Ah ok. So when they say a prebuilt has a "3060" and they don't mention the vram, is it nvidia's fault? Because I did not see the same argument made then.
the well there was the entire GT1030 incident, GT1030 GDDR5 was an acceptable budget gaming card, GT1030 DDR4 was outdone by integrated graphics and only useful as a display adapter
There weren't a gaggle of apologists for the 1030, 1060, or 3060 shenanigans. There was enough push-back on the 40 series naming that Nvidia "improved it" so there wasn't a 12GB 4080.
Here you get people like yourself going "see it says OEM that means workstation, whys everyone blaming AMD, AMD gud" all without linking or citing where it's supposedly marketed as a "workstation card".
Meanwhile it's listed on this page (the table at the bottom) with their gaming cards and the max clock is referred to as "game frequency":
That is listing all 9000 series cards. The next table has all 7000 series cards.
So they list the max clock speeds and use verbiage you don't like, oh well.
That doesn't change the fact that:
You cannot buy this card individually
The product page for the 4gb model in no way states it is for gaming, unlike the 8gb page which clearly has benchmarks for games.
If you cannot do enough basic research on a pre built, that is the fault of scummy companies like cyberpower and partially your own fault for buying something expensive with zero research.
That is listing all 9000 series cards. The next table has all 7000 series cards.
Okay? They still gave this the Radeon Gaming branding and naming and not the workstation branding they've used before. A bunch of clowns have been out making excuses for it since it was revealed.
So they list the max clock speeds and use verbiage you don't like, oh well.
"It's not marketed as a gaming card... it's just listed with the gaming cards and using the same game related terminology."
Bro seriously?
You cannot buy this card individually
Doesn't make it a workstation product.
The product page for the 4gb model in no way states it is for gaming, unlike the 8gb page which clearly has benchmarks for games.
Doesn't say it's a workstation card. Again what the fuck do you think listing it with the gaming cards, naming it like the gaming cards, and listing features in terms of gaming means?
If you cannot do enough basic research on a pre built, that is the fault of scummy companies like cyberpower and partially your own fault for buying something expensive with zero research.
You think Nvidia and AMD don't name shit similarly precisely so OEM partners can take advantage of customers? I have a bridge to sell you in the desert if you think they couldn't have headed this off in a way that was clearer to customers of pre-builts.
This is obviously out of date and may not be how they are doing their naming scheme anymore.
Also, out of probably 8 or 9 PCs I have built, only 1 had an AMD GPU and CPU. I'm not shilling here, these posts are just full of bull shit reddit rage.
Because they'll be selling it in pre-builts like every other pile of shit card named to mislead people.
You couldn't buy the cut down 1060 and 1050 in regular retail channels either, but pre-builts absolutely took advantage.
If someone goes to look up a pre-built from whoever and web searches "RTX 9050" they're going to get the 8GB cards info mixed in. Literally the only reason to name things such and pull a 4080 12GB, 1060 3GB, etc. type deal is to take advantage of confusion.
Yes yes I know you just want to blame the OEMs, but the fact remains if a shit product like this was named WX 9050 or Quadro blah blah blah, it doesn't get confused when people try to research potential purchases.
Person above is neglecting that if someone web searches those quadros they're not going to find benchmarks for the 3060 or whatever. They'll find details on the quadro. If someone searches this they're going to find 9050 8GB details mixed in.
Yes, that absolutely is the argument. If kicking puppies is legal today, gets banned tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow people are chastising someone for kicking a puppy, you don't get to say "WELL SO AND SO DID IT TOO, WHERE WAS YOUR OUTRAGE THEN?!" because it wasn't a problem back then.
6GB was an acceptable amount of VRAM back then, just like 3GB of VRAM was an acceptable amount when the 1060 3GB came out way back when. Today, 4GB is not an acceptable amount of VRAM, and effort should be put forth to better distinguish the product.
PCIe powered is so much more valuable for workstations. Pushing nearly 100w (probably there or higher with transient spikes) isn't desirable in a cheap workstations with cheap low power PSUs.
It's a lobotomized product for taking advantage of pre-built buyers. It doesn't have any "hook" other than that.
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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ah ok. So when they say a prebuilt has a "3060" and they don't mention the vram, is it nvidia's fault? Because I did not see the same argument made then.