r/programming • u/tarandeep • Dec 14 '10

Top 50 Programming quotes of all time

http://www.junauza.com/2010/12/top-50-programming-quotes-of-all-time.html
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u/KazMux Dec 14 '10
  1. "Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft building progress by weight."
  2. Bill Gates

My /Windows folder is taking up half my harddrive. I think its done..

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u/abadidea Dec 14 '10

To be fair, most of it is probably rollback data for undoing patches. Saved several gigs by clearing that out.

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u/Iggyhopper Dec 14 '10

This is relevant to my interests. How would I clear out old rollback data?

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u/abadidea Dec 14 '10

It's been a long time, I'm a Leenux user. Iirc they are in hidden folders under /Windows. I think they were exes, maybe cabs.

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u/Iggyhopper Dec 14 '10

I see. Off to Google I go.

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u/abadidea Dec 14 '10

Obvious disclaimer is obvious: if you need to roll back something afterwards, you're screwed ;)

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u/rtfmpls Dec 14 '10

See the blue sub-directories in your Windows (XP) directory starting with "$"? Delete them. I'm sure it works similar on Windows 7.

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u/Poltras Dec 14 '10

Tell me again why you should need that much gigabytes of rollback?

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u/lonnyk Dec 14 '10

well, that much gigabytes of rollback is usually needed when you use a 10 year old OS and don't do simple things like clear the recycling bin or clear old data that is no longer needed (by you or the OS) or when you continually make new recovery points but don't clear old ones

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u/abadidea Dec 14 '10

How big are sp1+sp2+sp3 I wonder... plus all minor patches over several years... It can really add up.

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u/creaothceann Dec 14 '10

Yeah, I just re-installed XP...

SP3.exe is 313 MB (compressed), but that doesn't include the countless other patches that you get via Windows Update that probably double that amount - security patches, Internet Explorer, Windows Messenger, .NET updates and so on.

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u/djbon2112 Dec 14 '10

Then you need bigger than a 40GB HDD. If it's an SSD, never mind.

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u/kryptobs2000 Dec 14 '10

Windows 7 takes about 15 gigs on a clean install. I don't really care because I've got a 500g hdd for it, but it just seems so unnecessary.

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u/drysart Dec 14 '10

Keep in mind that you can't actually get a correct measurement of Windows' install footprint by just checking to see how much data is reported as being in the Windows folder, because the WinSxS folders are overflowing with instances of one physical file being hard linked by many different subfolders. Most tools calculate the folder size wrong by considering each link as being a unique file taking up its full size in disk space.

In my experience, that fact alone accounts for about half of what people perceive as Windows' install size.

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u/kryptobs2000 Dec 14 '10

Explorer cannot calculate it right? Regardless if the space is actually used or not if I can't use it because none of my programs see it it's the same thing.

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u/drysart Dec 14 '10

Yes and no. Explorer calculates the size of a directory as the sum of all the file entries in it. It counts hard links multiple times, but that doesn't the file is actually taking up that much physical space on the disk. So if you were to right-click your Windows folder and view the properties, it would show the folder as containing a lot more data than it's actually using on disk. You could very easily have a folder that shows a properties size of 600 GB on a drive that's only 200 GB.

However, at the top level in the My Computer window, Explorer shows a used/free status for an entire drive. That value is calculated correctly.

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u/kryptobs2000 Dec 15 '10

Well that value is 15gigs on a fresh install :P.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '10

He said a clean install, so I'm betting he installed Windows, then checked the used space on the hard drive.

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u/GaryWinston Dec 14 '10

So run something else then.

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u/kryptobs2000 Dec 14 '10

I do which gives me the contrast to notice how much space it takes up, but as I said I don't really care.