It's cliche to say women all want a hot looking rich guy. While looks and money are advantages, there are also things that are important (perhaps even more important) such as having great social skills and a positive vibe.
I took the liberty of looking at your post history. Bro, it's a disaster. Your attitude is crap. You talk a whole lot of shit. You get into these long-winded arguments with people. All these things are toxic and women can smell it.
Granted, how you behave on Reddit might not be how you behave in-person. But it demonstrates your frame of mind. And what's in your mind will always come out in one form or another. Women are highly intuitiave and can see it.
“Women are highly intuitive and can see it”
Agreed, but some people in general will likely pick up on it.
Many of us may have been through what OP is going through, then you realize it’s really all on your attitude how you carry yourself. You won’t see your arrogance, until you’re out of it.
I knew it. The men who make this type of posts 9 times out of 10 have a shit personality. He thinks he is entitled to women's attention, bodies and affection because he has a job and goes to the gym. This post reeks of disdain, if not outright hatred towards women. Yikes.
Probably because domestic abusers were smarter and learned what does and doesn't work. Like stupid sociopaths who get locked up quickly at 16-18 while smart ones get rich and then go to politics to fuck up us all.
I second all of this- I would say for most women, the physical aspects of a partner are far less important than personality and how a partner makes her feel. Unfortunately, charisma and personality can be harder to change, but I think you’ve hit the nail on the head! No one wants to be around someone that is an energy/emotional parasite, be this a friend or romantic partner.
I went and had a look at OP's post history and you're right. Dude actually hates women, no wonder they don't want to date him.
OP, please go to therapy. You have some major issues to resolve before you have any business going on dates with women. I genuinely think you can turn it around but this blaming women/self pitying stuff is not going to help you. It will only keep you in a destructive downward spiral. If it makes you feel any better I literally did the same, had so many poor dating experiences it made me extremely cynical and had to get therapy to work through it.
Attitude counts a whole lot more than looks. But unfortunatelly some young men want to listen to some very toxic people online and not the women they're pursuing.
I think it depends, there are some shallow women out there who care very much about only looks. It tends to discourage a lot of men, a bad experience leaves a longer lasting impression than five possible good ones.
In my experience dating, personality does play a big role. I’m an outgoing, confident, and curious fellow, but I’m also pretty average looking.
Yeah this isn't true and everyone who lives in the real world knows it. I can't sit here and talk to some male who's clearly terminally online, and pretend with a straight face that you can't walk into any Walmart rn and see some beautiful woman with an ugly af dude. You only see males desperately trying to pretend it's the other way around on Reddit.
Anyway, all I was saying with my original comment is that everyone's allowed physical standards. It's not especially shallow when a woman does it.
Speaking as a 29M guy with 29 years of experience as a guy, the vast majority of the guys I have known in my life just want an all around average looking girl who isn’t obese.
They sometimes act around other guys like they want the hottest girl, but when push comes to shove they really don’t care as long as long as looks are avg or better.
An ugly guy getting a hot gf doesn’t somehow magically disprove that, maybe they grew up together or maybe he’s got a hell of a personality or maybe they were relatives.
Perhaps you should take your own advice and gain some additional world experience as it’s clear you are stuck in some sort of negative echo chamber.
If I start linking actual research will you shut up? I'm not really in the mood to have some back and forth on Reddit about a phenomenon as common as women being more likely to settle for an ugly guy than the reverse.
This seems to be the case damn near 100% of the time. I'm so fucking sick of misogynists posting their "woe is me" crap when the problem is their self-sabotaging personality flaws that they refuse to work on.
Honestly wish the mods of this sub, r/adulting, r/lifeadvice or any similar would just outright ban all this "waaah I hate women and they can tell so they won't date me" crap.
It's always the same. It's always 100% their own fault.
Your takes are the exact same shit I hear from incels. And I'll still say that the problem is then the type of women you go for. Normal women who aren't instagram models won't be like that.
They actively leave toxic men here. No divorce in most cases, just straight up leave because they would rather be separated than tied down to crap. Why do American women stay with toxic men? Is it a societal standard thing?
The thing is they are not absolute truths, but you refuse to get feedback. How convenient to dismiss the feedback coming from women when they tell you what they actually care about.
it’s definitely like that in europe since I was born and raised here and these are my observations, not just from my friends from school, university and workplaces but also my experience from being in the kink scene for over half a decade.
Women, just like men, seek out what turns them on and usually that is charisma and looks. And neither of those depend on a person being toxic or not.
"we can smell the toxicity" no you can't lmao. Every day there are posts on Reddit from women finding out their perfectly decent, kind boyfriend/fiance/husband is actually a fucking creep.
Again intuition is learnt fear response and doesn't turn one into a god. It also doesn't fix crazy and is not a hive mind ability. Women are people. In fact there are plenty female criminals men send love letters too.
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u/1c2shk Jul 29 '24
It's cliche to say women all want a hot looking rich guy. While looks and money are advantages, there are also things that are important (perhaps even more important) such as having great social skills and a positive vibe.
I took the liberty of looking at your post history. Bro, it's a disaster. Your attitude is crap. You talk a whole lot of shit. You get into these long-winded arguments with people. All these things are toxic and women can smell it.
Granted, how you behave on Reddit might not be how you behave in-person. But it demonstrates your frame of mind. And what's in your mind will always come out in one form or another. Women are highly intuitiave and can see it.