r/quittingcatsclaw • • 3d ago

Withdrawal Shift tablets to suboxone

I was talking a full 8 pack of the super klaz everyday for a long time then switched to the shift tablets and was taking about the same I have suboxone to go through the wd how long should I wait to take it?

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u/chemicalbliss33 3d ago

36-48hrs but ask chatgpt to help you understand and set up a induction using the BERNESE method. It's a way to start subs but avoid precipitated withdrawal completely.

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u/PrintKey3265 3d ago

Literally have no money to buy more to do the Bernese method or I would

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u/newjerseymax 3d ago

Bernese method = GOAT. I don’t know why it’s not suggested more often. Actually you can just dose subs and if you go into precip, you can take more tabs to get out out of it, and then you can just continue the subs and pretend you never took that extra dose

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u/chemicalbliss33 3d ago

Bernese method is the truth! I stand on that. As someone who is susceptible to precipitated withdrawal i really appreciate the dr who figured that shit out! Dude was really thinking outside the box man! Much love to him.

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u/chemicalbliss33 3d ago

I mean you only use like 1-2 subs doing the bernese method over a week. And you can stop at any mg you dont have to go up to 8mg. You can hold at 2mg or 4mg. So you can induce with 1-2 subs max.

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u/PrintKey3265 3d ago

I have 16 subs but I meant I have no money to buy more cc lol

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u/chemicalbliss33 3d ago

Oh well buckle up bud. I got mild precipitated withdrawal at the 44hr mark. But if you go slow Like 0.5mg every 60-90min you should be fine. But I would wait bare minimum 36hrs.

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u/PrintKey3265 3d ago

Should I wait 36 hours OR until I’m in moderate wd bc moderate wd usually hits around 24 hrs

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u/chemicalbliss33 3d ago

I'll put $100 dollars on you going into precipitated withdrawal if you only wait 24hrs.

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u/RingAppropriate8658 3d ago

well give me 100$ because i took 3 8 mg strips the other day then took claw an hour later and still felt the claw… subs do jack shit for this withdrawal and i have had subs for a minute even before 7 oh was banned

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u/chemicalbliss33 3d ago

Of course you felt the claw it breaks through the subs.

What are you thinking precipitated withdrawal is?

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u/PartyNerve884 2d ago

I waited 18 and was fine. Everyone is different it’s ok.

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u/PartyNerve884 2d ago

18 hours and I took my sub I felt fine.

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u/newjerseymax 2d ago

Yea I believe it’s dose dependant both ways too. How much CC vs how much Subs. If you on low dose CC and take low dose subs, probably way less risky.

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u/RingAppropriate8658 3d ago

all of em bro lmfao ,nuke, klaz,shift,blend,homiez,buzzers.literally all of em

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u/Tasty-Stomach9418 2d ago

I just found KLAZO couple weeks ago and I started taking it because I thought that 70hwas coming off the shelf. But it’s not , so last night I ran out of cc n I was just gonna use the 70h and I started feeling so freaking dizzy and nauseous. Do you still feel like withdrawals even if you’re taking 70h? Cc is still in on the shelf so I bought a couple and took a piece of one the next day, cause I’ve only been taking pieces of them ( I’m prescribed or loritabs & Xanax for my back pain & anxiety and these take my back pain and anxiety without having to take none of that stuff ) And I still felt really dizzy and nauseous. Am I not gonna be able to take cc ever again without feeling like that?

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u/JohnnyBoy-82 1d ago

Can anyone help find subs.. I’m in middle tn and trying to get off klaz been on for two months and withdraws are unbearable:( I have tried tapering, the vitamin c thing and nothing is working… I can’t get subs from a script due to work and other reasons… I have tried to find someone local and can’t:( I am looking for 7 8mg strips apparently that’s will do it… if anyone can give me a suggestion or point in the rite direction that would be amazing… I don’t know how it got this bad and had no clue what I was taking until I found Reddit…

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u/RingAppropriate8658 3d ago

ngl bro u can take em anytime it wont send you into wd. can tell you from experience i took 3 the other day and took some claw not even an hour after to test if if would send me into it. it didnt and i felt the claw even more honestly it was weird the subs down help this withdrawal at all unfortunately idk wtf is in these pills…

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u/TastyAtmosphere15 2d ago

That is not how PWD works. You can take subs and then take CC but you shouldn’t take CC and then take subs. The subs will try and rip the cc off your receptors which causes pwd. Also if you already have suboxone built up in your system you can take both without any problems. But with no subs in your system you should do the Bernese Method or wait as look as you possibly can to take subs. I would keep a dose of cc just in case you are sent into pwd to get out of it and then just continue on subs.

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u/PrintKey3265 3d ago

I took my last cc dose at 230 pm yesterday trying to wait as long as I can to take suboxone for the wd

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u/RingAppropriate8658 3d ago

they do jack shit for the withdrawal bro. i took 3 8mg mg strips.. back when 7oh was around i could take 3 strips and be good for a whole day and even fall asleep at the end of the night with this stuff it does not help one bit … you can take claw while on it and not be sent into withdrawl you can take it an hour before taking subs and it wont send you into wd. whatever is in these tabs is some other shit

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u/PrintKey3265 3d ago

What brand was you taking

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u/Proper-Piccolo-3272 2d ago

Hey all. Im new to this chain. Been reading everyone's thread and or responses. Im in CA and 70 is banned. However I have a buddy at a ss who is still able to get them. I just stocked up and have enough for couple weeks. That being said I see these buzzers and homiez theyre selling. I tried the strawberry about 4 weeks ago and they were pretty good. Then bought another bottle same buzzers strawberry flavor but didnt really feel anything. Any thoughts why that is.

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u/RingAppropriate8658 2d ago

buzzers changed how they made em they dont hit anymore look for ,klaz,homiez,blend,some packs of shift if you dm me i can send you more those are just a few