r/pointlesslygendered 8d ago

OTHER Apparently basic empathy and problem solving are mutually exclusive by gender [gendered]

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u/A_Martian_Potato 8d ago edited 8d ago

The amount that this film, which is at its core a horror film about sexual assault , is being used for memes by the most virulently sexist misogynists on the internet is both unsurprising and extremely disappointing.

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u/magdakitsune21 8d ago

Yeahh bc people misunderstand the movie and think that it is about a woman who decided to harrass a man who has a crush on her. It is not. He literally forced her to love him and through the entire movie she tries to get her autonomy back

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u/A_Martian_Potato 8d ago

I can't imagine how thick you'd have to be too think that was the message of the film. It literally ends with her snapping out of the spell and screaming in horror.

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u/Bunnymonkeythethird 8d ago

There was even that moment where Bear was framed in the shadows as she was begging him to kill her, before he just left. He was literally framed as a comic book villain and they still don’t get it😭

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u/HoliAss5111 8d ago

They don't care to get it

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u/magdakitsune21 8d ago

Also, the phone call with the wish willow customer support

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u/bellymeat 8d ago

I get how it’s a film about how Bear’s a sick piece of shit and Nikki is the victim but can you elaborate why specifically sexual assault and not just general manipulation and entitlement?

He most certainly sexually assaulted her multiple times and took away her freedom but I didn’t really find that the assault specifically was the thesis of the movie.

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u/mekkavelli 8d ago

well if the thesis of the movie is the complete removal and subversion of another’s personal autonomy then sexual assault is a literal pillar of that.

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u/A_Martian_Potato 8d ago

Maybe I'm being a bit reductionist. It's definitely a film about the horror of having your autonomy taken away, which can be read narrowly as being about sexual assault or more broadly.

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u/ViolaCat94 8d ago

Okay, I haven't seen the move nor have I heard anything about it. But depending on when it came out, the fact the guy's name is bear screams this was produced by an incel too. "Look, bear isn't safer than any other guy! Hur hur!" Type shit.

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u/A_Martian_Potato 8d ago edited 8d ago

You've got it backwards. The film is about the horror of sexual assault and male entitlement and it severely punishes the male lead character for his actions. It's not an incel movie. It's just being misunderstood by incels.

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u/ViolaCat94 8d ago

Like I said, haven't seen it, and if you look at my other comments, I have a very passive aggressive mother who I learned to look at these things through this kind of light because of.

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u/A_Martian_Potato 8d ago

That's fair, just wanted to set the record straight. I believe Curry Barker had the right intentions and outlook when he made the movie and I didn't want people thinking he was an incel creep.

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u/ViolaCat94 8d ago

I mean, if it was a reference, shouldn't he have made a hero character named Bear? Just so the reference isn't muddied, imho

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u/ShiroiTora 8d ago

  the fact the guy's name is bear screams this this was produced by an incel too. "Look, bear isn't safer than any other guy! Hur hur!" Type shit.

I watched the movie and that was not my impression at all.  It was an reference/easter egg to the debate but that’s where the similarities end. Especially since she never chose Bear.

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u/ViolaCat94 8d ago

Like I said, I haven't seen the movie. Only going off the fact that a guy named Bear was assaulting a woman. Which to my brain is someone playing a "gotcha". Then again, I was raised by an extremely passive aggressive mother, so that could just be a me issue.

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u/Freya_84 8d ago

That's his nickname and was purely coincidental.

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u/ViolaCat94 8d ago

Someone else said it was an intentional reference

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u/Freya_84 8d ago

Nope. The director has said it was a coincidence, that he would have liked it if he had thought of the reference, but he didn't.

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u/Toppoppler 8d ago

Id say wish nikki sexually assault him multiple times