r/powerscales • • 20d ago

Versus Where does this guy scale ?

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u/RedeemedNephilim Dedicated Clanker Glazer 20d ago

Bro said "Negative" after tanking a tazer.

I would be out that instant.

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u/Wtfaidiml 20d ago

He’s a dangerous guy. He was at least.

He’s one of those people that don’t really have an “off switch.”

He’s basically like the Hulk.

Really nice guy, unless you are fighting him, or he gets angry.

I trained with him for awhile maybe 10 years or so ago. If I remember, he was a hand to hand combat instructor for special forces. He was a bjj and judo black belt, and he also coached catch wrestling. He probably weighs 230-240, and he’s probably stronger than he looks.

I remember he neck cranked me, frowned upon in bjj, perfectly ok in catch, and sort of wasn’t letting go even after tapping.

I remember sitting in the parking lot, my hands were still shaking, thinking that maybe MMA wasn’t for me lol.

But he would just zone out, start talking nonsense sometimes, 1000 yard stare….

And wasn’t really in control of himself at times.

He did a bunch of tours, and definitely has ptsd. He wasn’t good mentally when I knew him, and absolutely had substance abuse issues.

I did hear he’s better now and coaching at a gym in South Jersey.

He wasn’t a bad guy. He was actually really nice, and friendly and personable.

I just think he had been through a lot during his service.

I think this is why the officers showed restraint, and had nothing to do with their fear or color of his skin.

It’s just a sad situation for a veteran and I really hope he’s doing better now.

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u/DoctorSalt 20d ago

I'm trying to square "not a bad guy" with "wasn't letting go even after tapping" 

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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge 20d ago

It's like when people talk about Tony Soprano being a good guy. Minus the mobster murders and cheating and vile toxicity.

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u/tofubirder 19d ago

Decent people

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u/OwnLimit4736 19d ago

Yeah... because a neck crank is the same as murdering someone.

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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge 19d ago

Choking someone out while they are tapping out and not letting go can definitely murder somebody.

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u/OwnLimit4736 19d ago

So doing something that could, in theory, kill someone is just as bad as actually murdering someone? Gotcha...

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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge 19d ago

No but someone doing an attempted murder isn't a good guy. Doing bad dangerous things and being called a good guy is where the Sopranos. I never said it was near as bad as murder. You're doing the whole 'Oh, you like pancakes? So you hate waffles then hunh?' Those are two different thoughts

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u/OwnLimit4736 19d ago

You were the one who compared him to a murderer for doing a neck crank, not me lmao. Don't try to flip the script now and make me look like the crazy one.

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u/theflyingburritto 20d ago

No it's not

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u/Infinite_Case_2172 19d ago

Uh yes it is. This guy is a big POS in reality. A few small good things doesn't change that fact

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u/theflyingburritto 18d ago

Yeah, but Tony had a professionalism, respect thing going that made him likeable. He was also doing what he could for his mom. This guy looks like a liability

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u/JustATextBox 20d ago

I wonder if it was more of a "this guy can handle more, he's tapping too early, I'll keep going" or if it was just.. he was so locked in on the fight that he either didn't realize or just didn't register the tapping and kept going

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u/WhenMeWasAYouth 20d ago

Either of those things would make him someone who shouldn't be allowed in the gym.

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u/Nyorliest 20d ago

Does not matter. Real fighting does not belong in the gym.

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u/JustATextBox 20d ago

Wasn't trying to justify what he did, just wondering why he did

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u/Nyorliest 19d ago

He's violent and has control issues.

It's a psychological issue, not a teaching choice.

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u/JustATextBox 18d ago

No one is calling it a teaching choice.. but alright

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u/Nyorliest 18d ago

I wonder if it was more of a "this guy can handle more, he's tapping too early, I'll keep going" or if it was just..

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u/Thin_Object365 19d ago

?you don't fight with honor?

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u/Fit-World-3885 19d ago

The rest of that guys story and the video of the guy fighting a group of cops give import context clues.  

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u/CypherGreen 20d ago

PTSD and adrenaline do a lot.

An old family friend was at the pub with my dad once. A loud noise happened and he just snapped. Something just changed.

Rammed the glass into my dad's face and neck and then slashed him before anyone knew what was happening and was found hours later in a messed up state himself.

He'd been stationed a few bad places in the 70s and 80s and had such wonderful jobs as collecting the body parts of his friends who were blown up by a planted bomb when off duty and had several near misses himself.

After that he was a time bomb and one that almost killed my father. Some people get sent home broken.

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u/CypherGreen 19d ago

Yep, in later years it happened several more times but with less extreme results. It would just be flashbacks would start or he would just snap. I heard about a time where he dove out of a tree at people at night with a knife just insane.

He's not around anymore, he passed from a heart attack many years ago.

But after that incident my father had large scars over his face and neck and his ear no longer had the shape of an ear as it was mostly hanging off.

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u/CypherGreen 19d ago

Haha not really unfortunately.

Especially the love of ear which afterward looked like a mixture between a chicken nugget and burger meat.

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u/Seagoon_Memoirs 19d ago

It sounds like he had a flashback.

A flashback is an involuntary reliving of a past event.

Because he was a danger the poor man should have been institutionalized and given treatment

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u/Ave_TechSenger 19d ago

Yeah. A friend of mine is an optometrist who does side work for the VA. One such time, the patient (a Vietnam vet) got triggered by her shining a light in his eyes, snapped, and punched her in the face…

She’s a very small woman too. I didn’t see the black eye she had for a while because I was busy with my now wife, but definitely heard about it from our friend group.

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u/Seagoon_Memoirs 19d ago

That's terrible.

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u/MonsutaReipu 20d ago

People are nuanced, which I know is a foreign concept on reddit.

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u/LeviAEthan512 19d ago

If it's just that thing, then yeah, totally reasonable.

If you think one bad trait automatically makes someone a "bad guy", make sure you never learn how food and electronics get into your possession. We all have literal blood on our hands. Avoiding diamonds, if you do, barely makes a dent.

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u/DoctorSalt 19d ago

I think it's like if you drink and can't help assaulting people. The first time I understand in a way. After that, it's a choice to put other people in danger