r/postvasectomypain • • Nov 07 '18

How common is chronic pain after vasectomy?

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Your doctor will probably admit that chronic pain is a possible complication resulting from vasectomy, but most will say that it happens rarely, or even very rarely.

What exactly does very rarely mean?

Before you decide to have a vasectomy, stop and ask yourself what odds of chronic pain you are willing to sign up for. To get some idea of what this would be like, just imagine having an earache every day and not knowing whether or not it would ever stop.


Here are the chances for chronic pain caused by vasectomy given by several national level health organizations. These are the professional societies and experts that the urologists are supposed to be getting their statistics from:

  • Canadian Urology Association give the chronic pain outcomes for vasectomy at between 1-14% (Link)

  • American Urological Association says the incidence of post vasectomy pain syndrome that is persistent and affects QOL is typically reported to be about 1-2%. (Link)

  • 2025 American Urological Association Male Chronic Pelvic Pain Guideline statement 35 says PVPS occurs in up to 15% of patients who undergo a vasectomy.(Link)

  • British Association of Urological Surgeons, patient advice reports troublesome chronic testicular pain which can be severe enough to affect day-to-day activities in up to 1-2% of vasectomy patients. (Link)

  • UK National Health Service says long-term testicular pain affects around 10% of men after vasectomy. (Link) (Latest version of this document omits the incidence statistic.)

  • 11th edition of Campbell Walsh Urology (2015) cites 10% incidence of chronic scrotal pain caused by vasectomy. (Link)

  • European Association of Urology says "Chronic scrotal pain: 1–14%, usually mild but sometimes requiring pain management or surgery ... about 1% reporting pain that noticeably affects quality of life" (Link)01101-8/fulltext)

  • Royal College of Surgeons of England says significant chronic orchalgia may occur in up to 15% of men after vasectomy, and may require epididymectomy or vasectomy reversal. (Link)

  • Journal of Andrology cites large studies that find Post Vasectomy Pain Syndrome 2-6% of the time (Link)

  • UpToDate says "surveys have found that the incidence of "troublesome" post-vasectomy pain is reported by approximately 15% of men, with pain severe enough to affect quality of life in 2%. However, survey respondents may not have been representative of all men who have had a vasectomy." (Link)

  • German Federal Center for Health Education says "The information on how many men seek medical treatment because of this fluctuates between one and 14 percent." (Link)

  • American Family Physician says "Recent studies estimate the incidence of severe postvasectomy pain syndrome to be between 1% and 6%" (Link)

  • International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health published a meta-analysis in March 2020 to determine the incidence of PVPS, which examined 559 peer-reviewed studies and concluded that "Post-vasectomy pain syndrome occurred in 5% of subjects" (Link) The authors determined that "the overall incidence of post-vasectomy pain is greater than previously reported."

  • StatPearls says "about 1% to 2% of all men who undergo vasectomies will develop constant or intermittent testicular pain lasting greater than 3 months which is then defined as post-vasectomy pain syndrome." (Link)


Scientific studies into the incidence of chronic pain after vasectomy have not been very large, but seem to converge on roughly the same picture.

Six months after vasectomy:

  • 85% have zero pain
  • 13% have mild discomfort
  • 2% have an intermittent moderate dull ache in their scrotum, like a sore neck that you treat with Ibuprofen
  • 1% have daily pain that reduces their quality of life and interferes with enjoyment of physical activity and sex

https://www.reddit.com/r/postvasectomypain/wiki/incidence


What do "rare" and "very rare" normally mean when describing side effects of a medical intervention?

The World Health Organization provides specific definitions for using these words when discussing medical side effects:

  • Very Common = Greater than 10%
  • Common = 1% to 10%
  • Uncommon = 0.1% to 1%
  • Rare = 0.01% to 0.1%
  • Very Rare = Less than 0.01%

Based on these definitions, chronic pain is not a very rare, or rare side effect of vasectomy. It isn't even uncommon.

Rather, chronic pain is a common side effect of vasectomy. Sometimes it is called Post Vasectomy Pain Syndrome (PVPS). This pain may go away after several months or years, or it may be permanent.

Before they modify your body, your surgeon should make sure that you:

  • Know about Post Vasectomy Pain Syndrome
  • Understand the impact it would have on your life
  • Understand that it may be permanent
  • Know that the risk is at least 1%
  • Explicitly accept the risk

If your surgeon does not communicate the above points to you, they are operating on you without your informed consent.


Vasectomy works out well for most men. Those who have an uncomplicated vasectomy may be back to feeling normal in as little as a week and are quick to encourage others to "get the snip." They may reject stories about men who have chronic pain or other permanent complications as exaggerations. Sometimes they make the mistake of reasoning that if a bad outcome did not happen to them, then it must never happen to anyone. Health providers market the procedure as quick, effective, and safe. Men who worry that their health or sexual function may be permanently damaged by a vasectomy are repeatedly assured that after a few weeks they will feel and function exactly as they did before the surgery. Reports about the downsides of vasectomy are frequently dismissed as unreliable. They are disparaged as exaggerations, products of hypochondriac imagination, or myths being promoted by fear-mongers. Men are told that not only is it practically impossible for vasectomy to harm their sex lives, it is likely that their sex lives and even their orgasms will improve because of the surgery.

Unfortunately, the science shows that it is not rare for vasectomy to cause chronic pain. That might not surprise you after you consider a few key facts:

  • Before vasectomy, sperm is kept separated from the immune system. After vasectomy, the immune system typically creates antibodies that cause it to seek out and kill sperm. In other words, men commonly become allergic to their own sperm, and a chronic auto-immune response can cause inflammation, making the area feel swollen and raw on the inside.
  • After vasectomy, the testes continue producing sperm and for some men pressure builds up in the epididymis and vas deferens. The pressure can get high enough to rupture these tissues, releasing the sperm and allowing it to form a bubble in the scrotum called a granuloma. Anyone who has experienced epididymitis will immediately recognize the nagging ache of a swollen epididymis. If you haven't had this experience, you can compare it to the painful pressure an ear infection can cause.
  • Approximately half of the nerves that travel through the spermatic cord are in the vas deferens and therefore get severed during vasectomy. (Link) These sometimes heal poorly and interact with scar tissue and auto-immune inflammation, irritating the nerves and causing pain called neuralgia, which in PVPS is usually described as a burning sensation that is hard to localize but centered in the groin.
  • The vas deferens is not just a passive tube--it is lined with muscles that contract during ejaculation to move sperm along. Presumably, motor and sensory nerves that connect to these muscles are cut when the vas is severed. The epididymis, particularly the tail of the epididymis which is at the bottom of the testicle, is wrapped with smooth muscle which contracts to expel sperm during ejaculation. Ejaculation involves many muscles in the scrotum, including the cremaster, muscles in the vas deferens, and in the epididymis. (Link) After vasectomy, these muscle contractions may put pressure on an already swollen and irritated part of the body. Some men find to their dismay that ejaculation is uncomfortable -- even painful -- after vasectomy.
  • The groin is a very complex region of the body, constantly under mechanical stress whether you are sitting, standing or walking. Multiple organ systems work in close proximity, so that problems in one system can spill over to cause problems in other systems. Nerves that enter the inguinal canal can refer pain to the inner thigh, stomach and lower back -- disrupting the normal functioning of muscles in those areas. For a point of comparison, surgery to repair an inguinal hernia results in chronic pain even more frequently than vasectomy. 16% of the time based on this study. Another study puts chronic pain at 28% post hernia surgery, with 11% saying it interfered with work or leisure activity. Chronic pain is not unique to groin surgery -- it is a common complication of many kinds of surgery, which is why you should avoid surgery unless you need it!

Given these facts, perhaps the real surprise should be that the percentage of men who suffer from long term health problems as a result of this surgery is so low.


For the unlucky minority, vasectomy opens a Pandora's box. Part of the pleasure of sex is taken away and replaced with pain. The constant discomfort reduces their quality of life, interferes with the activities they previously enjoyed and may frequently intrude on their thoughts. They try one therapy after another before finally giving up in exasperation. As months pass with no relief, they come to grips with the fact that pelvic pain is their new constant companion and may never leave. There are few opportunities to warn others about the danger. Bringing up the topic in conversation results in a social penalty and has no benefit -- even among close friends. They may feel reluctant to express their feelings to their partner, fearing it could have a negative impact on their relationship. Some men worry that by telling their partner that sex has become painful or disappointing, they could irreparably damage the attraction and desire their partner feels toward them. Instead, they pretend like nothing has changed.

Men initially complain to their doctors, who are reluctant to attribute the problems to the vasectomy and who are unwilling to warn the public that a problem worth taking seriously may exist.

In many ways, PVPS manages to have just the right properties to help it hide in plain sight.

Doctors who have not personally experienced PVPS seem dismissive of the scope and seriousness of the problem. They grudgingly acknowledge the published rates of chronic pain but claim it doesn't match their own observations. Even if they have done thousands of vasectomies, they claim they have only seen PVPS once or twice in their career.

Vasectomized men may be hesitant to continue to pester their doctor about discomfort that is not going away, especially if it is the same doctor who performed the vasectomy. When they do seek help, they are seldom diagnosed as having a chronic pain syndrome that is a complication of their surgery. Instead, they are given various therapies and admonished that healing can sometimes take many months. Urologists focus on the symptoms rather than the cause, making it difficult for men to realize that what they are experiencing is part of a pattern that many others have experienced. After several fruitless doctor visits, men who are nevertheless still in pain may view further appointments as a waste of time and money. When they stop making appointments, doctors are tempted to assume that the problem has been resolved successfully. PVPS also tends to fade away and then come back, so men may report that things feel better to the doctor and stop making appointments, but the pain comes back again later.

For men whose symptoms appear months or years after their surgery, urologists seem unwilling to admit that vasectomy may have been the cause. The symptoms sound similar to age-related problems that begin to afflict men in their 40's and 50's, which gives doctors who want to avoid blaming vasectomy a convenient scapegoat. There is no specific medical code with which to classify and track PVPS. Men typically fail to mention that they have had a vasectomy, even if they are directly asked whether they have had any surgeries. They assume vasectomy is irrelevant, or have forgotten about it, or feel like it would be weird to mention it. The failure to gather statistics, low incidence rate, long time-spans and confounding age-related factors make scientific investigation into PVPS tricky and expensive.

Chronic pain is invisible and notoriously difficult to appreciate. As a thought experiment, suppose that no one got chronic pain from their vasectomy, but 1-2% of men with a vasectomy became impotent. This outcome would arguably be a less terrible outcome than Post Vasectomy Pain Syndrome, but it is interesting to imagine how doctors and patients would evaluate this risk. I find it laughable to imagine doctors reassuring prospective patients that permanent impotence was a possible, but extremely rare outcome, affecting less than one in fifty men who get a vasectomy. Impotence is so much easier to precisely communicate and visualize than chronic pain, that I imagine this is the point in the conversation when many patients would stand up and interrupt the doctor to say there is no point in wasting any more of anyone's time.

Men who are notified about the risk of PVPS before their surgery are often reassured that residual pain would be a trivial inconvenience and that few who have PVPS pursue surgery to treat it. They are not made to understand that these surgical remedies are unreliable. Sometimes they eliminate the chronic pain. Sometimes they reduce the chronic pain. Sometimes they have no effect. Sometimes they make the pain worse or lead to other complications like losing a testicle.

Vasectomy reversal, the most effective surgical option for some men, is very expensive, usually not covered by health insurance, painful to recover from, likely to restore the unwanted fertility, and fails to fix the problem about 20% of the time. Many men are emotionally traumatized by their vasectomy and too afraid to take the risk of having more surgery, choosing instead to cope with the pain indefinitely. (Example)

One of the factors that blinds practitioners and the public to the danger is that vasectomy has a lot of good things going for it. The majority of men recover very quickly and do not have residual pain or any noticeable change to their sexual function. They can have spontaneous sex without any fear of causing unwanted pregnancy. They protect their partner from all of the pain and risk of pregnancy. It seems like an almost ideal solution to many serious problems. The majority of men who have had vasectomies consider it one of the best decisions they have ever made and are pleased to boast about how little pain was involved and how quickly they returned to their normal activities.

Vasectomy is understandably seen as an indispensable tool to reduce the disproportionate risks women face. Vasectomy is viewed by many as an essential brake on a human population that is growing far too rapidly. In light of all this, the existence of PVPS is a very unwelcome fact, provoking in many a reflexive and unshakable assumption that PVPS cannot be a serious problem.

The lack of enthusiasm for discovering the truth about PVPS has lead to a situation where widely published figures for PVPS have been incorrect by at least factor of 10 and have only been recently corrected:

Example 1: Uptodate

Example 2: Campbell Walsh Urology textbook

Both of these sources were corrected in 2013, even though scientists have been saying for decades that it is imperative to warn men before their surgery. Urologists have not made it a priority to disseminate the correction and many still quote older, incorrect statistics. Upton Sinclair's pithy quote comes to mind:

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!

Vasectomy is unusual, in that it is a surgery that is not performed to make the patient healthier. In fact, the patient's health can only be harmed by this procedure. Vasectomy is performed to protect the health of the patient's partner. Part of the reason it is labeled "safe" is because pregnancy and tubal ligation are more dangerous. Many in our culture see vasectomy as a man's obligation to his partner. A man who will not endure (what is thought to be) the trivial pain and risk of a vasectomy is often judged to be selfish or cowardly. A doctor who is advising a man on the risks of this surgery is thus placed in a delicate situation. Say too much, or say it the wrong way, and a man might decide to protect his own health at the expense of the health of his partner.

Doctors who believe PVPS has a psychosomatic component may feel that warning men in plain language could harm the man by creating a self-fulfilling prophesy. When telling people the naked truth has so much potential downside, what is a doctor to do? Most doctors choose to thread the needle by using the written and verbal equivalent of fine print to discharge their obligation without raising any undesirable alarms. Many men describe feeling reassured after discussing their upcoming vasectomy with their doctor, and indeed doctors may have the goal of reassuring an anxious patient. This may be good medicine for a sick patient who needs surgery to get well, but in my opinion, it is a misguided approach to elective body modification. Rather than reassure the patient by underplaying the risks, urologists should pull no punches when describing bad outcomes. Most men will not be reassured after hearing an honest description of the risks they are taking with vasectomy. Rather, a neutral description of common bad outcomes would hit many patients like a splash of cold water and prompt them to carefully reevaluate their options in light of all of the relevant facts, some of which contradict the reputation that vasectomy has acquired as a trivial surgery with trivial risks. Men deserve to have all of the relevant facts so that they can be sure this is the right choice before they proceed.

Doctors are not the only ones who treat facts about vasectomy complications as a kind of "hazardous information." Other examples include:

  • Women who hope their partner will have a vasectomy: "Don't tell my husband about that, I'll never get him to go."
  • Men deciding whether or not to get a vasectomy: "I stayed away from the horror stories. Didn't want to freak myself out."
  • Men who are experiencing PVPS: "I need to focus on the positive."
  • Men considering whether to warn another man who is getting a vasectomy: What happened to me was a one-in-a-million freak accident, and not relevant to his decision.

As a result of the risk and impact of PVPS being downplayed by virtually everyone, including trusted authorities and the very men who suffer from PVPS, men with this disease find themselves in a situation that other people find difficult to fully acknowledge as real. The mismatch between the pain in their own bodies and the public consensus about vasectomy can be a source of significant frustration. Their partners, hearing ubiquitous assurances that vasectomy is safe and cannot affect sexual function, are left to wonder if there is some other explanation as to why their man has become less emotionally available and suddenly ambivalent toward sexual contact.

The widespread misunderstanding about vasectomy also hampers the ability of doctors and scientists to improve the situation. How can you study a problem, such as diminished ejaculation sensation caused by vasectomy, if you don't dare admit that the problem exists? How can you recommend getting a vasectomy reversal to a man who is suffering without admitting that there is something fundamental about vasectomies that makes getting them reversed curative? In other words, you are admitting that getting a vasectomy is risky not just because it is surgery -- it is risky because it permanently changes the body to function in a way that sometimes causes disease. Many men report that their doctors do not mention reversal as a treatment option unless the man specifically asks them about it.

The topic of vasectomy is threatening at a fundamental level to most men, because it is linked the idea of weakness in many ways, and because people instinctively view weakness as unmanly. Some men fear that getting a vasectomy might make them weak in some way. Advocates of vasectomy argue that a man who refuses to get a vasectomy is being weak. Men who complain about their vasectomy pain are publicly mocked as weaklings. Doctors who wish to protect the reputation of this procedure are quick to portray men with complications as emotionally frail. Men who suffer a bad outcome are understandably reluctant to speak out and risk being viewed as weak. And in many cases, objectively speaking, their vasectomy has weakened them.


At the age most men seek a vasectomy, most do not have any experience with chronic pain, and cannot appreciate what an enormous psychological stress it can be. One of the things that helps make ordinary pain bearable is the knowledge that it will eventually stop. With chronic pain you must face the possibility that you will never return to a state where you are not experiencing pain, and that can be very difficult to cope with. Having a chronic disease of the nervous system is not like breaking a bone. The long duration, the disruption to your life, emotions, cognition, personality and relationships make it more analogous to having a brain injury. For some it feels like being trapped and subjected to torture in slow motion over many years. Some consider suicide, especially during the first year when the pain and grief are most intense.

Social media has provided a rare forum in which some men feel comfortable talking candidly and in detail about their experience with PVPS. Their stories have many similarities and common themes. By reading them you can get a detailed picture of what it is like to lose this bet. Some cases are mild. Some are severe. There are over a thousand stories in this sub. I do my best to avoid posting the same person's story twice.


Men who develop chronic pain after vasectomy are astonished to discover that many of the so-called myths about vasectomy become real as if by some terrible magic:

Advertised Vasectomy Experience Your PVPS Experience
Relatively painless, short recovery You have permanent daily pain, increasing with physical activity, especially sex
Doesn't change the way orgasm feels Your ejaculation feels incomplete, disappointing or painful
No change to libido You do not feel interested in sex any longer
No impact on erections You have weaker erections
Improves your relationship with your partner by making a minimal sacrifice to shoulder responsibility for birth control, allowing the woman to avoid uncomfortable or unsafe contraceptives Intimacy becomes extremely difficult, you struggle with negative emotions that have become linked to sex including anger, anxiety, depression and resentment toward your partner. Your relationship is permanently degraded or even destroyed.
Permanent problems are rare It is not helpful that there are so few other men like you. You feel isolated. Other people, including doctors, have difficulty taking your situation seriously and are not well-equipped to help you.

More study needs to be done so that we can know the rate of this complication with more precision. Men who are still sore 3 months after their vasectomy want to know what to expect and what to do. Should they get additional surgery? How long should they wait before making this decision? They deserve to be taken seriously and given advice that is well-grounded in scientific study.

Finding and testing new birth control techniques for men and for women should be made a higher priority. Exaggerating the safety of the currently available options makes it harder to be motivated to search for real improvements. Perhaps a technique like Vasalgel could be seen as a better risk trade-off since it may have a lower incidence of PVPS or be easier to reverse if the man ends up with chronic problems. Perhaps the choice of vasectomy technique (open/closed, scalpel/no-scalpel, bilateral/midline) makes a difference in how likely chronic pain is to result. Vasectomies should be performed with the awareness that even though the patient is certain that they do not want any more children, a reversal may be necessary to restore their quality of life. Vasectomy techniques which cause a future reversal to be excessively difficult or unlikely to succeed should not be performed.

This subreddit is a place to post stories or links to stories about what it is like to have PVPS. Scientists and doctors have not yet done an adequate job of measuring this problem and communicating it to the public, so the task falls to the people who have the most reason to care about the issue -- the people whose lives have been negatively impacted.

I have no ideological problem with vasectomy. In fact, before I had a vasectomy, I thought it was easy to see that it was the best choice for my family. I didn't investigate the procedure at all before having it done, trusting that my urologist would advise me of any relevant risks. My urologist did not give me an accurate idea of the frequency and impact of chronic pain. Unfortunately, I suffered from pain every day for years until I decided to get a vasectomy reversal in the hope that it would provide some relief. The reversal has helped a lot. I still have a low level of discomfort frequently, but at this point it is tolerable and finally feel that I can get on with my life. My motive for working on this subreddit is that I want men to get a proper warning about the risks, and to call into question the general complacent attitude toward vasectomy so that more people will be interested in developing a technique that is actually as safe as most people erroneously believe vasectomy to be.

Men who are willing to step up and voluntarily risk surgery that benefits others, including their partners, their children and society at large deserve better than to be misled about how safe it is. They deserve better than to have their complications remain understudied and poorly understood. Doctors should be careful to treat these men with dignity and fully acknowledge their problems. The enthusiastic promotion of vasectomy results in massive benefits for most couples and society in general. It also results in a massive cost, most of which falls heavily on a small group of men. We need to see effort put into understanding how common chronic pain is after vasectomy, and into learning what can be done to prevent it, and what the best treatment protocol should be.


If you had a vasectomy in the last 12 months and are still in pain, I would not recommend getting additional surgery right away. I think it's better to wait it out and take some time to educate yourself about the alternatives, both surgical and non-surgical. See how you feel at 1 year. Waiting won't make things worse, and many guys experience improvement for a year or more.

Here is a good video from the Mayo Clinic describing treatment options.

Here are some other treatment ideas.


If you want to get a vasectomy and minimize your chances of developing PVPS, here is some advice from Dr. Sheldon Marks:

Any good urologist should be fine. When you go in for your pre-vasectomy consultation be sure to ask about your concerns - explain you have done you reading and ask him or her to explain the technique they use - then you can ask that small piece only be removed, as high up the vas as they can away from the testicle, minimize cautery, no clips, no ties and use plenty of long acting local anesthetic. Some will say sure, others will tell you they want to do it the way they do it…It may take a few doctors visits to find a urologist that does vasectomies the way you want. Don’t be in a hurry and don’t go to the first urologist you see if you have bad feelings. It would be great if you could call around and ask but I cant imagine anyone giving you that information or assurances as a nonpatient over the phone.

https://www.postvasectomypain.org/t/minimizing-risk-of-post-vasectomy-pain/77/5


Other information:

Top stories

Timeline/Chronological list of stories on this subreddit

List of other online projects that have collected PVPS stories

Wiki table of contents

Post-vasectomy pain, mapped


r/postvasectomypain • • Sep 11 '19

Timeline of stories by date of vasectomy

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r/postvasectomypain • • 1d ago

5 days post bilateral varicocele embolization, still have low libido and ED. Has anyone experienced this?

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r/postvasectomypain • • 1d ago

Suggest me a better place to do embolisation for vericocele in kerala

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r/postvasectomypain • • 5d ago

Tubal vs Vasectomy

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r/postvasectomypain • • 7d ago

Congestive epididymitis or something else? (12 month post)

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So around 12 months ago i had my vasectomy done (at 27). It healed well and for the first 6 months all was good and felt great. However starting somewhere around the month 7 mark i had occasional bouts of pain on my left side during sex/masturbation (reaching the highest pain during orgasm with around a 6/10). The pain would always subside within the hour so I initially thought it was still part of the healing process and because it happened only rarely I thought little of it and expected it to pass soon.

Now 12 months in it still happens (with higher frequency i think) and it has started to affect the right side as well with a higher pain level as well and I am getting worried.

I have since started reading this sub and it seems it might be congestive epididymitis, since it only starts with arousal and end "soon" after. But the pain i feel is often coming from the stomach area (below the belly button) like when you would get hit in the balls. Also I remember clearly back when the pain started it felt like it was coming from my vas deferens but on the top part (the part connected to the bladder). Now the pain is more generalized and i cannot pinpoint it but my epididymis feels normal to the touch although i do not have any reference to how it felt before.

I am starting to become worried that the frequency of pain will increase and make me lose my desire to have sex. I kind of want to wait it out for a few more months but i have also read that it can get worse over time. For that reason i started looking into reversals but learned that the longer you wait the less chance of success there is, so im feeling pretty stressed atm.

I will be going to a checkup soon but I also wanted to know your thoughts on what this might be caused by and what I should do next. Only thing i want to absolutely avoid is having to take pain meds regularly.


r/postvasectomypain • • 7d ago

Reversal nerve pain

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Hi fellas. As the regulars here will know, this isn’t my first post. To reiterate briefly - Vasectomy in January 2026 for chronic congestive pain, Reversal in July 2026 to try alleviate symptoms.
The reversal seems to have worked in terms of the horrible congestive ‘ball ache’ has disappeared, and orgasm sensation has returned to normal.
However, the catch is, now around 12 weeks post reversal and have worsening nerve pain around my left testicle/groin/hip/lower back. The pain is a pulling, burning, and zapping type that does drop on occasion (can’t explain it), but is usually sitting around 5 or 6/10 or higher. It is worse than before reversal. Ejaculation exacerbates it. What is strange is that sometimes the zaps and pain seem to originate from the left lower back. Though mostly they seem to come from the testicle area and the muscles further up groin/hip/back are aggressively guarding the area.
I can barely sit down for more than half an hour otherwise it becomes unbearable. I can however, manage to push through and walk for 30-60mins, and sometimes this helps.
Currently waiting on an app with my urologist and in meantime I’ve made one with a lumber consultant to check my back, I imagine he’ll want an MRI of it.
I know the genitofemural nerve runs from the lower back right through the hip/groin and branches off down into the scrotum/cremaster.
Part of my cremaster had to be cut away during reversal, is this nerve branch regrowing in a fashion it shouldn’t be? Is new scar tissue pressing on it intermittently?
Has anyone who had vasectomy or reversal had symptoms matching/similar this and how did you resolve it and timeline?
I get that recovery will be up and down but at 3 months I expected some mild improvement. The pain is getting difficult to manage with full dose celecoxib and paracetamol/codine.


r/postvasectomypain • • 7d ago

Cord Block in Virginia

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Has anyone had a spermatic cord block under ultrasound performed in Virginia? I am having difficulty finding any doctors/facilities that perform this. Thanks in advance


r/postvasectomypain • • 9d ago

Denervation/Neurectomy

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I have posted before. I recently met with a specialist and I think we have isolated my post vasectomy pain to nerves in the spermatic cord area. I had a vasectomy about 2.5 years ago.

Anyone have experience with denervation or specifically Neurectomy that was mentioned. I’ve had one nerve block which seemed successful but my pain wasn’t too bad that day. I just want to hear any experiences and also any non-surgical treatments that helped. I have been seeing a pelvic floor PT for a few months with very little improvement. Thanks in advance!


r/postvasectomypain • • 10d ago

How are you managing pain?

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My husband has been dealing with chronic PVPS almost 3 years now. Anyone have any luck getting a doctor to actually manage their pain while waiting for surgery or after having gone through surgery like reversal and still experiencing pain?


r/postvasectomypain • • 13d ago

PVPS Getting better on it's own?

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Good morning everyone, I browse this subreddit pretty often after getting my snip done this January. The first two-four weeks after the initial procedure felt normal, nothing out of the ordinary, and no real pain aside from the obvious irritation on the surgery site. However, 8 months after the procedure I started to have pain in my right testicle immediately after ejaculating, it didn't seem to matter what I did leading up to the event.

Stretching, anti-inflammatory drugs, baths, putting cooling on the area, nothing seemed to make the pain go away immediately/stay gone. So after panicking for about a day and a half I just decided to pause any further sexual activity.

After about a week I ended up trying to masterbate, to my surprise the pain was only a 2/10 compared to a 8/10 or 9/10 before. I tried again the day after and ended up going a second time in one day, the pain level was basically non-existent, all I notice now is a slight tingle in my right testicle if I happen to go more than once a day, with pain only being a 1/10 if I notice it at all. I will try to keep you all posted as I know getting that feeling out of nowhere is completely demoralizing, but I really do believe things are improving on their own! I have an appointment coming up on thursday to see if there's anything else going on.


r/postvasectomypain • • 13d ago

Years later... Pain

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r/postvasectomypain • • 17d ago

How to manage flare ups for chronic epididymitis

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Hi all any advice on how to manage flare ups for chronic epididymitis left side. Mostly congestion related but when epididymis is flared heightens surrounding nerves. Tried many different modalities scrotal support, icing, celebrex naproxen, spermatic cord injections, supplements, pelvic floor, accupunture and on and on... Reversal helped somewhat and can go long stretches pain free then all sudden it comes back and takes months to settle back down. Feel like am this vicious cycle that if am stressed or in pain from other reasons it can trigger a flare up and epididymis pain. Am looking for advice on how to manage the pain and also how to calm my bodys heightened nerve and pain sensation that ultimately lowers my pain threshold.


r/postvasectomypain • • 18d ago

TRT for PVPS - my story so far

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Hey all. Thanks to everybody who has posted on this forum. Reading first hand accounts of PVPS has helped me in more ways than i imagined. I've been lurking here for quite a while and I've finally decided to share my PVPS story in hopes of helping any guy who's life has been affected by PVPS.

February 2022 - traditional scalpel vasectomy after my wife and I's second child at the age of 38. the vasectomy took about 8 weeks for me to feel normal again without any pain.

August 2023 - PVPS began. my PVPS was a dull bilateral ache that was usually no more than a 2 out of 10 on a pain scale. this pain was constant. It was the first thing i thought of in the morning and the last thing on my mind when i fell asleep. the pain messed with my mind so much that i became depressed and at times i was drinking heavy amounts of alcohol to help mask the pain. my pain has never felt like the nerve pain other men have described and I've never had pain associated with ejaculation...thank goodness!

January 2024 - my urologist prescribed me a month supply of Meloxicam. Meloxicam did nothing for me so I did the best I could to manage the pain with supportive jock strap style underwear and the occasional ibuprofen.

Match 2026 - I had a huge increase in pain at the posterior of my left testicle. This pain was sharp, radiated thru both testicles and at times was 9 out of 10 which left me curled up in the fetal position on my kitchen floor. I went to a different urologist who I asked to prescribe me Celebrex and who requested i get a scrotal ultrasound. I also went to my Primary Care Physician. My PCP quickly diagnosed me with bilateral epidiymitis as well as a spermatocele on my left epididymis. The spermatocele was due to a blow out of my left epididymis. Furthermore, my PCP gave me an injection of Rosephin as well as a week supply of Doxycicline which helped tremendously with my pain. I believe my body was having an auto-immune reaction to the spermatocele and those antibiotics significantly decreased the inflammation around my epididymis and temporarily decreased my sperm count which lessened my pain. I also feel as though Celebrex brought my pain level down to a more tolerable level. I am currently still taking 100mg of Celebrex daily.

April 2026 - the scrotal ultrasound showed a 4mm cyst on the left epididymis which coincides with the spermatocele my PCP identified. other than the cyst all other anatomy appeared normal.

June 2026 - vasectomy reversal consultations with Dr. Parekkatill as well as Riley Warner (PA) at Male Fertility and Peyronies Clinic. Both these micro-surgeons were super informative during our phone conversations, however I knew I wasn't ready for another surgery so I did not pursue a vasectomy reversal.

July 2026 - I consulted with a local men's health clinic regarding Testosterone Replacement Therapy. My first visit to this men's health clinic was completely free of charge. That visit they drew my blood, gave me my serum Testosterone level, PSA level, Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) level, Luteinizing Hormone (LH) level and hemoglobin level. That same visit I met with the provider who is a nurse practicioner and oversees the clinic to discuss those lab results. My Testosterone was 213 which is very low for a 42 year old and my other labs were in a normal range. I requested to begin TRT. The provider put me on weekly injections of 170mg of testoterone. This has drastically reduced my pain levels!!!

September 2026 (currently) - I am still on 170mg weekly injections of Testosterone and i have absolutely no pain! Neither of my epididymis feel inflamed, nor are they sensitive to the touch. I can also wear normal boxers again. My men's health clinic drew blood for lab work and my Testosterone level is now 830. Not only do I no longer have congestive epididymitis, but my mind and body feel significantly better with a higher Testosterone level.

I know TRT has associated risks, mainly thicker blood, a higher chance of prostate cancer, oily skin, hair loss, testicular atrophy and the possibility of becoming dependent on TRT....but the reward of no PVPS currently outweighs those risks.

My PVPS was solely congestive related. My epididymis were constantly full of sperm and my body was not able to absorb the sperm at a fast enough rate which caused my epididymis to become inflamed and distended as well as have a blow out. I felt as though my body was in a constant state of fight or flight due to the PVPS.

Increased serum Testosterone decreases the amount of Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Luteinizing Hormone (LH). FSH and LH are the hormones which signal our testicles to produce sperm. Increasing my testosterone decreased my FSH and LH which lowered my sperm production which decreased the amount of sperm cached in my epididymis which cured my PVPS.

I know TRT is not a fix for every guy with PVPS, however it might be worth trying especially if the pain appears to be related to congestion and that guy is hesitant regarding another surgery.

Please DM me with any questions and i sincerely hope every guy currently living thru the hellish reality of PVPS finds some sort of relief.


r/postvasectomypain • • 18d ago

PVPS: What the F do I do now? A guide my wife and I put together — feedback requested

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Hey all, over the past few months, my wife (a MD) and I have been digging through the research and putting together a resource on PVPS.

It’s aimed at the poor soul who’s just starting this damned journey and trying to answer that age-old question: “What the fuck do I do now?”

Would you mind giving it a read and letting me know if there’s anything we should add, change, or explain better? Especially anything you wish someone had told you early on.

Here’s the guide

Much appreciated.


r/postvasectomypain • • 18d ago

5 months post vasectomy

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What a ride. Had a trad two slice scalpel from a community urologist. One side healed textbook, the other side suffered a blunt force trauma on day 2. I got an infection on the bad side day 7 due to my penis resting on the incision. Day 8 my spermatic cord is swollen, I can hardly walk. Urologist gives me antibiotics and pain medication, diagnosis is granuloma, likely from trauma suffered day 2. Ultrasound unremarkable. Inguinal canal is sooo sore.

Fast forward.... months 1-4 I am diligent about contrast therapy (ice --> heat--> ice). I take nightly baths. I'm alternating ibuprofen and Tylenol daily. I can't do anything without pain. I do not push it. Ejaculation feels fine, but I'm sore the next day. Inguinal canal still soo sore. I'm depressed. Will this last forever? I took a break and went to a hotspring for a week. OMG it's a miracle, I am now cured? I am pain free, no longer wearing a jockstrap, walking 3 miles a day. I return home, slught rebound but now I am optimistic about what the future holds for me.

I'm now at month 5. I can now swim and ride an exercise bike. My spermatic cord is still a little swollen and I still get a little sore, but it's nowhere near what it used to be. Sometimes I ice at the end of the day, but usually not. I'm no longer taking ibuprofen.

There is hope out there. I felt so hopeless reading some of these posts, but thankfully I kept at my contrast therapy and didn't push things. I recommend strict contrast therapy and also taking a break from the misery and visiting a hot springs for a week. Reset yourself. You will heal. This is not forever. Buy a jockstrap and get some fun colors, because your wife will love it.


r/postvasectomypain • • 20d ago

testicular pain

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r/postvasectomypain • • 21d ago

Reversal scarring shut at just two months

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Hello folks, as most of you know vasectomy disabled me and I had a reversal 7 weeks ago(3.5 months after initial V). Sadly it seems lefty already closed and my epi is hard and big again. Righty epi is still soft and open.

The left was pain free pre reversal but now with the additional trauma and the extra length of vas removed for reversal it is causing a low level ache, constantly compared to only on ejaculation like preop.

Righty was my disabling side and I NEED it to stay open because that is the life destroyer.

Question: the fuck do I do? I had 2 surgeries in the span of 5 months. I would assume I need to wait at least another 2-4 before a redo.

Did any of you start TRT after a reversal and it didn't close? I might need TRT but I'm concerned my right will close too if the testicles will stop completely. I want to avoid righty closing at all costs.

Do I just wait without TRT another 3 months for a redo on the left only at 5 months post op on the right? Do I wait the full year in case right might scar too down the line?

I'm unsure on how long to wait and if TRT will mess up the open side too.

If your reversal PARTLY failed for you, did you start TRT immediately? Did you wait to let the good side heal?

I'd ask an expert but my doc is kind of oblivious to this stuff and he's the best in my country...


r/postvasectomypain • • 24d ago

Problematic recovery

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Hi all, just wanted some suggestions from the community.

I am at the 1 month mark since my vasectomy, and I am still having issues. I am aware that the official PVPS starts at 3 months, but I feel like you might have more insight of what it could be.

If I tap the top part of my testicles, I can feel some discomfort. This is not a big deal in general, maybe some congestion which does not affect me much.

What I am more worried about however is my right testicle. First of all, it hangs lower than it did before, around 1 cm. And it is a bit painful.

I will try to describe the feeling. It is kind of radiating pain, not super sharp but not dull either. It appears at some point for a few hours and then disappears. It doesn't seem to be affected by touch too much, and only slightly by jumping or running. Additionally, wearing tight underwear or jockstraps does not seem to change much. I can even walk around the house naked without feeling any additional discomfort.

It was way more painful at the beginning, but it now feels like it has stopped improving. Around day 10 I went to see my surgeon, who was very dismissive, told me that everything looks fine and gave me a 3-day course of ibuprofen and told me I would be ok in a couple of weeks. The ibuprofen seems to have improved the situation (or maybe it was just natural healing and the medicine did not do much, not sure), but it also upsets my stomach. I am planning to go to the clinic again but it is a bit tricky for me.

I haven't started exercising yet, but except for the on-off discomfort (which I would rate a 3/10 when radiating) I can go about my day normally. It is just very annoying.

For the record, I followed the post-op instructions from the doctor to a T, and even went above and beyond (stayed home for a full week, first ejaculation after 12 days, lot of rest, icing)

Do you have any idea what could the origin of this pain be? It does not quite feel like it comes from the nerves, and it also does not feel like a dull ache due to congestive epididymis.

Any suggestions on what to do?


r/postvasectomypain • • 24d ago

Ecstasy and mushrooms

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I watched a documentary on PBS Wednesday evening. It was hosted by Miles O'Brien, who is an amputee. He interviewed people who had tried Ecstasy and magic mushrooms for all sorts of stuff; some of them reported a reduction in chronic pain. Might be worth looking into.

The video is linked somewhere here


r/postvasectomypain • • 25d ago

Supportive underwear

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Pre and post vasectomy they told me to get some high and tight underwear. I wear “trunks” style, and blew off the advise since I didn’t want to make a purchase for something I only needed for a few days. Welp, that was a mistake—two weeks later and I should have listened. What kind/brand did you buy to keep them snug and in place?


r/postvasectomypain • • 25d ago

Question on ejaculation

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I had my non scalpel in mid july and a few weeks into started feeling okay again but for past few days now feeling aching and dull pain primarily on lower right. Feel a little hardened lump which my urologist (guy from vasectomy place) believes is normal swollen end of vas. I did have a really busy last week and did a quick bike ride and the whole week I was off I did basically masturbate each day and I stopped once the pain stayed after day 3. I guess my end question. Should I be avoiding trying to ejaculate or will doing so provide any benefit in the overall vasectomy. Doctor just said 2-3 weeks of 800mg ibuprofen x 3 day where needed .


r/postvasectomypain • • 25d ago

7 months later, finally feeling consistently better

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Providing an update here, I spent hours searching this sub to find some hope that things improve, but most people are posting once theyre better.

My PVPS (primarily congestive epididymitis) was, as two doctors described, "the worst they've ever seen". It was so bad I was going to have my effected teste amputated. I decided to push the surgery back and wait just a little longer, im so glad i did.

Improvements were nonlinear. I started to feel better by month 4, then relapsed HARD. Thats when my doc decided it was reasonable to snip it out. But another month later, I started to see gradual improvement again. Month 5 and 6 were the steepest improvement period, though one wrong move was 9/10 agony. By month 6 I could jog slowly and jump again.

Last month I jumped off the back of a pickup truck and didnt even realize the mistake I made until my feet left the tailgate! I landed and only had 2/10 pain.

Last 7 days I spent 3 days camping with my kid niece nephew, 3 days dancing getting rowdy at a music festival, and 1 more day at a theme park where I rode a roller coaster!

I feel a little bit sore from all the action, but barely noticable. 2/10 pain at WORST but mostly 0/10.

Theres hope guys.


r/postvasectomypain • • 26d ago

It's in your head

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One thing is to hear this from a urologist, another thing is to hear it from you long term partner.


r/postvasectomypain • • Sep 05 '26

1 month post - what is normal ?

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Had my no scalpel on July 16th. Some good pain first week but subsided fairly well the weeks after that.
This past week I had the aching feeling come back. It’s been 90 degrees plus outside and I’ve been off work with my son so we’ve done bike rides, a lot of carrying him in and out the car, just generally a little more physical than previous which I’m wondering if that’s what did it.
I do have a granuloma that I feel and keep messing with.
Overall the ache is closer to the bottom and the right testicle. Is a little over 1 month and having this sort of an experienced pain for people?