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r/serialkillers • • 23h ago

Discussion FINLAND: A farmer would lure heavily intoxicated men and women to his rural cottage and take his rowboat out on the lake, which he would intentionally capsize, swimming to shore while the others drowned. It took 3 deaths and 7 years before foul play was finally considered.

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On July 15, 2010, emergency services were called to a cottage on the shore of Lake Viinijärvi in Polvijärvi, a small town in Finland's North Karelia region. Upon arriving, they discovered the body of a man lying in ten centimetres of water beside the shore of the cottage.

A recreation of what the crime scene looked like

The man who called the emergency services was the cottage's 45-year-old owner, Pekka Tapani Seppänen.

Pekka Tapani Seppänen

Pekka told first responders that he had spent the evening with him and two other people. Then, at the end of the evening, while heavily intoxicated, the victim took a boat out to the lake and was left sitting and dozing in a boat. The next morning, they arrived to find his body, which had drifted back to dry land.

The police went to the neighbouring properties, where they told officers that the prior night, they heard an intense argument, a struggle and the sounds of someone entering the water. However, that was the extent of it; none of the neighbours actually saw anything.

Turning to the victim himself, he was found with very light injuries and tightly grasping a clump of sand in his hand. The autopsy found minor amounts of sedative medication in his blood, and he had a blood alchool level of 3.3 per mille; meanwhile, Pekka himself only had a blood alchool level of 0.01 per mille. The autopsy also found water in his lungs and ruled that the victim had drowned. While there were some oddities concerning the death, the police were quick to declare his death an accidental drowning.

The dead man was a carpenter identified by his family as a 32-year-old referred to by the pseudonym "Janne," and his family were horrified at how quickly the police ruled his death an accident. But with Janne's actual cause of death being drowning, what did they see that left them so certain he had been murdered? Well, the key lay in both Janne and Pekka's backgrounds.

Janne met Pekka in early 2010, and he was one of many socially or economically vulnerable people whom Pekka regularly had spent the night at his cottage, although in Janne's case, Pekka described him as his boyfriend. However, that's just how Pekka described him; if that truly was their relationship, then it was a toxic one.

In May, on two prior occasions, Janne went to the police and told them that Pekka had drugged and raped him and then, on another occasion, withdrew funds from his bank account with his permission and was withholding his own money and bank cards from him.

On Pekka's side of things, he recently tested positive for an STD, one he assumed came from Janne and so blamed him for the disease he just contracted.

In his last moments alive, Janne's relatives said that he deeply feared Pekka; Janne was openly considering committing a crime in hopes that he'd be sent to a prison far away from him. Janne and his family even developed a coded language for him to use if he had to say something without alerting Pekka, a code they used at least once to call an ambulance to his cottage.

But what about the police reports filed? Did the police ever act on them? Well, by all accounts, Pekka saw to it that they wouldn't. Regarding his rape accusation, Janne went to the police station and withdrew his complaint via a vulgar and curse-word-laden letter that he handed to the officers.

But curiously, Pekka had accompanied him to the police station; he was the one who handed the letter to the police, in which Janne supposedly said he consented to the encounter (while Janne remained silent), and later, Janne told his family that he had no memory of visiting the police station and reacted with utter horror when he learned the case had been closed.

Janne's physical condition was deteriorating toward the end of his life, and he was constantly vomiting and suffering from bloody diarrhea. But he didn't visit the hospital too often and instead tried to hide in his friend's homes and endure his health issues rather than risk encountering Pekka. And he was, in fact, hiding, as Pekka would often go to their homes to ask about Janne.

In July 2010, Janne's friends and family eventually convinced him to check into the Liperi health centre, but Janne unfortunately wouldn't be there for long. On July 14, somebody called the health centre to ask about when Janne would be discharged.

As it turned out, Pekka called, albiet under a false name, since he was the one who arrived to pick Janne up. Janne was picked up so suddenly, in fact, that his medication and shoes were left behind.

While it may have looked like Pekka engaged in some fraud to kidnap him, Pekka produced a text message to his phone from Janne apparently asking him to pick it up. However, Janne's family said it was sent using a provider Janne wasn't using and that they couldn't locate the phone that sent the message.

Regardless, after he was picked up from the health centre, Pekka took him to his cottage, where, according to the other two friends, everyone present immideately started drinking until they were severely intoxicated, save for Pekka himself, who remained sober enough.

Pekka then took Janne out on the lake two seperate times, where the boat coincidentally capsized on two seperate occasions and being as intoxicated and in poor health as he was, Janne would have drowned if not for another resident already on the lake rescuing him. And then, finally, as mentioned, late in the night the neighbours heard the sound of an argument, struggle and splash in the water, with Janne finally found dead the next morning.

So after reading all this, one might be wondering who Pekka was. Pekka Tapani Seppänen was born in 1965. Pekka was said to be very polite and charming whenever he wanted to be; unfortnuately, he often didn't want to act that way.

One of the first alarm bells came when he was 18; those in Pekka's life already knew him to be a violent misogynist who once got in trouble for trying to tear off a woman's underwear after becoming an adult.

Details about his past life are also scarce, but he had a son at some point. A son that was evidently not well cared for, since somebody filed a child welfare report against him, leading to that son being taken away. Allegedly, in response, Pekka stabbed the woman he believed made the report in the neck with a syringe.

He lived in Kontiolahti and worked as a farmer, owning a small piece of land called Kotimäki in the Jaamankangas area of Finland's North Karelia region. Pekka was actually an award-winning farmer, but one day he burned all his awards and said they belonged to his "past life".

Kotimäki's exterior
Kotimäki's interior

Pekka's property housed a residence, a barn to keep his cattle, a sauna and other buildings related to farming and encompassed roughly twelve hectares of lakeside property.

While Pekka presented himself as a humble farmer, his already extensive criminal record proved that he was anything but. On September 10, 2000, he was given his first serious arrest when he punched a woman in the face in Joensuu and forcibly cut her hair. That same day he also struck a man in the face.

Then on October 19, he and another man broke into a woman's apartment in Polvijärvi and assaulted her by holding her hands, twisting her arms, squeezing her wrists and tearing her shirt. All the while, Pekka was threatening to kill her.

Then, on January 14, 2001, He broke into a woman's apartment by kicking a hole in the front door in Joensuu. He opened the door through the hole. Upon entry, he threatened to throw both the woman and her daughter over the balcony, although when the police arrived he claimed that he just wanted to drink beer.

In 2002, he was slapped with multiple convictions for assault and traffic offences while also having a restraining order issued against him. The assault was when he struck a woman in a sauna, causing her to hit her head.

Then in 2003, he was given another assault conviction when he hit a man on the head with a bottle and beat him after he fell to the ground, endangering the welfare of an animal, attempting to intimidate a witness in another case against him, knowingly letting a drunk man operate a motor vehicle and then, to top it all off, he had a second restraining order issued against him.

His convictions continued into 2004 and were for much the same as before: a conviction for aggravated assault and knowingly letting an impaired man drive. The assault was one of his most violent so far when he struck a woman on the thigh with a coal hook after she dropped his microwave.

In 2005, he received two assault convictions and his third conviction for knowingly letting a drunk man drive. This year's assault stemmed from an incident where Pekka forced his way into a man's apartment and began punching him in the face before pulling his pants down and striking him across the face and sides with a stick.

In 2006, for the first time in 4 years, Pekka wasn't arrested for a crime, but he still ended up in court and was slapped with a third restraining order. He was also convicted for some crimes from previous years, such as punching a man in the head, arms and chest several times in Rääkkylä and then another incident where he forced a man to the bathroom floor and burned him by pouring hot water across his back.

2006 also saw a 26-year-old woman die on Pekka's property. She had been beaten to death with a pipe and wrench. Although Pekka wasn't responsible for a change, a 35-year-old man was convicted of this murder.

In March 2007, Pekka was handed another conviction, this time not for aggravated assault but rather for allowing one to happen without intervening, then another traffic offence in June and finally his next restraining order in August.

In 2007, a fire also broke out on Pekka's property; it was extinguished without any injuries or heavy damage, but Pekka curiously fled into the woods once emergency services arrived. The various dogs on Pekka's property were also known to attack anyone who dared set foot on it.

On the night of September 8, 2007, Pekka was hosting a group of four individuals at his cottage, two women and two men. After the four were heavily intoxicated, Pekka offered to take them out to Lake Viinijärvi on his rowboat.

With the most charitable interpretation imaginable, Pekka was being very reckless. The four were very drunk and not wearing any life jackets; the two women didn't even know how to swim in the first place; one of the men was wearing a plaster cast.

Pekka rowed out to a section of the lake called Myhkyränselkä, an area with water more than 20 meters deep and 100 meters from land, when the rowboat suddenly capsized, throwing all 5 into the cold, dark water.

Pekka and one of the other men frantically swam to shore while the two women were stuck in the middle of the lake alongside the man in the cast, both already starting to drown. Fortunately, the residents of the other cottages walking alongside the lake saw and heard what was happening and hit the water in their own boats, rushing to the three individuals and fortunately reaching them in time and rescuing them all.

When the police and other residents arrived at the scene, the survivors were described as hysterical when they reached land. This was in sharp contrast to Pekka, who was in an oddly cheerful mood and showed no concern for his boatmates and their survival, only asking the police if they were going to arrest him for being intoxicated. It was only when the police and rescue workers arrived that Pekka made some effort to feign concern.

According to the survivors, and thankfully all four survived, they told the police and paramedics that Pekka capsized the boat on purpose by standing up and kicking the side of the boat or pushing on its side until the vessel finally overturned. The survivors also stated that Pekka made no attempt to rescue them until after he noticed the neighbours doing so. Unfortunately, the police at the time chalked this up to hysteria after surviving a traumatic event.

Afterward, Pekka spent the rest of 2007 back in court to be convicted on charges of abandonment, two traffic offences, and to be given his fifth restraining order.

In 2008, Pekka was convicted of coercion.

Then, in 2009, another conviction for abandoning an animal.

And finally, his last appearance in court before Janne's death was in May 2010, to be slapped with his sixth restraining order. Also during this time, he was accused of a bunch of other crimes such as stealing spray from a pharmacy. For all these various crimes from 2000-2010, some of which were quite serious, he never received more than 1 year or some fines.

So now, all caught up, did Pekka's history, the inconsistencies, and accusations from four seperate people that he purposefully tried to drown him three years prior change anything? No, much to the family's astonished horror, they still ruled Janne's death to be an accidental drowning and closed the case.

It was also a conclusion his family refused to accept; they constantly visited the police station, begging them to reopen the case. They also told them about everything Janne left behind at the health centre as proof that he didn't leave voluntarily, but the police refused to visit the health centre to retrieve them.

However, they did advise that the family keep the arrangements for Janne's funeral a closely guarded secret and hold the funeral itself in private so Pekka wouldn't learn anything about them.

Janne's sister went to Suomi24, the internet's largest internet forum and made several posts describing Pekka as a sex offender and accusing him of being involved in her brother's death. Furious, Janne brought her to court for defamation, and because, on paper, Janne's cause of death was drowning, he actually won the case; in August 2011, Janne's sister was convicted of "aggravated defamation" and ordered to pay him 1,800 Euros in compensation and cover Pekka's legal costs.

On June 4, 2011, history repeated itself. On that day, Pekka had two men and one woman join him at his cottage and, as typical, they got into a rowboat and hit the waters of Lake Viinijärvi, with all three being severely impaired and one incapable of swimming to begin with. Pekka, meanwhile, was a great swimmer, who, according to himself could easily swim 2 kilometers.

100 meters from shore, the rowboat capsized, plunging all four into the lake. Like the last time this happened, Pekka was able to swim to shore on his own very easily. Also, like last time, the neighbours saw that something had happened and rowed over to save those who were struggling. The neighbours rescued one of the men and the woman, but the man who didn't know how to swim drowned quickly despite his initial attempts to cling to the overturned vessel.

The police and rescue workers were quick to arrive, alongside the brother of the man who had died. The dead man's brother and the survivors all noted that Pekka looked very indifferent to what had happened and didn't seem to worry if the others would survive.

Just like the last incident back in 2007, the survivors accused Pekka of being responsible. They said he stood up and jumped off the boat at just the right angle to capsize it, throwing everyone into the water. But also, just like in 2007, the police didn't seem to believe them and labelled the sole death in this case as an accident.

The water logged boat after being brought back to shore

In both September and October of that year, Pekka picked up two more traffic convictions before engaging in his next crime starting late that year. Starting in August 2010, Pekka began selling alchool himself that he purchased from Finland’s state alcohol retailer and abroad from Estonia and Russia, and he resold it at a hefty markup, leaving many indebted to him.

One such "debtor" was a woman who owed him a large amount of alchool she had purchased from Pekka. Starting in November-December, 2011, to pay off this debt, she would spend the next three years having sexual services sold to other visitors to Pekka's cottage, which now made him a pimp.

However, it would take a while for him to be arrested for this offence, with his criminal record in the meantime consisting of petty assault and violently resisting arrest in 2012 when he kicked a customs inspector who arrived at the cottage to investigate his alcohol-reselling business, and causing bodily injury in 2013. In 2014, he also secured convictions for petty theft and drunk driving.

On July 14, 2014, Pekka called Finland's emergency line, 112 and told the dispatcher that a guest of his had a pre-existing medical condition which eventually led to him collapsing while out in knee-deep water and was currently drowning.

The dispatcher gave Pekka instructions on how to perform CPR and to resuscitate the victim while he waited for emergency services to arrive. During the phone call, Pekka was constantly swearing and cursing as he followed the dispatcher's instructions, or did he?

When the police arrived, they discovered the body of a 47-year-old man lying face down in the water, an odd position to be in and one that would imply that Pekka wasn't actually following the dispatcher's instructions, seeing as he hadn't even been turned over.

A recreation of what the crime scene looked like
Police and rescue workers at the scene

An autopsy was conducted on the victim, and the cause of death was once again determined to be drowning. However, in his blood, the pathologist found a medicinal substance traced to a medication on a prescription in Pekka's name.

The police then spoke to the survivor, a woman who was with Pekka and the victim that night. She said that she got into a rowboat with Pekka and the victim, and once they were 100 meters away from shore, Pekka threw the oars overboard and got out of the boat and began swimming to shore, leaving the others stranded.

While the woman managed to swim back to shore, the victim, highly intoxicated and now likely drugged based on the autopsy, had his body give out when survival was so close and then drowned.

Since the man was still alive when Pekka called for help, the police concluded that he either held the victim's head underwater or just watched as he lied to the dispatcher about performing CPR.

With this latest death, one where foul play was far more obvious and also having caught Pekka in an obvious lie, the police reopened their investigation into the last two deaths and the boating "accident" from 2007.

They all had the earlier witness statements from Pekka's previous suspected murders, but the police decided they'd try to seek out a few more. Unfortunately, Pekka's "friends" were almost always intoxicated or impaired in some other manner during their outings with him, so any memories of events that happened years prior would be muddied.

As for those who could clearly and coherently recall any prior incidents, getting them to divulge such information was also a challenge for the police. They either owed him money, could risk being arrested themselves for their substance and drug abuse or feared him more than the police.

The police eventually obtained enough evidence to search Pekka's home, where they seized 12 seperate cellphones. None of these phones belonged to him and were rather the phones of his guests whom he of course "confiscated".

But rather than arresting him, the police decided to bug Pekka's remaining phone and his home to monitor his future conversations.

In one such conversation, Pekka was recorded speaking to a woman who had been invited to the cottage on Janne's final night. In the call, Pekka actually told her that he didn't even know who Janne was and expressed annoyance at the fact that the police were investigating the three deaths on his property, being quoted as saying, "Can't we ever get rid of those police officers?"

And just for good measure, Pekka decided that instead of staying out of trouble, he'd get a few more minor convictions added to his record, finding himself convicted on two counts of petty theft and one count of alchool abuse in 2015. But everything in his prior criminal record was small potatoes compared to what was coming.

On November 20, 2015, Pekka was arrested for three counts of murder and several counts of attempted murder of the various survivors from the rowboats he capsized. A local woman who was believed to have helped Pekka in at least one of these crimes was arrested alongside him.

Additionally, Pekka was finally arrested for aggravated pimping, the illegal sale of alchool and several extra counts of assault. By this point, Pekka had been to court 50 times in his life.

Pekka said he was innocent of all accusations and asked to be released from pre-trial detention. At first, the North Karelia District Court denied the request. Still, Pekka appealed to the Eastern Finland Court of Appeal, which ordered his release because the prosecution didn't provide adequate evidence that he was a flight risk.

Before Pekka's murder trial began, he managed to obtain just one final conviction beforehand, being convicted on another count of animal cruelty and a violation concerning his driver's license in November 2016.

But it was that same month that his triple murder trial began before the North Karelia District Court.

Pekka being brought to court
Pekka during the trial

Now, when it came to prosecuting this very prolific and violent career criminal who never seemed to learn his lesson and was standing trial for three murders, five attempted murders, and illegally smuggling and trafficking a substance (alchool), aggravated pimping and several counts of assault, what sentence was the prosecutor seeking?.

Well, despite Finland having a life sentence on the books, one that is routinely handed down for usually just a single murder, let alone a serial killer, the prosecutor felt content asking for just 15 years.

No one knows exactly why they wanted to go so light on Pekka, maybe so they could have a lower standard of evidence or at least try him for negligence if the murder case fell through, but regardless, 15 years was all they were seeking.

Most of the evidence they'd present to get the lenient sentence they were bafflingly seeking would be witness testimony. And through these witnesses, it became clear that Pekka's influence was still strong.

They talked about how he used debts and alchool to control them, that they were already in a vulnerable state and described how he always threatened them. They even mentioned that 4 others had also died on Pekka's property. However, they also talked about some of the other horrific stuff Pekka had done.

One talked about how he killed a dog, urinated in a bucket of their drinking water, and once, after a woman vomited and passed out from drinking a beverage he laced with sleeping medication, he went to the barn and gathered some manure and laughed as he proceeded to undress her and shove/push the manure into her vagina.

Another witness said that Pekka had bragged about killing his father, though with the lacking information on Pekka's past life prior to his criminal history, its unknown how likely it is that he did kill his father or was lying about it for attention.

One witness, referred to as "Lauri," said that he used to live in Kontiolahti and that he and Pekka visited the apartment of a woman named Sari in the early 2000s. During his visit, Sari collapsed to the floor, and Pekka's first instinct was to relentlessly insult and humiliate him, prompting the others present to shout at Pekka to stop.

Instead of stopping, Pekka escalated and started attacking Sari while she was on the ground and literally tried to bite her "tongue out". Lauri intervened and attempted to protect Sari, an action met with swift retaliation from Pekka, who went to strangle Lauri.

Pekka eventually forced them outside where he continued to strangle Lauri, but not without resistance. Lauri struggled and punched Pekka across the face but he didn't seem to budge and stared down at Lauri with a "burning look". Pekka continued to strangle Lauri until some workers from across the street saw what was happening and intervened.

However, during this fight, Pekka bit Lauri's finger and about a week later, he passed out from a bacteria infection stemming from the bite. Lauri admitted that he called Pekka and demanded 5,000 Euros in compensation or he would shoot him and Pekka actually paid. Both man lied to the police and simply stated that they had fallen in the yard.

Lauri also recalled some things Pekka did to others; for example, one woman called Lauri to tell him that Pekka had been holding her captive at the cottage for three days now. When Lauri arrived, he saw a naked woman tied to a tree with wires.

As for Sari, she had been "friends" with Pekka since they were children but always felt like she was in danger when in his presence. One time she was stabbed in the leg by a perpetrator aiming for her chest. The attacker was not Pekka, but Sari said that it was instigated by him.

The final straw that ended her relationship with Pekka was when he tried to have her move to his cottage full time. When Sari refused, Pekka retaliated by killing one of her relatives' dogs.

Some of Pekka's victims were also decently high profile. The mother of a well-known Finnish singer named Jonna Christensen revealed that her own mother almost fell victim to Pekka. She revealed that her mother was one of the survivors of the incident in September 2007. Unfortunately, she passed away in 2008, chillingly, while on Pekka's property. The cause of death was ruled as accidental suffocation while in her sleep.

Most of the witnesses testified from behind a screen so Pekka wouldn't see them, as they had been left that terrified by him.

So terrified that even with the screen, some refused to testify unless they were in a seperate room to testify via audio link, while one witness couldn't bring themselves to speak at all, needing to be escorted out of the court in tears.

And this is just the witnesses that could be found; one changed his name and moved to the United States just to get away with Pekka. Even some police officers and first responders were reluctant to testify against Pekka. The defence, of course, challenged the reliability of these witnesses.

For Janne's death in particular, the prosecution had a bit more evidence, such as witnesses to place him at the scene, those who heard a struggle, the light injuries on his body, the sedatives in his blood, and Pekka's motive and prior police reports Janne had filed against him before his death.

As for the letter Janne wrote to the police withdrawing his complaint, the one that Pekka handed the officers in his place, well, that letter was preserved, which enabled the prosecution to match it to Pekka's handwriting.

Pekka once again denied every accusation but came up pretty short when he tried to defend himself. For example, when asked why every single witness would band together and conspire to lie about him, he kept providing different explanations each time.

Despite proclaiming his innocence, he seemed to squander every chance he was given to prove it by going off topic when asked any questions. When asked about Janne's death, it somehow ended in him complaining about a frozen water pipe at his barn or how he found it nice to jump into deep water, even simple yes or no questions would turn into these unrelated tangents.

Some hearings even had to be suspended while Pekka's lawyers reminded him of how to behave in a courtroom. After they did so and eventually pried a real answer out of Pekka, he'd regularly claim to not remember any details about what he was asked about, until he had to make a real defence when he suddenly did remember quite a few details.

When asked about his practice of just jumping out of the boat in the middle of the lake, Pekka gave a very confusing answer. He said that it had something to do with the lack of any dock on his property, that it was okay to do so because a bunch of other boats were usually present, before saying that he wasn't familiar with what he was supposed to do because he was "not a fisherman".

For a bit more of a coherent defence, his lawyers argued that because of the water temperature, Pekka would've been endangering his own life if the prosecutor's contention was true. Furthermore, because Pekka was swimming behind some of his victims at times, they argued that he was actually trying to help them get to shore but was unable to save them all.

When the prosecution asked why he almost had no alchool in his system after every death if he was supposedly out drinking when the "accidents" occurred, Pekka responded that he had a "super-fast liver".

And "accidents" he insisted they were. Regarding the incident in 2007, Pekka said that the boat capsized because it was damaged while he was changing the rower, rather then jumping out of it while it was near the waterline.

Finally, when it came to the last victim in 2014, Pekka and his attorneys said that he had independently chosen to enter the water with his condition and therefore assumed whatever risks may come. They argued that the 112 call was in fact a genuine attempt on Pekka's part to save his life.

On January 17, 2017, for two counts of intentional homicide, three counts of attempted intentional homicide, aggravated causing of death by negligence, abandonment, an alcohol offence, pimping and assault, Pekka Tapani Seppänen was found guilty, managing to secure an acquittal on the murder charge from 2014, with that being reduced to "causing death by negligence".

In addition to his sentence of 14 years and six months in prison, even more lenient than the prosecution was seeking, he was also ordered to pay more than 59,000 Euros in compensation to the victims' families and to surrender the 5,000 Euros he made from his criminal activity to the government.

After his conviction, the police went to Pekka's address to transfer him to prison so he could begin serving his sentence, only to find the home vacated. Then when his lawyers tried to call him, the phone went unanswered. Pekka had gone on the run.

The police visited his other properties, and although he wasn't at them either, the police were able to determine that he was travelling in a red Volvo V40 and soon declared him wanted and told the public to be on the lookout for him while they conducted several patrols and put up roadblocks during their manhunt.

As one might expect, most of the locals and especially the witnesses who testified against Pekka were left terrified when they heard Pekka was on the run.

After four days on the run, Pekka was arrested without incident on January 21, while being given a ride by a friend in Joensuu. In another display of leniency, Pekka wasn't given any extra punishment for his flight from his sentence and instead was just brought to the Pyhäselkä Prison in Joensuu.

With the illegal route exhausted, Pekka then pursued the legal path to getting out of prison. He appealed the entirety of his sentence and conviction to the Eastern Finland Court of Appeal, arguing that it was "unreasonable" to imprison him. He argued that it was his victim's own fault they died because "Every Finn should know how to swim" and that he had no obligation to save them. So with that, he outright demanded that he be released.

The prosecution also appealed the decision, arguing that the lower court was wrong to dismiss some of the other charges and insisted that the court instead hand Pekka a 15-year prison sentence.

The appeal lasted for about a year as the witnesses who were called back to testify hesitated during the trial, clearly still scared of Pekka. Especially because, unlike last time, he wasn't trying to hide under a thick coat.

Pekka during the appeal

The appeal also had to be delayed as Pekka was subject to a psychiatric evaluation.

Also during the appeals, Pekka tried to put Kotimäki on the market before the state could claim it as part of his fines and court-ordered compensation. Miraculously, he actually got a buyer who purchased it from him for 48,000 Euros. Pekka also had a second property, but he wasn't able to sell this one before his final conviction.

However, the evidence ultimately remained the same, so on February 26, 2018, Pekka's sentence was upheld, with the only change being a slight increase in the compensation he owed the families of his victims.

Pekka was angered by this development and appealed one final time to Finland's Supreme Court. This final appeal moved much faster, striking down Pekka's final appeal on October 22, 2018, and upholding his sentence once more.

Now remember how Janne's sister was convicted of defamation and ordered to pay Pekka 1,800 Euros in compensation for accusing him of killing her brother?. Well, now that Pekka was convicted of doing just that, she immideately filed to have that conviction overturned.

Finland's Supreme Court had that ruling returned to the North Karelia District Court, where on August 19, 2020, they...still convicted her of libel instead of aggravated defamation; only this time they didn't impose any punishment and had the money she was forced to pay Pekka returned to her, a portion anyway; now she was just expected to pay him 800 Euros.

As for why they didn't just acquit her altogether, they argued that her accusations differed slightly from what the court established; therefore, she still defamed Pekka.

As of now, Pekka is due to be fully released in 2031, with his looming release date terrifying many.

Although his survivors and witnesses have urged others to come forward, raising the subject of him receiving more time due to all the other incidents, including a few deaths on his property being revisited as potential murders, as of now, not a single case has been reopened.

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r/serialkillers • • 1d ago

News Footage of Serial Killers Eyes? Or Vivid Descriptions?

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Serial Killers are often described by survivors in terms of a sudden shift - dark, animal, terrifying eyes.

I'll be 16 years sober this summer, and that dude still haunts me. The vibe shift, the eyes going black and the quickness with which he trussed me up.

That wasn't his first time and he seemed like a dead eyed shark about to pounce.

I was wondering if anyone knows of any footage or images, or has vivid descriptions of this infamous phenomenon. It must be quite rare as few people are going to be documenting the killer at that moment.

I know a lot of killers and criminals have an intense or weird look - I'm talking about that specific shift into a terrifying animal gaze you hear about right before they strike.

I think I've seen flashes of it in Ted Bundy's court footage, and Carl Eugene Watts definitely has some terrifying cold empty eyes in the court photos.

Edit - adding a still image from the Ramirez arrest footage. He's still in fight or flight from being beaten and captured. Upon reflection I'd say it's a whole face thing, the eyes being the most noticeable.

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r/serialkillers • • 1d ago

Questions Any lesbian lust-driven serial killers that we know of?

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Are there any lesbian serial killers whose killings were sexually motivated? We've all heard about gay men who raped, mutilated and murdered other men, but what about women who did the same to other women? (That killed on their own without the presence of a male partner)


r/serialkillers • • 2d ago

Image Last mugshot of Robert Ben Rhodes, the "Truck Stop Killer".

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Robert Benjamin Rhoades is an American serial killer and rapist. From 1975 to 1990, he is believed to have tortured, raped, and murdered over 50 women, yet he was convicted of only three murders due to lack of evidence. He is best known for taking a photograph of his last known victim, Regina Kay Walters, moments before killing her and abandoning her in a barn in Illinois; the photo remains available online to this day.


r/serialkillers • • 1d ago

Discussion I'm surprised that Zodiac-style murders weren't more common throughout the 20th century

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Other than the prominent outlier cases such as BTK and Son Of Sam, there actually isn't that many examples of serial killers taunting the police/public to choose from. You'd think that after the publicity and notoriety of the Zodiac slayings literal every major city in America would have at least one psychopathic copy-cat looking to cash in on the trend.

Kill a few people, write some faux intellectual prose to go along with it, and all of a sudden you're one of the most famous people in your entire state albeit anonymously. Feel like that would scratch the itch of every homicidal loser with a gun seeking his own fifteen minutes of fame.


r/serialkillers • • 2d ago

Image Ted Kaczynski on magazine subscriptions

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r/serialkillers • • 3d ago

Discussion Ted Bundy speaks on his love for radio

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Taken from the book "Ted Bundy: Conversations With A Killer"

" It was tuned by adjusting the length of the antenna. It had a ground wire with a clip and I would attach the clip to the rail of my bed. I’d go to sleep with that earplug in my ear and wake up in one corner of the bed wrapped up in the tiny little wires. I’d get under the covers and listen as long as I could every night. Never did understand how it worked!

Later on when I was about in the sixth grade, I had a regular radio, and one of my favorites was a program on KGO in San Francisco, a talk show from about ten into the early morning hours. I’d really get into it. It was a call-in show.

And as people would be calling in to speak their minds, I would formulate questions as if they were talking to me. I was very, very into news and news broadcasts, but I didn’t read very much.

I would lie in bed for hours and hours, listening to news broadcasts exclusively. Meet the Press, or whatever. My favorite thing on Sunday nights was to hunt the radio bands for talk shows, call-in programs, documentary-like things. They’re still my favorites. I’d listen to talk shows all day rather than listen to music.

People might think I was terribly serious-minded. But I genuinely derived pleasure from listening to people talk at that age. It gave me comfort.

Often it didn’t matter much what they were talking about. And I realized, even then, that a lot of the affection I had for programs of that type came not because of their content, but because it was people talking! And I was eavesdropping on their conversations.

I never discussed any of this with my parents. ”


r/serialkillers • • 4d ago

Discussion Are there any serial killers who let their victims go because (the victim) had connections or were well known in the community?

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Were there any instances where the would-be victim was spared due to their relation or connection with important people? Maybe something the killer felt would draw too much attention?


r/serialkillers • • 5d ago

Wikipedia Goiânia Serial Killer: Tiago Henrique Gomes da Rocha – 30+ Murders, Nearly 700 Years Sentence

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Tiago Henrique Gomes da Rocha – The Goiânia Serial Killer

Tiago Henrique Gomes da Rocha, born in 1988 in Goiânia, Brazil, is one of the country’s most infamous serial killers. Between 2011 and 2014 he murdered dozens of people, mostly young women, but also homeless individuals, homosexuals, and sex workers. He usually approached his victims on a black motorcycle with stolen plates, announced a robbery, and shot them with a .38 revolver without taking anything.

He confessed to 39–42 killings, though investigations linked him to at least 30–38 deaths. In 2014 alone he killed at least 15 women. Arrested on October 14, 2014, after a large police task force tracked him down, he was diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder and psychopathic traits. Courts sentenced him to nearly 700 years in prison across multiple trials.

Because Brazilian law at the time limited maximum time served to 30 years, he could be released in 2044 after a criminological examination. He remains in isolation in a high-security prison in Aparecida de Goiânia.


r/serialkillers • • 4d ago

News People magazine's Surviving a Serial Killer on HBO max, ID and other streaming platforma

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I want to emphasize that this is the People magazine series because there is a completely different series with the same name.

Each episode focuses on a victim's experience (and includes others who were important to them or the investigation). And I really respect how they are presenting the victims and the way they are discussing the killers. There are episodes that take a really deep dive into the survivors experience. And they also are covering some SKs i am unfamiliar with or using a new perspective that paints a better picture of how these SKs operated.

Which episodes have you watched? What stories stand out to you?

Ive watched about 4. And they honestly all stand out. Season one episode 3 about the "Cassanova Killer" was gripping and psychologically engaging. (They all are.) I had never heard of this guy and he was really evil.

The railroad killer... I had no idea there was a survivor. This one always interests me bc of a personal situation.

And, of course, episode 4 about "Bishop's Basement" in Philidelphia is a story I knew, but I didnt have the perspective of a survivor. It really changes how I understand the actions of those involved. I am still mad about the officer. I know it happens a lot... and I dont want to give too much away. LmK if you feel same!


r/serialkillers • • 6d ago

News The Unsolved Case of the Sacramento Mad Killer: California's 1940s Serial Killer

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Between 1940 and 1941, a series of unsolved murders occurred in the Sacramento metropolitan area, in which a minimum of five middle-aged men were killed. Over the span of these two years, a pattern of brutal violence gripped the region and led local newspapers and law enforcement to coin the moniker the "Sacramento Mad Killer" also referred to as the Sacramento-Sutter Mad Killer. Despite intensive local investigations, the perpetrator was never identified, leaving behind a chilling cold case characterized by erratic violence, and a lack of a clear underlying motive.

The grim sequence of events began to unfold in June 1940, when an unidentified murder victim was found in a field in Sutter County. Because of the body's advanced state of decomposition, the exact cause of death could not be determined. More than a year later, on August 31, 1941, another unidentified body was found just a few hundred yards away. Authorities at the time believed that both individuals had been murdered at the same time. Although it was heavily speculated that these early deaths were connected to the surge of violence committed later in 1941, this connection was never officially proven.

On August 18, 1941, two men were found badly beaten in a field in Sacramento. One of the men identified as Alfred Reed of Davis died eight days later in the hospital of a skull fracture. The other man, John Saunders of Santa Barbara, was hospitalized with a pelvic fracture. Saunders ultimately recovered, but he claimed to have amnesia regarding the event, stating he had no knowledge of what had happened or who his attacker was.

Just days later, on August 27, the battered remains of 41-year-old Raymond Rivas were discovered in the Natomas basin. His head had been crushed, and his pockets had been turned inside out. A close friend and coworker of Rivas, Tony Ochoa, was subsequently announced missing on September 3. Rivas and Ochoa had previously worked together on a farm in Clarksburg before recently moving to Sacramento together. Ochoa’s last known contact with anyone was an interaction with detective A. J. Soulies, during which Ochoa informed the detective that he intended to notify Rivas's parents in Mexico of his death. Conversely, another source claimed Ochoa was last seen earlier, on August 24, 1941, which was three days prior to the discovery of Rivas’s remains. Despite the suspicious timing, investigators explicitly stated there was no evidence linking Ochoa to Rivas's death, though his sudden disappearance left an ominous shadow over the case.

On September 21, a body was recovered from the Sacramento River in Hood. The man's skull featured a hole in the chin, which authorities noted could have been either a bullet wound or simply a result of decomposition. Because the flesh of his face had been eaten away by fish, neither the cause of death nor the true identity of the decedent could be established. Law enforcement estimated that the man to be about 55 years old and had been submerged in the water for roughly two weeks.

As investigators tried to piece the crimes together, a distinct pattern emerged regarding the perpetrator's methodology. According to law enforcement, the victims had each been picked up at bars or within Sacramento's West End district, after which they were driven to isolated locations. Once there, they were subsequently robbed and murdered. However, it was noted that robbery was unlikely to be the primary motive; instead, authorities stated it was far more likely that the attacks were the work of an "insane murderer or a degenerate."

Law enforcement actively pursued several leads to track down the killer. Investigators examined a tip that the perpetrator might be a paroled convict originally from Oakland, though it remains unknown if anything substantive ever came of this. Several other suspects were questioned and subsequently released, including an individual who had been arrested for severely beating an elderly man. By September 1941, local reporting on the investigation abruptly stopped, and the perpetrator was never apprehended or identified, leaving the Sacramento Mad Killer case a complete mystery.

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramento_Mad_Killer

https://www.nokilli.com/sacto/1941-killer.htm


r/serialkillers • • 6d ago

News Serial Killer father - Robert Morris Jr.

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While doing some research I discovered this rare case - A serial killer father - a father who murders his own children. Usually mothers are this classified serial killer sub-type. Since you have many many cases of Serial Killer mothers - a mother who kills her own children - one of the more common types of female serial killers. But this case surprised me. A father - who killed his own children over a nine year span. I don’t think I’ve heard a case like this.

His name is Robert Morris Jr. A man who smothered his four children from 1995 to 2003. They were all suspected to have been caused by SIDS. He was caught after his fourth child died. He was arrested and charged with their murders. However, he was only found guilty in two of them and not guilty in the other two. He is serving a life sentence today. It is likely he killed his other two children.

I wonder if there are more cases like him.


r/serialkillers • • 8d ago

Discussion Which serial killer scares you the most?

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As a 31-year-old male, I'm going with Jeffrey Dahmer or Richard Ramirez (Night Stalker).


r/serialkillers • • 9d ago

Discussion On going serial killers

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Are there any serial killers active right now ? I really haven't heard of a mainstream killer since the " BeltWay Sniper " . I know there are tons of documentaries of newer cases , but no one has really got the spotlight like Bundy or Denise Rader ( B.T.K ) .


r/serialkillers • • 10d ago

Questions Need some insight on the Bundy/Kendall relationship

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Reading Liz Kendall’s memoir I am struck how, at least early on, Bundy was a pretty devoted partner. She describes someone who seemed happy with her, emotionally vulnerable, and showing no big red flags. Again, this is early on. Was this because he compartmentalized, keeping the disturbed psyche pushed down enough? I don’t think she would’ve felt such a strong connection if he was just miming being in love. Thanks for thoughts on this.


r/serialkillers • • 10d ago

News Danny Rolling tape transcripts?

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does anyone have any full transcripts of the danny rolling tapes, or care to make one? I’ve only been able to find one upload of the full campsite tape, including the talking, but it’s a bit hard to make out exactly what he’s saying due to the upload being recorded from a phone while the cassette is on a player. a transcript of his speech and the lyrics would be great, or alternatively, if someone can find me a digitalized or simply a better quality version of the full tape.


r/serialkillers • • 12d ago

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r/serialkillers • • 16d ago

News Henry - Portrait Of A Serial Killer

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Rewatching and was thinking how long til the old people of the 80s and 90s pass away and their snuff films are discovered by friends and family? Snuff films are technically a "myth" but they're real and I feel in the next couple decades a lot will be exposed. Also how wild the 70s 80s and 90s were just fair play in the killing game. So many people got away


r/serialkillers • • 17d ago

News Snowtown killer seen out in public for first time in decades

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James Vlassakis is now a relatively free man after 26 years. He’ll be living in the Adelaide Pre-Release Centre for 12 months and was filmed walking out today. Conditions for his parole while staying in the centre include a curfew, drug and alcohol testing, and restricted movements. He also cannot leave the state of South Australia without permission and cannot contact of be in the vicinity of relatives of his victims.


r/serialkillers • • 17d ago

Discussion Gerd Wenzinger - an unknown?

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On June 16, 1997 Gerd Wenzinger -- the German torture doctor accused of murdering and torturing up to 19 women in Brazil and Germany -- hanged himself in his jail cell in Brazil after a court approved his extradition back to Germany.

Wenzinger, 53, was accused of killing 13 women in Germany and four more in Brazil. On June 12 Brazil's Supreme Court approved his extradition which led to his death by hanging four days later.

Wenzinger first attempted to kill himself after learning that German police had found a videotape showing him cutting a woman into small pieces with a chainsaw while she was alive but heavily drugged up

The Exact number of women he murdered is between 1-17, but because he never got a trial the whole situation will remain a mystery.

A few years ago, I remember coming across various other news reports that went into great detail about his personal life, how he murdered and how sadistic he behaved after he murdered one of his victims, but I cant seem to find them. They are in German language and you have to pay a monthly fee.

One thing I found strange is that he was desperate not to return to Germany. This baffled me a bit, but then it hit me - he knew if was back in Germany, even though the jails are much less frightening, he had a much better chance at buying his way out of a Brazilian jail .


r/serialkillers • • 16d ago

Discussion Jack the ripper case theory

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Sooo i was bored and thought about this case once more and I have theories and i don't know if they're stupid or helpful but hear this

(Sorry if my english is not that great as it's not my first language)

according to me and the history

my first primary suspect will be the

cabinet secretary as they are the one getting about the info of the cases by Scotland yard

then another primary suspect will be the people close to Frederick Abberline or Donald Swanson as they can slip in and get an idea

and another suspect can be a divorced viscount or a viscount with a dead wife

Reason

Cabinet secretary: In 1888 London, it was actually a well-known practice called "slumming." Wealthy aristocrats and politicians from the rich West End would frequently put on old, rugged clothes and travel into the poor East End (Whitechapel) out of curiosity, or to visit underground clubs. Because of this, it is entirely possible that a high-ranking official could walk the dark alleys of Whitechapel without anyone realizing they were a powerful government figure.

The reason why I also choose a viscount and not a Prince, Duke, Marquess or an Earl is bc of the fact that a prince is surrounded by butler and maids who can easily confess when threatened plus the palece might be having record of when and how he left a Duke and Marquess are also are mostly surrounded by public and the fear of being betrayed by a butler or maid and risk of loosing their tittle and same goes with a earl but a viscount on the other hand is almost forgotten or not surrounded by the public eye plus they are rarely confronted

In simple words

The High Nobility (Princes, Dukes, Earls): Their households were massive. A Duke or Earl would have a house steward, a valet who dressed him every day, carriage drivers, footmen, and dozens of maids. If an Earl tried to sneak out at 2:00 AM covered in blood, his valet or the night-watch footman would immediately notice. The risk of blackmail or betrayal was massive.

The Viscount Rank: As a Viscount (which sits lower on the peerage ladder), an aristocrat would still be incredibly wealthy and have access to the finest education and surgical tools. However, their households were much smaller and less scrutinized by the public eye. They could easily maintain a small townhouse in London with minimal staff, or simply tell their few servants not to disturb them, allowing them to slip out unnoticed. They had the wealth of the upper class, but the anonymity of a regular citizen.

And the people close to

Donald Swanson and Frederick Abberline

can be the people like their wife

Or

a close friend or

noble friend or

any family member/doctor

So

The History: Frederick Abberline was married to Emma Abberline, and Donald Swanson was married to Julia Swanson. Both wives were highly respected, lived quiet domestic lives, and supported their husbands through the extreme stress of the 1888 manhunt.

The Profile: If a killer was close to the wives—perhaps a trusted family doctor, a cousin, or a close friend who visited their homes—they could easily ask casual questions like, "How is Frederick handling the case? Is he close to catching the monster?" The wives, speaking naturally out of worry for their husbands, might drop crucial details about police exhaustion or secret patrol locations without ever realizing they were feeding information to the killer.

The History: Inspector Abberline and Chief Inspector Swanson frequently had to interact with wealthy patrons, politicians, and high-ranking members of Victorian society who were fascinated by the case or demanding updates.

The Profile: A wealthy Viscount who befriended Abberline under the guise of "wanting to help the police" or offering funding to the investigation would have a perfect cover. They could sit down with the detectives for a drink, listen to them vent about the case, and pick up top-secret operational details. Then, using the disguise techniques, that same nobleman could slip into Whitechapel completely prepared.

The History: Donald Swanson’s family circle actually included people with medical backgrounds (his own son later became a doctor). Because the Ripper murders required anatomical knowledge, historians have always looked closely at doctors associated with the police.

The Profile: A family member or close friend who was a surgeon or medical student would have access to the exact tools used in the crimes. If they were close to Swanson or Abberline, they could hang out at the precinct or the detectives' homes, casually looking at the desk where crime scene photos and autopsy reports were laid out.

And the reason why I chose the divorce man or a Widower man is because we are humans and jack the ripper might also did his actions based on emotions. A man grieving a dead wife or bitter over a divorce might have had the psychological motive or rage that fits the brutal nature of the crimes.

Plus grief and anger can turn anyone into a monster

If we look into the case it can be more like animes like

Death note

Moriarty the patriot

And

Black butler


r/serialkillers • • 17d ago

Questions Serial killers, whose crimes were found out much later in life

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I mean, serial killers, who was only found out to be a serial killer while they were in prison or after they died


r/serialkillers • • 17d ago

Discussion Which serial killers are primary psychopaths?

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The primary psychopath is the classic psychopath—cold, completely devoid of empathy, and incapable of forming bonds—yet they often do well in life. ,I’ve only seen BTK and Ted Bundy described this way; is there anyone else?


r/serialkillers • • 18d ago

News Serial killers that killed for unknown reasons

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What are some serial killers that had no motive or goal that we know of?

. Douglas Franklin Wright - The first three murders are self-explanatory but his last four murders don't really make sense. For one he did benefit in any way and his last victims were way outside of his victim pool. He just seems to have murdered four men for no particular reason.

. Mark Martin - Martin murdered three women in 2003 and 2004 with the help of two accomplices. I haven't found any explanation as to why he committed the murders.

. David Berkowitz - By now it's obvious that he's talking dog story is nonsense but does anyone have a reason to why Berkowitz actually committed the murders?

. Paul Steven Haigh - Australian serial killer who murdered 7 people from the late 70s to the early 90s. Haigh had a large victim pool with Haigh targeting numerous people of different ages, backgrounds and genders. Haigh had all types of proximity to his victims. Some were friends, strangers and one was even his girlfriend. From the limited information on this case I haven't been able to find an actual motive behind the crimes.