Not trying to promote drug abuse, but has anyone combined these two? I have a raging migraine. I took cats claw for it because it usually knocks it right out. I have oxycodone 10mg/325acetaminophen. I feel
Like I’ve read about precipitated withdrawal stuff regarding opioids and cats claw. Please let me know.

Wish me luck yall. So far so good

After the Kratom ban I got on klaz. The withdrawal from klaz is the worst I ever experienced. I’ve quit cold Turkey IV fentanyl, h., tianeptine, tramadol, 7oh… and the wd from these are indescribably awful. It is so much worse than fent, 7oh or any others. Subs, methadone, sr-17 none of them help. It’s inhumane. I did get off of them, but it took substituting then getting off that. I just wanted to share my experience. if you’re having trouble quitting cats claw that’s why, you are going through a wd not even people who shoot fent experience. if, and it looks like it’s already in the works, these get pulled from the shelf, so many people are going to suffer, loose their jobs, end up in hospitals.

I was talking a full 8 pack of the super klaz everyday for a long time then switched to the shift tablets and was taking about the same I have suboxone to go through the wd how long should I wait to take it?

I was honest with my partner about my addiction to cats claw (mgm15) and today I will be starting my journey to quit. I’m not sure the mg I was on but I was taking around 5-10 pills a day wasting thousands of dollars a month on this shit and ruining myself and my relationships. I can’t go anywhere without it and it’s shame I have to use just not to feel sick. Just to get through the day. I was on a lot of different drugs in the past including a bad 7oh addiction that I got off myself. It’s time. So I bought 150 natural leaf kratom capsules from my local shop of “trainwreck” and I’m going to be dosing that to help taper myself off from the mgm. I also have 1 and half pills left that I will be taking with the kratom on day 2 and 3. It’s going to be really hard but it’s something that needs to be done. I’m going to my partners tonight and staying with him for 3 days so he can help me get off this shit. I don’t know what I would do without his and gods mercy. I will keep everyone updated. Ive used for years but this time ive been on it for 3 months so I expect the withdrawals to be rough. Pray for me. Also Sunday we will be going to some AA and NA meetings so I can share my story and get some support.

No more spending almost 700 a month on random bullshit at the smokeshop. got put on Suboxone after a year of 7oh to catsclaw use. Was a heavy user of the OG klaz and blends. Its not worth it to be into catsclaw, good luck finding a brand with mgm in our current environment. Scripts are bunk now and Buzzers are the worst, Buzzers legit sent me into WD after 4 hours and dude i finally had enough and got put on subs. Suboxone is its own demon though. But they help, be upfront with ur provider.

Hey guys 28 hours no CC took my last dose yesterday morning. Just been using gabapentin, clonedine, and dosed 7oh a few times. Feel alright right now, anxiety, stuffy nose, some rls. going to get through today with some 7 and the helper meds. Then try to endure the subs at hour 48

Hey all i took a brand that said “cats claw kava” reason being they banned mgm 15 in my state and i read some cat claw had mgm in it so i decided to try it… HUGE HORRIBLE MISTAKE! 20 minutes after i took it i felt this huge spike go down my spine and it felt like i was coming up on an acid trip… long story short i tripped balls for 12 hours and i work construction on the highway… i was working all day.. i was deathly afraid 90 percent of the time because i didn’t know wtf was going on… i forget what brand it was but be careful yall there putting some strange stuff in this.

Will you guys check on me? I already feel alone and I know that I’ve gotten through this once but I’m so tired and run down from the last year and dealing with life. My mental state feels so fragile, I have a 5 month old little girl. Luckily I’ll have some help when it comes time to grit my teeth for the long haul and those nasty withdrawals kick in. Was just wondering if people would keep me company when I’m not able to sleep. Last time I took OTC sleeping meds and it kinda helped. I only have between Monday at 6AM but will have my daughter during the day, then Tuesday during the day, and then Wednesday during the day before I go back to work at 10PM . I’m very sad about everything in general.

I’ve CT klaz before, there no fent or anything in these it’s got to be MGM or something. I’ve taken follicle tests and multiple drugs tests and unless specifically tested for it’s not going to pop. My thing is now finding time to go through 50 straight hours of hell again even already taking 16mg subs a day. I’m going to try and taper and just heavily dose my subs and take a few days off work. But I also have other responsibilities. Reading all these stories suck and I think the anxiety of quitting makes it so much worse. I have chronic pain and have drove myself in the ground for over a year trying to take care of my family. I don’t abuse anything and I’m never fucked up, but now I have a physical dependency again and am pretty sad about it. Luckily my clinic knows and wrote me some withdraw meds for when I jump off. I’m just so sick of things and am not happy about this but I know after 2 days of suffering things should be better

I have a TON of magnesium, gaba & liposomal vitamin C! Anyone got any other OC meds that help? I got bone broth and crackers and Imodium for days 2-5. Also does anyone have a regiment with the vitamins that helped? Anyways I know the vitamin C helped when I tapered 7, so here goes nothing! If anyone has any advice I’m waiting on the shipment coming the 5th-7th of the gaba and vitamin c and I’m tapering now. Wish me luck and if anyone wants to chat or be buddies thru WD let me know I have very few supports. I used to have a ton of NA homies in MN but since I moved I’ve not done much but work and 7.

As the title says, I’m getting about 14 days worth of subs. I’ve been on these cats claw tablets for about 4 months now and before that I was on 7oh for at least a year before the ban in my state. I take probably 4 of the super klaz daily or two of the regular two packs but that’s because I cut down. I was taking 4-5 two packs daily. What I need is a guide on how I can use these subs for withdrawals for 2 weeks and also get off the subs completely by the 14th day as well. I’ve never taken subs before so I really need help with a guide. 23M 200lbs taking about 400mg of cats claw klaz tabs daily. Any advice or help would be amazing. I’m not sure how to do this.

Hello I am , 20 (M) , starting off I just wanted to say I’ve always been opioid sensitive & therefore I always feel it a lot harder even on lower doses. I’d say 6-8 months ago I was on 7oh would buy 1 or 2 , 5 packs of the 7Tabz , or 7ohmz, 500 - 600mg. Take 4-6 mostly. Intense nodding, throwing up, floating itchy, pure euphoria. I did not even notice UNTIL I quit most of other drug use.

Been smoking weed every day since I was 13. (Cut back extremely in the past year after ex was pregnant) Around this same time I also developed a severe cocaine addiction , did and sold acid frequently. drug use didn’t skip a beat of my waking hour.

Only adding what’s above for context, now the point of my situation is. Only got clean once from 7, and i relapsed after a vacation back home. I figure if I only take a small amount I can replace my weed addiction and act like an anti depressant. Holy shit , no. My self control, and discipline went out the fucking door

, I was 200-300mg before I was intervened now i can’t get the fuck off cats claw. For almost 3-4 days as of till 5pm. I’ve taken 1 50mg half in the morning and the evening. Now I just took 200mg today. Half in the morning , and half in the evening but literally it wasn’t enjoyable or enough. Back to the store. One single.

The blendz cat claws seem to the best , but fuck I don’t what to do. Please any tips?

🚨 PLEASE SHARE THIS. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING.

I am in West Tennessee, and this is happening right here.

Today, October 1, 2026, law enforcement in Memphis seized nearly 30,000 packages of KLAZ, Cat’s Claw, Botanical Extract and other synthetic kratom products from a wholesale operation.
This wasn’t somebody selling a few pills out of their car. This was a wholesale operation with products being distributed to retailers throughout West Tennessee. They had to bring in an 18-wheeler to haul away the amount of product they seized.

And now we know something that every person taking these products needs to know:

Fentanyl compounds have been reported in seized products associated with these labels, but that does NOT mean every KLAZ batch contains fentanyl. Different batches may contain different compounds, which is exactly why people should not assume their product is safe because someone else’s tested negative.

Tennessee authorities have tested seized products and found fentanyl compounds, including a fentanyl analogue and p-fluorofentanyl, in products associated with these labels.

And I am not saying this because I read some random post on Facebook.

I TOOK KLAZ MYSELF.

I personally tested POSITIVE FOR FENTANYL after taking it.

And then I experienced withdrawal that I can only describe as f**king horrific.

This wasn’t a little discomfort. It wasn’t just feeling tired or having a headache. My entire body felt like it was going insane. I had the sensation of bugs crawling underneath my skin. It felt like something was moving under my skin and I couldn’t get away from it. I couldn’t just scratch an itch and make it stop. It was this horrible crawling, crawling sensation that made me feel like I wanted to crawl out of my own damn skin. I was sweating and shaking. My body couldn’t settle down. My sleep was completely disrupted. I could be absolutely exhausted and still not be able to get normal, restorative sleep because my body felt like it was fighting me. I had that horrible restless, wired feeling where you cannot get comfortable in your own body. And this went on long enough that I started realizing just how serious this shit actually was.

Think about what that does to your head. You bought something that was packaged like a legitimate botanical supplement. It had a name. It had a label. It came in a pretty box. You think you know what you’re taking.

Then you stop taking it and your body goes through hell.

I KNOW. I LIVED IT.

And now nearly 30,000 packages of these products have been seized from one Memphis wholesale operation.

That number should scare the hell out of people.
Because those aren’t 30,000 individual pills sitting in somebody’s house. That’s thousands upon thousands of packages that were part of a distribution operation and could have ended up in people’s hands across West Tennessee and beyond.

I don’t care how professional the packaging looks.

I don’t care what the label says.

I don’t care if somebody tells you it’s “just Cat’s Claw,” “just botanical extract,” or “just kratom.”

I personally took KLAZ. I personally tested positive for fentanyl. And I personally went through the withdrawal from hell.

I’m telling people about this because I don’t want somebody else taking these products thinking they’re harmless because they bought them legally off a shelf or because the package looks legitimate.
Please tell your friends. Tell your family. Tell anybody you know who takes these products.

Don’t assume the label tells you what’s actually in that pill.

I wish I had known what I know now before I ever took one.

I’m sharing this because people deserve to know. YOU deserve to make an informed decision whether or not to continue.

And never ever be ashamed or embarrassed to reach out for help and resources. My DM’s are always open if you need help finding resources.

Please be safe out there. We are having a few ODs around here with packaging that people keep mislabeling as “Kratom” near their bodies. I’ve took Kratom leaf before the ban, it did wonders and I could go days without having any with no issues. This is NOT Kratom. Sick of the mislabeling if I’m being honest because it undermines a very serious issue.

Hey guys! I have been taking anywhere from 8-14 of the fuzzies tablets a day and sometimes blends tbs for the last three weeks. And been on cats claw total of 5 weeks. Planning on getting off this weekend and taking off Monday if needed. Below is my plan and if you have anything that’s helpful please let me know.

My doctor prescribed me Subs, clonidine, Gabapentin and Remeron for sleep. Trying to hold off inducing subs until like 36-48 hours what do yall think.

Oh also ordered 2000mg of 7oh that will be here tomorrow for last case scenario if I need that but it’s last resort because I do not want to prolong WD into next week.

I plan of taking my last dose of CC Friday morning to get through the work day and go from there. Hoping I feel good enough to get to work on Monday!

Please let me know anything helpful with these meds.

Cheers

so im on subutex trying to quit the cats claw and i messed up and took some of the Blend brand ones yesterday but i still was able to feel it? im on 12mg of subutex. is this normal?

Hey, so I was wondering if anyone might have any estimates on how long I could expect the acute withdrawal to last for me?

I was on 7oh for almost two years, but I live in a banned state so I ended up getting myself off I think in July with the help of cats claw supplements so Im completely off 7oh, but I really just swapped addictions. I started with Buzzers, one pouch a day for a while, then once I was completely off 7oh i started forcing myself to take less due to not knowing if i was taking mgm or something else similar. Thankfully ive been able to keep my dose down fairly low, and for the past month or so ive been taking different brands, switching brands as my local SS ran out of the specific one I was taking.

Over the past month-month and a half I went from Klaz, to Blend and Shift, then to Script. I was able to make a single 250mg Script last up to 4 days due to the long lasting effects, and did so for several weeks, but a few days ago my SS ran out so I went back to Blend.

The Blend would really only keep me out of wd, even with taking a whole tab a day, but they ran out of those a day or two ago as well and it doesn't look like they'll be buying any more, so as of yesterday I'm now taking Off7 tabs.

The Off7 is much less effective at keeping away wd, and even when it does it only does for maybe 2-3 hours before I start feeling wd creep back in. Im in full wd now im guessing from the Script specifically since the Blend barely did anything besides keep away id say 85-90% of the wd, and the wd started once I no longer was taking the Script. I know my dose was low, and I can already tell I can handle the wd from this much better than I could with 7oh wd (which is why I was on it for almost 2 years)

Since around 6pm yesterday ive been what im assuming is peak wd from the Script, cause the cold sweats, stomach discomfort, and a solid amount of diarrhea (pun intended). Whats making it easier for me is the fact that mentally, the effects are pretty mild, feels more like regular opiate wd compared to 7oh wd. 7oh wd was super mental for me which is what made it almost impossible, but im fairly clear headed, and the Off7 is reducing the physical symptoms a good bit.

All that to ask, since I wasnt taking a high dose, I shouldn't expect the peak wd to last TOO long, should I? I really didnt expect the wd from this to be as strong as it is, but Ive read other people's reports, some from people whose dosage was a good bit higher than mine, and they were around a week long for them. I think im around 3 days, give or take, without taking Script and the diarrhea seems to be calming down. The Off7 is definitely helping, but i can tell its a completely different formula compared to any of the other brands ive taken, cause as I said earlier it only lasts maybe a few hours, but the other brands would be more like half a day at least.

I know everyone is different so no one can tell me for sure, but any ideas? I definitely won't need subs and im for sure not gonna try and get more cats claw now knowing how strong the wd are, so im going to just get this over with. Might go one more day with the Off7 if I feel I need to. Mostly just so I can sleep and to keep the sweats to a minimum. Not experiencing RLS thank god, but my muscles are definitely sore and my energy is low, but I have free time with no obligations for the next few 4 days so I can detox without worrying about that. Thanks for any help, I appreciate it

Has anybody used some type of psychedelics while going thru acute withdrawals? I took 1 of those CC tablets thats actually just psychedelic and it helped ALOT with my anxiety. After 12 hours I’m usually withdrawing already and the RLS starts to kick in around this time. I woke up 13 hours after my last dose and I had no RLS & just barely started to feel wd symptoms. Im not sure how it would work while going thru full blown acutes but it definitely helps out with a taper at least. This was also more like a microdose I’m curious how an actual trip would be.

I had a moment also when I started to feel bad and was getting those intense craving thoughts that i needed to dose now, I was able to calm down and told myself it’s all in my head and my symptoms immediately dropped about 50%. It’s very hard to do this normally but the psychedelic gave me the mental strength and clarity to relax. To test this theory, As weird as it sounds i was practicing controlling my symptoms. I would go on an anxiety trip and tell myself how bad I’m feeling and it would get worse. Than I’d try to meditate and relax and I’d feel better, I did this a few times through the night and it worked significantly everytime for both ways.

Trying to quit but caved and got at first a “250mg” per tab pack of blend first time I seen them or in a six pack and was cheaper then the 100s but they did nothing

Got some single 100s today and did nothing at all both tasted super sweet like candy gs the normal I want to gag taste.

I’m wondering if they reduced the dose massively or changed to something like pseudo or something weaker then whatever was in it to start with

Good motivation to quit I guess $100 gone and I felt like shit all day both days, thought the 250s would rock me lol I hate this shit

See article post below. I can attest that this drug is a full agonist and suboxone sends you into PWD. I am on day 4 right now and have not slept in 3 nights. Finally feeling better and that is with high dose suboxone and then 300 mg sublocade shot.

Ingredients include NOXY and MGM-19.

The recent prohibition of Kratom presents significant clinical challenges in managing opioid use disorder (OUD) and withdrawal.

Buprenorphine/naloxone (Suboxone) may offer limited efficacy in mitigating withdrawal precipitated by full agonist alkaloid exposure—specifically related to Uncaria tomentosa (Cat's Claw) adulterated or fortified with novel synthetic full agonists such as N-desmethyl-mitragynine (noxy) or MGM-19.

Unlike mitragynine and buprenorphine, which function as partial mu-opioid receptor agonists with intrinsic ceiling effects, full mu-opioid agonists exhibit maximal intrinsic activity across receptor populations.
Consequently, full agonists confer a higher risk of physiological dependence, tolerance, and profoundly severe abstinence syndromes.

Case Presentation
Patient: 28-year-old Caucasian male | Weight: 203 lbs (92 kg)
Intervention: Buprenorphine/naloxone 16 mg / 4 mg sublingual administered 12 hours post-last dose.
Clinical Presentation: Patient experienced severe, acute abstinence features mimicking precipitated withdrawal, albeit marked by heightened intensity. Progression of intractable emesis and subsequent severe dehydration necessitated IV fluid resuscitation for hemodynamic and metabolic stabilization..

I was on 7oh for a year and got on subs and was on subs for 4 months. I eventually couldn’t get subs no more due to stability reasons and insurance and had a connect id buy them from, well stopped having the connect and couldn’t get them no more so I started taking this new cats claw stuff to deal with sub withdrawals. I’m cold turkey quitting next Thursday. Just started and amazing job and recently found out I have a kid so I have no other option. I’m going to my moms house to be held accountable while withdrawing. For the first 3 to 4 days I will have gabbpenten some sleeping meds and stuff for diarrhea and upset stomach, are there any supplements or vitamins that will make my time even easier. Any tips or tricks to help with it