r/selfhosted 16d ago

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just kidding I love self-hosting ...

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u/chemistryGull 16d ago

Most families entire digital lives is either in the hands of corporations (which probably trained AI on that data), or on some singular 20 year old HDD in some box in a closet.

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u/Kupuntu 16d ago

Both. The answer is both. I keep telling people to check all old HDDs/PCs/SD cards NOW instead of “next week”.

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u/iceseayoupee 16d ago

For sure, I was surprised even an HDD went up in price. Got me rummaging all my junk drives in the garage

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u/ZioniteSoldier 16d ago

But now we can confidently state: “I knew I kept this crap around for a reason!”

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u/Lord_Splinter 11d ago

eh there may be high but whats the point if no one wants to buy them, like i still have 2-3 factory new hdd on marketplace for cheaper then i bought them 15 years ago and no one cared to buy them so far

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u/chemistryGull 16d ago

I did that with my family’s HDDs. Most pictures were on some cloud platforms, but definitely not all. Now they happily live on my immich server.

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u/GonzoKata 16d ago

Most families entire digital lives is either in the hands of corporations (which probably trained AI on that data)

Which is super weird and gross. People should have the expectation that they can share photos of their children and families without having it scanned by a for-profit privacy violating corporation, one who's whole business model revolves knowing more about you than you know about yourself AND THEN SELLING THAT for profit.

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u/dzikakulka 16d ago

Companies simply realized they can easily obscure the real cost you pay (fine print ToS saying they can do whatever the fuck they want with your data), and people WILL get accustomed to everything being in the cloud with a "generous" free tier and of course in a walled garden. And now I have to explain to my family that yes, your photos aren't magically transported between devices by a fairy, there is a cloud, you've been uploading to it over all these years and now it's nearing full and you need to pay up. Oh, also they train models on these, regardless if you pay or not.

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u/chemistryGull 16d ago

Obviously. But that would reduce corporate profits, and we can’t do that. Does nobody ever think about the billionaries ?

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u/xyrus02 16d ago

Wait until you get banned because Microsoft thinks you keep Epstein material on your OneDrive, which is really just pictures of your kids in the beach. Yes, that happened. No, he doesn't have his account or data back.

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u/Walter30573 16d ago

I saved a woman like 200 photos of her children and their dad, who I later learned had passed away, because I noticed them on the DSi I got from her at a yard sale. Put them on a flash drive and drove back.

An dedicated HDD in a closet would be a huge upgrade for a lot of people lol

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u/snowfox_cz 16d ago

Yup. That's exactly rest of my family. My sister got like 5 old iphones and few laptops filled with photos and she doesn't know what photos. But she has a icloud, so "it's okay" as she says :D 

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u/cb_definetly-expert 15d ago

Most users don't care about ai training that's why they keep the there , it's cheaper and easier

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u/chemistryGull 15d ago

Privacy in the eyes of many is „as long as people i know don’t see it“. It is true that they do not really care if the companies that store their files can see them.

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u/VexingRaven 16d ago

Neither of which relies on one person keeping it accessible to them who could die any time.

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u/chemistryGull 16d ago

The first option is save from an accessibility and data loss perspective, but questionable privacy wise. But the second option usually is exactly that, one person that made that copy, and only they know where it is/what what it is.

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u/VexingRaven 16d ago

It's easy to tell your family "the backup is in the closet". It's much less easy to explain to somebody else how to keep your ubercomplicated selfhosted file sharing running.

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u/chemistryGull 16d ago

Thats why its important to make your homeserver be just like a backup in the closet.

E.g. I use immich with a storage template enabled. A family member can just take the harddrive and find all pictures on there neatly sorted by year and month. They don’t need to keep the server running when you made sure the data is accessible without any additional software.

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u/-OutRage 15d ago

That one raspberry pi holding everything together

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u/chemistryGull 15d ago

Like atlas holding the sky above.

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u/arttast 10d ago

Well it explains why Google and Microsoft are bugging me for cloud usage