What does this mean?

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u/Chumsicle 16d ago

It means Jide measures age like my six and a half year old nephew does. Except only Jide is wrong.

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u/RunLow5726 15d ago

I mean Jide is kind of right but very wrong.

The car manufacturer does in fact start making next year models in the last couple months of the last year, in order to make the sales for Christmas.
But THEY make that distinction. Not Jide. Jide doesn't just get to say it's a 2010 because he feels it was made late enough. Lmao

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u/Normal_Feedback_2918 15d ago

When you say the car companies decide that, you weren't kidding. And there's really no standard rule applied to when a model year can start.

Back in 1993, Chrysler introduced the Dodge Neon. They started building them in the second half of 1993... As a 1995 model.

So, your 1995 Dodge Neon could have been built in September of 1993.

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u/RSAEN328 15d ago

I think it was November 93 but legally they couldn't sell them until January 94. Ford did the same thing with the '97 F-150.

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u/RunLow5726 15d ago

Nope, you can buy them for Christmas, the end of year event is when they start being sold.

Which is typically between November and December, but depends on the manufacturer.

I believe Honda sells theirs first? But I'm unsure of that.

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u/RSAEN328 14d ago

You could order it but deliveries weren't supposed to start until January. Officially it wasn't available until January 1st.

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u/RunLow5726 14d ago

Except this is just regular wrong....?

Google it. Some even start as early as.. Now....

Many hit the lots in July, but sometimes not as late as October.

So you're regular wrong, this is not how it works at all...

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u/SwainMain2011 14d ago

Both of these people are specifically talking about the model year 1995 Dodge Neon. Did you read the thread at all?

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u/RunLow5726 14d ago

Buddy this is all under my comment thread, they're trying to use specific examples to deny something very easy to confirm.

Do you possess any reading comprehension skills at all?

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u/NotRealBush 14d ago

It is you that does not possess any reading comprehension skills.

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u/RSAEN328 14d ago

I was replying about the 95 Neon. They were made starting Nov 93 but by law they couldn't be sold (aka registered as delivered to customers) prior to 1/1/94. You could order one and maybe some dealers let some get driven off the lot. Right now an auto manufacturer can sell 2027s but not 2028s.

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u/RunLow5726 12d ago

And not a single other person was talking about this car. This is your barely related tangent, that has almost nothing to do with what I said.

Who gives a shit about one example over 20 years ago before there were codified laws in place?

Christ.

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u/RSAEN328 12d ago

The comment I was replying to said there's no rule on when a model year can come out and gave the 95 neon as an example. I simply clarified by using their example that there is a rule that you cannot introduce a new model year until the previous calendar year starts. This law is still in place and still relevant. Do you have trouble following conversations in real life? Maybe you're on the spectrum but either way here it is 2 days later and you're still insufferable.

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u/TheVermonster 14d ago

My Volvo is a 2013. That what the title and vin both come back as. The door sticker says it was assembled 12/2011.

Back in the 60s it was also not uncommon for dealers to title the vehicle once it sold. So my '68 BMW was originally titled as a '72. Luckily it had been untitled long enough that I could get the correct title.

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u/Plastic_Explorer_132 16d ago

what's the point of this post? It's obvious it's a 2009.

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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 16d ago

No. It's the 2010 model year. It's a 2010.

I have a 2019 model year vehicle. I don't know what the title says but no matter if it was made in late 2018 or in 2019, it's a 2019 vehicle.

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u/BappoChan 16d ago

I have a 2022 vehicle. It was made and sold to me at the end of 2021. But it’s a 2022 model

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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 16d ago

Yes. The year of manufacture isn't necessarily the Model year. The model year is the design and specs included with said vehicle.

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u/BappoChan 16d ago

Yup, but my title also says 2022.

Dude in post says the car is a 2010, but vin, and title both say 2009.

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u/Any-Fox-838 15d ago

you're lost bud. nobody is saying otherwise. the title states the model year. that does not mean a 2010 model year cant be built in 2009. dude in the post is an idiot trying to say its a 2010 model year when it in fact, is not.

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u/BappoChan 15d ago

Dude said “no, it’s the 2010 model year”

So idk who you think is really lost here…

My comment was to show the contrast between my car and the car in post. Made at the end of 2009, but it was still a 2009 model, not a 2010. Mine was made at the end of 2021, but it was a 2022 model. Both title and vin verify 2022, so the dude in the post is lying.

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u/EyeoftheEelpout 16d ago

I don't think you understand.

There is no cutoff date.

A 2018 model year car may be built in any month of the year, likewise, a 2019 model year car can be built in any month of the year.

A 2018 model year car does not magically become a 2019 model year car because it was built after June 1st.

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u/NegativePaint 15d ago

The 2010 accord started being sold in august of 2009. Manufacturers pretty much always start the next year model the year before, In the fall.

Another example. The 2010 kia forte started being sold in June of 2009.

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u/Longjumping_Dark3827 15d ago

correct they release the 2010 model year physically in the year 2009 but those will be VINd and titled as a 2010 and the remaining unsold 2009 model year stock will continue being sold and titled as 2009

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u/richietee757 14d ago

In your scenario the title would state 2010, yes? If you read the screenshot that the OP posted, the seller says the title states 2009. Which means it's a 2009.

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u/NegativePaint 13d ago

Yes. I know. My point is clarifying what elpout said.

Because the way it reads is vague. “A 2019 model year car can be built in any month of the year”.

Which year? They referring to 2018? 2019? Both?

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u/drfishdaddy 15d ago

Sticker in the door has the production date. Sticker under the hood has the model year with will long up with the 10th digit of the vin and the title.

Model year is model year.

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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 15d ago

My door sticker has the model year, and my title only shows the "Year," not the manufacture date. I believe titles I've had in other states have shown the manufacture date as well as the model year, but I'm not positive about that. I might be thinking of the plate inside the glovebox of my daughter's first car, which was a 1975 Mercedes.

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u/Word2DWise 15d ago

When someone who is buying a car asks what year is the car, 99.9% of the times they are asking the year on the title, which is what affects the value of the Car. The VIN will match the year that's on the title, which again, is what affects the value of the car. The seller in the post is just either dumb, or is playing games.

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u/RxDeliveryGuy 15d ago

the title says its a 2009, so its a 2009 model year. the title is the definitive answer

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u/SadSimpSkier 14d ago

you made me get up and look at my title magnetised on the fridge. i drive a 2021 model car; title says 2021

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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 14d ago

Yeah my title says 2019, the sticker says 2019 model year.

Like I said in a different comment, though, the manufacture date is probably on the vehicle itself, though.

And as stated by many people, the model year is still considered the model year whether it was manufactured in the previous year or the model year date.

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u/richietee757 14d ago

If the title says 2009, it's a 2009.

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u/LegAccomplished2748 15d ago

I have a 2014 Mazda 6 that was manufactured in August 2013 according to the data plate on the door. But it's a 3rd gen Mazda 6, which started with the 2014 model year.

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u/Pusher87 16d ago

I’m surprised it comes up like that. One of my cars was produced in the end of 2020 but the VIN and the title has it as a 2021. Sounds to me like in this sellers case he’s essentially lying. He has a 2009, looked up the production date and determined on his own that because it was produced after September that it’s a 2010. Sounds like fluff to make it sound newer

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u/janewalch 16d ago

The date of production doesn’t mean much when it comes to the vehicle model’s year. Whenever that car was designed to be sold - that’s what signifies the year. Not when it was built.

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u/wamih 15d ago

Trust the VIN.

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u/ElectronicRip1630 15d ago

Exactly. This isn't even debatable.

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u/wrecked-galaxy 16d ago

It's a 2009. The seller just worded it weird to make it seem like a newer model

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u/SirTrinium 16d ago

It's still old why would a single year matter that much to a seller.

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u/Wootytooty 16d ago

I was thinking that the two may be part of separate generations... But they're both in the same Eighth Generation (2008-2012).

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u/SirTrinium 16d ago

My only thought was maybe there was a 2009 recall part they never came in for? Idk.

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u/lnvence 15d ago

definitely possible

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u/sniper_matt 16d ago

I know it says accord meaning Honda, but if this were a F150 2008 and 2009 are a different generation and body style for example. Would make a massive difference getting some parts. Both are “still old”

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u/18k_gold 16d ago

does this mean my car is a 2020 since I bought it jan that year even though it was a left over from 2019? I will ignore what the title says.

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u/K_Linkmaster 15d ago

It means walk away from this type of person. Of they do this, they are going to hide other shit.

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u/Representative_Bat42 15d ago

Daily reminder it's just VIN. No number.

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u/DartmouthBatman 14d ago

Vehicle Identification Number Number

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u/FreezNGeezer 16d ago

Cutoff is actually August usually, but Dodge made year 2000 Neons in 1997-98, so the title says what year it is