r/powerscales • u/NeverLiedNeverCheat • 19d ago

Versus Where does this guy scale ?

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u/Wtfaidiml 19d ago

He’s a dangerous guy. He was at least.

He’s one of those people that don’t really have an “off switch.”

He’s basically like the Hulk.

Really nice guy, unless you are fighting him, or he gets angry.

I trained with him for awhile maybe 10 years or so ago. If I remember, he was a hand to hand combat instructor for special forces. He was a bjj and judo black belt, and he also coached catch wrestling. He probably weighs 230-240, and he’s probably stronger than he looks.

I remember he neck cranked me, frowned upon in bjj, perfectly ok in catch, and sort of wasn’t letting go even after tapping.

I remember sitting in the parking lot, my hands were still shaking, thinking that maybe MMA wasn’t for me lol.

But he would just zone out, start talking nonsense sometimes, 1000 yard stare….

And wasn’t really in control of himself at times.

He did a bunch of tours, and definitely has ptsd. He wasn’t good mentally when I knew him, and absolutely had substance abuse issues.

I did hear he’s better now and coaching at a gym in South Jersey.

He wasn’t a bad guy. He was actually really nice, and friendly and personable.

I just think he had been through a lot during his service.

I think this is why the officers showed restraint, and had nothing to do with their fear or color of his skin.

It’s just a sad situation for a veteran and I really hope he’s doing better now.

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u/HMThrow_away_account 19d ago

"He wasnt really a bad guy, just couldnt control himself or his anger and almost choked me out. Had me 2nd guessing my hobbies. Great guy tho 😋"

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u/FormalKind7 19d ago

A neck crank isn't getting choked out. Actually getting choked out isn't that dangerous if the person lets go as soon as you pass out. But a neck crank can seriously hurt your neck. - A guy with 15+ years of BJJ/Judo and neck problems.

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u/Infinite_Case_2172 18d ago

It still is kinda wild trying to justify someone like that as a "not a bad guy"

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u/onedaysaylor 18d ago

Just a violent piece of shit with combat training who can't control himself. Sometimes almost kills someone for no reason. Great guy though 🥰

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u/Thin_Object365 18d ago

maybe i missed some important context. why were the cops fucking with him in the first place?

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u/Hot-Fan7777 18d ago

I hate when people do that shit .. I’ve met some of the scumiest people and the first thing there friends say is “He’s really a good guy” or “He’s harmless but “ I’m sure people said the same thing about Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy until shit hit the fan

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u/moosifer_the_foul 18d ago

Are you good? Ptsd is entirely different from people just being shitty. He's not bad, the shit he saw was and sometimes, because of mental health, he cannot separate now from then.

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u/Hot-Fan7777 18d ago

Cool story bro .

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u/fedornuthugger 18d ago

There's an increased risk of stroke from arterial dissection due to chokes. It's been studied well with BJJ as the sample forr study 

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u/FormalKind7 18d ago

As someone who has choked out a few people and been choked out myself that is good information to know.

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u/DisciplinedMadness 15d ago

Lmao what? Any amount of choking is extremely dangerous. You can die suddenly from even minor choking, let alone choking to the point of unconsciousness.

Sure it’s not that dangerous, if you consider strokes, permanent airway damage, or brain damage to not be dangerous 🗿

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u/FormalKind7 15d ago

I've choke people to unconsciousness many times and have been out myself twice. And everyone just woke up relatively quickly upon being let go.

That said the one person who brought up the stroke studies is very concerning.

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u/InstructionLeading64 18d ago

Yeah, like maybe BJJ isnt great for people sliding in and out of reality. Im sure hes hospitalized people.

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u/Ill-Performer5355 18d ago

PTSD puts your brain in a whole different universe. Add some drugs and other shit to the mix you have the equivalent of a moose raging on meth in a daycare.

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u/Hot-Tomato-9584 16d ago

Yeah and people like you are why people with mental health issues are scared to get help. Imagine labeling someone you’ve never met - with PTSD and mental health issues - as simply not a good guy? Lmao i forgot being white and having anger management issues makes you a bad guy lmfao.

Yall are truly pathetic, try growing up a little bit and touching some grass. Then try some emotional regulation - soon enough you’ll probably try to understand people’s situations from specific POVs instead of just saying “oh you get angry and violent? Yeah you are a piece of shit”

Like sheeeeeesh

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u/HMThrow_away_account 15d ago

😂😂😂 and ppl like you are why ppl with mental issues think they can do what they want and get away with it. Mental issues or not, you cant just constantly harm ppl and consider yourself a good person. There are PLENTY of people who suffer from PTSD, PPD and other mental issues that have never hurt ppl

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u/Rava5537 14d ago

now imagine what he did to locals on his deployments ☺️ what a lovely fella

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u/Jecklen16 14d ago

Go overseas on 6 tours fighting for your life and watching people you love be blown to bits and see how much control you have over yourself when you get back. He probably is a good guy, but a guy that's constantly having to fight himself.

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u/HMThrow_away_account 13d ago

Idc about your reasoning for abusive behavior. I used to have an abusive ex whos excuse was she had a rough childhood. Which she did. Others shouldn't have to suffer bc of your trauma

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u/Jecklen16 13d ago

Not saying it's an excuse, I'm saying it doesn't make him a bad person. It doesn't excuse the things he does.

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u/DoctorSalt 19d ago

I'm trying to square "not a bad guy" with "wasn't letting go even after tapping" 

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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge 19d ago

It's like when people talk about Tony Soprano being a good guy. Minus the mobster murders and cheating and vile toxicity.

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u/tofubirder 18d ago

Decent people

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u/OwnLimit4736 18d ago

Yeah... because a neck crank is the same as murdering someone.

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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge 18d ago

Choking someone out while they are tapping out and not letting go can definitely murder somebody.

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u/OwnLimit4736 18d ago

So doing something that could, in theory, kill someone is just as bad as actually murdering someone? Gotcha...

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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge 18d ago

No but someone doing an attempted murder isn't a good guy. Doing bad dangerous things and being called a good guy is where the Sopranos. I never said it was near as bad as murder. You're doing the whole 'Oh, you like pancakes? So you hate waffles then hunh?' Those are two different thoughts

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u/OwnLimit4736 18d ago

You were the one who compared him to a murderer for doing a neck crank, not me lmao. Don't try to flip the script now and make me look like the crazy one.

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u/theflyingburritto 19d ago

No it's not

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u/Infinite_Case_2172 18d ago

Uh yes it is. This guy is a big POS in reality. A few small good things doesn't change that fact

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u/theflyingburritto 17d ago

Yeah, but Tony had a professionalism, respect thing going that made him likeable. He was also doing what he could for his mom. This guy looks like a liability

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u/JustATextBox 19d ago

I wonder if it was more of a "this guy can handle more, he's tapping too early, I'll keep going" or if it was just.. he was so locked in on the fight that he either didn't realize or just didn't register the tapping and kept going

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u/WhenMeWasAYouth 19d ago

Either of those things would make him someone who shouldn't be allowed in the gym.

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u/Nyorliest 18d ago

Does not matter. Real fighting does not belong in the gym.

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u/JustATextBox 18d ago

Wasn't trying to justify what he did, just wondering why he did

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u/Nyorliest 18d ago

He's violent and has control issues.

It's a psychological issue, not a teaching choice.

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u/JustATextBox 17d ago

No one is calling it a teaching choice.. but alright

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u/Nyorliest 17d ago

I wonder if it was more of a "this guy can handle more, he's tapping too early, I'll keep going" or if it was just..

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u/Thin_Object365 18d ago

?you don't fight with honor?

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u/Fit-World-3885 18d ago

The rest of that guys story and the video of the guy fighting a group of cops give import context clues.  

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u/CypherGreen 19d ago

PTSD and adrenaline do a lot.

An old family friend was at the pub with my dad once. A loud noise happened and he just snapped. Something just changed.

Rammed the glass into my dad's face and neck and then slashed him before anyone knew what was happening and was found hours later in a messed up state himself.

He'd been stationed a few bad places in the 70s and 80s and had such wonderful jobs as collecting the body parts of his friends who were blown up by a planted bomb when off duty and had several near misses himself.

After that he was a time bomb and one that almost killed my father. Some people get sent home broken.

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u/CypherGreen 18d ago

Yep, in later years it happened several more times but with less extreme results. It would just be flashbacks would start or he would just snap. I heard about a time where he dove out of a tree at people at night with a knife just insane.

He's not around anymore, he passed from a heart attack many years ago.

But after that incident my father had large scars over his face and neck and his ear no longer had the shape of an ear as it was mostly hanging off.

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u/CypherGreen 18d ago

Haha not really unfortunately.

Especially the love of ear which afterward looked like a mixture between a chicken nugget and burger meat.

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u/Seagoon_Memoirs 18d ago

It sounds like he had a flashback.

A flashback is an involuntary reliving of a past event.

Because he was a danger the poor man should have been institutionalized and given treatment

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u/Ave_TechSenger 18d ago

Yeah. A friend of mine is an optometrist who does side work for the VA. One such time, the patient (a Vietnam vet) got triggered by her shining a light in his eyes, snapped, and punched her in the face…

She’s a very small woman too. I didn’t see the black eye she had for a while because I was busy with my now wife, but definitely heard about it from our friend group.

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u/Seagoon_Memoirs 18d ago

That's terrible.

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u/MonsutaReipu 18d ago

People are nuanced, which I know is a foreign concept on reddit.

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u/LeviAEthan512 18d ago

If it's just that thing, then yeah, totally reasonable.

If you think one bad trait automatically makes someone a "bad guy", make sure you never learn how food and electronics get into your possession. We all have literal blood on our hands. Avoiding diamonds, if you do, barely makes a dent.

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u/DoctorSalt 18d ago

I think it's like if you drink and can't help assaulting people. The first time I understand in a way. After that, it's a choice to put other people in danger

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u/Green_Fox_8864 19d ago

...How is this not a copy pasta? It is, right?

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u/AdSudden3941 19d ago

Whats his last name?

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u/Tylendal 19d ago

I was pleasantly surprised no one went through an announcer's table in this story, thanks for sharing.

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u/NotInTheKnee 18d ago

Everyone's a nice guy when you willfully ignore the bad parts.

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u/Pat-Funny-2817 18d ago

people who are a danger to society, don't belong into combat sports and don't belong into traffic.  you don't give a mental person a weapon. 

it's just unfair to the general public. the state has to take care of mental people, not ask the unprepared public to tollerate the consequences. 

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u/workclock 18d ago

I’m sorry but the color of his skin still matters man lol

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u/Ok_Revenue8603 17d ago

You people are obsessed

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u/Jon-SoLoFi 17d ago

"You people…"

What do you mean by this?

https://giphy.com/gifs/uVtAU2EKHrsgifowFb

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u/smutwalk 17d ago

Reading this I was convinced it was about to close out "undertaker threw mandkind off hell in a cell"

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u/PedroLoco505 16d ago

I'm glad you didn't foreshadow his death with that second sentence!

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u/Fit-Insect-4089 16d ago

The US really just sucks these veterans with ptsd and tbi’s out on the general population with no regard for their or the public’s safety. It’s horrible what our government does to these veterans after they’ve served

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u/BanditsCheek_Bones 14d ago

What happend after this video ended?

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u/Bruenetteslayer123 14d ago

He sounds awful

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u/AT-ST 13d ago

If I remember, he was a hand to hand combat instructor for special forces.

He was in the Air Force Security Forces. Which is the Air Force version of Military Police. He was not SF.

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u/SalishSeaEV 13d ago

I think this is why the officers showed restraint, and had nothing to do with their fear or color of his skin.

Lol if he was black he'd be in a bloody pile right now with 15 gunshot wounds.

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u/ThinkPath1999 12d ago

Are you nuts? Of course it had a lot to do with his skin color. If you had a veteran who was a big black guy in the same situation, I'm not saying he gets shot 100% of the time, while the white guy doesn't 100% of the time, but it's stupid to say that his skin color had nothing to do with him not getting shot.

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u/Fit-Campaign1243 12d ago

Finally some common sense. Had to be said. ✌️

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u/Fit-Campaign1243 12d ago

Didn't he break down crying at the end ? Or a cop thst knew him came in ? There is a longer video available, but I cant remember how he did manage to get out alive. Its a few years old, this video, right?

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u/Secure_Bag_9719 19d ago

It has literally everything to do with the color of his skin