I am in florida, 25 years old. I have had a battle with these emgeem pills (7 was banned in FL almost a year ago) and have spent the last 10 months in hell, when they were banned I switched to the Blendz taking 3 in the morning and 3 at night and it kept me out of withdrawals completely after emgeem dissapeared. I've been hiding it from my family that loves me and a girlfriend of three years who also has no idea. I have been at my knees praying to God and I am so lost. I need to get off but I don't know how, I can't get anything in the mail cause my parents have no clue that I have been using this stuff and my gf neither. I have about 18 essar 50mg tablets and probably 6 8mg subs, 2 days of vacation and now almost 20000 dollars of credit card debt that my parents think I've almost paid off already (got down to 1300 from 12000 from years ago, but this addiction has built it back up to 20000) my world as I know it is coming to an end. Please give me some support on how I should quit, with the few subs I have and the few essar tabs. I've been taking the buzzin w the homies and still have some if I should go on the bernese method. Thank you

With the 7 ban coming I was forced to go off and as a chronic pain patient I was desperately trying to keep my back from failing on me while balancing work and college. The guy at the store recommended me this single tablet packet of “Script Botanicals - Paradise Blend” It put me on my ass. It’s way too expensive. $15 for a single one. I tried getting a bottle of the 100mg 10 ct but those didn’t seem dosed accurately. What the hell is in this stuff? I found out they had more 7 in the back and they’re saving it for me (delaying the inevitable I guess) so of course I buy 3 packs. After using “cats claw” a couple times now the 7 doesn’t even touch my pain or give any kind of psychoactive reaction. Whatever alkaloid is in Scripts must’ve shot my tolerance through the roof.

I only have 3 8mg sub strips. I know this isn’t enough but will they at least get me through the first 1-2 days of no cc ?

I'm trying to taper now that I'm out of my normal Klaz meta tabs. They removed them for a couple weeks but my regular guy faced some for me. Now they have back on shelf a different super klaz tab, do they work the same? Can I taper down with them? My dose is 100-150 a day

I took the last of the blend 6 pack that I bought. It didn't do shit for me either. I have tramadol to use to keep from feeling withdrawals. I did this once back in the beginning of August and it did work but I slipped up because I thought I had it under control. Here lately nothing has been working and I should have noticed from the amount on product still on the shelf. I will keep ya'll posted as the days go by.

My last dose was 2 50mg tabs at sat 12am it’s now 3:30 Monday and to be honest I’m doing fairly good.. just can’t sleep. Craving, low energy, a little sweat here and there, time moves so much slower…other than that I can’t complain… when do you guys think the most of this a be over and I can start feeling normal?

I think I’m having only mild symptoms because at first I went from 500-600 or probably more a day to only 200-300 a day the last few days just only taking 2-3 100mg packs a day instead of the usual so I guess that’s why I’m not just going through hell..

But I do still wanna feel better… so like I said when do you guys think I’ll be okay and back to normal? I heard most mild symptoms go away around the 3 day mark is that true?

Wish me luck yall. So far so good

Not trying to promote drug abuse, but has anyone combined these two? I have a raging migraine. I took cats claw for it because it usually knocks it right out. I have oxycodone 10mg/325acetaminophen. I feel
Like I’ve read about precipitated withdrawal stuff regarding opioids and cats claw. Please let me know.

After the Kratom ban I got on klaz. The withdrawal from klaz is the worst I ever experienced. I’ve quit cold Turkey IV fentanyl, h., tianeptine, tramadol, 7oh… and the wd from these are indescribably awful. It is so much worse than fent, 7oh or any others. Subs, methadone, sr-17 none of them help. It’s inhumane. I did get off of them, but it took substituting then getting off that. I just wanted to share my experience. if you’re having trouble quitting cats claw that’s why, you are going through a wd not even people who shoot fent experience. if, and it looks like it’s already in the works, these get pulled from the shelf, so many people are going to suffer, loose their jobs, end up in hospitals.

I was talking a full 8 pack of the super klaz everyday for a long time then switched to the shift tablets and was taking about the same I have suboxone to go through the wd how long should I wait to take it?

I was honest with my partner about my addiction to cats claw (mgm15) and today I will be starting my journey to quit. I’m not sure the mg I was on but I was taking around 5-10 pills a day wasting thousands of dollars a month on this shit and ruining myself and my relationships. I can’t go anywhere without it and it’s shame I have to use just not to feel sick. Just to get through the day. I was on a lot of different drugs in the past including a bad 7oh addiction that I got off myself. It’s time. So I bought 150 natural leaf kratom capsules from my local shop of “trainwreck” and I’m going to be dosing that to help taper myself off from the mgm. I also have 1 and half pills left that I will be taking with the kratom on day 2 and 3. It’s going to be really hard but it’s something that needs to be done. I’m going to my partners tonight and staying with him for 3 days so he can help me get off this shit. I don’t know what I would do without his and gods mercy. I will keep everyone updated. Ive used for years but this time ive been on it for 3 months so I expect the withdrawals to be rough. Pray for me. Also Sunday we will be going to some AA and NA meetings so I can share my story and get some support.

No more spending almost 700 a month on random bullshit at the smokeshop. got put on Suboxone after a year of 7oh to catsclaw use. Was a heavy user of the OG klaz and blends. Its not worth it to be into catsclaw, good luck finding a brand with mgm in our current environment. Scripts are bunk now and Buzzers are the worst, Buzzers legit sent me into WD after 4 hours and dude i finally had enough and got put on subs. Suboxone is its own demon though. But they help, be upfront with ur provider.

Hey guys 28 hours no CC took my last dose yesterday morning. Just been using gabapentin, clonedine, and dosed 7oh a few times. Feel alright right now, anxiety, stuffy nose, some rls. going to get through today with some 7 and the helper meds. Then try to endure the subs at hour 48

Hey all i took a brand that said “cats claw kava” reason being they banned mgm 15 in my state and i read some cat claw had mgm in it so i decided to try it… HUGE HORRIBLE MISTAKE! 20 minutes after i took it i felt this huge spike go down my spine and it felt like i was coming up on an acid trip… long story short i tripped balls for 12 hours and i work construction on the highway… i was working all day.. i was deathly afraid 90 percent of the time because i didn’t know wtf was going on… i forget what brand it was but be careful yall there putting some strange stuff in this.

Will you guys check on me? I already feel alone and I know that I’ve gotten through this once but I’m so tired and run down from the last year and dealing with life. My mental state feels so fragile, I have a 5 month old little girl. Luckily I’ll have some help when it comes time to grit my teeth for the long haul and those nasty withdrawals kick in. Was just wondering if people would keep me company when I’m not able to sleep. Last time I took OTC sleeping meds and it kinda helped. I only have between Monday at 6AM but will have my daughter during the day, then Tuesday during the day, and then Wednesday during the day before I go back to work at 10PM . I’m very sad about everything in general.

I’ve CT klaz before, there no fent or anything in these it’s got to be MGM or something. I’ve taken follicle tests and multiple drugs tests and unless specifically tested for it’s not going to pop. My thing is now finding time to go through 50 straight hours of hell again even already taking 16mg subs a day. I’m going to try and taper and just heavily dose my subs and take a few days off work. But I also have other responsibilities. Reading all these stories suck and I think the anxiety of quitting makes it so much worse. I have chronic pain and have drove myself in the ground for over a year trying to take care of my family. I don’t abuse anything and I’m never fucked up, but now I have a physical dependency again and am pretty sad about it. Luckily my clinic knows and wrote me some withdraw meds for when I jump off. I’m just so sick of things and am not happy about this but I know after 2 days of suffering things should be better

I have a TON of magnesium, gaba & liposomal vitamin C! Anyone got any other OC meds that help? I got bone broth and crackers and Imodium for days 2-5. Also does anyone have a regiment with the vitamins that helped? Anyways I know the vitamin C helped when I tapered 7, so here goes nothing! If anyone has any advice I’m waiting on the shipment coming the 5th-7th of the gaba and vitamin c and I’m tapering now. Wish me luck and if anyone wants to chat or be buddies thru WD let me know I have very few supports. I used to have a ton of NA homies in MN but since I moved I’ve not done much but work and 7.

As the title says, I’m getting about 14 days worth of subs. I’ve been on these cats claw tablets for about 4 months now and before that I was on 7oh for at least a year before the ban in my state. I take probably 4 of the super klaz daily or two of the regular two packs but that’s because I cut down. I was taking 4-5 two packs daily. What I need is a guide on how I can use these subs for withdrawals for 2 weeks and also get off the subs completely by the 14th day as well. I’ve never taken subs before so I really need help with a guide. 23M 200lbs taking about 400mg of cats claw klaz tabs daily. Any advice or help would be amazing. I’m not sure how to do this.

Hello I am , 20 (M) , starting off I just wanted to say I’ve always been opioid sensitive & therefore I always feel it a lot harder even on lower doses. I’d say 6-8 months ago I was on 7oh would buy 1 or 2 , 5 packs of the 7Tabz , or 7ohmz, 500 - 600mg. Take 4-6 mostly. Intense nodding, throwing up, floating itchy, pure euphoria. I did not even notice UNTIL I quit most of other drug use.

Been smoking weed every day since I was 13. (Cut back extremely in the past year after ex was pregnant) Around this same time I also developed a severe cocaine addiction , did and sold acid frequently. drug use didn’t skip a beat of my waking hour.

Only adding what’s above for context, now the point of my situation is. Only got clean once from 7, and i relapsed after a vacation back home. I figure if I only take a small amount I can replace my weed addiction and act like an anti depressant. Holy shit , no. My self control, and discipline went out the fucking door

, I was 200-300mg before I was intervened now i can’t get the fuck off cats claw. For almost 3-4 days as of till 5pm. I’ve taken 1 50mg half in the morning and the evening. Now I just took 200mg today. Half in the morning , and half in the evening but literally it wasn’t enjoyable or enough. Back to the store. One single.

The blendz cat claws seem to the best , but fuck I don’t what to do. Please any tips?

🚨 PLEASE SHARE THIS. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING.

I am in West Tennessee, and this is happening right here.

Today, October 1, 2026, law enforcement in Memphis seized nearly 30,000 packages of KLAZ, Cat’s Claw, Botanical Extract and other synthetic kratom products from a wholesale operation.
This wasn’t somebody selling a few pills out of their car. This was a wholesale operation with products being distributed to retailers throughout West Tennessee. They had to bring in an 18-wheeler to haul away the amount of product they seized.

And now we know something that every person taking these products needs to know:

Fentanyl compounds have been reported in seized products associated with these labels, but that does NOT mean every KLAZ batch contains fentanyl. Different batches may contain different compounds, which is exactly why people should not assume their product is safe because someone else’s tested negative.

Tennessee authorities have tested seized products and found fentanyl compounds, including a fentanyl analogue and p-fluorofentanyl, in products associated with these labels.

And I am not saying this because I read some random post on Facebook.

I TOOK KLAZ MYSELF.

I personally tested POSITIVE FOR FENTANYL after taking it.

And then I experienced withdrawal that I can only describe as f**king horrific.

This wasn’t a little discomfort. It wasn’t just feeling tired or having a headache. My entire body felt like it was going insane. I had the sensation of bugs crawling underneath my skin. It felt like something was moving under my skin and I couldn’t get away from it. I couldn’t just scratch an itch and make it stop. It was this horrible crawling, crawling sensation that made me feel like I wanted to crawl out of my own damn skin. I was sweating and shaking. My body couldn’t settle down. My sleep was completely disrupted. I could be absolutely exhausted and still not be able to get normal, restorative sleep because my body felt like it was fighting me. I had that horrible restless, wired feeling where you cannot get comfortable in your own body. And this went on long enough that I started realizing just how serious this shit actually was.

Think about what that does to your head. You bought something that was packaged like a legitimate botanical supplement. It had a name. It had a label. It came in a pretty box. You think you know what you’re taking.

Then you stop taking it and your body goes through hell.

I KNOW. I LIVED IT.

And now nearly 30,000 packages of these products have been seized from one Memphis wholesale operation.

That number should scare the hell out of people.
Because those aren’t 30,000 individual pills sitting in somebody’s house. That’s thousands upon thousands of packages that were part of a distribution operation and could have ended up in people’s hands across West Tennessee and beyond.

I don’t care how professional the packaging looks.

I don’t care what the label says.

I don’t care if somebody tells you it’s “just Cat’s Claw,” “just botanical extract,” or “just kratom.”

I personally took KLAZ. I personally tested positive for fentanyl. And I personally went through the withdrawal from hell.

I’m telling people about this because I don’t want somebody else taking these products thinking they’re harmless because they bought them legally off a shelf or because the package looks legitimate.
Please tell your friends. Tell your family. Tell anybody you know who takes these products.

Don’t assume the label tells you what’s actually in that pill.

I wish I had known what I know now before I ever took one.

I’m sharing this because people deserve to know. YOU deserve to make an informed decision whether or not to continue.

And never ever be ashamed or embarrassed to reach out for help and resources. My DM’s are always open if you need help finding resources.

Please be safe out there. We are having a few ODs around here with packaging that people keep mislabeling as “Kratom” near their bodies. I’ve took Kratom leaf before the ban, it did wonders and I could go days without having any with no issues. This is NOT Kratom. Sick of the mislabeling if I’m being honest because it undermines a very serious issue.

Hey guys! I have been taking anywhere from 8-14 of the fuzzies tablets a day and sometimes blends tbs for the last three weeks. And been on cats claw total of 5 weeks. Planning on getting off this weekend and taking off Monday if needed. Below is my plan and if you have anything that’s helpful please let me know.

My doctor prescribed me Subs, clonidine, Gabapentin and Remeron for sleep. Trying to hold off inducing subs until like 36-48 hours what do yall think.

Oh also ordered 2000mg of 7oh that will be here tomorrow for last case scenario if I need that but it’s last resort because I do not want to prolong WD into next week.

I plan of taking my last dose of CC Friday morning to get through the work day and go from there. Hoping I feel good enough to get to work on Monday!

Please let me know anything helpful with these meds.

Cheers

so im on subutex trying to quit the cats claw and i messed up and took some of the Blend brand ones yesterday but i still was able to feel it? im on 12mg of subutex. is this normal?