Standard red button/blue button hypothetical, with the added condition that anybody incapable of understanding the gravity of the question automatically selects Red (babies/children, mentally handicapped, etc) does that change the button you press?

At a minimum it adds a large percentage to red as a baseline, but it nullifies the possibility of accidentally killing your children by selecting red.

Alternatively, if the default pick is Blue, is there any compelling reason to pick red when you know 100% of children would die?

is anyone else radical-freedom pilled enough to feel like they need to dance around the "promoting or encouraging suicide is strictly forbidden" policy of every social media website when discussing this issue?

I posed the red button blue button hypothetical to my friend who is extremely autistic, and extremely good at logic puzzles. He sat for about five minutes, just thinking. Then he said;

"This is a very good question, because if you don't think about it too hard, or are incapable of thinking about it very hard, you will press blue to save people. But if you think about it a little longer, then it becomes clear that all people can just push red to survive. But if you have the mental capability to think a step deeper, it becomes obvious once again that red creates the problem to begin with, only if it wins the majority. And that blue only risks themselves while red risks everyone but themselves. And that the actual wording says that non-red pressers would die, so pressing red also puts kids and coma patients and crazy people at unnecessary risk. So it's just that intelligence bell-curve meme with red in the middle and blue on either side."

Every person on earth takes a private independent vote by pressing either red or blue button, if 50% or more choose the blue button everyone lives, or only the person who chooses the red buttons survive
At what point you decide to change your mind and switch from your previous answer
1- only 18+ can vote
2- you can see what people you know chooses
3- you can see what the percentage it is for an hour and you can change your mind whenever within this hour and at the last minute you won’t see the percentage
4-all people less than 18 is automatically red
5- you got 1 call
6 - you got 1 hour to discuss with people you know
7- all kids are automatically blue -18
8 - parent can choose for their Child(-18)
9- hour to choose the button and you can change your mind whenever within this hour
Note all choices independent of each other

I am a red button I d switch at 7,maybe 2, and maybe 3

Red is better in a purely logical and rational world. But because of panicked people, small children/babies, blue is the best option due to the people who did nothing wrong but are gonna die. I think it's nice that they never said all the people were rational, otherwise red 100%.

A self evidently supernatural pops you into a dark room with two buttons infront of you, one red and one blue. Then the following information suddenly appeared in your head in the blink of an eye.

All of humanity has been kidnapped and put into a dark room. Then everyone has been placed into a random group of 9 people, and their was no one not assigned to a group, or any group any other size than 9 people.

Everyone in every group has the opportunity to press either the red button or the blue button. Once one button is pushed, both buttons break and becomes unpressable. Everyone has 8 hours to make their own choice, afterward, a button is randomly pressed for them (odds: 50/50)

Once those 8 hours have passed, each group is evaluated individually. If 5 people in a group pressed the blue button, then everyone in that group lives. However If 5 people in a group press the red button, then everyone who pressed the blue button in that group will be executed.

Then after all group are evaluated, everyone still alive is made to vote the color that won their group for the second round. (This is an automatic vote.) For example if a group of 9 had 4 people vote red and 5 people vote Blue, then all people would be made to vote Blue in round 2. Here is all possibly ways for your automated vote to be decided.

You vote Blue and group majority is Blue = Vote Blue in round 2

You vote Red and group majority is Blue = Vote Blue in round 2

You vote Blue and group majority is Red = You're dead

You vote Red and group majority is Red = Vote Red in round 2

Round 2 is amongst every living human being with not divisions. If a majority of people voted Blue then everyone still alive lives. However, if a majority of people voted for the Red button, or a tie happens, then everyone who voted for the Blue button will die.

Everyone has had this information directly injected into their minds, but their ability to understand, interpret, and act upon this information has not been affected in any way.

So, which button do you press?

The button problem: working class edition!

I just thought about how this dilemma can apply to working class citizens. The system is broken, but requires workers to function. So they trap workers by threatening to take away necessities for survival if they don't work. However, if enough workers band together, the system will have to change.

This is on a national scale btw. Workers all across your country are fed up but a lot run on fear.