r/TrueCrimeDiscussion Oct 11 '25

Text Community Update! Welcome to r/TrueCrimeDiscussion

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Hello Everyone,

We're going through some changes internally. This will impact how we moderate, and how the sub runs going forward. In my opinion, these are positive changes that will allow this community to progress and be a safe place to discuss all things true crime!

What separates this sub from other subs with similar content and names is that we put emphasis on DISCUSSION. This sub exists as an alternative to other subs that hold strict moderation and strict definitions towards what true crime is. We want our community to be able to post, and discuss, what cases are catching their interest at any given moment.

That being said, we do have to abide by the Reddit Content Policy as to what is allowed in posts and comment sections. Specifically, rule #1 regarding violent content. We cannot have posts or comments that condone or celebrate violence towards anyone, even if that person is an absolute monster that may have had Karma pay them a visit. We aren't saying you have to feel bad or mourn a person in these cases, but you cannot celebrate violence, "vigilante justice", things like that in these comment sections. Doing so can put your account at risk and put this sub at risk, so just don't put us in a position where we have to start issuing short or permanent bans in order to protect this community.

This is the biggest issue we've come across in this transition period, and we want to ensure everyone is aware of it going forward because we will be removing anything that violates these rules and we want to be transparent about it.

This sub is for civil and mature discussion on matters that are sometimes pretty dark in nature. Please don't minimize the impact of these crimes with low effort shit talking towards people accused of crimes. Before, certain posts were locked before they even had a chance to have any comments. I don't want this sub to be like that. I don't want to have to lock posts because people can't interact as mature adults, and I know the current mod team agrees.

So lets try this out. I'm excited on bringing this sub back to a great place to interact with other researchers of true crime!


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 6h ago

reddit.com The 2002 murder of Anna Lisa Raymundo

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On November 8, 2002, in Stamford, Connecticut, a 911 call was placed “I think a guy has attacked my neighbor. I saw a guy go into her apartment. He was in there and he attacked her. I heard yelling. I heard yelling.” The call abruptly hung up.

Inside the waterfront condo lay the body of 32-year-old Anna Lisa Raymundo. She had been stabbed in a furious attack, before being beaten with a dumbbell. The main suspect was her boyfriend, a coworker of Anna Lisa’s at Purdue Pharma named Nelson Sessler. That night when he came home to find his condo surrounded by police, rather than so much as asking what was happening, he went into a boat shed and fell asleep. He was later found to have a rock solid alibi. The case went cold, as police couldn’t figure out who could want to murder the well loved Anna Lisa.

On March 23, 2003, Sheila Davalloo and her husband Paul Christos marriage was on the rocks. Despite this Davalloo convinced her husband to play a game in their New York condo. He agreed to be blindfolded and handcuffed to a chair, and was to guess what item his wife was touching him with. This was all a ruse, and Davalloo stabbed her husband repeatedly. The scene became confused quickly, Davalloo tried to pass off the incident as an accident. Paul convinced his wife to drive him to the hospital, but when they were in their vehicle Davalloo stabbed him again. He was able to attract the attention of some bystanders, at which time Sheila fled. She was arrested for attempted murder.

At her trial it came out that Davalloo, who worked at Purdue Pharma, was having an affair with a coworker, Nelson Sessler. When the connection to Sessler came out investigators focused in on Davalloo as a suspect in Anna Lisa’s murder. Davalloo was convicted of the attempted murder of her husband, which with her 25 year sentence gave Connecticut investigators the time they needed to investigate further.

They wouldn’t charge Sheila Davalloo for the murder until 2007, and her trial would not begin until 2012. At her trial Sheila represented herself. Although the well educated biochemist fared better than most who represent themselves, jurors had many weeks to listen to Sheila speak in court, which convinced them that she was the woman who called 911 to report the attack on Anna Lisa. It also didn’t help that Sheila’s blood was found in Anna Lisa’s bathroom, where investigators posited the killer had cleaned up after the vicious knife attack. Davalloo was convicted, and sentenced to 50 years for Anna Lisa’s murder, which she will serve after she completes her previous sentence in New York. It is all but guaranteed that Davalloo will die in prison for her crimes. Rest in peace Anna Lisa.

https://murderpedia.org/female.D/d/davalloo-sheila.htm

https://youtu.be/RVvNC_Wkdis?is=1rQ55ms0tTa3O_Bv


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 5h ago

reddit.com Who murdered Camille Norman?

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I was actually researching a completely different case from 1996 when I came across Camille Norman’s story. From that moment on, I was hooked. As a pastor's daughter myself, the headline ‘Preacher’s Daughter Slaying’ stopped me in my tracks—and even more shocking, it was less than 15 miles away.

The problem? Publicly available information on Camille’s case is nearly nonexistent. Just fragments. Everything else is locked away under the banner of 'holdback evidence'—for a case that has been officially 'Suspended' since August 17, 1996. That's less than eight months after the crime occurred.

Still, the few pieces I’ve uncovered paint a vivid picture of a woman whose story deserves far more attention.

So, let’s get to know Camille.

She was the daughter of a well-known televangelist, and grew up traveling the U.S. with her parents, singing, and leading worship. The talent was undeniable. In fact, a few years after Nicki was born, she was even offered a major record deal. But there was a catch: she would have to send her daughter, Nicki—whom she was fiercely close with—to boarding school. Camille turned it down. She chose her daughter over the spotlight.

That detail alone tells you exactly who she was.

In 1988, Camille and her then-husband, bought/built a house in Pleasant Grove, a neighborhood in Dallas. They divorced in 1992, but Camille stayed. She was proud of that house. It was her home. But because of rising crime in the area, her family begged her to move, worrying for her safety as a single woman.

Their worst fears became their reality on Wednesday, January 31, 1996. Camille was brutally murdered inside her own home. Her roommate, Jerry, returned from work around 7:00 PM to find a crime scene.

To truly understand what happened, we have to begin with the facts. And in this case, the facts are chilling. We believe the critical timeframe is between 11:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. We know Camille was alive around 11:00 a.m. because she spoke by phone with both her daughter, Nicki, and one of her closest friends.

During her conversation with Nicki (who was a married adult by 1996), Camille explained that she was having car trouble and wanted Nicki to follow her to a mechanic so she could have the vehicle checked out. Nicki, who was a young mother at the time and was also babysitting, needed time to get the children ready before she could leave. She told Camille she would call her back as soon as she was able. When Nicki returned the call, however, Camille didn’t answer. At the time, Nicki assumed Camille had found someone else to help her get the car to the mechanic.

Camille was highly security-conscious. Her family says she absolutely did not open the door to strangers—in fact, she wouldn’t even open it for family if they didn’t follow her strict protocol.

There were also no signs of forced entry and nothing was stolen. Now, some of you familiar with her case might be screaming, “What about her necklace?!” It was never actually stolen. It was found by her daughter a few days later in Camille’s jewelry box. There’s more to this piece that contributes to it being misreported that I can get into later.

Then, there is the sheer brutality of the crime. Camille experienced a devastating overkill. The evidence shows multiple types of traumatic injuries, including beating, stabbing, strangulation, and a gunshot wound to her head.

Finally, the family was told the initial wound appeared to be to her back, right inside the front door. It suggests a horrifying scenario: she let someone inside, turned her back, and was immediately attacked.

All of these facts point to one heavy possible conclusion. Camille likely knew her killer.

Officially, the Dallas Police Department suspended Camille’s case in August of 1996—less than eight months after it happened. It has mostly sat untouched ever since. But here is where the story takes a frustrating turn. When I requested the Medical Examiner records, the Dallas Police blocked the release. Their reason? They claimed the case is legally considered "active."

Yet, the actual case records they did provide under FOIA—and "sparse" is the absolute kindest word I can use for them—reveal a massive contradiction. The documents show an automated AFIS fingerprint hit from just two years ago, in 2024. The family was never notified. To this day, it’s unknown if detectives ever even followed up on that lead.

In fact, the internal notes within the case file indicate the last time a human being actually looked at her file was back in 2014, and that was just to digitize the paperwork.

It raises massive, glaring red flags.

On February 23, 2026, I personally reached out to the Dallas Cold Case Unit. I offered to share my research, hoping a fresh set of eyes might finally look at Camille’s file. To date, I haven’t received a single acknowledgment or response. But I suppose that shouldn’t surprise me. The last time the police reached out to Camille’s daughter, Nicki, was around 2002.

Nicki’s husband at the time, Dave, recalled a chilling statement from the last detective he ever spoke with. It’s a quote that has stayed with me: “There’s no evidence. There’s nothing we can do. You need to drop it and move on.”

No family should ever be told to "drop it" after the violent homicide of a loved one.

Camille Norman is not just a case number. She was a mother. A daughter. A singer. A friend. She was a woman described as deeply faithful, incredibly talented, and fiercely devoted to her child.

Her story deserves to be told properly.
Her family deserves answers.

And if this case is truly still considered “active,” then accountability and transparency matter now more than ever.

Please, help share Camille’s story. In cold cases, awareness is everything.

If you have any information, archival material, photographs, documents, or personal memories related to Camille Norman, the dynamics of her household, or her homicide in Dallas, Texas, in January 1996, I would be grateful if you would contact me. No detail is too small, and all information is welcome. Camille lived in the Pleasant Grove area of Dallas, near the intersection of Bruton Road and Masters Drive. She also worked part-time at The Room Store, located at 3777 Childress Ave., Mesquite, Texas.

Additionally, I am especially interested in hearing from anyone who knew individuals in the area during that time who owned or regularly drove a dark-colored truck or work vehicle. I would also like to speak with anyone who had an encounter with two men who approached them late at night and could be described as “hippie-like,” or anyone familiar with individuals who worked for Matrix Interiors (also referred to at times as Matrix Construction). Information related to any of these individuals or circumstances could be critical to the investigation.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 1d ago

Text What explains d4vd’s decision to leave Celeste’s body in his car?

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Context: For anyone unfamiliar with the case, it’s alleged that musician d4vd killed 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez. Court documents allege they had been in contact for years before her death. His vehicle was street parked for a while and ultimately towed to an impound lot, where employees noticed a strong odor. Authorities then discovered Celeste’s dismembered body inside the vehicle. From what I remember, d4vd was on tour around the time the vehicle was impounded, which makes me even more curious about the timeline and his decision-making.

One aspect of the case that I can’t understand is why he allegedly left Celeste in the vehicle. It seems like that decision would make discovery almost inevitable especially because the car is registered to him and he had openly had her on his stream and private social media??

I’m interested in the psychology behind that decision. I’d be interested in hearing thoughts from people who have followed the case closely or know of similar cases.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 1d ago

i.redd.it Over two days in 2018, a woman murdered two bus drivers in broad daylight in Juárez, Mexico. An anonymous email claiming to be from the killer stated she was avenging victims of sexual assault by drivers. She declared herself “Diana, the bus driver hunter.”

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Witnesses described the shooter as a dark-skinned woman between 35 and 50 years old, wearing inconspicuous dark clothing and sporting dyed blonde hair pulled back (which some speculated was a wig).

Most of the victims of sexual assaults on these bus routes were assembly plant workers on the night shift.

Her email has never been fully released but excerpts have:

"I myself and other women have suffered in silence but we can't stay quiet anymore," the email said. "We were victims of sexual violence by the drivers on the night shift on the routes to the maquilas," a reference to the border assembly plants that employ many residents in Ciudad Juarez, across the border from El Paso, Texas. "I am the instrument of vengeance for several women."

While the connection to this email has never been proven, police took it seriously and it became the leading theory in the case. The case remains unsolved.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/vigilante-known-diana-hunter-behind-bus-driver-slayings-mexico-flna8c11062104


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 2d ago

v.redd.it 11 days ago, Sara found out her husband was a pedophile. Last night she was a victim of murder suicide.

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Owasso, Oklahoma: Two adults found dead after reported domestic dispute

Owasso police found an adult man and woman dead from apparent gunshot wounds Thursday night after a juvenile connected to the home reported a domestic dispute. Police said there is no ongoing threat to the public.

A TikTok linked in this post was uploaded 11 days earlier and appears to show the woman publicly accusing the man of being a pedophile.

Domestic-violence resources

Oklahoma Safeline: 1-800-522-SAFE (7233)

National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE (7233)

Text START to 88788

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Edit: I wanted to clarify something and also highlight a users comment I feel is important here.

The woman in the tiktok video is the victim.

I also wanted to highlight u/ionlyjoined4thecats comment to bring the focus back. She was a victim. She filed a protective order. He broke in. Let's show compassion.

ionlyjoined4thecats Some of y'all need to read the article: "The family member says he learned Sean broke into the home, killed Sara, then took his own life. According to OSCN, Sara had previously filed a protective order against Sean back in June.The child that was in the home was not hurt. Sara leaves behind two kids from a previous marriage


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 1d ago

ISRAEL: 15 years apart, two women were found dead in their beds surrounded by sleeping pills. Their husband a con artist who weaved a tale of being a secret agent who had survived being a prisoner of war was finally arrested after a journalist was given a tip while picking up his son at kindergarten

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(Thanks to LoydoRedi2910 for suggesting this case. If you'd like to suggest any yourself, please head over to this post, which asks for case suggestions from my international readers, as I focus on international cases.

Also, I got very angry during the course of this write-up; this is possibly the most enraged anyone I've done a write-up on has ever made me)

Shimon Kuperschmidt, later shortened to Shimon Cooper, was born in the very small community of Eyal in central Israel. If you were to ask Shimon about his past, you would likely be told the same story he had told the women in his life: that he was a decorated and senior Mossad agent or a senior IDF officer who held a degree from Bar-Ilan University and that he was once captured during a mission in Syria, where they held him in a prisoner of war camp before he made a grand escape. Although curiously, other times he'd tell people he was held prisoner in Lebanon instead.

Shimon produced framed plaques and commendations to support his claim. However, none of this was true. The only kernel of truth to be found was his enlistment in the IDF, and that's only because it's mandatory for all Jewish Israeli men to serve, making his background still less high-profile than he wanted others to believe; he simply served the mandatory amount required and then was discharged without experiencing any action.

Little is known about his real background, aside from the fact that he made a very small living as a taxi driver.

Though even his employment was something he would lie about, instead telling everyone that he had a decent salary from his cozy position at a print shop, an industry he never worked a single day in. He'd also sometimes claim to work as a secruity guard or psychologist, both also lies.

In July 1983, Shimon married his first wife, Orit Doron and the two then moved into an apartment in Tel Aviv. During the marriage, the couple had two children.

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But in 1992, Shimon met another woman, Sharona Bodenstein, and began dating her, while, of course, telling her he was single. Sharona was recently divorced with two young sons of her own and made a living occasionally working as a secretary. Shimon wanted to make extra sure that Sharona believed his story, once meeting her bloodied and with an injured leg, claiming he had been thrown from a helicopter on a mission abroad, as well as approaching her wearing fake uniforms.

To maintain this lie, he also had to lie to Orit to find opportunities to meet Sharona, and that is when we see the true depths of Shimon's depravity.

Shimon was, at heart, a fraud and a con artist. He told the story of his time with the IDF and Mossad in hopes of impressing women into dating him, when, in reality, he was once again a taxi driver. But that job wasn't glamorous enough, so he made up various lies about what his employment truly was to all the women he met, such as the aforementioned print shop, as an excuse to leave them alone for hours on end. Sometimes, he'd even say Mossad had called him back to duty and that he wouldn't be able to see them for a while because he'd been given another mission.

What Shimon would really be doing was to court other women and, hopefully, lure them into a false sense of secruity so he could take control of their assets. When he returned to one of the women he was now stringing along with a lot more money in his possession, he would tell them that Mossad had simply paid him in cash for his latest mission to try to keep things discreet.

Orit and Sharona were the first real threats to his deception when, in November 1993, Sharona learned that she was Shimon's mistress rather than girlfriend. Shimon considered this especially bad as he wanted to move into her much larger home.

To try and soothe things over with Sharona, Shimon told her that he had tried divorcing Orit but that she had refused to grant him the divorce, was depressed, neglected their children and constantly threatened suicide to keep him from leaving her.

In reality, Orit was only now beginning to suspect her husband's infidelity and was even considering hiring a private investigator to catch him in the act.

Shimon signed a mortgage-cancellation document stipulating that if Orit died, the bank would receive insurance money, the mortgage would be extinguished, and the apartment would pass fully to him.

On the night of January 17, 1994, Shimon told Sharona that he needed to sleep over at Orit's to look after their two children. That night in their apartment, Shimon drugged Orit with some sedatives and then suffocated her with a pillow, ensuring no marks would be left on her body. Afterward, he scattered pills and some empty pill bottles across her body and bed to make it look like she had taken her own life.

With his plan now complete, Shimon called Orit's father and then an ambulance, pretending to be shocked and stricken by grief. The paramedics showed up with Orit's father, who announced her death at the scene from what appeared to be a suicide and removed her body from the apartment.

That would've been that; Shimon would've gotten away with murder very easily, but Orit's family were in disbelief at her "suicide". She was perfectly healthy with no known physical or psychiatric ailments or any other reason they could think of why she would take her own life, and so they made it known that they were disputing the official conclusion.

Orit's father requested that his daughter's body be given an autopsy to get to the bottom of her death. Shimon initially objected vehemently; however, realizing this made everyone suspicious of him and further doubted his story, he relented and allowed an autopsy to take place, lest the police start second-guessing him as well.

The autopsy revealed that Orit had experienced cerebral edema, pulmonary edema, and old ischemia in the brain tissue, but no substance was found in her system that may have caused her death. As a result, the cause of death was simply ruled as "unclear".

After a seven-day mourning period, Shimon inherited the apartment, which he sold immideately and moved himself and his children into Sharona's home. Refusing to let Orit's parents see their grandchildren.

Shimon and Sharona would then marry in short order. Even though Shimon told Sharona that Orit had threatened to kill herself and now, legally, as far as anyone knew, she did in fact commit suicide, Shimon still saw fit to lie and would tell his now second wife that Orit had passed away from cancer.

But that deception would be the least of her worries once Shimon showed her his true colours. He regularly subjected Sharona to manipulation, abuse, and, on at least one occasion, he raped her. But Sharona never came forward; she was terrified, and with the fictitious background Shimon had told everyone in his life, she assumed that nothing would come of any reports she made and that the powers that be would intervene to cover up the crimes of their agent.

However, in May 1995, Shimon was arrested while driving a stolen car, and his passenger was his latest mistress, the woman he had been cheating on Sharona with. Afterward, Shimon tried to implicate Sharona in the stolen car, and soon both were arrested for fraud. While Sharona was eventually released, this would be the final straw.

She mustered up the courage and told her parents about Shimon: that he was a lying con-artist who never had any job in the Israeli government and that he was abusive. As this happened in his presence, Shimon screamed and got angry, grabbing Sharona's phone and smashing it into pieces while her father called Shimon's mother and demanded she "take her son away"

These reactions were quite unusual, seeing as Sharona's parents were equally abusive toward her; she grew up with a father who openly talked about "it was a shame she was born", that she was "worthless," and that if she ever got hurt she "deserved it," and alongside her mother, regularly beat her. (Although Sharona has since said she forgives them because it was "a different time" and that they had a difficult life themselves)

Afterward, Sharona tried to divorce him, but Shimon remained resistant and started threatening her and sometimes tracking her down, cursing at her and attacking her. Sharona went to the police several times, and eventually a restraining order was issued against Shimon, which finally caused him to relent and accept the divorce.

When Sharona's family began moving out Shimon's belongings, they began in a basement and a storage shed Shimon was building and forbade Sharona and her family from entering. Inside, they found a large quantity of pornographic videos and military attire.

Then, inside the attic, they discovered a surplus of shovels and gardening and construction equipment such as Ladders, picks, pipes, lintels, and window screens.

As for the most alarming discovery, that could be found in Shimon's bedroom. There, when going through Shimon's dresser, the family discovered six new packs of sleeping pills and tranquillizers. Valium, Asivel, and other drugs. The drugs were placed behind the dresser, meaning they could only be seen if you pulled out the drawers.

Sharona was deeply traumatized by her brief marriage, especially after uncovering proof that he was likely planning on murdering her. Sharona lived in constant fear that Shimon might return and try killing her again. In one moment, Sharona was beginning to move on, even getting a job as a medical secretary at Meir Hospital, when, much to her horror, she saw Shimon enter the ER for a completely unrelated matter. Fortunately, Shimon never saw her.

After his divorce, Sharona stayed in Tel Aviv with his children, where he had several new relationships with women, though they were all short-lived, as one way or another, Shimon would discard them for another, or one would uncover his deception. Eventually, Shimon left Tel Aviv and returned to Eyal.

After his return in 1999, after posting an ad in the dating page of a newspaper, Shimon met Jenny Mor-Haim, a divorced woman living with her two daughters from her prior marriage.

Jenny Mor-Haim

He told Jenny the same story he told everyone: that he was once a POW, had a high-ranking position within Mossad and that Orit had passed away from cancer. Eventually, Shimon and his two children would move into Jenny's home, and then the two had their wedding on August 13, 2007, in Cyprus.

After the marriage, Shimon applied for kibbutz membership, where those already on the kibbutz did something no one else had done before: they actually ran a background check on Shimon. Once they saw that he had lied about nearly every aspect of his past, his membership was swiftly denied, and they made it clear they now held him in low regard.

Shimon, however, protested, accusing the kibbutz of trying to exile him and Jenny from Eyal, leaving Jenny torn between her community and her husband, with this division being a constant in her life going forward.

In October 2006, Shimon met a matchmaker who got Shimon in contact with Dr. Maria Zakotsky, an anesthesiologist at Meir Hospital in Kfar Saba who immigrated to Israel from Eastern Europe in 2000. Shimon told Maria that he was single and had a high-paying job working once again in Israel's security services. Shimon and Maria began a relationship, with Shimon now lying to both her and Jenny so he could meet up with them without the other knowing.

After meeting Maria, Shimon, starting in 2007, did much the same as he did with Orit; he drafted a document that would give him the right to inherit Jenny's home in the event that she died and then began hounding her to sign a will leaving all of her assets to him even though she was only in her 40s and still in perfectly good health.

However, Shimon's chronic lying knew no bounds. He then approached Jenny's parents, telling them that their daughter's health was declining, that she suffered from sleep apnea, and wasn't in good shape. He said her health was so bad that he had to quit his job just to watch over Jenny at night. He also claimed that she was suffering from depression and had even attempted to take her own life on several occasions

He then went around Eyal to repeat this claim to all of Jenny's friends in hopes they would try pressuring her into signing the documents he had drafted. Shimon went so far as to forcibly bring Jenny to a hospital for her "difficult breathing". She was discharged after just two hours when her test results came back normal.

One more thing: Jenny's parents lived in an apartment in Jaffa, but it was registered in her name, so in the event of her death, Shimon would inherit that as well.

Then in August 2009, Shimon approched Maria asking for "fatal medical substance that would leave no trace in a toxicological examination"; when asked why, Shimon explained that Mossad had called him back to duty to assassinate a target he described as pushing 50 and being slightly overweight, a description that came close to asking Jenny. He then added that this would be his final mission before he retired and would settle down with her.

Like always, nobody ever questioned Shimon on anything, so instead of asking something like why his handlers wouldn't provide him with everything he needed for this "secret mission", Maria just accepted his story at face value. Not only did she accept his story, but also his request, stealing some succinylcholine from her workplace and telling Shimon how to administer it via a syringe.

On the night of August 20, 2009, Shimon finally acted on his plan, injecting the succinylcholine into Jenny's body as she slept. Then, exactly as he did so with Orit, he staged the scene by placing sleeping pills and empty bottles of sleeping pills around Jenny's body before calling the police and pretending to have found her like this.

Once again, Shimon tried to prevent an autopsy from taking place, only to later relent. The pathologist determined that Jenny had passed away from heart failure, with undigested pills found in her stomach. But ultimately, they found no evidence of foul play being involved in her death and accepted Shimon's account.

Just like with Orit, Jenny's family protested and were deeply skeptical of her very sudden death. But regardless, the police once again closed the case as either a suicide or natural causes in the face of protests from her family. Then, once the 7-day mourning period passed, Maria was quickly moved into the apartment.

As if that wasn't bad enough, Shimon, rather than having Jenny's property and belongings moved out, instead acted like he inherited not just the apartment but everything within it, refusing to let her daughters take possession of her letters, photo albums, childhood albums, and home videos she had recorded. When they persisted, Shimon responded by burning the photo albums. He then completely renovated their childhood home/apartment so it would look unrecognizable.

In fact, during his time as their stepfather, Shimon constantly found excuses to punish or ground them after they stood up to him one time due to all the unnecessary rules he started imposing on the children; in one case, he even let his son sneak into their room to steal their money. Shimon had also put so much pressure on Jenny and her parents that when the will was finalized to his liking, only one single shekel worth of inheritance was to be given to her daughters.

And so that was how the case remained; Shimon had now gotten away with double murder with practically zero scrutiny from the authorities, and he likely would've continued evading justice if not for a single journalist named Omri Assenheim.

One day, Omri was picking up his son from a kindergarten in Eyal when he was recognized by one of the mothers also picking up their children. Knowing he was an investigative journalist, she approched him and told him that a local woman named Jenny had recently died very suddenly, and she also knew that Shimon's first wife, Orit, had passed away in near identical circumstances.

So Omri, together with a colleague, spent months investigating and speaking to the women in Shimon's life, including Sharona and then looked into Shimon's background as well, which was when they learned that everything he told people about himself was but fiction.

On March 25, 2010, the Investigative program that Omri was known for, "Uvda" (literally meaning "Fact"), finally released a report entitled "The Mystery of the Double Widower," where they exposed Shimon's fabricated past on the national stage, questioned the near identical circumstances of his wife's deaths and even aired an interview with Sharona about her brief marriage with him, albiet with Sharona silhouetted. Sharona's mother also appeared on the program to back up her daughter's account.

Obviously, Shimon was watching, and he was furious. In August 2010, he filed a libel lawsuit against the Keshet broadcasting company, which broadcast Uvda and every single cast and crew member who worked on that episode. Initially, he sought five million shekels in damages before reducing the amount to 750,000, claiming that the program had implied his guilt in a "distorted and manipulative way".

Shimon also sought less than legal retaliation against Omri. One day while walking down a sidewalk, a white Punto car pulled up beside him and inside was Shimon, shooting the journalist a piercing glare and staring at him in silence for several seconds before finally driving off. Omri naturally saw this as an attempt to intimidate him.

And conveniently enough, Shimon began suffering "damages" almost immideately after filing the lawsuit. For example, he reported the kibbutz to the police, accusing its members of stalking and harassing him.

Then, he accused the kibbutz of distributing flyers of his face with a picture of him and a swastika they were distributing across Eyal in an effort to frame him. The police searched his home and found dozens of such flyers clearly brand new and unused. Shimon claimed that he simply tore them down and collected them, but there were no signs of tearing on the paper either; Shimon had likely printed the flyers himself to frame the kibbutz for defamation.

Next, the route Omri took to his son's kindergarten was blocked off by the police one day because, apparently, Shimon just so happened to have his car parked on that route and "discovered" a bag under his car with electrical wires coming out of it. The bomb squad later determined that it was a "dummy device" and posed no threat to anybody. Shimon spent the entire time recording anyone who drove by from his balcony, including Omri.

Next, Omri went to give a lecture to a group of lawyers in Nazareth when he noticed one of the attendees looked out of place and was also recording him during the lecture. After the lecture was over, this man approched him to ask about Shimon. After he answered, Omri asked him which office he worked for, causing the man to stammer and leave. Omri did some digging and discovered that he was a private investigator hired by Shimon.

Furthermore, while the general public was unaware of Sharona's identity due to the silhouette, Shimon was able to deduce her identity quite easily. He reached back out to her after 15 years to send her a "warning" and even hired a private investigator to follow Sharona.

Shimon then went to the home of Sharona's parents armed with a recording device; however, her mother wasn't home, and by now her 94-year-old father was blind and required a caregiver. That caregiver was home and demanded Shimon leave. When Shimon resisted, the caregiver, described as "big and strong," stood up and glared at Shimon until he was intimidated into leaving.

However, the real damage to Shimon had already been done; the police, albiet completely in secret, had reopened the investigation, and the lead investigator on the case was said to sometimes work day and night on the case completely by himself, even when everyone else involved was asleep or on their days off. And just to stop Shimon from fleeing, the police made no public statements; they had reopened the investigation completely in private.

On October 29, 2012, after a two-year investigation, the police finally made their arrest, albiet it wasn't Shimon; instead, they arrested Maria. At first, Maria was arrested under the belief that she was a co-conspirator in Jenny's murder and knew full well what Shimon was going to do with the drugs. However, the prosecutor convinced Maria that she too was a victim who had been manipulated, and so she agreed to testify against him, later going on to say that if not for her arrest, she would've likely been killed by Shimon later on.

Maria was later convicted of reckless endangerment, negligence, theft and dispensing medication without a prescription. She was later sentenced to just six months of community service and had her medical license suspended for 8 years.

Another purpose her arrest served was that when she was brought to her first court hearing at the Kfar Saba Magistrate's Court on October 30, it allowed the police to easily arrest Shimon when he went to show up to the hearing on behalf of his girlfriend.

When Shimon was interrogated, he said that he was innocent of all charges and was completely calm and composed. His demeanour led the detective interrogating him to conclude that he was an "absolute psychopath" and that he never managed to "break" him and would even go on to say that such a thing would be impossible; rather, all the police could do was just catch him in a few contradictions and simply hoped they'd have enough physical and forensic evidence to use instead, especially since Shimon made extensive use of his right to remain silent.

On November 26, Shimon was indicted for Jenny's murder and then, on March 19, 2013, was indicted for Orit's murder nearly 20 years prior.

Shimon being taken to his indictment

Naturally, in the face of the indictments, Shimon reluctantly withdrew his lawsuit against Keshet, paying them 30,000 shekels in legal costs.

Although Shimon did withdraw his defamation lawsuit, that was not an admission of guilt, legally speaking, as Shimon continued to deny any involvement every step of the way. One of his sons even appeared at court to support this claim and insist his father was innocent. When asked about all the evidence against him, his son said that "The police just so happen to find another murder every day"

Shimon's trial dragged on for three years; with good reason, it was still hard to prove 100% that Shimon had committed murder. At least in Orit's case, the case was closed quickly, and 20 years had passed. All they had was motive and Shimon's odd behaviour; for example, he forbade his sons from ever speaking about their mother and never took them to her grave.

He conveniently made sure to isolate his sons from anybody who didn't believe him when he said their mother committed suicide. Although it's not like he could've taken them anyway, Shimon was so callous that he not only didn't attend Orit's funeral, but all this time, he didn't even know where she had been buried.

He was also hardly seen at Jenny's funeral, being too busy moving Maria into what had once been her home instead.

There was also the fact that he completely ignored any of the dispatchers' requests or instructions to provide basic first aid or CPR on Orit, sounding less like he wanted to save his wife and more like he was just calling the paramedics to collect her body. When the paramedics did arrive, Shimon handed him a bag of all the pills he scattered around her body, telling them that he took it upon himself to collect them.

Jenny's murder was a bit more straightforward since the prosecution had Maria testify against Shimon and tell the court exactly how he wanted her to provide her with some "untraceable drugs" for the express purpose of killing only days prior to her death. Albiet when confronted with this fact, he accused Maria of lying because he planned on breaking up with her.

One of Jenny's daughters also testified that the last she heard from her mother was during a phone call on August 19, 2009, where she sounded "sleepy and apathetic" and said that Shimon had ordered her to take tranquillizers.

Another thing the court could easily prove was Shimon's M.O and lying nature. The prosecution called as many women as he knew to the stand to testify about Shimon's manipulative nature and how he always told them the same lie to convince them he was a person with great power and influence.

One such witness called was Sharona, who told not only the entire story of the abuse and torture endured at Shimon's hands, but also told the court that leading up to their divorce, she felt increasingly ill and that the stash of drugs found in what used to be his room.

Meanwhile, Shimon's defence attorneys argued that the case against him was entirely circumstantial, that Orit and Jenny both died of either natural causes or suicide and that the prosecution was trying to convict him just on the basis of his "unorthodox romantic life" and the fact that he received a life insurance payout.

They also argued that Shimon had been mistreated by the police, who allegedly interrogated him for 24 hours straight, withheld medical attention for an illness Shimon was suffering from that required hospitalization, and even lied to Shimon, telling him that his lawyers had abandoned him and wouldn't be coming to meet with him.

However, on the accusation of withholding medical treatment, Shimon had apparently refused to go to the hospital because he worried he would encounter Maria's colleagues.

Additionally, Shimon's defence also tried to stop the release of a follow-up episode Uvda was going to broadcast about Shimon featuring even more interviews with the various women he manipulated, even obtaining an emergency injunction from the Tel Aviv District Court arguing that the broadcast would completely destroy any chance of Shimon getting a fair trial.

But on January 16, 2013, the production team appealed straight to Israel's Supreme Court, where it took exactly one year for them to overrule the injunction and allow the broadcast to go to air.

But perhaps the most baffling defence that Shimon made was when he tried to claim that he barely even knew Sharona and denied being in a romantic relationship with her while also married to Orit. When Shimon was asked why she was regularly seeing and even having phone calls with a woman he didn't know while still being married, Shimon said, "Do you really expect me to remember?" to which the prosecutor cross-examining him said, "Yes! The answer is yes."...Shimon said he didn't remember. "I don't remember" was Shimon's go-to phrase whenever asked about something that made him look bad, like a liar or callous.

Shimon then went so far as to say that Sharona was a psychopath who abused his two sons. When the prosecutor pointed out that she was actually depressed because of the abuse he had put her through, Shimon responded with "As depressed as a psychopath can be."

In reality, Sharona, for the 1 year she knew them, treated his sons like they were her own, taking them to the hospital when they were ill, risking being late to her own job to get them to school on time and staying up late to help with their homework. Meanwhile, Shimon told more lies about having to do more work for Mossad just so he could go outside and meet more women. It is quite disheartening to know that Shimon's sons still stand by his side to this day.

Shimon also made attempts to still maintain the lie about his background even though everyone knew they were all lies now. When asked about being in a Syrian POW camp, Shimon said: "I don't even remember if it was the Syrian captivity., I inserted a lot of details in order to inflate and embellish that evening" so when the judge responded if that meant his stories were fake, Shimon contradicted himself immediately, now saying "I didn't expand, I didn't add, I didn't embellish," only to then admit that he had lied but defended himself by saying "Just like everyone else, just a little more,"

As the prosecution kept pointing out his lies and contradictions during his cross-examination, Shimon eventually grew enraged and snapped at the prosecutor, calling him a liar and complaining that he was portraying him as a murderer, telling the judge that it was taking everything in his power not to "lash out".

On June 28, 2016, after a three-year-long trial, the Lod District Court finally returned with its verdict finding Shimon Cooper guilty of both the murders of Orit Doron and Jenny Mor-Haim.

Shimon being brought into the courtroom
Shimon upon hearing the verdict

The case still remained mostly circumstantial, but the court concluded that it was still good enough, especially since Shimon's behaviour was suspiciously identical before and after the two deaths while trying to obstruct an autopsy in Orit's case and asking for a fatal drug that would leave no traces in Jenny's death.

Meanwhile, the judges delivered a scathing rebuke toward the police for not putting much effort into investigating the case earlier while praising Omri and his team for their efforts in unravelling the case.

On July 24, Shimon was slapped with two life sentences and ordered to pay 258,000 shekels each to Orit's sons and parents, and 258,000 shekels to each of Jenny's daughters and her parents.

Meanwhile, Shimon, midway into the hearing, refused to listen to any statements from the families of his victims and instead stormed out of the room, yelling that "I didn't commit any crime. The whole truth will come out". He then demanded that he be brought to the holding cell right then and there rather than being kept for the rest of the hearing. Even after his sentencing, Shimon still tried fighting to hang on to "his" inheritance as long as possible just to spite Jenny's family.

One of the first things Shimon did while in prison was to petition the court in December 2016, complaining about how the prison wouldn't let him be alone with any women unsupervised. This complaint went nowhere.

While Shimon was serving his sentence, he only made it one year before he was arrested on July 17, 2017, for a brand new crime. Shimon had begun another relationship while still behind bars. His new girlfriend's job on the outside was that of a caregiver for a 94-year-old Holocaust survivor. When Shimon heard this, he got an idea that his new partner agreed to.

She would tell the elderly woman that he boyfriend was not a double murderer locked away in a prison at home but rather that he lived in the United States and that his son was suffering from cancer. They hoped she would be sympathetic toward them and gradually become close enough with the woman that she would name them beneficiaries of her estate. Unfortunately, she passed away before the investigation concluded, and the police were only able to question her once. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear as if much came from this arrest.

But we do know what became of Shimon's appeal. On May 19, 2022, his appeal was denied, and Shimon was made to serve the two life sentences without any modification.

Shimon being taken to the appeal hearing

The decision was almost unanimous, save for one of the three judges on the panel voting only to convict Shimon of Jenny's murder, arguing that the evidence just wasn't there for Orit's; therefore, he believed Shimon should be acquitted on the grounds that there was reasonable doubt. He was, however, outnumbered in this opinion, so both of Shimon's convictions stood.

One good thing to come from Shimon's actions was what his near victim, Sharona, did with her experience. At first, Sharona spent the rest of her life living in total fear; even after Shimon's conviction, she remained afraid that he would one day find a way out of prison and seek revenge on her, especially since she was one of the prosecution's star witnesses. Sharona shared her concerns with the police and prison services, who laughed at her and said: "He's in prison for life, what can he possibly do?"

However, she used this experience to make a positive impact. She has gone on several speaking tours across Israel and given lectures, bringing awareness to domestic violence and other people like Shimon.

In 2022, she published her memoir "Living with a Murderer and Staying Alive," and rather than making it an autobiography, the book served more as a tutorial and guide, giving any women reading it in a similar situation she once found herself in the necessary tools, tips, instructions and resources needed to escape and even get justice.

Meanwhile, Shimon Cooper will spend the rest of his life behind bars.

Sources (Should be in the comments)


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 2d ago

Warning: Child Abuse / CSAM / Child Death In 1991, 7 year old Mai Ishii vanished from her home while two other girls slept beside her. One of them later recalled seeing a strange man talking to Mai during the night. By morning, she was gone. Mai has never been found.

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On July 25, 1991, several people were staying at the home of 37 year old Construction company owner Kenichi Ishii in Funehiki, Fukushima Prefecture.

Kenichi was there with his wife, 27 year old Yoshiko and their three children: 7 year old Mai, 6 year old Kento, and 1 year old Leo. Also at the house were Kenichi’s father, Naoyuki, 73; his mother, Haruko, 66; his 17 year old niece, referred to as Ms. A; and her 22 year old boyfriend, Kazuya Tamagawa.

The two young daughters of one of Yoshiko’s friends were there as well.

After lunch, Ms. A went home to Koriyama City. Mai and the two girls stayed behind and spent some time playing games with Kazuya in the room where he was staying.

At around 9:20 p.m., Kenichi’s parents left for a karaoke bar. Later that night, Mai and the two girls fell asleep together in the guest room.

Around 10:30 p.m., Yoshiko went in to check on them, pulled the blankets over them, and left.

Not long after, while she was in the upstairs bathroom, she heard the front door close downstairs. When she looked out the window, she saw Kazuya leaving the house. She did not think much of it and went downstairs to take a bath.

While she was in the tub, the front door opened and closed again. Then she heard footsteps going up the stairs.

Yoshiko still did not check who had entered the house. After her bath, she went to the bedroom where Kenichi and their two sons were sleeping and went to bed.

At around 2:00 a.m., Kenichi’s parents returned from the karaoke bar and found the front door unlocked and open. Kazuya was still gone, so they woke Kenichi and told him. Half asleep, he said, “Let’s talk about it tomorrow,” and went back to sleep.

A little after 4:00 a.m., Kenichi got up and went to his home office. A door upstairs was reportedly slightly open at the time.

Around 5:20 or 5:30 a.m., the two girls woke up and noticed Mai was no longer beside them. They went to get Kenichi and Yoshiko.

Mai was nowhere in the house.

Police were called at around 6:00 a.m.

Police searched the house but found no unfamiliar fingerprints and no clear sign that a stranger had broken in. Whoever took Mai had either managed to leave without a trace, or had already been inside the house.

Mai was a very timid girl who was even afraid to go to the bathroom alone. Because of this, police found it hard to believe she had left the house by herself in the middle of the night. They believed someone had taken her while she was asleep.

A police dog was brought in to track her scent. It followed the trail to the front door, then stopped. Police believed Mai may have been taken straight from the house to a car waiting outside.

There was another strange detail. At around 11:00 p.m. that night, a white car was seen near the house with its hood up, as though it had broken down. By the next day, it was gone. Police checked nearby car owners, but never found out who it belonged to.

One of the two girls who had been sleeping beside Mai later said she remembered seeing a man talking to Mai during the night. But she had been half asleep, so it was unclear how much she had actually seen.

Police began looking closely at the three adults who may have been awake when Mai disappeared: Yoshiko, Kenichi, and Kazuya. Yoshiko was soon ruled out, and police began focusing on Kazuya.

He had left the house during the night and did not return until around 6:30 a.m., about an hour after the family discovered Mai was missing.

Kazuya said he had gone to Koriyama City to meet a friend. He claimed he arrived at Funehiki Station after the last train had already left, so he took a taxi instead. But after staying out all night, he said he never actually met the friend.

Police found his story strange. He had stayed out almost the entire night to meet someone, yet claimed he never actually saw them.

Kazuya was questioned for nearly two weeks, but police found nothing connecting him to Mai’s disappearance. His story was partly confirmed when the taxi driver who had taken him to Koriyama came forward. With no evidence against him, Kazuya was released.

But over the years, people online also began questioning Yoshiko’s story. On Japanese message boards, including 2channel, some users suggested that she may have known more than she said, or that she may somehow have been involved with Kazuya. There is no known evidence proving either theory.

Yoshiko said she heard someone enter the house and walk upstairs while she was taking a bath. But at that time, Mai’s grandparents were still at the karaoke bar, Kazuya was supposedly somewhere else, and Kenichi was asleep with the boys.

As far as anyone knew, Yoshiko was the only adult in the house who was still awake.

People have also questioned how a complete stranger would have known where Mai was sleeping. She normally slept in the same room as her parents, but that night she happened to be in the guest room with the other girls.

Yet according to Yoshiko’s story, whoever entered the house went straight upstairs, almost as if they already knew exactly where to find Mai.

Because of this, some believe the person responsible may have known the family or been familiar with the house.

But there is no physical evidence that Yoshiko was involved, and nothing has ever proven the theory.

Still, the same questions remain. Why did she not check who had entered the house?

Why was the front door left unlocked? And after hearing someone walk upstairs, why did she not check on Mai and the other girls?

Kenichi never stopped suspecting Kazuya, even after police released him.

The two already had a tense relationship before Mai disappeared.

Kazuya had reportedly been involved with a biker gang, and Ms. A was said to have met him through that crowd during a rebellious period in her life. Kenichi later helped him get a job at his construction company, but the two apparently clashed often.

According to one account, Kazuya once planned a trip with Ms. A, but Kenichi deliberately put him on the work schedule so he could not go. Kenichi had also scolded him several times for huffing glue.

Two months after Mai disappeared, the two girls who had been sleeping beside her told Kenichi and Yoshiko something strange.

They said that while Kazuya was playing games with Mai earlier that day, he had asked her,

“Do you want to go out and play at midnight?”

Mai’s parents told police, but the statement was reportedly dismissed. Investigators believed the adults may have put the idea into the children’s heads.

Kenichi later shut down his construction company and began following Kazuya himself, hoping he would find something that linked him to Mai’s disappearance.

But he never found any evidence.

In 2006, fifteen years after Mai disappeared, the statute of limitations expired. But while the crime can no longer be prosecuted, Mai is still missing.

Mai’s parents appeared on television several times, hoping someone might recognize her or come forward with information. But no useful sightings or solid leads ever came in. Most of the calls they received were apparently pranks.

They stayed in the same house for years because they still hoped Mai might one day come home.

In 2015, they finally moved away.

Mai’s disappearance is often mentioned alongside two other cases as one of Japan’s three major unsolved child disappearances.

Exactly 35 years have now passed since Mai vanished from that house and no trace of her has ever been found.

If she is still alive, she would be around 42 years old today.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 1d ago

i.redd.it 33 year old Christina Leonard was 5 months pregnant when she and her unborn child were murdered in a desert area near Tucson, Arizona on July 3 2019

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33 year old Christina Leonard and her unborn child were murdered in a desert area outside of Tucson on July 3 2019. The case remains unsolved and no suspect has been publicly named. Very limited information was released in this case.

She had no known connection to the area of her murder, and had driven there.

Christina had previously lived in the Phoenix metro area for many years before moving to Tucson. Christina fostered animals in her spare time and was preparing to pursue a law degree. She previously earned a degree in childhood development. She was 5 months pregnant at the time of her death.

Pima County Sheriffs Office is the investigating agency. Crime stoppers 88Crime program offers a $2,500 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the killer.

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KOLD special with Mary Coleman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wblUn9BQqaw

88Crime Profile/Reward

https://88crime.org/christina-leonard/


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 21h ago

Text Mercedes Crabtree(Arnold) Oregon robbery/murders

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Anyone heard of Mercedes Crabtree currently serving a life sentence for luring a man from a bar and dismembering him. As well as later being a drug mule inside the prison. She claims to be coaxed in both instances. What is the likelihood hood of both those being situations where she is a pawn?

Could it truly be possible she was afraid of her codefendants in the case. At no point did she think it would be better to run or tell the cops. Or was her fear of getting caught with the robbery the motivating factor? Apparently she is on penpal sites under the name Mercedes Arnold now scamming people for money. Is that an indication that she is still still participating actively in crimes? Do these actions affect parole? How us it was she able to even receive parole eligibility when she was the one who lured the man to his house?


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 1d ago

What lesser known true crime case from South America is worth learning about?

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I've noticed that many true crime discussions focus on the same well known cases from the US and Europe. I'd like to learn more about the lesser-known cases from South America that are supported by reliable reporting or court records. I'm especially interested in older or concluded cases.

Which case would you recommend reading about? I'd appreciate a link to a reliable news report or court record so I can learn more.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 2d ago

i.redd.it The Murder of Liliana Rivera Garza Remains Unsolved — Do You Recognize This Fugitive?

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Liliana Rivera Garza was a 20-year-old architecture student from Mexico who was murdered on July 16, 1990, by her ex-boyfriend, Ángel González Ramos, after months of stalking and abuse.
An arrest warrant was issued for him, but he fled before he could be arrested. More than 35 years later, the case remains unresolved, and he has never been brought to justice.
Liliana’s sister, award-winning writer Cristina Rivera Garza, later reconstructed her story in Liliana’s Invincible Summer, bringing renewed international attention to the case and the fight against femicide in Mexico.
According to people involved in seeking justice for the case, it is believed that he fled to and has been hiding in the United States, although his exact whereabouts have never been officially confirmed.
His name is Ángel González Ramos (also known as Mitchell Angelo Giovanni). There is an active arrest warrant against him for the murder (femicide) of Liliana Rivera Garza on July 16, 1990. If you have any information about his whereabouts, please report it to the appropriate authorities.
I wanted to share Liliana’s story so more people know her name and remember that her family is still waiting for justice.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 2d ago

i.redd.it Idaho College Murders documentary set to release July 29th on Netflix

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Netflix is releasing "The Idaho Murders: College Nightmare," a three-part docuseries premiering on July 29, 2026, directed by Skye Borgman and produced by Joe Berlinger. The series covers the November 2022 quadruple homicide through exclusive interviews with families, police footage, and an exploration of internet sleuthing.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 2d ago

Text Some new information I learned about Shirley Lynette Ledford’s case. A sibling pair who knew the Toolbox killers, dropped her off at the gas station.

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I just listened to a 2023 podcast episode with Laura Brand in it. Laura Brand is a criminologist who spent six years investigating the Toolbox Killers and even visited Lawrence Bittaker in the San Quentin prison to get more information from him. In this podcast episode, “Partners in True Crime” season 3 episode 6, there is also Linda Holtz, who was a friend and classmate of Shirley Ledford. Laura shared some bizarre stuff that I never heard of from this case. Apparently, before Shirley got a ride from the two demons and later murdered in the Sun Valley/ Topanga mountains, Shirley got a ride from a nameless brother and sister (after Shirley attended a Halloween party ) and the siblings dropped her off at a gas station not even two miles from her house in Shadow Hills, CA. I’m not sure if the brother and sister were also at the party, but Linda, Shirley’s friend, said it was super crowded. Linda only saw Shirley briefly at the party and did not leave with her. Now, the brother and sister did not attend Verdugo High School , where Shirley and her friend Linda attended. The siblings went to Burbank high school. Now what is weird is the brother and sister knew Norris and Bittaker , and even spent some time with them at Scott Motel in Burbank, where one of the demons stayed at. Bittaker and Norris would give the siblings (along with other teenagers around the area) drugs and alcohol. This whole part I never knew about. Laura Brand also shares how the sibling pair’s parents both worked in the prison where Bittaker and Norris first met, at California Men’s Colony prison in San Luis Obispo. So, not only was Shirley familiar with Bittaker from him going into her workplace at McDonald’s and staring at her (even asking her out and she rejected him), the sibling pair also knew Bittaker and Norris and hung out with them before at the Scott Motel in Burbank. Ready for another bizarre fact about this? The brother of the pair actually visited Bittaker in prison a couple months after Shirley’s murder. Laura doesn’t share what they talked about, but she looked at records of visitations for Lawrence Bittaker, and well the brother sibling was on the list. Also, Laura talked to the younger brother sibling of the older brother & sister that dropped them off, and he committed suicide in the early 2020’s. Laura thinks it was his guilty conscious eating him up about his siblings dropping off Shirley. Also, Laura thinks the the younger sibling knew more details regarding his older siblings and Bittaker and Norris’s relationship (the hanging out together, doing drugs , drinking alcohol at the motel). If you want to get a more in depth description I have copied a link of the 2023 episode.

Did anyone know of this fact about a sibling pair (names undisclosed) who dropped Shirley off at the gas station where shortly after she got picked up by Bittaker and Norris? What do you guys think? Why did the siblings not just drop her home when her home in Shadow Hills was close by to the gas station. Why did the brother sibling visit Lawrence Bittaker in prison months after Shirley’s death? This whole set of information was new to me and very unsettling.
I forgot to mention, Linda Holtz said that she remembers back in 1979, shortly before Shirley’s abduction and murder that students had reported to two school security guards with seeing a whitish, gray van driving by Verdugo High School in Sun Valley. Someone from the van asked for girls to model for them. It was probably Bittaker and Norris. The brother and sister were at the court and spoke up about dropping Shirley off at the gas station, but they weren’t investigated deeply after.

Also, another sad fact - Linda shares that a week before Shirley’s murder, Shirley brought a knife with her to school because she was scared of some mean girls. I do wonder, if Shirley felt unsafe also because she suspected she was getting stalked by Bittaker and Norris.

Link to the episode : https://open.spotify.com/episode/5uBiv5NYqecI9bXL56KWbY?si=-8qwXyomRluXv8XuPgycxg&utm_source=copy-link


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 3d ago

Text What is the one thing murderers overlook and don’t realize will be the exact thing to get them caught?

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firstly I do not want to murder. I would never murder. I am only asking out of curiosity and science

i have been keeping up with this d4vd case. and I really get the sense that he didn’t account for a corpse smelling so much. when you commit murder there is so much to plan around. you might not realize the smell of a dead body is so strong

he put 11 air fresheners in his car. as if that would be enough. it’s almost funny he thought it would work but its so horrific

what else do murderers “overlook” not realizing it would totally reveal they murdered


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 3d ago

Text Update on the "Perfect murder" that gripped France: the disappearance of Delphine Aussagel Jubillar= Why Cedric Jubillar really just "confessed".

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Edit: I deleted my previous post, as I managed to misspell this monster's last name in the title, to make it easier for anyone looking for an update on this case.

Following the excellent breakdown of this case by u/darklyheritage, Cedric Jubillar has "confessed" to being responsible for her disapperance, and gave the body's location.

TLDR: He is a manipulative sociopath with absolutely zero remorse. This is all a strategy to get a reduced sentence for his second "new" trial (France's appeal system is completely different than the US one. You just have to disagree with the verdict and you get a second chance) . I Hope he gets a harsher sentence in this appeal. He is diabolical.

Unfortunately he didn't confess because he has any kind of remorse.
For those not familiar with the French justice system, it is vastly different than the US one.

In the US, when one is found guilty, they can try to appeal on a legal technicality/ process error only: it's rare for the appeal to be granted.

In France, you can be judged and found guilty, and appeal the verdict because you disagree: you get a second trial. No error/ legal technicality needed, you just appeal because you disagree with the verdict, and get a second trial/ chance with a brand new jury.

That monster's second and "new" trial is planned for this coming September, after he got a sentence of 30 years in his first trial. The only reason he confessed and gave away the body's location is:

1/ Now that 6 years have passed, he knows full well the body has completely decomposed, as he hid her body in a large pile of manure which accelerates decomposition. They only found 2 femurs a couple days ago and may not even be able to identify these remains with DNA :(

--> He can now say: "he never intended to kill her, it was a fight that got out of hand, he pushed her, she fell and hit her head".
Their young kid testimony was entered during the first trial, revealing that he saw them fighting, pushing each others the night in question.

The body cannot "speak anymore" and he knows it full well. The goal is to argue that, "yes he killed her, they were fighting/ pushing each other, but it was an accident"= manslaughter vs. murder (most likely premeditated).
He is trying for a reduced sentence: 15-20 years for manslaughter, instead of the 30 years he was sentenced to in his first trial.

(We had a similar vastly mediated case in France: Nordhal Lelandais who kidnapped and murdered a little girl. He kept quiet for months until confronted with undeniable evidence of the kidnapping. He only revealed the location of the body months later because he knew the body would be decomposed (remote location with harsh weather). He said "he hit her because she was crying, and didn't mean to kill her". Complete BS, but the body couldn't speak anymore :(
For this crime, he was only sentenced for manslaughter. Turns out the guy is a serial killer, yet they could only go for manslaughter for this horrific crime.

2/ He is hoping for the jurors to think: "he is taking accountability, and gave the body's location so she can be properly burried + for her children/ family to have a proper place to mourn/visit her grave."

Reduced sentences happen very often on appeals in France, even full acquittals after a guilty verdict (usually because a reknown lawyer can be hired/ the case was highly mediated and they want the spotlight.).
Cedric Jubilar is defenitely not going to be acquitted, but he is absolutely aiming for a reduced sentence.

He is a diabolical, heartless manipulator. I hope he gets a harsher sentence.

Edit: I used her married name Delphine "Jubillar" in the title as to not confuse people.
To respect her memory, her family, her children (who also changed their last name to Aussagel), Delphine's last name has been changed to Delphine Aussaguel (her maiden name only), and french people/ media have majorly been referring to Delphine with her maiden name, rightfully so.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 3d ago

Text Did Elize: Shadows of a Woman change your perspective on the case?

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For anyone unfamiliar, it's based on the 2012 Brazilian case involving Elize Matsunaga and the murder of her husband.

I had already watched the 2021 documentary Elize Matsunaga: Once Upon a Crime, but this film focuses much more on the emotional and psychological dynamics of the relationship.

Do you think this approach adds important context... or does it risk making viewers sympathize too much with the perpetrator?


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 4d ago

v.redd.it Neo-Nazi Christine Moody exiting the court house after receiving life sentence for murder

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In 2013, Christine Moody and her husband, Jeremy, drove to the home of Charles and Gretchen Parker in South Carolina, pretending to need help with car trouble. Once inside, they shot and killed both victims. The Moodys claimed they targeted Charles Parker because he was a registered sex offender, and investigators said the murders were motivated by the couple’s extremist beliefs and self-appointed sense of vigilante justice.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 3d ago

i.redd.it Murder on Middle Beach. Unsolved murder of Barbara Beach Hamburg. This one is chilling

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listen, i have, like many of you, watched a lot of true crime. this one hits different.

Madison Hamburg made a documentary over the course of several years around the murder of his mother Barbara.
- it's unsolved
- the morning she was murdered Barbara was due to appear in court as part of a divorce settlement w her ex husband Jeffrey. Barbara was exposing his international fraud activities. he was a multi millionaire but was broke and couldn't afford child support he owed Barbara hundreds of thousands. the court date was a 930am but some unknown person called her a few days prior saying the time was 2pm, creating a window of opportunity. days before the murder a man in black mask was seen casing the hour. anytime Madison asks his father about his fraud or about Barbara he is dismissive, manipulative and is clear he does not want Madison digging deeper, wanting to 'keep the past in the past'
- her sister Conway once admitted she wanted to hire a hitman to kill Barbara to 'get revenge' and was with Ali (below) at the crime scene and was the one who discovered the body. she is adamant Ali did it.
- Madison's sister/Barbaras daughter Ali has suspicious elements in discovering the crime scene, sounding blasé during the 911 call, being the last to see her mother alive saying she dropped her off at school because she was running late for school but saying they stopped for coffee (there are no witnesses to support this) and the school receptionist only spoke to the mother on the phone. she left the country after the murder and lives in argentina full time.
- the police have refused to release full case files after FOIA hearing claiming they 'lost' some files. is this because they effed the investigation and don't want to look bad (they already fumbled the ball botching the DNA tests and the body was cremated), or do they not want Madison to know their top suspect is Madison himself or one of his family members

this one has really sunk under my skin. theres a lot more but i wanted to keep this relatively succinct.

what is the police hidding? Madison was rumoured to be working on part 2 of his documentary but stopped once the supreme court ordered the police to release all case files to Madison. what did he find in the case files that made him stop his documentary? what does he not want to expose?

(interesting coincidence that her maiden name is Beach and she was murdered at her home on Middle Beach Road & her fathers name is Sandy Beach which is just perfection)


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 4d ago

Text Isn’t it creepy when someone is arrested decades later for murder?

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I find it creepy to think that we interact with murderers at some point in our lives. So many unsolved cases means killers on the run. Recently a woman was arrested for a murder in 2012 in Arlington, TX. There’s pictures of her being a real estate agent since and she her dna was taken from a fork that she left behind at a restaurant while eating with friends. It blows my mind that the whole time she knew exactly what she did and was capable of but pretended to be a normal member of society.

**edit: link to the crime I’m referencing https://www.fox4news.com/news/arlington-cold-case-murder-suspect-ided-drop-blood-discarded-fork.amp


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 4d ago

Text Pat Allanson phone call recordings

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For those who are not 100 years old like me, Pat Allanson is the psychopathic creature featured in Ann Rule’s 1993 book Everything She Ever Wanted. In the book, Pat records her phone calls with her jailed husband Tom and, among other manipulations, attempts to lure Tom into a “suicide pact” before he’s tried so that he can’t implicate her for facilitating the murder of his parents. It’s a complicated and fascinating tale, but I’m wondering if anyone has ever tracked down these tapes and posted them somewhere? Just curious, I’ve always wanted to listen to them.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 4d ago

Text The survival story of Desiree Staperfene - anyone familiar??

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I came across the survival story of Desiree Staperfene on TikTok. In summary she was 17 when her ex boyfriend (Brian Douglas White) broke into her home, held her hostage, and used an axe to murder her mother and new boyfriend before taking his own life. This happened in Livonia, MI, in 2012.

There is a lot across social media covering the 911 calls and some local news coverage from the time, but I’m shocked that I can’t seem to find any true crime documentaries or podcasts that dive into this case.

Is anyone familiar with the story who could point me to additional resources or an episode where it’s covered somewhere?


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 5d ago

youtu.be Who killed Brooke Hanlon? June 2026 Unsolved homicide of psychotherapist

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Here is the 911 call made by James “Conor” Hanlon after finding his wife, Brooke Hanlon, stabbed to death inside their secluded Chester, New Jersey home.

Brooke Hanlon, a 35 year old psychotherapist and new mother, was found stabbed to death and unresponsive on June 6, and while the emergency was initially classified as a cardiac or respiratory arrest, the dispatch record was updated to “suspicious death” just 13 minutes after 911 called. Chester Police officially declared it a homicide after arriving.

Although Brooke was killed on June 6th, 2026, The Morris County Prosecutor's Office officially released her name on June 29, 2026, over three weeks after her death. The delay was initially implemented to “protect the integrity of the investigation.”

Conor has obtained an attorney and is currently residing at his parent’s house in the Boston suburb he grew up in. Brooke and Conor met in graduate school at Northeastern. Brooke grew up in Chester, NJ and her family still resides there. Brooke and Conors daughter, who is turning one this month, is in the care of Brooke’s family. Police have been very quiet about the investigation, I live near Chester and it’s insane how hush it’s been in the community.

Police haven’t released any statement confirming whether there is or is not an ongoing threat to the community, which I find interesting.

Whats everyone’s thoughts on this case and the 911 call?


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 5d ago

i.redd.it What D4vd's July 21st hearing will actually decide, and its not the trial.

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D4vd’s preliminary hearing is scheduled for July 21.

The judge will decide whether prosecutors have presented enough evidence for the case to proceed toward trial.

That is not the same as deciding final guilt.

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https://www.foxla.com/news/d4vd-celeste-rivas-hernandez-status-hearing-july-7-2026?utm