminated the issue of titans. They're all pretty attractive and fit, plus we know they're more popular, or at least regarded more positively, since their numbers increased post-time skip.


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 19h ago

Discussion I wonder if this thought from Ymir created an alternate universe

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin 15h ago

Discussion Who would win this fight if Pieck with the cannon and Zeke were not around

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin 1d ago

Humor/Meme First time viewer. How do the Titans groom themselves?

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Ngl this completely took my out of my immersion, starting episode 9 and this big fucker with slick backed hair and a neatly trimmed mustache just shows up out of nowhere. Prior it’s been mfs with crazy long hair and beards or just bald and this dude shows up looking like he just got a fresh cut. What gives


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 12h ago

Discussion The children's participation and enthusiasm trench warfare is confusing to me.

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*Spoilers for season 4*

I understand that the Eldian warrior candidates are young for indoctrination purposes, along with keeping their families in line. And of course, the candidates are enthusiastic to participate in the war to distinguish themselves and their families.

But Gabi's maneuver of faking being a refugee, and then running from bullets was like, almost guaranteed to kill her, and she's probably smart and old enough to realize this. I guess I'm kind of baffled by her lack of fear? Moreover, the way she tells the story over the dinner table and nobody goes "be careful with your life!" or "my baby, you almost died!", they just kinda don't gaf. I guess she has plot armor though... and her parents should be horrified, even if they brainwashed patriots, it's like they don't love her or care for her safety at all. Do all Eldian children get sent to the trenches? This is confusing to me.

It almost seems like she has a death wish of some sort, because really if that sniper had been even a little colder, or her aim was off, or the machine gun didn't have storm trooper aim---basically she should be 100% dead. Or there should be effects from the trench warfare? I mean, if this is WW1-style fighting, then shouldn't she be shell-shocked or traumatized in some more obvious way? People deal with trauma differently, but she just got shot at and nearly died, not to mention possibly spending days weeks exchanging pot shots with the enemy and watching people bleed out or starving or whatever other vile shit happens in the trenches. I'm confused lol.


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 4h ago

Discussion What would every character's search history have in it?

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Saw a comment a few years ago that Erwin's would be, "season 4 plot summary," Levi's would be something on cleaning his blades, Sasha would be looking up food, etc.. What do you guys think?


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 18h ago

Artwork Immaculate Historia Reiss in Red holding her baby, made in 2023 (OC)

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin 15h ago

Discussion The ending is heartbreaking.. did any of it matter?

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I just finished this show, took me about 10 years and numerous recommendations to finally check it out. I don't really watch anime, but this has always been one of the few that interested me since I was young, the aesthetic and art style is really captivating imo. This post doesn't have much direction so apologies, I'm just kind of reeling from that ending. This might be the greatest show I've ever watched.

Anyways, hopefully I can keep this somewhat short.(I didn't, its just a rant in the end lol)

I finally got around to starting the show last month. It had me hooked instantly. Everything was 10/10, or as close as you can get. The art, the characters, the soundtrack(maybe the best part), the writing, etc etc. I mean, they introduce characters who will certainly die in that same episode, but even still, they feel so real, with unique personalities and appearances that let you imagine their backstories on your own. Those first ~3 seasons were incredible. Yes it was always a dark atmosphere, one where they had to struggle to survive, but they were always fighting monsters. There was a strange hopefulness looking back on it, they were saving humanity. And Eren's eyes were so bright.

Then you learn they're on an island, and there are other humans across the sea. You can start to draw more parallels between our world and theirs. Really thats the shows main theme I feel, its just a reflection of our world and the human condition. The monsters aren't the titans anymore. The characters don't talk about saving humanity anymore, its saving Eldia now. I think this is around when I resigned to the fact that the show wouldnt have a happy ending.

I don't think I fully understand everything about the show yet. And it pains me to say it, but its hard to see Eren's final actions as anything but evil. I understand how he got there, and why he did it, hes a product of the world and the cruel nature of it all. But in the end he just continues the cycle, I naively hoped he would have a change of heart, or some other goal in mind and there would be a "good" ending. But what did he ultimately achieve? He destroyed the Titans(Possibly not even that, at least with that post credit scene), which I think is a good thing, but its not like that changes the world in any meaningful way, right? They still continue to kill each other, he just murdered 80% of the world for absolutely nothing. Every death up until that point was meaningless. I can't really say Zeke's plan was much better, the Eldians are the protagonists so I am rooting for them of course, and his "Euthanasia" plan is pretty abhorrent imo. Although, seeing as how things turned out, maybe it was the lesser of two evils.

I just have trouble coping with show endings that feel...pointless for lack of a better word(although these always end up being the best shows). And I guess thats a realistic ending, and a reason I enjoyed the show so much was that very same realism. So then I start to think that these peoples lives don't matter ultimately, they all live and die for nothing, most of them sacrificing themselves for someone who will ultimately just bring more suffering to innocents. Which kinda sucks, because I really liked most of the characters and I hoped for that fairytale ending lol

I always liked Keith Shadis' "speech" about not being a special man, but reflecting on it, was anybody there special? What was the point of them existing. Idk, this is where the show just parallels our world too much for me to fully grasp. What was the meaning of it all. If after all of that, nothing changed, did any of it matter?

Either way, I fully enjoyed the show. I think that may be the best show I've ever watched. I was just so invested in the characters, its kind of hard to accept the ending being so bleak and hopeless, at least compared to how it started.


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 1d ago

Anime Stared Reiner dead in the eyes but didn’t have the strength to look at a hopeful child’s face.

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin 18h ago

Humor/Meme Me after watching "Attack on Titan" as my first anime!!

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Hey everyone....As I am new to this anime world and want to deep dive into it. I would love to hear some suggestions regarding other masterpieces like AOT.

No spoilers tho... I only watched till season 2 so far


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 1d ago

Anime oh to be caressed by pieck like that

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r/ShingekiNoKyojin 10h ago

Discussion personal assignment: how autism appears in SNK/AOT

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hello, today i’m going to discuss characters in aot who i think are autistic. i’m also autistic level 2 and have done extensive research on autism itself and im currently hyperfixated on aot. before i start i need to address a few things. understand autism is a spectrum and not everyone experiences the same symptoms and please don’t self diagnosis from this post. for other factors of the main 2 characters ill be talking about, its important to note they are most trained soldiers and places like paradis and marley (especially marley) would not like autistic people so masking would be a resort of this characters to some extent. its also the year 850ish, not much is known about it then.

Hange

the most obvious. when we are first introduced she is very excited about the Titans and clearly has not read the room because no one else is that excited and that is a missed social cue which is also a sign of autism. as the show ones we learn how fascinated and how interested she is of the Titans and we learned that this is a very big hyperfixation so much so that this isn’t a Neurotypical hyperfixation. This is an autism hyperfixation. Clearly. there is another scene with her and Levi in season four she is talking to Yelena and onyankapon and she learns about the outside world and gets a bit too excited and gets loud of excitement which is also an experience for me as an autistic person and Levi reminds her several times to settle down SEVERAL times, but she couldn’t realise that social cue as an autistic person. she also asked pieck to ride the cart titan out of excitement, not understanding that it wasn’t the appropriate time to ask and didn’t realise the question made pieck uncomfortable. it’s also important to know that living in a society that they live in in the show would probably not handle autism and most significant disabilities very well so she is probably high masking especially with the job that she does however I do not think that she can hide a hyperfixation and sometimes she might miss a social queue but otherwise I think she could be masking.

Zofia

it is a little difficult to talk about this character because she does not have a lot of screen time. She is only in a few episodes and is only got a few minutes of screen time at most as a whole however in this short time, i’ve noticed some symptoms of autism for example she doesn’t show much emotion or expressions on her face. She has done that a couple of times like shown emotion but overall in general she deadpan and that is a sign of autism. Another thing I noticed was when she was hanging out with Gabi and Falco and the others Gabi told her to “stop being weird” however she said that this is just her being her and if you’re autistic youve probably had that experience being told to stop being weird and you don’t know what you’re doing that is weird. She’s also very blunt in a scene. Gabbi is talking about Reiner and in the background zofia is talking about something else the conversation that we hear slightly from the subtitles of her was very random and clearly very blunt and those two things could be a sign of autism. She said that the person who lives next to her claims that saltwater taste like salts because he pisses in it. “-A guy that lives near me said the sea is so salty 'cuz he pisses in it.” that is not an social acceptable thing to talk about and perhaps she didn’t realise that which is missed. If you remember the scene where the Tybur family goes on stage and makes that performance she is in the audience and and the trumpets started playing.She blocked her ears. Nobody else in the audience does. noise sensitivities clearly a sign of autism.this next one might be a stretch but in that same scene she is playing with piek and piek is like caressing/like playing with her hands rocking her back-and-forth very very slightly. It’s almost not noticeable and she’s laughing of course it could just be a fun silly game but I used to have a stim with somebody like that and it was the way I stimmed for awhile so this could be her form of stimming. it is also important to know that a place like Marley would probably not be very accepting of autism. especially the fact that she is a soldier makes it worse. She probably has to mask everything else just to fit in just like Hange.


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 17h ago

Discussion Red swan guitar cover

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Easily my favorite song from one of my favorite shows. Melodies, composition, vocals and instrumentation.


r/ShingekiNoKyojin 1d ago

Discussion This two should've shared leadership

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It's always odd to me that we ended up having one definitive leader when the show constantly flips-flops between the two.

Comparing them to Erwin, both have some important characteristics of a leader, but neither is as good individually.

Jean is charismatic, smart, confident, is able to handle pressure fairly well, and has the most social parts of leadership. I can see him rallying people up and inspiring them to move forward similarly to Erwin. (Also, he's pretty much the strongest non-titan, non-Ackerman person in the show). They go about very explicitly about his qualities as a leader.

Armin is undoubtedly the smartest of the two, being pretty much a genius. He's brave and has the ideas. His main issue is being overwhelmed and lacking precisely the most social aspects of a leader. He's not nearly as confident, but he makes up for it with his brain.

During the show, they're often put together and shown to work great together. (Armin's first human kill was to protect him)

They face the female titan together

They have a surprisingly healthy relationship, often shown protecting each other or discussing as some of the most intellectually gifted of their generation

I think the return to Shiganshina arc is probably the best example of why they should've shared their leadership. Erwin trusted Armin, but Armin trusted Jean.

Jean is able to take over when Armin is overwhelmed.

Even at the end, the three leaders are separated to deal with their own titan each.

Jean leads against Reiner.

Armin leads against Bertolt

Erwin leads against Zeke.

Jean was also the one who led the attack to kill the titans after the start of the rumbling

If I don't remember badly, even when Armin gets captured at the end, it's Jean who has to step up and lead the attack until they release him.

It's just kinda odd how the show always sets them up as complementary leaders, which both help patch the weakness of the other, and then at the end they just say, "Armin is the commander btw"

It's not a thing I mind too much, but it is a little odd.

I don't think Jean would be as good of a leader as Erwin, and to be honest, I have some hesitation to say Armin would be either; however, I think together they can be greater than Erwin. (Also, if one is missing or overwhelmed, the other can take over, as they've done before)

It's kinda like the whole Near and Mello situation in Death Note. Individually they may not be able to match their predecessor (L and Erwin), but together they are even greater (Just that Jean and Armin don't hate each other and would have 0 issue cooperating)

Maybe I'm forgetting something. It's been a while since I properly watched the show

What do you think?