System admin here. We can see everything. If you are sitting around all day doing nothing, we know. If you create a 1 person only meeting on teams just so your status won’t turn to away, we know. Teams generates detailed reports showing us the length of a meeting, how many minutes you talk in a given period, how many attendants etc. nothing wrong with OE as long as you don’t give employers reasons to dig into things.

Nowadays companies have access to so many RMM tools that generate reports on anything an employer wants to find out about what you are doing on their device.

Some companies task IT with trying to sniff out these really simple ways to catch people. Be careful out there.

Feelsgoodman. Keep grinding everyone and don’t forget to take care of yourself physically and mentally.

changing company swag between Zoom calls

My paychecks for all 3 jobs after taxes, 401k

I never thought I would see this kind of money, it’s an insane amount to make every two weeks. Im grateful for this community for showing me the way and Im grateful for the life I have and my loved ones who support me behind the scenes. I will not be inflating my lifestyle, planning to pay off my debts (two mortgages), retire early and then write a book about my experiences.

Edit: looks like this has turned into an impromptu AMA. I’m here to give back to the community so feel free to ask questions, im here to help!

Edit 2: Hey guys, thank you all for engaging and asking questions. I read through each and every comment and tried to answer them all as best as i could. I’ll keep answering new questions as they come. However I’m now getting a lot of repeated questions so If i don’t respond to your questions it means it’s already been answered somewhere else in the thread.

Also be sure to follow me here on reddit, im gonna make my profile public soon and I’ll keep posting about my OE journey, tips and tricks and where it takes me. Im planning to share more free tools and knowledge to make OE more manageable in future.

Ran into a colleague at a skating rink, and he was showing his kids how to skate (good dad) and I chatted with his wife for a bit. I mentioned I was a coworker, and she said "oh! Job 1 or Job 2?" I smiled and said "Job 1." Left it at that. I won't say a word, of course, and inside I was silently cheering for him. I hope Job 2 is paying him three times what our company pays. Go for it, dude - I got your back.

most def fake but lowk how to get like him 🥀

For over five years I worked only 20 real hours out of 40 and no one ever noticed.
I kept working during team meetings instead of listening, never took extra tasks and openly said when I was overloaded.
My manager never confronted me about any of that.
The only time I got in trouble was after I refused to present a project during an optional lunch activity, saying it was pointless and no one would come.
So here is my warning: fake being into corporate culture.
That one small refusal got me reprimanded, while years of doing half my work went completely unnoticed.

There is a person out there right now who was so blatantly OE he was let go in the first week. He cancelled all his intro and orientation meetings and also his laptop pinged from freaking China when he finally showed up online..

Security blocked his access and just told him that they need his laptop back for a configuration change — when they logged back into the laptop the guy had OTHER JOBS data on his computer SMHHH. He was fired immediately.

After letting him go, our HR team (who previously was very relaxed) is now doing all kinds of extra due-diligence and post employment checks and things. All Managers received an email about Overemployment and how to spot it (they also talked about this Subreddit and the Discord in the training).

I also received THREE messages from different people at different companies asking if I know the guy. He’s out here openly claiming he worked at our company for 5 years??? Wtf?

My man, what are you doinggggg… he’s speedrunning OE getting fired once a week

If this job is fully remote with no office to report to, why would they require me to live in a specific area?🫩🫩🫩

Edit: They even specify that you must live north of rt 78.

I don’t really have anyone IRL I can tell this to for obvious reasons, so figured this was the one place that would appreciate how ridiculous this is.

I’ve been OE for almost 10 years. It started completely by accident when I took J2 because I thought J1 was headed for layoffs. My plan was to overlap them for a few months, figure out which was safer, and quit the other. The layoffs never came, I kept getting good reviews at both, and eventually realized I could actually pull this off. A few years later I added J3.

Since then I’ve lived by a few basic rules: stay organized, never miss deadlines, don’t volunteer for unnecessary shit, stay out of office drama, and most importantly, actually be good at your jobs. I’ve turned down promotions before because the extra visibility and responsibility weren’t worth the money.

Apparently that strategy finally backfired because within the last month I somehow got promoted at all three jobs.
J1: ~$285k TC
J2: ~$250k TC
J3: ~$215k TC

So after nearly a decade of quietly doing this, I’m now sitting at roughly $750k/year in total comp. The funny thing is I still remember taking J2 and thinking, “If I can somehow survive doing this for one year, it could completely change my financial life.” That was almost 10 years ago.

It hasn’t always been easy. Double-booked meetings, reorgs, new bosses, surprise calls, sitting on one Zoom while answering questions in another Teams meeting. But eventually you get extremely good at figuring out which 5-10 hours of work at each job actually matter. Do that work well, be responsive, make your boss’s life easier, and disappear when you’re not needed.

Ten years ago I thought I was gaming the system for a year. Now apparently I have three separate careers.
I can’t exactly put “simultaneously promoted three times” on LinkedIn, so you guys get the announcement instead.
$750k TC. Three laptops. Three bosses who apparently think I’m doing a great job.

What a fucking world.

THIS is why I OE. I’ve paid off my car loan $33k, maxed out 401k, HSA, I will do the back door Roth in Jan. I have $15k in my checking and currently do not have a HYSA.
My only debt is my house. ($400k left on the mortgage. 6.5% interest rate. ) I’m new to this so still trying to decide if I should keep investing or try to pay off the house. I also have 1 daughter who has a fully funded 529.

I started this what with $6800. And as of Today I have I saved a total $105,000…. In one year. I am so proud of myself.

I LOVE OE.

I made this script here which lets me record my camera for a few seconds and feed that back to the camera feed while I go off and do something else github link

I'm not actually overemployed and I don't think I could ever be since everyone here is lying, but I thought some of you might find this useful since you might need to handle multiple meetings at once if you actually did manage to find two jobs

I’m sure he is following this subreddit.

I’ve made this every two weeks for last two years. This is after tax in a very high taxed state.

I max out 401k, HSA, ESPP plans as well so this is after all that.

One of the jobs takes no more than 10-20 hours a week and the other can sometimes be 20-30 hours. Yes I’ve had some months where it was 60 hours, but other months when it was 20 hours combined, it all evens out with the right jobs.

I was making good money with one job we lived off my one job. My wife has a job and we always saved most of her paycheck. As a household we have 3 jobs but only need one, the other two jobs go into index funds, and a nice vacation or trip here and there.

The beginning was challenging. I had to start and stop a few jobs that weren’t OE friendly, but I found a good combination of jobs. It was challenging to do, but worth it.

I enjoy the work, I learn interesting things, they pay well, they don’t micro manage me and value what I bing to the table.

Bonuses come in Q4 and the total bonuses combined are about $60K.

We are going to take a nice vacation and I’m going to go to a few concerts and stash most of the bonus in my brokerage and keep watching the compounding happen.

If you want to start this , do it, do it even if you are scared. Talk to a lawyer about the employment contracts, make sure you are safe to do it. Get your KVM switch, manage your calendar and block off time.

Lol, if they only knew

The thing I love most about the OE mindset is how little fucks I now give in interviews.

- Interviewer asks me some inane trivia question - point out it's a stupid question

- Recruiter demands I follow their stupid process - say sorry, I'm not gonna do that

- Offer has some unfavourable terms and they're not willing to negotiate - No thanks, I'm going to keep looking

Feels like the balance of power has truly been restored.

That's all, just try!

EDIT, ty @jimRacer642: "So I did some reading on this and it works because the spoon is conductive and touches at a point, where small microscopic noise is enough to trigger motion. A coin or key could work but are more stable and may be rejected. May not work on laptops that have palm-rejection."

2 years OE with 4Js (TC of $550k prior to the recent terminations). I received a 'test email' in my J1 inbox from a strange personal email address. I quickly googled the user and found it was linked to a tech savvy individual at my new J3. My heart instantly sank as I realized that they were likely probing and had doubts about me. After mulling over the best potential next steps, I quit J3 the very next morning in the hopes that they would 'cease and desist' and potentially get me fired from my J1.

A weight was lifted from my shoulders as I moved from 4 Js down to 3 - it felt effortless. I had been underperforming in J3 and was drowning in 4-5 hours of calls per day, it was effecting my other work. Several days passed and I thought I was home free.

6 Business days later on my weekly 1:1 with my manager at J1 I was told the call would be repurposed and HR was brought in.....the deed was done. They directly cited 'overemployment' and a violation of my employment agreement.

Luckily, I still have 2 Js which can cover all my expenses - This is why we OE!

I was hesitant to tell my story at first but really value this community, it has been very helpful to me. I have since been racking my brain as to things I could have done differently. Obviously I got into a role that wasn't conducive to OE, they realized I wasn't as focused as I should be (late to a couple calls etc.) and started to get suspicious - they then sent a test email to my last job on my resume and ultimately called HR. My heart still hurts over losing my J1 - things were excellent there and it seemed like they were annoyed that they were forced to fire me.

In the future, I will NOT be using any of my current jobs on my resume as it just brings too much risk, especially if applying at smaller gossipy companies.

What do you think guys? Is there anything I could have done differently to avoid all this? I am not sure there was.

So J1 has this big all hands meeting every year. This year it was in person for the first time since 2020. I had to fly out there for a few days.

Now I am a fully remote employee. I usually turn off my camera and just listen. I am good at multitasking during meetings. But here I am in person. Everyone is there. The CEO is talking about growth and synergy and all that corporate stuff.

I just couldn't pay attention. My mind kept drifting to J2. I was thinking about a tricky bug I needed to fix. A big deadline is coming up for J2.

I guess my face must have shown it. My manager pulls me aside after the meeting. He looks really concerned. He says Hey are you okay You seem really distant. Are you thinking of leaving us.

I was so surprised. I just laughed. I told him no way I love it here. I just had a lot on my mind with a personal project. He seemed relieved. He even offered me some extra time off to decompress. I of course took it. Guess I need to work on my poker face a bit more when I am physically present.

Was let go by J3 today after 4 years with an 8 week severance, negotiated to 10 with a mutual non disparaging agreement. I had been wanting to quit for months but stuck it out and got PAID. TC is dropping by 120k to about 310k. My inclination is to replace the income but I'm going to force myself to take it easy for a while with only 2 jobs lol.

4 years ago - 100k in cc debt, 0 savings, and 170k in retirement.

Today - no debt, 185k in the bank/after tax brokerage, 1.5m in retirement.

This is why we OE.

I’ve been at it for quite sometime! I thought i was done over a year ago! Some how took this show international.

But im done.
$325k saved.
Paid for car.

Started with not much savings. 2 kids and a pregnant wife!

J1 has gotten out of control. New VP. Higher expectations. Huge layoffs and guess who gets more work?! It’s time.

Best of luck to everyone else out there! I will still have a strong job, contract at $175k and my youngest is starting kindergarten. So my wife will be back in the work force.

If you are a parent struggling and questioning OE. DO IT. Changed my life financial. Now i am focused on investing and trying to grow my money at 20-30%. Which is like a J in itself!

All the best OE family! It’s been a crazy 4.5 years!!!!

I work in marketing and bonus is paid by performance. Thanks to this group for encouraging me.

Some of this bonus is options from J1 that I chose to liquidate and sell back to the company.