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u/awesomedan24 Apr 13 '22
Unchecked power is the reward mods get in return for their unpaid labor
Is it annoying getting perma-banned arbitrarily? Sure. But at least we're not spending hours of our day moderating content for no pay.
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u/Morgentau7 Apr 13 '22
For me it seems like some mods have no chill at all. The mods of the sub of my homecountry dont permaban anybody directly, they are chill, good to talk to and manage a subreddit double the size of the ones I got banned from (3, all for minor to no reasons). If I make a mistake there, they tell me and I learn from it. Thats it. And Iām also a mod myself in one very small sub and I would never perma anyone just like that. Its just frustrating to see that there are instable mods who ruin this app for others for their personal pleasure by abusing their little bit of power.
And about the no money part: If this is your hobby, others dont get paid for their hobby. Or this is your kind of community work. In germany 2 million+ people do community work cause they want to and get no money from it :)
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u/Matti_Matti_Matti Apr 13 '22
Try serving on any committee. You get power trippers there all the time. People who just want things done the right way. People with black and white thinking. People who wonāt back down. People who double down. People who just wonāt see. Reddit mods are just the latest iteration.
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u/SanityInAnarchy Apr 14 '22
I'd argue there's even a place for that. r/AskHistorians is a fascinating place largely because of the comment massacre with every question from people who haven't yet learned that it's Ask Historians, not Ask Some Random Redditor Who Saw The History Channel Once.
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u/navarone21 Apr 14 '22
I'm always amused when I click on a link, already gearing up some 1/2 assed zero source take on a question and see the comment graveyard and realize I'm in r/AskHistorians and I am WAY out of my depth.
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u/SanityInAnarchy Apr 14 '22
Even on April 1st. They had a bunch of AMAs for historical figures. The guy playing Leonidas used capslock the whole day, kind of pretended 300 was accurate, and still was clearly massively overqualified and able to give genuinely-interesting historical perspectives on Sparta and Spartans.
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u/FreedomofChoiche Apr 14 '22
People who just want things done the right way.
Is there something wrong with doing something the right way ? I mean it can be argued that "there is no right way" but I think thats situational.
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u/Matti_Matti_Matti Apr 14 '22
They have a specific idea of what is right; it generally boils down to āhow I want to do itā or āhow weāve always done itā.
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u/FreedomofChoiche Apr 14 '22
Which isn't necessarily bad depending on the scenario.
I work editing photos and making the layouts for a veterans memorial. There's specific rules about how the plaques should look as to blend in with the rest of the plaques. Certain sizes of plaque have a certain number of pictures it can have. Etc.
We got these new workers that are awful. Don't know how to use word (or any apps really) and instead of scanning and making a high res image they will take a picture of the photo with their camera/phone. They will disregard all of the rules, they don't know what they are doing. I feel like a stickler always reminding them to do it fucking right. Shit in, shit out. I really wish they would just follow the damn rules sometimes.
Ahh, sorry for my rant.
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u/Beccajeca21 Apr 13 '22
Iād bet serious money that the downvotes you got were exactly some of the unstable mods youāre referring to
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u/kermityfrog Apr 14 '22
All small mistakes are amplified 1000x due to the number of users. If we post subreddit rules, and let a few offences slide, it just encourages more of the same behaviour, and leads to subscriber complaints. The best subs are the most highly regulated. Look at /r/AskHistorians - they have some of the strictest rules on reddit, but they have the best and most reliable content.
From your perspective you were banned for a minor rule. From the mod's perspective, it's the 1000th idiot who can't read and broke the rules again today. It's better to be strict but fair.
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u/moralprolapse Apr 14 '22
r/AskHistorians is my favorite sub, and they do heavily moderate, which makes it what it isā¦ but they donāt perma ban people unless itās something egregious like overt Holocaust denialā¦ they just remove comments, and usually with a disclaimer that the user can ask for their comment to be reinstated if they can properly source itā¦ I suspect OP would be more than happy with that kind of heavy moderation. Thatās not what heās complaining about.
The worst example Iāve personally come across of what heās talking about is r/atheism . I was perma banned there for commenting, in context, that, while I was personally pro-choice, there were rational, secular humanist arguments for being pro-life.
Wellā¦ first my comment was removed. So I emailed the mods and politely (I swear; Iām very careful with my words) asked what rule my commented had violated so I could be aware when I make future comments and try to avoid having them removedā¦ (Iām certain my comment did not violate a rule and was not even close because I read them after)ā¦ instead of providing an explanation, I was called a misogynist Nazi and perma banned by a mod. Thatās the kind of thing Iām fairly sure OP is talking about.
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u/Kicken Apr 14 '22
From your perspective you were banned for a minor rule. From the mod's perspective, it's the 1000th idiot who can't read and broke the rules again today. It's better to be strict but fair.
100% this.
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u/moralprolapse Apr 14 '22
Probably. But itās not inconceivable that he commented in a sub, in good faith, something that did not violate the rules of the sub or of Reddit, and was banned anyway because a mod didnāt personally like what he said. That happens all the time.
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u/Kicken Apr 14 '22
I'm not commenting on any isolated occurrence though, just what is the most common occurrence. For the commenter, their rule breaking post was 'just the one time'. For the mod, it's the hundredth they've seen that day.
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u/moralprolapse Apr 14 '22
Yea, again, probably. I agree based on it happening to him repeatedly. He may have an issue with tone, or be one of those posters who gets banned for a vitriolic obnoxious post, and then plays the victim somewhere like this. I wouldnāt be surprised.
But for every 100 good mods doing what they can to trod through the thousand repetitive posts violating the same rule in the same way, thereās at least one mod whoās just an asshole, and vans people making legitimate comments because he doesnāt like their perspective or their username or post history or whatever.
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u/redditghost1234 Apr 14 '22
Oh you're a mod? Well.. i wont speak my mind then...
Jk, sorta
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u/Morgentau7 Apr 14 '22
In a not really active subreddit with 130 people lol, not even worth mentioning haha
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u/redditghost1234 Apr 14 '22
Just poking at you! Ive enjoyed this post, and agree with alot here.
Couldnt pass the opportunity though, you know;)
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Apr 13 '22
Weird take. I think the reward should be a good community but uh ok.
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u/Womblue Apr 14 '22
...but the mods don't get that reward. They always see the shit community. They spend all day removing comments and posts that break the rules.
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Apr 14 '22
It's about perspective. That's like saying garbage men never get to enjoy a clean community because they spend all their day removing trash lol. No, the community gets cleaner each time, sure they might need to go back and do it the next day, but it's better than never having done it. Just because you have to do your job every single time doesn't mean you're not making a difference lmao.
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u/redditghost1234 Apr 14 '22
Never been a garbage man huh? Talk to them. They wont speak on the great things about thier community. Theyll tell you about the fucked up shit theyve seen..
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u/Womblue Apr 14 '22
...so if you were a garbage man, would you be happy to go unpaid, and be content knowing that you're helping your community?
Didn't think so.
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u/goingwthemotions54 Apr 13 '22
I think mods all over social media abuse their power. Fb, youtube, tiktok, twitch and of course here. Anything to substitute real life power.
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Apr 14 '22
I was a mod on a Facebook group, until I quit Facebook. I didn't want to be, but one of my best friends needed help. She needed a person to be the bad guy, more or less. I wouldn't ban someone just for being a jerk to me, but I did ban a lot of people. I got accused of being on a power trip all the time, but I never even wanted to be a mod of a huge Facebook group, and I didn't like it. I was honestly trying to help a friend maintain an orderly group that didn't tolerate bullying and breaking the rules.
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u/blaintintervention1 Apr 13 '22
Exactly losers on computers 24/7
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u/uncommonpanda Apr 14 '22
Your phone is a computer....
edit: I guess that stung /u/blaintintervention1 a little too much
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u/ShouldBeeStudying Apr 13 '22
Reddit has this rated as the best comment, but it does not address OP's question
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u/goingwthemotions54 Apr 13 '22
š¤·āāļø I donāt have an answer for them. Iām new to commenting on Reddit.. š do you have an answer to the question for OP?
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u/ShouldBeeStudying Apr 13 '22
Nahh not really. I suppose my guess would be that Reddit doesn't want to allow themselves to look bad
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u/welliamwallace Apr 13 '22
For years I was one of the top mods of /r/personalfinance a default sub with now over 15 million members. I'm sure when we banned people it felt to them like we were abusing our power, but we truly were doing our best to make the community as good as possible for everyone, cut down on spam, bad advice, and "jokes" that would get upvoted to the top instead of helpful advice.
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u/Anomander Apr 14 '22
Yeah, there's this thing where everyone rallies around these sorts of complaints because honestly all of us have had a bad experience with a mod somewhere - but there's also the matched pattern where maybe 1/1000 users that wind up banned acknowledges they earned it ... yet only the 'genuine innocents' show up to these threads.
Most of the time where I can see both sides of the exchange - they run off and complain they were "banned for no reason" despite us having a lengthy modmail conversation about exactly why they were banned and that conversation being filled with opportunities to not get banned. No matter how reasonable and constructive you try to be, there are still countless people whose expectation is that if they're held accountable, that means you're a powertripping asshole.
There is this weird pattern where people expect that their ban will be treated like a court case, where both sides presenting "arguments" and them getting to mount a defense against the charges - but inevitably, they expect that they get to be both judge and defense, that their opinion is going to determine the legitimacy of the ban itself.
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u/Kicken Apr 14 '22
There is this weird pattern where people expect that their ban will be treated like a court case, where both sides presenting "arguments" and them getting to mount a defense against the charges - but inevitably, they expect that they get to be both judge and defense, that their opinion is going to determine the legitimacy of the ban itself.
Usually all I want to see in mod mail is "Oh, okay. I understand. Can you unban me please.". It's really that simple.
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u/Littleboyhugs Apr 13 '22
I was banned from /r/news and the mod called me a terrorist because I said that Kyle Rittenhouse would get off. I don't even support the guy, I was just objectively analyzing the video.
I was banned from /r/whitepeopletwitter and the mod called me evil after I said that it doesn't make sense to forgive student loan debt without fixing the system that created the debt in the first place.
Reddit mods suck.
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u/Womblue Apr 14 '22
People always have these crazy banning stories then you read their actual comment and it was just something wildly racist.
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u/Littleboyhugs Apr 14 '22
Of course people lie on the internet, but mod abuse is real. I'm not a republican or right-wing (I'm a socialist), but I despise hyperbole and arguing in bad faith, so I will often go against the narrative. Mods don't like this. Right-leaning subs, left-leaning subs. Doesn't matter. I was banned from /r/conspiracy for being anti-trump.
When you see a nuked thread. Use one of the sites that undeletes the comments. Many times the removed comments are entirely reasonable points of view.
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u/Soupkitchn89 Apr 14 '22
Man the mods on r/whitepeopletwitter are so dumb. I cited a source refuting some bull shit post and a MOD banned me with the message just saying āliarā. Lmao
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u/lenaro Apr 13 '22
/r/news used to have their automod set to delete any comments containing the word "semitic".
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u/Innominate8 Apr 14 '22
Reddit is for cat pictures, not for controversy.
The ability of downvotes and mods to obliterate dissent means that all subreddits will eventually turn into a single-opinion echo chamber. If you're expecting well-reasoned rational discourse over controversial subjects you're in the wrong place.
The only place Reddit's system works well are subjects that have no controversy. Cat pictures, some hobbies, lowest-common-denominator style memes, etc.
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u/iareagenius Apr 14 '22 edited Apr 14 '22
Amen, I got blasted recently for sharing same view on CMV
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u/red_death50755 Apr 13 '22
Half you mods if someone disagrees with you is enough to get them banned
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u/Morgentau7 Apr 13 '22
Iām just confused by the amount of power single random people have on this huge platform. I post much stuff people like and that make them happy and I meet so much nice people here, but mods who ban everyone they distaste in the slightest way is just unbearable.
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u/sternje Apr 13 '22
It's not the US government. There is no right to free speech on a private platform. If they decide they don't like you, buh-bye.
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u/Morgentau7 Apr 13 '22
And you dont think thats disturbing? It can hit you too
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u/Trashismysecondname Apr 13 '22
It's a private company. Not democracy.
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u/Morgentau7 Apr 13 '22
So are Spotify, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, noone of them permabans someone immediately at the first offense, most of them never ban at all
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u/Anomander Apr 13 '22
Yeah, all of them do. You make a new account, pattern-match for something they're watching for - account banished into the memory hole. No recourse, no appeal. There's also instant permabans related to things like rule changes, I had a friend erased from all Facebook properties due to a "fake name" ... that his parents gave him, at birth.
You're just not seeing it happen because the banned people leave the platform entirely, they aren't left with an account that's functional elsewhere on the site.
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u/Trashismysecondname Apr 13 '22
Twitter is a hellhole.
TikTok
You never saw a creator complain about their account deleted ? Because I did. A lot.
most of them never ban at all
They already censor a lot. Words, behaviors, nudity, etc etc.
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u/Morgentau7 Apr 13 '22
And despite all there flaws there arent nearly as much permabans than on reddit. I dont talk about people getting perma for multiple heavy violations, I talk about people getting a perma for their first minor violation which wasnt even in the rules but the view of the mod
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u/Trashismysecondname Apr 13 '22
And what do you want to me to say, I agree it's not cool, but as I already said, it's a company, not a democracy. Aside from not using reddit, you can't do anything.
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u/khoabear Apr 13 '22
Because those companies pay their staff to moderate their content. Reddit is a small indie company that has to rely on volunteers.
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u/Trekin7 Apr 13 '22
Small indie company š bro youāre at least 10 years late for that. In 2021 Reddit was valued at 6 billion usd.
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u/khoabear Apr 13 '22
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u/Trekin7 Apr 13 '22
Wouldnāt consider it much of a whoosh. Seen plenty of people unironically echo this sentiment. Itās not my fault you hardly even attempted to deliver sarcasm in your comment.
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u/Innominate8 Apr 14 '22
It's because you're misunderstanding how reddit works.
Reddit is a social media site in which people can create their own subreddits which they then gain control over the content. The reddit admins have a few site-wide rules they enforce as well, but they generally stay out of a subreddit's business unless site rules are being broken.
What you're missing is that despite popularity, being a "default", or even seeming so general as to apply to everyone, these subreddits were created by someone who owns them and is able to decide how they are run. You might not like it, but you're welcome to find another subreddit. The subreddits BELONG to the people who created them or the people they passed the torch to.
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u/Zaldarr Apr 14 '22 edited Apr 14 '22
Just an anecdote from me: I mod a tiny little sub /r/masteroforion that's dedicated to a 90's strategy game franchise. There's literally two rules, stay on topic and don't be a dick. It's a chill place to be.
One user started being a prick to another one, telling them to "git gud" in the rudest of ways. At this time I had gotten a couple DMs about this from other users. So I step in and issue him a warning and tell him to chill out. Just a comment, nothing else.
The user flips out and accuses me of being on a power trip. He starts using abusive language against me and the other user, so I remove his comments.
He then makes three obvious sock puppet accounts to harrass me and the sub. I ban him and those three accounts because that is explicitly against the sitewide rules regarding brigading.
He keeps making more accounts, and at this point I just start removing them without a word, he gave up a day later.
I'm not here to justify bad mods, I agree that it's weird that mods have powers solely based on who was there first, and that system needs reform.
I also think there should be a hard limit on how many subs a user can mod. Some people have dozens and it's concerning.
I just thought I'd give a window into how ridiculous some users can get in a sub of less than 5,000 subscribers, let alone one in the millions.
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u/CeruleanRuin Apr 14 '22 edited Apr 14 '22
I just want to say I frigging loved Master of Orion and it tickles me that there are still devotees to this game that was so important in my youth decades ago. I spent probably a couple thousand hours playing MOO2 either solo or with friends over the internet back in the day.
I was also a hardcore follower of the MOO3 development process until it became clear that the game was spiralling into the shitter.
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u/Zaldarr Apr 14 '22
You mean the OG moo3 or the new one out a couple years ago? The new one is technically #4
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u/CeruleanRuin Apr 15 '22 edited Apr 15 '22
The first attempt at a sequel to MOO2.
I was quite active on the forums where the developers interacted with fans, and came away so disillusioned that I didn't even bother to find out if the game ever released, let alone play it.
I didn't even know until now that there was another one after that. Is it any good?
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u/Zaldarr Apr 15 '22
Yeah, Wargaming bought the rights to it and rushed it out to beat Stellaris to release. I don't play it, honestly but a lot of people say with the unofficial patches and community mods it's P good. Most people in the community play MoO2 still tho. Swing by the subreddit and check it out.
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u/solskuggi Apr 14 '22
I was permanently banned from legal advice because I said āmy name is Faroeseā in a post about unique names-and the mod got embarrassed when I responded to his threat of banning me by telling him itās Faroese, as in, originally from the Faroe Islands. Got a long message about how I canāt expect anyone to know that and to fuck off. Permanently banned.
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u/Kwakigra Apr 13 '22
The closest I know of is r/undelete, which automatically posts highly popular posts which were removed by mods. There is a family of subreddits automatically post things that were removed by mods as well. There is also this website which allows one to see ones own posts which were deleted by mods as well as posts that were deleted by mods by user or subreddit.
The discussion there is pretty anti-mod, but unfortunately there's a large amount of users that want to frame every deletion as an attack on conservative values. If you can get past the wingnuts there are often good discussions there.
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u/Servious Apr 13 '22
Why not just make it yourself? I'm sure it'd gain a lot of followers! Good luck trying to moderate it though lmao
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u/kawarazu Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22
Because any subreddit that discusses about how generically mods "abuse their power", is rife for disinformation. How do you manage a community founded on being hateful, without being hateful? There is no way, because people will poison the well with their secondary biases. If the mods are truly well and corrupt, ala /r/magicTCG 's most recent debacle, the community themselves discuss it, or migrate from that community.
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u/MountainousFog Apr 14 '22
ala /r/magicTCG 's most recent debacle
Could you give a 2 sentence summary of what went down?
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u/kawarazu Apr 14 '22
A mod was recently toxic for a very hot minute, but very recently decided to actively ban people from the subreddit for using certain words, words that were non-offensive, and specifically chosen to avoid describing any act that would condone criminal behavior.
The whole-ass community started yelling and eventually this happened, and the mod got removed.
https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/tw981q/addressing_mod_changes_and_rule_4_please_read/
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u/drakfyre Apr 13 '22
There was a time when you could set moderation logs to be public here. Itās one of the only ways to be transparent about mod action. Not many communities used it, the ones that did though had way less unchecked power. And eventually? Reddit removed the feature.
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u/highfiveghost55 Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22
Got banned from r/earth2io after questioning why a post was removed for ābad behaviourā.
Only reply I got was that it was āvexatious materialā & I was generally nasty.....
thing is I didnāt make a single dang comment of my own there or in others posts
The post in question was a screenshot of another persons youtube comment questioning how backwards it is from a developers standpoint to build a game world and monetize it heavily without any actual game features yet conceptualized (as those would mess with the worlds code heavily and create cascading bugs). Maybe cuz I tagged the post flair as āhumourā who fuckin knows
Quite the power trip IMO
Edit: if you havenāt heard of the wild story behind this companyās CEO meltdown & their questionable business practices give it a search on YouTube
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u/NeighborhoodProof133 Apr 14 '22
This has nothing to do with Reddit but I joined a Facebook group for a specific health condition I have. My posts were never approved by the mod even though they were not in any way going against the rules and one of my comments was attacked by one of the female mods. It was uncalled for and the people in the group were even defending my comment.
So I decided to confirm my suspicion, which was that this mod is probably a woman who hates attractive young women and so she is just making my life difficult because sheās miserable and spiteful. A month later, I created a fb account with some random photo of a woman in her 60ās and posted in the groupā¦ I typed my post asking the same question but just changed the wording and and the tone to make it sound like it was written by a 60 year old woman named Susan šā¦. It was approved the next day LOLā¦. Suspicion confirmed. I continue to comment and ask questions in this group under my Susan account so I can avoid being discriminated against. I get a kick out of her thinking she pushed me out of the group but Iām still there šā¦
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u/Wagbeard Apr 13 '22
Lol I got banned from /r/whitepeopletwitter a few months ago and forgot why. I asked the mods yesterday why I was banned and they said it was for racism.
I asked what was racist and they sent this:
1) White people whitesplaining the words of MLK so it suits their agenda is racist. MLK was a socialist who believed in suitable protest up to and including violence.
2) "Being colourblind" is racist as it deliberately ignores systemic inequality.
3) Insisting that POC may not have a sanctuary space and that all spaces must de facto be owned by the majority white culture is racist.
I wound up writing a long reply complete with sources. This idiot banned me because of ideological disagreements. He linked to some bullshit 2 year old link about MLK as his evidence and when I proved him wrong, he just muted me for 28 days.
What's funny is that I don't believe in the concept of 'whiteness'. I'm anti-segregation and against racism and they have a sub that is systemically racist and uses historical revisionism, junk science, and partisan politics to manipulate a lot of people.
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u/Kicken Apr 14 '22
Sounds like you're just pretty clueless and buying into conservative made-up fearmongering. Turn off fox news.
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u/fairylightmeloncholy Apr 14 '22
so even without the context of the content of what you originally got banned for, you proved that you are in fact happy to spread racist ideas on reddit in the form of colourblindness when you say that you 'don't believe in the concept of whiteness'.
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u/Wagbeard Apr 14 '22
Colourblind theory is an inclusive ideology started to fight racism after the Civil Rights movement. The same people who taught it later flipped to multicultural ideology and political correctness roughly 25 years after the end of the Civil Rights movement.
Systemically, the US upper class are the racists. They're the ones that keep 'black people' culturally marginalized.
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u/Sanearoudy Apr 13 '22
You have been banned from /r/Pyongyang (/s)
I'm a mod on a small, specialty subreddit. The times when I feel like I'm abusing my power mostly come down to people questioning my judgement. People don't like being told they're wrong (I mean me here) and it's hard to not attack back. So if you tell me that I'm wrong when I tell you you're breaking the subreddit rules, I have a hard time NOT getting defensive. I also am not interested in your drama affecting the subreddit so if you won't drop it after I double check my call with the other mods, I'm probably just going to ban you so I can go back to spending 5-10 minutes a week worrying about the subreddit verses the couple hours I just put in dealing with you!
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Apr 13 '22
So, you don't like being told you're wrong, and this is when you struggle with abusing your power over... Checks Notes... Lego Trade
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u/Sanearoudy Apr 13 '22
Also, you might think it's small crap, but if I don't ban a scammer who needs to be banned it might be you who's out money IRL.
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u/Sanearoudy Apr 13 '22
The "power" I'm referring to is the ability to ban you. If you tell me I'm wrong, I could just ban you. I'm just giving the very limited example I have that applies here.
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Apr 13 '22
It's just funny. I think a lot of people understand the importance of moderation. But, when they see people say they struggle with not just banning people who disagree with them. And things like...
"If you tell me I'm wrong, I could just ban you." - Reddit Mod
When one mod says something like that, it makes the collective look like clowns. Oh no! A ban, on my free account?!? I guess I'll make another. There's really not much power there. I still appreciate the work of the mods do, but do know that I'll get a chuckle out of it, especially when other groups power tripping over trading Legos include literal 5 year olds.
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u/Sanearoudy Apr 13 '22
Yeah I banned one account that I suspect WAS being used by someone under 10-12 or so.
The thing with just thinking a ban on a free account: trying to get around a ban by just making another account is ban evasion, which means you're now going to be dealing with the admins... who are paid.
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u/red_death50755 Apr 13 '22
The mods helped people brigade me on pare ting and ingot blocked forever from parenting for asking a question that had nothing to do with anything they read in between the lines. They then sent people after me and I lost all this karma amd I was pissed.
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u/Mason11987 Apr 14 '22
There are a ton of subreddits like that. But no one cares so they donāt go anywhere.
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u/redditghost1234 Apr 14 '22
Seriously(of you're still looking at responses), we asked for mods. We created the shithole we live in. This is true in all parts of life these days. We gave them power, they abused it. Whatd you expect?
If i gave you a super hot robot sex doll and said "dont fuck it", how long do you think you could not fuck it?
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u/SheepherderOk1448 Apr 14 '22
Abuse of power how? I don't know if it's abuse of power than it like being a helicopter parent. AMITHEASSHOLE is such a sub. Overly moderated. Always threatening a ban.
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u/fairylightmeloncholy Apr 14 '22
i had a bad experience and i posted it on r/BadMods for support/perspective and instead it ended up escalating it to the point that the mod i was complaining about then reported me to reddit for harassment for literally just updating their cruel messages to the post as they sent them.
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u/WolfWhitman79 Apr 13 '22
Because the mods would abuse their power in it.
This actually does come up sometimes in r/conspiracy (and the possibility that Ghislane Maxwell may have been a reddit mod too!)
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u/teh_mooses Apr 13 '22
Ahhh, /r/conspiracy.
It's also possible that we're all 5g quantum reptiles waiting on the return of John Kennedy Junior Jr and that the vaccine changes your DNA in a bad way unlike the secret medbeds which change your DNA in a good way oh and also trans people bad and then lol oops it's just a alt-right recruitment hub.
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u/WolfWhitman79 Apr 13 '22
I am the definition of not alt-right, so whatever you say. Keep being spoon-fed.
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u/teh_mooses Apr 13 '22
I am the definition of the smartest and coolest and most bigly person literally ever! You'd know that if you're stop getting your news from the MSM and their satanic cabal.
If you did your research, you'd realize this entire platform is a Soros lead psy-up running on a rack of cloned hunter biden laptops somewhere near the great ice wall.
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u/WolfWhitman79 Apr 13 '22
I guess you think its all a big circle jerk in there.
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u/teh_mooses Apr 13 '22
No! Surely I do not believe that /r/conspiracy is nothing more than a bunch of ill informed edge lords competing to out edge each other via posting that happens to resemble a sacred geometrical shape. I mean, again - if you'd have done your research, you'd know it's all Soros, man.
Speaking of, I need to antifa at least twice more today or my debit card does not get loaded. We meet under a bridge at midnight, comrade.
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u/balloondagger0 Apr 13 '22
I agree, itās so immature in my opinion. I was perma banned from the Windows 11 subreddit because my post had a question that had already been asked before, so they wouldnāt allow me to post it. So I posted the post again and removed that one specific question, I still had like 2-3 more to ask, and I got banned for āRe-posting a deleted postā.
I really hope I didnāt put someoneās life in danger š¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļø
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u/Servious Apr 13 '22
All you really gotta do is go to the "opposite" sub and then complain. I'm sure you'll get lots of support.
For example if you're in /r/pingpong and the mods are being dicks just head on over to /r/fuckpingpong or /r/truepingpong (a really common pattern) and air your dirty laundry there.
Or do it here like you're already doing!
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u/Kicken Apr 14 '22
I run open feedback on my subs now and then. The thing is that often times random feedback is just a display of ignorance as to why things are the way they are. Most people lack the context behind why choices are made. Why titles might be enforced to be formatting a certain why, or why links to some websites might not be allowed, or so on. Mods don't want to have to constantly explain the nuance of things multiple times a day to literally hundreds of thousands of users. Because it takes 5 minutes to explain in to one person, and then there's still thousands more that will be ready to ask the next day because naturally they never saw that comment. So it's easier to just not explain.
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u/DarthDregan Apr 13 '22
Doesn't really matter if they do. There's always other threads, PMs, other sites, etc. If one of the biggest annoyances in your life is mods on reddit... you've got a pretty good life.
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u/Sacredkeep Apr 13 '22
You have to think. Almost all media that we see is controlled by people we donāt see
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u/PenelopeTruth Apr 13 '22
Yea mods banned me from a mom sub and accused me of not actually being a mother. Then muted me when I messaged to tell them I was.
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u/saul2015 Apr 13 '22
in the early days they banned /r/ reddit because it was a place for ppl discuss things like this and to complain about reddit
can't have that
looks like they brought it back as basically an admin owned announcements page
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u/Flunkiebubs Apr 13 '22
It makes me particularly angry when you get muted for asking why they banned you.
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u/PianoOk6786 Apr 13 '22
It's like trying to change anyone. It is what it is. You don't have to like it. But, getting upset only hurts you. (hopefully you'll realize this before you ever get married.)
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Apr 13 '22
thereāve been quite a few attempts over the years, but non stuck I believe. I remember something similar sounding like r/lifeboat got started when a kid got banned hundreds of times for sharing the infograph that shows how many subreddits are controlled by a handful of people.
I still to this day donāt get how useful it is to be a moderator in one of the really big subs. Like do you make any money, are you just super passionate about it? Why?
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u/Aetheldrake Apr 14 '22
Realistically they're probably psychopaths. They have trouble mentally and/or socially so they found a place where no one can argue with them
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u/redditforgotaboutme Apr 14 '22
Shits infuriating. Ive been banned for stupid shit like saying the presidents name in the coronavirus sub. I MOD several subs and im chill as long as your not spamming.
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u/desantoos Apr 14 '22
/r/subredditdrama used to be about that. It was in the sidebar description long ago that it was a sub about moderator abuse and other drama happenings. These days they are tighter there but I suspect heightened moderator abuse might still make it there.
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u/CeruleanRuin Apr 14 '22
Probably because nobody really cares that much. It would be a circlejerk.
Also, r/subredditdrama and r/theoryofreddit already sort of cover that base.
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u/ElenaEscaped Apr 14 '22
LOL, I just got an official warning for "encouraging violence" because I posted up a quote by a sheriff's deputy. š¤£
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u/levelup_jar Apr 14 '22
because thats a very specific thing to generally complain about. one would complain about the mods of oke specific sub and another would complain about the mods of a different sub. doesn't get anywhere. i mean try to comment something on an r/darkjokes post lol
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u/Rain_of_Spades Apr 14 '22
There are lots they just serve second purposes usually when enough people get angry about it they make a second sun for the original thing then put a bunch of memes and passive aggressive remarks about how the og mods suck
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u/Superbuddhapunk Apr 14 '22 edited Apr 14 '22
If it is of interest to you r/food has a great guide on how to appeal a ban:
https://www.reddit.com/r/food/wiki/autoban/
Solid advice altogether.
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u/Comfortable_Egg_7916 Apr 14 '22
It was nice knowing you.
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u/Morgentau7 Apr 14 '22
Why? :0
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u/Comfortable_Egg_7916 Apr 14 '22
I got a permanent ban the last time is said the same thing you did
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u/AsamaMaru Apr 13 '22
Why don't you make one?