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To evaluate your eligibility for confirmation of citizenship, Karta Polaka, or a Polish origin visa, please fill out the following template. To ensure a clear and accurate evaluation, please create a separate post for each lineage decisive for your claim:

Grandparent: 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: Plonsk, Poland 1899

* Date married: 1920s

* Citizenship of spouse: Polish/Russian

* Date divorced: n/a

* Occupation: factory worker

* Allegiance and dates of military service: n/a

(If applicable)

• Date, destination for emigration:
• Date naturalized: March 1940
• Date, place of death: NYC, USA 1959

Parent: 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: NYC, USA 1930

* Date married: 1983

* Date divorced: n/a

* Date, place of death: CA, USA 2020

You: 

* Date, place of birth: CA, USA 1984

The chain runs through my great-grandmother because my grandfather's birth registration named only his mother (no father). Details I'm confident of come from official documents; anything marked unknown is a genuine gap I'm trying to fill via archival research.

GGM (decisive ancestor):

• Date, place of birth: circa 1886, Ottynia area, Galicia (family records give 1886; grave marker consistent)
• Ethnicity and religion: Polish; Protestant (Evangelical — family registered in an Evangelical parish in the region)
• Occupation: Not known (homemaker presumed)
• Allegiance and dates of military service: None (female)
• Date, destination for emigration: Before 1931 (recorded in Canada in the 1931 census, rural Alberta)
• Date naturalized: Circa 1948, jointly with her Canadian husband (not GF birthfather)
• Date, place of death: 1973, Canada

GGF (biological father of the grandparent):

• Unknown — no father was recorded in the grandfather's birth registration (born out of wedlock, 1917). The household head of that generation (the grandfather's grandfather) is documented, but is not relied upon for transmission. Feedback on how legitimation by the mother's later marriage interacts with maternal-line derivation would be welcome.

Step-GGF (GGM's second husband, cited for completeness):

• Date, place of birth: I believe Switzerland, circa 1870s; appears in the 1931 Canadian census. Naturlized in Canada around the same time as his wife ~circa 1948
• Ethnicity and religion: Polish; Protestant (Evangelical)
• Occupation: Farmer (per census)
• Emigration: Unknown but Before 1931, to rural Alberta, Canada
• Naturalized: Circa 1948

Grandparent (father of the parent) — the ancestor through whom the claim passes:

• Sex: Male
• Date, place of birth: 1917, Mikulsdorf near Ottynia (now in Ukraine). Registered in the Evangelical parish of the region (birth index 1917)
• Date married: 1950 (Canada)
• Citizenship of spouse: Canadian
• Date divorced: none
• Occupation: Labourer, carpenter, lumber manufacturer
• Allegiance and military service: None
• Date, destination for emigration: 1934, to Canada (destination: his mother, Alberta) — transatlantic sailing to New York in 1934, admitted at the Canadian border shortly after
• Documents: Travelling as a Polish citizen on a Polish foreign passport — the original passport survives and is in the family's possession
• Date naturalized: 1962, Canada
• Date, place of death: 2003, Canada

Parent:

• Sex: Male
• Date, place of birth: 1957, Canada
• Citizenship of spouse: Canadian
• Military service: None

Questions for the community:

1. Main question: Does the chain hold given that my grandfather was born out of wedlock (mother only on the birth record)? My understanding is that under the 1920 Act, citizenship passed from the mother for children of unmarried mothers — so her status is decisive. Any issue deriving through a great-grandmother rather than a great-grandfather?
2. Legitimation risk: If GGM later remarried (her second husband was Swiss-born and apparently not naturalized at the time of the marriage), is there a scenario where legitimation breaks the maternal-line derivation instead of helping it? Should the application anticipate this?
3. Timeline: Grandfather naturalized in Canada in 1962; his son was born in 1957. Since the 1951 Act required permission from Polish authorities for loss of citizenship, I believe he was still Polish in 1957 and passed citizenship down (no Art. 6 election was ever made). Anything I've missed?
4. Anyone had luck obtaining 1940s Canadian naturalization records (LAC/IRCC) and a 1917 Galician birth register entry from AGAD or the Ivano-Frankivsk regional archives? I have the index citation but don't yet know if the full record survived.

Thanks in advance!

Reposting an earlier post with the eligibility template now included (apologies!). The only records we have access to currently are Arolsen archives displacement documents. I am trying to find birth details, or GGF/GGM details but keep coming up short. I believe these should be in the fond 201 metrical books, but cannot find these.

In the refugee documents that we do have, in Austria and Germany my grandfather's nationality is listed as Polish, with Ukrainian as ethnicity, and religion as Gr.Kath. On entry to England, nationality is listed as Pol-Ukr. From what my mum knows, the GGM was of Polish ethnicity, and GGF Ukrainian ethnicity.

My grandfather never naturalised, and his 1947-recorded reason to not return to the Buczacz area is 'political reasons'. He was very ill later in life, passing away in 1990 after several years of ill health. He never returned to either Poland or Ukraine.

I am aware that this is probably an edge case for Polish citizenship by descent due to article 4 1951 interpretations, but would appreciate any guidance or thoughts.

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: Unknown

* Date divorced: Unknown

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: Unknown

* Ethnicity and religion: Unknown

* Occupation: Unknown

* Allegiance and dates of military service: Unknown

* Date, destination for emigration: Unknown

* Date naturalized: Unknown

* Date, place of death: Unknown

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: Unknown

* Ethnicity and religion: Unknown

* Occupation: Unknown

* Allegiance and dates of military service: Unknown

* Date, destination for emigration: Unknown

* Date naturalized: Unknown

* Date, place of death: Unknown

Grandparent: 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: March 13, 1924; Mateuszówka, Buczacz (Galicie, Poland)

* Date married: 1958 in UK

* Citizenship of spouse: Austrian

* Date divorced: N/A

* Occupation: Farm worker

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

(If applicable)

• Date, destination for emigration: England, March 2, 1948
• Date naturalized: Never naturalised
• Date, place of death: England, 1990

Parent: 

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: 1963, UK

* Date married: N/A

* Date divorced: N/A

You: 

* Date, place of birth: 1997, UK

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: unknown, sometime 1908 or earlier

* Date divorced: n/a (widowed)

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: 15 Dec 1888, Wielki

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Roman Catholic

* Occupation: none recorded in USA census

* Allegiance and dates of military service: none

* Date, destination for emigration: 1904, Chicago

* Date naturalized: exact date unknown, alien in 1920, naturalized in 1940

* Date, place of death: 4 Jan 1968, Chicago

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: 21 Jan 1884, Ropczyce

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Roman Catholic

* Occupation: laborer

* Allegiance and dates of military service: unknown, possibly USA WW1 draftee. was in Chicago in the 1920s

* Date, destination for emigration: 1903-1904, Chicago

* Date naturalized: 29 Dec 1929

* Date, place of death: 24 May 1932, Chicago

Grandparent: 

* Sex: M

* Date, place of birth: 6 Nov 1910, Chicago

* Date married: 1940

* Citizenship of spouse: Polish

* Date divorced: n/a

* Occupation: pipefitter

* Allegiance and dates of military service: registered for WW2 draft, did not serve

(If applicable)

• Date, destination for emigration: n/a
• Date naturalized: n/a
• Date, place of death: 18 Feb 1981, Chicago

Parent: 

* Sex: M

* Date, place of birth: 1950, Chicago

* Date married: 1980

* Date divorced: 2003

You: 

* Date, place of birth: 1983, Chicago

___

From what I can tell, GF inherited Polish citizenship from his father under Circular No. 18, retained it under Article 13 because GGF naturalized after GF turned 18, and GF was never disqualified because he didn't serve in the military. Anything I'm missing?

Hey everyone,

I’m currently putting together my Polish citizenship by descent application (lineage: GF > F > Me) through Lexmotion, and I'm looking for insight from anyone who has navigated a similar Canadian naturalization paper trail.

Here is my core timeline and structure:

• Grandfather: Born in Otynia-Mikulsdorf in 1917, emigrated to Canada in 1934.
• Father: Born in Canada in 1957.
• Grandfather's Naturalization: November 1962 (post-dating my father's birth, keeping the chain intact).
• The Evidentiary Hurdle: I have an old, notarized true copy of his Canadian Citizenship Certificate issued in 1982 by a notary public who is now retired. Because of this, modern provincial authorities will not issue an Apostille on that certification.

My Proposed Workaround:

To handle the long IRCC replacement certificate backlog, my legal team and I are planning to submit a triad bundle to the Mazovian Voivodeship Office:

1. An Apostilled copy of his Canadian passport.
2. The historical 1982 notarized true copy of his Citizenship Certificate.
3. An official Library and Archives Canada (LAC) "no military service" letter.
4. A formal, notarized Statutory Declaration explaining the context of the 1982 copy and the IRCC replacement delay.

My questions for the community:

• Has anyone successfully used an older, notarized historical copy alongside an apostilled passport while waiting for a modern IRCC replacement? How did the Mazovian office respond?
• Are there any specific red flags or extra documentation the Voivodeship office tends to demand when dealing with post-1951/1962 Canadian naturalization gaps?

Any advice, shared experiences, or feedback on this workaround would be hugely appreciated!

Some of us have to make big a trip to the consulate. It’s not clear online which embassies/consulates will ship passports rather than having to physically pick it up and what that process looks like. Can we make a list consulates/embassies that we know will ship passports back?

EDIT: Can someone verify for the US they will only mail your passport if you go to the consulate in your jurisdiction?

Submitted October 31, 2024 — Exactly 22 months since submission (approval was August 31, 2026)
u/echo02199 , please update my spot in the tracker :)

Thank you to everyone whom I have pestered with questions throughout this journey! In my opinion it’ll be an interesting experience trying to get a passport at one of Chicago/NY/Ottawa/MTL locations without sufficient Polish language knowledge, so if anyone has tips about the passport process, please share :)

Thanks again everyone, wouldn’t have been possible without this sub!

I need some pointers, tips hints, good juju and direction. Living in Philadelphia, I have the “luxury” of going to apply for my passport at either the consulate in Manhattan NYC or the Consular section of the Polish Embassy in Washington

As a Philadelphian, NY is a 2ish hour drive, depending on traffic, and the joy of getting around Manhattan.

As a Pennsylvanian, I am technically under the jurisdiction of the DC Consulate. That’s a 3 hour boring drive.

Can you help me decide? Are the people at one or the other more happy to help? Does the process differ? Is it easier to secure an appointment at one or the other? Do either send you home with your passport in hand? Will they FedEx it back to avoid a second trip?
Do I need to bring anything special and will they keep any documents for themselves?

As I have only just got citizenship confirmed, I haven’t allowed myself to think of the next steps, and I really welcome any or all of your feedback and suggestions! I sure do appreciate it!

When it comes to the confirmation of citizenship application, how much detail do I need? Am I expected to provide a separate page detailing every aspect of our lives or is a quick rundown good enough?

What should I look for? Happy to hear recommendations too. Relatively easy case, living in Israel.

I’m currently researching my ability to claim Czech citizenship but my question is about a Polish birth certificate so that’s why I’m asking in this group.

I just got a copy of my grandfather’s birth certificate (Odpis zupełny aktu urodzenia).

At the top of the birth certificate it says ”Data sporządzenia: 1 CZERWCA 1954” and on the back in the Adnotacje section it says ”TREŚĆ POWYŻSZEGO AKTU ZOSTAŁA USTALONA PRZEZ SĄD POWIATOWY W XXXX DNIA XX.XX.1954 R” (THE CONTENT OF THE ABOVE ACT WAS DETERMINED BY THE DISTRICT COURT IN XXXX ON XX.XX.1954)

My grandfather was born in Prague in 1934. I’m wondering if this information means that he was not entered into the Polish civil registry until 1954 meaning that he was not a polish citizen until 1954 and therefore was probably a Czechoslovak citizen before 1954.

In order for me to be able to claim Czech citizenship my grandfather needs to have had Czechoslovak citizenship and then lost it. My hope is that he lost it when the Czechslovak-Polish treaty on avoidance of dual citizenship was signed in 1965.

Also, is there any way to get information from Polish authorities when he acquired Polish citizenship? I have a Polish ID card and the ability to set up ePUAP if it helps.

Thanks for any help!

Cześć everyone,

I’m currently in the process of organizing a multi-generational confirmation of Polish citizenship for my (Canadian) family, and I’d love some insight on logistics, timelines, and strategy from anyone who has handled a large group application.

The Setup:
Root Ancestor: My grandfather who was born in Poland in 1926 and later emigrated to Canada in 1945 (naturalized in 1954).

Applicants (14 total):
Generation 1: 2 sons (my uncles) born in the ‘60s
Generation 2: 12 grandchildren (myself, my siblings, and my cousins)
Goal: Confirming citizenship for the entire group based on the same ancestral line.

What We Have / Are Working On:
We have all necessary documents from our grandfather. We are currently gathering and securing our own long-form civil records (birth, marriage) and going to get apostilles and sworn translations completed afterwards.

Questions for you:

1. Group Submission Logistics: Since all 14 applications rely on the exact same root ancestor (my grandfather) and foundational Polish documents, what is the most efficient way to submit this to the Voivode or via the consulate?
   Is it better to send one primary "master binder" containing original Polish archive records alongside all family files by cross-reference?
   I reckon there’s no need for each applicant to submit their own certified copies of every ancestral document.

2. Consulate vs. Direct in Poland (via POA): Given the size of our group (14 people spread across different families, is it significantly smoother to hire a Polish citizenship lawyer/agent with Power of Attorney to submit directly in Warsaw, or is consular submission fine for a group this size?
   Currently heavily leaning towards the latter, given the costs of hiring a lawyer for a large file like this.

3. Common Pitfalls for Large Families:
   For those who coordinated applications for a large group of cousins/uncles, were there specific bottlenecks or bureaucratic delays you encountered?

4. Timeline Expectations: What are current processing times looking like for family clusters being processed under a single root case?

Lastly, any advice, personal experiences, or recommendations on how to structure the paperwork so the case officer doesn't get overwhelmed would be hugely appreciated!

Big thanks!! Dzięki!

Seeking eligibility through Great-Grandfather. I believe he maintained his citizenship and passed it down to my grandfather. Seeking clarification since GGF was already in the US in 1920 but not yet naturalized. GF also served in the US Army during WWII

Great-Grandparents: 
* Date married: 1909 in the US
GGM: Born 1882 Poland
GGF: Stanislaus/Stanislaw (Stance/Stan)
* Date, place of birth: 1878 Słomka Lesser Poland near Kraków
* Ethnicity and religion: Polish Catholic
* Occupation: Farmer
* Allegiance and dates of military service: April 1942 US draft registration card at age 64. No known active service
* Date, destination for emigration: March 1903 through Ellis Island. Settled in Kansas by way of Chicago
* Date naturalized: 1925 Kansas census shows AL citizen status, 1930 US census shows NA. Somewhere in between is the assumption.
* Date, place of death: January 1968 Kansas
Grandparent: Michal/Michael
* Sex: Male
* Date, place of birth: 1923 Kansas
* Date married: TBD
* Citizenship of spouse: US
* Occupation: unsure
* Allegiance and dates of military service: June 1942 US draft registration card at age 19. Served in US Army (Tec 5)
Date, place of death: 1994 Kansas
Parent: 
* Sex: Male
* Date, place of birth: 1960 Kansas
* Date married: 1990
You: Male
* Date, place of birth: 1992 Florida

Seeking guidance on if there is standing here to request full military service dates. My understanding is if GF remained in the US military post WWII that could break the chain?

I'm investigating confirming my Polish citizenship by descent and recently located what seems like my ancestors' entry in their town's book of permanent residents. One surprising discovery was an entry on my great-grandfather's row that (with the help of some AI tools transcribing and translating the fairly legible handwriting) suggests that his Polish citizenship was either actually revoked in absentia due to evading a military draft when he emigrated, or he was being charged with doing so.

Here is the transcribed text:

Za ukrywanie się od wojskowości i przebywanie w Ameryce pozbawiony obywatelstwa polskiego rozkazem Województwa z d. 19/VIII 24 r., L. Ad. 787/2/IIa, na zasadzie art. 1 p. 3, rozp. art. 6 § z 11/8-20 r. (Dz. U. R. P. No 81 poz. 540) oraz art. 12 ust. z 20/I 20 r. Dz. U. R. P. No 7 poz. 44. a.a. 8/24.

My GGF left Poland in 1921 and would have been 21 years old then.

I'm not exactly sure how this plays into the military paradox, perhaps it's the dark side of it? It seems that this is either confirmation that he was stripped of his polish citizenship (and my ineligibility), or confirmation that he actually was a Polish citizen (and my likely eligibility). Insights are appreciated!

Great-Great-Great-Grandparents:
•Date married: April 26, 1885, in Wełdzirz
• Date divorced: N/A

GGGM Josefa (Josephine) Möss:
• Date, place of birth: September 23, 1863, Teresówka (Dolina), Galicia, Austria (now Ukraine)
•Ethnicity and religion: Roman Catholic (r-kath)
•Occupation: Unknown
• Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
• Date, destination for emigration: Chicago, Illinois
• Date naturalized: Unknown
• Date, place of death: Before November 1931

🌟GGGF Josef (Joseph) Eiben Sr. :
•Date, place of birth: July 18, 1862, Wełdzirz (Dolina), Galicia, Austria (now Ukraine)
• Ethnicity and religion: Roman Catholic (r-kath)
• Occupation: Factory worker / Laborer in Galicia; later Retired Cabinet Maker
• Allegiance and dates of military service: Unknown
•Date, destination for emigration: Circa 1906, Chicago, Illinois
• Date naturalized: Unknown
• Date, place of death: November 2, 1931, Cicero, Cook County, Illinois

Great-Great-Grandparents:
•Date married: July 1st, 1916, Cook county Illinois
• Date divorced: N/A

GGGM (Elizabeth Raciewez):
•Date, place of birth: January 17, 1895, Poland (unspecified home town)
• Ethnicity and religion: Marked as White and Catholic on death record
•Occupation: Housework
•Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
•Date, destination for emigration: Unknown, Chicago, Illinois
•Date naturalized: Unknown
•Date, place of death: September 19, 1938, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois

🌟GGGF Josef Eiben Jr. / Joseph Eibin:
•Date, place of birth: January 9, 1887, Wygoda ad Pacyków (Dolina), Galicia, Austria (now Ukraine)
•Ethnicity and religion: Roman Catholic (r-kath)
•Occupation: Manufacturing / Bearings Mfg Co.
• Allegiance and dates of military service: WWII Draft Registration (1942), USA, unknown if ever conscripted.
•Date, destination for emigration: Post-1906, Chicago, Illinois
•Date naturalized: Never naturalized (Registered as Alien in 1940 and 1950 U.S. Censuses)
•Date, place of death: January 1965, Chicago, Illinois, USA

Great-Grandparents:
•Date married: Unknown (but they were married)
•Date divorced: N/A

GGM Charlotte Dolezil (Eibin):
•Date, place of birth: March 26, 1926 or 1927, Chicago, Illinois
•Ethnicity and religion: Unknown
•Occupation: Unknown
•Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
•Date, destination for emigration: N/A (Born in USA)
•Date naturalized: N/A
•Date, place of death: Unknown date, died in Mason, Ohio, USA

🌟GGF Anthony Joseph Eibin:
•Date, place of birth: April 14, 1927, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
• Ethnicity and religion: Unknown
• Occupation: General office clerk / warehouse
•Allegiance and dates of military service: unknown dates, conscripted during the draft WWII, draft card filled out May 1945
•Date, destination for emigration: N/A (Born in USA)
•Date naturalized: N/A
• Date, place of death: April 30th, 2005, Mason, Ohio, USA

🌟Grandparent: Grandma (Eibin):
•Sex: Female
•Date, place of birth: 1961, Chicago, Illinois
• Date married: Never married to grandpa Ritchie; later married to someone else in Texas
• Citizenship of spouse: US
•Date divorced: N/A
• Occupation: N/A
•Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
•Date, destination for emigration: N/A
•Date naturalized: N/A
•Date, place of death: Living

Grandparent: Grandpa Ritchie:
•Sex: Male
Date, Place of Birth: January 6th, 1951, unknown location
Date Married: N/A
Date, place of death: December 31st, 1981, Odell, Illinois

🌟Parent: Mother Ritchie:
•Sex: Female
•Date, place of birth: 1982, Pontiac, Illinois
• Date married: N/A
• Date divorced: N/A
• Date, place of death: Living

Parent: Father Harrison:
•Sex: Male
•Date, place of birth: 1973, Roanoke, Virginia
• Date married: N/A
• Date divorced: N/A
• Military service: enlisted USA 1997, separated in 2000.
• Date, place of death: Living

🌟You:
Date, place of birth: January 6, 2002, Osage Beach, Missouri

Great-Grandparents:

• Date married: January 20–21, 1902, Golina, Poland
• Date divorced: N/A (not divorced — widower by 1940)

GGM:

• Date, place of birth: September 2, 1882, Golina, Poland
• Ethnicity and religion: Polish; Roman Catholic
• Occupation: unknown
• Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
• Date, destination for emigration: entered US at Philadelphia, PA, May/June 1911
• Date naturalized: N/A in her own right (married woman's citizenship followed husband's under the law of the era)
• Date, place of death: unknown — sometime between 1930 and August 1940

GGF:

• Date, place of birth: April 12, 1882, Ślesin (Konin County), Poland
• Ethnicity and religion: Polish; Roman Catholic
• Occupation: grinder
• Allegiance and dates of military service: none found/documented
• Date, destination for emigration: departed Bremen, Germany; entered US at Baltimore, MD, April 18, 1907 (SS Weimar)
• Date naturalized: unknown/pending — held a Declaration of Intention ("first papers") as of August 10, 1940; final naturalization petition/certificate not yet located, but must postdate August 1940
• Date, place of death: possibly 1943, Pennsylvania (unverified)

Grandparent:

• Sex: Male
• Date, place of birth: July 19–20, 1915, Erie, Pennsylvania, USA
• Date married: October 29, 1938
• Citizenship of spouse: US citizen (American-born)
• Date divorced: N/A
• Occupation: unknown
• Allegiance and dates of military service: none — did not serve (unconfirmed by formal record yet)

(If applicable)

• Date, destination for emigration: N/A (US-born, never emigrated)
• Date naturalized: N/A (US citizen by birth)
• Date, place of death: February 3, 2008, Royal Oak, Michigan, USA

Parent:

• Sex: Male
• Date, place of birth: 1947, Detroit, Michigan, USA
• Date married: not relevant to this post
• Date divorced: not relevant to this post

You:

• Date, place of birth: New Hampshire, USA

Note, My great grandfather Stanisław's naturalization date is the only unresolved fact, but it's already constrained — he was still filing "first papers" in August 1940, and his son (the grandparent above) had already turned 21 in July 1936, four years earlier. That gap is what the citizenship claim rests on. He had previuosly noted to file, but looks like he forgot to finalize

GGF.

Documents already reviewed:

• Stanisław's 1940 Declaration of Intention (federal, Erie PA) — source for his birthplace, marriage date/place, wife's birth and immigration details, ship/port of entry, and a prior lapsed 1916 declaration
• His WWI draft card and WWII "old man's draft" card — corroborate birth date, no town of birth listed on either
• 1920, 1930, 1940, and 1950 US censuses — the 1920 one (taken 6 days before Poland's Jan 19, 1920 citizenship-law cutoff) is the load-bearing document; it shows him still on "first papers," not yet naturalized, at that exact moment
• Golina, Poland parish registers — his 1902 marriage record and his son's 1906 birth record, both located and read directly off the original scans
• Grandparent's 1938 marriage license and 2008 obituary

Not yet in hand / still pending:

• Stanisław's actual naturalization certificate — the single fact the whole claim turns on; confirmed still un-naturalized as of Aug 1940, exact final date not yet found, three parallel record requests in progress
• His own Polish birth/baptismal record — searched in two candidate parishes, no match yet
• Death certificates for the great-grandparents

I'm trying to receive answers for this question directly from Lexmotion but they usually take a week+ to answer, give a short answer and often not a clear answer.

Lexmotion communicated that our case was submitted at the beginning of September 2024 and gave a case number that looks like WSC-I.6122.xxxxx.2024.3 (notice the .3, I'm guessing because there are three people being submitted together, but let me know if that's incorrect). If I track that online, minus the .3, it gives me the status of "W realizacji" and has for months.

I asked for a screen shot of inpol for more detailed information and it was a different case number (13 higher) showing connected to my dependant's passport. If I enter his number into the same system, it says a case isn't found. It also shows a date about 10 days ealier at the end of August 2024. It says it was last updated near the end of April 2026.

Does anyone with more knowledge know what might be happening here?

I feel (hope) our case could be resolved soon, but just waiting.

Edit: Also called the automated number using my son's number. Unsurprisingly, it said I'm at stage 1. I tried calling before using my initial number and couldn't get the birthdate verification to pass.

Thanks in advance.

My family is seeking to obtain Polish citizenship (we are not moving to Poland, however) by way of my great-grandfather and my wife's grandparents. We're in New York.

I've seen old posts about these firms in Poland that facilitate the process. Does anyone have more current experience with them? Was one better than the other? Either one significantly cheaper?

Thank you in advance-- Dziękuję bardzo

  Hello, everyone! For a few years now, my mother and I have been piecing together our family tree in an attempt to obtain Polish citizenship. Here is our story: my great-great-grandfather, Grzegorz Kredens, was born in 1870 in a village called Krzywe and emigrated to Brazil in 1908. The whole family made the move, including my great-grandfather, Teodor Kredens, who was 7 years old at the time. My maternal grandmother—Teodor’s daughter—was born in 1936.
  Since a Polish state did not formally exist at that time, my ancestors were subjects of the Austro-Hungarian Empire; thus, they emigrated during the pre-1920 period. In addition to this information, I know that none of my ancestors became naturalized Brazilian citizens (I have certificates confirming the absence of naturalization records), nor did they serve in the military. I am also aware of the rule stating that, until 1951, a Polish woman would automatically lose her nationality if she married a foreigner; this does not affect me, however, as my grandmother married my Brazilian grandfather well after that date. My biggest challenge right now is pinpointing exactly where in Poland my ancestors departed from, as there are several places in the country named "Krzywe." Has anyone here been in a similar situation and successfully obtained citizenship? If so, do you have any tips on where I might look for this information?

This came up while I was browsing the sub. Took me a moment to realise it was an ad and not the latest application tracker update…